Linux-Advocacy Digest #171, Volume #34            Thu, 3 May 01 22:13:05 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: women who pick criminals for mates are undesirable mates ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: The Text of Craig Mundie's Speech (Dave Martel)
  Re: Linux has one chance left......... (Terry Porter)
  Re: Linux has one chance left......... (Terry Porter)
  Re: WinTrolls and advocates are the ones who are geeks! ("Paolo Ciambotti")
  Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! ("Daniel Johnson")
  Re: Bill Hudson admits that he, Dave Casey, V-man and Redc1c4       are         
liars. ("billh")
  Re: Bill Hudson admits that he, Dave Casey, V-man and Redc1c4        are         
liars. ("billh")
  Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! ("Daniel Johnson")
  Re: Linux has one chance left......... (Terry Porter)
  Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! ("Daniel Johnson")
  Re: Performance Measure, Linux versus windows ("Paolo Ciambotti")
  Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! ("Daniel Johnson")
  Re: Linux is paralyzed before it even starts (Terry Porter)
  Re: KuKuNut, USA/USAF Doctrine for Airlift Operations? ("billh")
  Re: KuKuNut, USA/USAF Doctrine for Airlift Operations? ("billh")
  Re: Linux is paralyzed before it even starts (Terry Porter)
  Re: KuKuNut, USA/USAF Doctrine for Airlift Operations? ("billh")
  Re: I think I've discovered Flatfish's true identity... ("Osugi Sakae")

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 20:37:12 -0400

Daniel Johnson wrote:
> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Daniel Johnson wrote:
> > > > Grinning when you say something stupid and insulting ever get you
> > > > punched in the face in real life, troll?
> > >
> > > Oh, I don't grin: I pronounce ":D".
> >
> > I'm sure this is just the tip of the iceberg of the mass
> > of symptoms which identify you as a complet and utter moron.
> 
> Everything I know I learned from Victor Borge!

Too bad you missed 99% of what Borge taught.


> 
> [snip- The Sig That Will Not Die]


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: women who pick criminals for mates are undesirable mates
Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 20:37:42 -0400

Roberto Alsina wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 03 May 2001 18:57:43 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Steve Chaney wrote:
> >>
> >> On Fri, 4 May 2001 00:36:35 +0800, "frank" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >What I don't  understand is that such women are usually very sexy and
> >> >pretty. They uasually have big boobs, a shapely butts and small waists.How
> >> >do you explain this?
> >>
> >> Looks + Brains = Constant
> >
> >Wrong.
> >
> >Looks x Brains = Constant.
> 
> What a stupid thing to say. If that was correct, you would be the prettiest
> guy in Detroit.

The rule doesn't apply for men, you dolt.


> 
> --
> Roberto Alsina


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Text of Craig Mundie's Speech
Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 18:27:05 -0600

On Fri, 4 May 2001 11:06:56 +1200, "Adam Warner"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/craig/05-03sharedsource.asp
>
>Count the number of times the "GPL" is mentioned:  10.
>Count the number of times ".NET" is mentioned:  4.

Dont you just HATE Mundies? <g>

>As LWN news states, "One could perhaps be forgiven for concluding that
>Microsoft is starting to feel a bit of pressure..."

They do sound a little desperate, don't they?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Linux has one chance left.........
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 04 May 2001 00:55:44 GMT

On Thu, 03 May 2001 17:45:45 GMT, T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Said pookoopookoo in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Thu, 3 May 2001 00:16:38 
>>> > Sadly Windows is NOT a real time OS.
>>>
>>> True.
>>
>>But...I have a buddy in computer engineering at McGill university, and he
>>said it was...what is the difference between a real-time system and a
>>non-realtime one?
> 
> I'm not really the one to ask, but it has to do with the scheduler in
> the kernel.  Your buddy was extremely confused, or just mistaken about
> the terminology.  "Real-time" can sometimes be like "synchronous" and
> "asynchronous"; terms which are applied generously across multiple
> specialists' domains and perspectives, with only a vague concept, not
> any demonstrable characteristics, to join all the various uses.  Any one
> thing can be called synchronous (or "real time") by one expert in one
> context, and just as validly and simultaneously called asynchronous (or
> "non-real time") by another expert in a different context.

>From http://www.rtlinux.org/

 RTLinux^(TM) is a hard real-time operating system that handles
 time-critical tasks and runs Linux as its lowest priority execution
 thread. In RTLinux, a small hard-realtime kernel shares one or more
 processors with standard Linux. This allows the system to run accurately
 timed applications to perform data acquisition, systems control and
 robotics, while still serving as a standard Linux workstation.

The most-current stable version of RTLinux, V3.0, offers a POSIX style
application programming interface (API), runs on x86, PowerPC and Alpha
processors and supports SMP (x86 only). Version 3.0 (final) is available
at ftp.rtlinux.com.

> 
> -- 
> T. Max Devlin
>   *** The best way to convince another is
>           to state your case moderately and
>              accurately.   - Benjamin Franklin ***


-- 
Kind Regards
Terry
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Linux has one chance left.........
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 04 May 2001 00:57:53 GMT

On Thu, 03 May 2001 20:56:51 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 3 May 2001 14:46:51 +1200, Matthew Gardiner
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>
>>Do you have ANY IT experience?
>>
>>Matthew Gardiner
> 
> 
> You would be amazed if I told you where I was in 1979, but I won't.

For fear of discovery no doubt.

"Steve,Mike,Heather,Simon,teknite,keymaster,keys88,Sewer Rat,
S,Sponge,Sarek,piddy,McSwain,pickle_pete,Ishmeal_hafizi,Amy,
Simon777,Claire,Flatfish+++,Flatfish" I

> will say that I was 19yo so at least you have a clue ...
Save your breath Flatty, nothing you say has any credibility.

> 
> flatfish
> 
> 


-- 
Kind Regards
Terry
--
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   My Desktop is powered by GNU/Linux.   
   1972 Kawa Mach3, 1974 Kawa Z1B, .. 15 more road bikes..
   Current Ride ...  a 94 Blade          
** Registration Number: 103931,  http://counter.li.org **

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From: "Paolo Ciambotti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WinTrolls and advocates are the ones who are geeks!
Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 18:13:05 -0700

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Donn Miller"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> You've gotta love the crap you read in here, how we're all supposed to
> be "Linux geeks".  You hear that repeated many times in here by the
> Wintrolls.  In fact, the Wintrolls are the ones who are geeks.  Did you
> ever see how geeky Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer are?  Damn, but if those
> two aren't the biggest geeks I've ever seen!  Linus Torvalds is much
> cooler by comparison.

And, we're extremely fond of fully automatic weapons.  No LinuxWorld Expo
would be complete without a few thousand rounds and a few dozen water
bottles....

------------------------------

From: "Daniel Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 01:10:52 GMT

"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Daniel Johnson wrote:
> > Beats me. You seem to be suggesting that
> > there is some law that prohibits Microsoft
> > from killing off DOS.
>
> No.  I said that there *IS* a law which prohibits mandatory bundling.
>
> The fate of DOS is independant.

Oh, that's different then.

But it seems you have no complaints about
what Microsoft did with DOS and
Windows.

> > Perhaps it's only illegal for Microsoft?
>
> It's illegal for ANY company.  Hope that helps.

Well, it's nice to see you aren't using a double
standard, at least.




------------------------------

From: "billh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles,soc.men,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Bill Hudson admits that he, Dave Casey, V-man and Redc1c4       are       
  liars.
Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 01:13:36 GMT


"Aaron R. Kulkis"

> So, the 3-STAR GENERAL in charge of the 21st Air Force agrees
> with Specialist Aaron Kulkis, and DISAGREES with Bill Hudson.
>
> And of course, the 21st Air Force couldn't be designating
> the C-130 as Strategic Lift without the OK of the commander
> of the US Air Force ***AND*** the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

You're and idiot.  Learn to read.  Your site doesn't say the 21st AF
designated the C130 a srategic lift bird.  Should I provide you the number
to the flight ops at the 21st AF?


> That means, then, that The Joint Chiefs of Staff agree with
> Specialist Aaron Kulkis, and DISAGREE with Bill Hudson

You're delusional.  LOL!!!  This gets better with each of your posts.



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From: "billh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles,soc.men,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Bill Hudson admits that he, Dave Casey, V-man and Redc1c4        are      
   liars.
Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 01:14:06 GMT


"Aaron R. Kulkis"

> > Go to the Army REGULATION, wannabe.  Regs have precedence, wannabe.  AR
> > 710-2 App G.
>
> So, what you're saying is that every supply unit in the army is in
> violation of AR 710-2.

Name one.



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From: "Daniel Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 01:14:21 GMT

"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Daniel Johnson wrote:
> > > It really doesn't matter if it's MS-DOS or DR-DOS, if you remove
> > > the DOS from it, it will not run.
> >
> > Well, sorta. Even Windows 1 did provide
> > its own memory manager of sorts.
>
> Running on top of DOS.

Oh yes. Most of the stuff DOS does, you'd
use DOS for.

It was just a baby-step in the direction
of a new OS. But it was something.

> > As you go down that list of OS, Windows
> > subsumes more and more of DOS's functions.
> > There's not a lot left in Windows 98.
>
> Running on top of DOS.

Just a wee bit.

[snip]
> > This is only necessary *because* DOS is
> > such a poor platform; the few services it
> > provides it provides *badly*.
>
> Which is what we were telling you Mafia$oft droids 15 years ago.

I think it's clear from Microsoft's actions that *they*,
at least, knew it was true.

> > Fixing the problem basically means getting
> > rid of DOS. MS-DOS, yes, but DR-DOS
> > too.
>
> None of which excuses Mafia$oft's illegal behavior of writing
> exclusionary contracts which codified restraint of trade practices
> agains Digital Research.

Hmmmmm? Did MS write contracts excluding
Digital Research?

First I've heard of it.

[snip]




------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Linux has one chance left.........
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 04 May 2001 01:11:10 GMT

On Thu, 03 May 2001 21:02:48 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 03 May 2001 02:38:12 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
> wrote:
> 
> 
>>For a self confessed non coder, you seem suprisingly mis informed
> 
> All it takes is one look at Freshmeat for a non coder to move on.
What a meaningless statement ...

> Maybe all those libraries and other snippets of half finished code
> mean something special to the geeks, but to me, most of it is useless.
What libaries???


"Steve,Mike,Heather,Simon,teknite,keymaster,keys88,Sewer Rat,
S,Sponge,Sarek,piddy,McSwain,pickle_pete,Ishmeal_hafizi,Amy,
Simon777,Claire,Flatfish+++,Flatfish"> 

thinks that Windows doesnt have any libaries. How about ir41_32.dll ?
I think i'd rather have a nice self explanitory libary like
*libtermcap.so.2.0.8

Flatty you have become a real joke on COLA, your lack of understanding
of *anything* Linux, coupled with your lemming like devotion to Windows
is just pathetic.

> 
>>"Steve,Mike,Heather,Simon,teknite,keymaster,keys88,Sewer Rat,
>>S,Sponge,Sarek,piddy,McSwain,pickle_pete,Ishmeal_hafizi,Amy,
>>Simon777,Claire,Flatfish+++,Flatfish"> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
>>> Hey maybe SLRN will finally reach v 1.0.
>>
>>What's the rush, slrn has been totally stable for me, since 1997?
> 
> That's nice.
Glad you approve.

> 
> 
>>Linux isn't interested in BIG numbers, only stability and reliability.
> 
> Good thing because it doesn't have any. Big numbers that is, at least
> on the desktop.
No one can compete with Microsofts BIG numbers, I'll give you that.

> 
>>Flattyhas already 'forgotten' how MS jumped whole version numbers on WORD
>>because they had fallen behind Word Perfect, in the 'version number' game.
> 
> I haven't forgotten, because I don't use Word nor do I use any other
> MS applications except Windows and FlightSim.
Then you were arguing from a point of ignorance ?

> 
> 
>>How short and exclusive the memory of the average Wintroll is.
> 
> And how shallow the typical LinoNut is.
Shallow??
Please try harder Flatty, I'm barely touched.

> 
> Terry, you really should go to a comedy show sometime so you can learn
> to be funny.
But I'm a Linux Advocate Flatty, I'm not attempting to humour Wintrolls
like you.


-- 
Kind Regards
Terry
--
****                                                  ****
   My Desktop is powered by GNU/Linux.   
   1972 Kawa Mach3, 1974 Kawa Z1B, .. 15 more road bikes..
   Current Ride ...  a 94 Blade          
** Registration Number: 103931,  http://counter.li.org **

------------------------------

From: "Daniel Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 01:15:05 GMT

"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Daniel Johnson wrote:
> > > I'm sure this is just the tip of the iceberg of the mass
> > > of symptoms which identify you as a complet and utter moron.
> >
> > Everything I know I learned from Victor Borge!
>
> Too bad you missed 99% of what Borge taught.

That's true, I was never again good with a piano.

[snip]




------------------------------

From: "Paolo Ciambotti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Performance Measure, Linux versus windows
Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 18:23:14 -0700

In article <9cruck$d0q$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Mikkel Elmholdt"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Different from what? I don't hope that anyone is interested in testing
> the speed differences in the ways you can acquire clock ticks between
> Linux and Win2K/NT. These tools are used to measure the performance of
> *real* application code. All this IBM guy did was test the speed of the
> measurement method itself. That's pretty uninteresting, IMO. And it says
> nothing about the relative performance of the two platforms, as Mr.
> Gardiner clearly implied. The "Microsofts so-called NT vs. Linux
> findings" was based on benchmarking real applications such as Apache
> versus IIS. And AFAIR, even the Über-Penguin himself had to acknowledge
> that NT actually had an edge over Linux in some aspects (at that point
> in time, things have probably changed with the 2.4 kernel)

This is only the first in a series of articles.  This one is interesting
only for the fact that subsequent benchmarks will have to take into
account the poorer response times for WinNT.  The rest of the series
should be more entertaining.  BTW, that "IBM guy", as you referred to him,
is IBM's product guru in charge of MSFT, not Linux.  I'm expecting bias
in a different direction than you.

------------------------------

From: "Daniel Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 01:24:21 GMT

"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Daniel Johnson wrote:
> > > This is why you are an idiot who is not sufficiently
> > > knowledgeable to make a meaningful contribution to
> > > this discussion.
> >
> > Well, you see, I'm a very shy person. I don't
> > want to stand out from the crowd.
>
> Try getting a university education in Computer Science,
> Electrical Engineering, or Computer Systems Engineering.

Got one already. A BSCS from Rensselaer Polytechnic.

Anything else you think I need before I'm
sufficiently knowledgable to make a meaningful
contribution to this, um, "discussion"?

> Until then, please keep your idio-babble to yourself.

I'm afraid I was a loudmouth before I graduated,
too. I'm incorrigable.

[snip]
> > You feel that Windows 3 is a better product than
> > Windows 95?
>
> They're all fucked up.  But LoseDOS 95 and 98 have
> fucked up device handling because the idiots in Redmond
> decided that the GUI should bypass the DOS device drivers
> and access them directly..

They started doing *that* in Windows 3.1.

Originally it was for performance, of course, but
there is another reason: They need to move
driver developers to a new API too, so they
can transition to the NT codebase. NT must
have drivers, not just apps.

Hence all this "Windows Driver Model" stuff.

> Which causes all sorts of device contention problems
> if you run DOS code that wants a device.

Yeah, but the point is to kill DOS.

MS has been *cuting back* on DOS
compatibility lately. Whoudathunkit?

> > Still, Windows 1 wasn't "nothing but" a GUI on
> > top of DOS; even then it had a few other things.
>
> a few other things that worked VIA the GUI front-end to DOS.

No, it was really the other way around. The core of
Windows 1 was the module linker; all the GUI stuff
was (and indeed is) a bunch of dynamic link libraries.

[snip]
> > > As long as you continue to post your inane drivel, we
> > > well all *KNOW* that you are a fool.
> >
> > Who is "we"? You and Max?
>
> get a clue

Hard to do if you wont answer questions, you know.

[snip- far, far too much sig]




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Linux is paralyzed before it even starts
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 04 May 2001 01:23:06 GMT

On Thu, 03 May 2001 19:15:28 +0200,
 Mart van de Wege <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "WJP"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
><snip some stuff>
>> This is an perfect example of why Linux is such a challenge to users
>> unfamiliar with the "lingo" of Linux.  "xdpyinfo"?  "Xshm extension"?
>> "dri/drm"?  "cvs repository"?  "xine"?  Gosh, I wonder how many hours it
>> will take me to search through the "howto's" and "whereis's" and
>> "linuxdoc.org" to just understand this one paragraph.  Whew!!
>> 
>> Definitly a challenge, to say the least!
>> 
>> YMMV
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Bill Powell
>> USAF/USA (Ret) Management Systems Analyst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 
> Yeah, unlike Windows, where things just stop working without even giving
> a hint of what's wrong, or your nice new accellerated video card is not
> recognized, leading you through a twisty maze of wizards, all alike, and
> drivers with arcane names hidden 3 levels deep in a CD's directory
> structure.
> I grant that the Linux lingo is extremely intimidating to a rank newbie,
> but at least it tells you (or your nearest friendly USENET denizen)
> exactly what it is doing.
In my experience it takes a couple of years to become at ease with Linux terms
especially if like I did, one comes from a Windos background.

Linux how-to's are a good way to approach this, as they are written in a easy
format to understand.
http://www.linuxdoc.org/
 

> (Note to developers: clearer error messages are better. Hmmm, I might
> just volunteer for a few of my favourite projects)

Now posts like this are just a pleasure to read!
Good on you Mart :))

> 
> Mart

-- 
Kind Regards
Terry
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   My Desktop is powered by GNU/Linux.   
   1972 Kawa Mach3, 1974 Kawa Z1B, .. 15 more road bikes..
   Current Ride ...  a 94 Blade          
** Registration Number: 103931,  http://counter.li.org **

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From: "billh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles,soc.men,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: KuKuNut, USA/USAF Doctrine for Airlift Operations?
Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 01:26:39 GMT


"Aaron R. Kulkis"

> So, you are claiming that the Commander of the 21st Air Force,
> the Commander of the Air Force, and the Joint Chiefs of Staff
> didn't know what the fuck they were doing when they designated
> the C-130's in the 21st Air Force as Strategic Airlift.

You have yet to show where the CG 21st AF or CJCS has done such.  Pathetic
try, wannabe, just pathetic.



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From: "billh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles,soc.men,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: KuKuNut, USA/USAF Doctrine for Airlift Operations?
Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 01:28:19 GMT


"Aaron R. Kulkis"

> The C-130 *IS* used as a strategic lift platform.

You said the 21st AF Cdr and CJCS designated it as a strat airlift platform.
You are wrong.  Wiggle some more.  Find another 100 cites that don't prove
they designated such.  Pathetic.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Linux is paralyzed before it even starts
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 04 May 2001 01:26:01 GMT

On Thu, 03 May 2001 21:04:08 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 02 May 2001 21:30:34 -0500, WJP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>On Wed, 02 May 2001 19:28:48 -0400, Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>//snipped for brevity//
>>
>>>
>>>I checked using xdpyinfo, and Xvideo was running, and it still wanted to
>>>use the Xshm extension.  I probably need something else, though, such as
>>>dri/drm.  My video card is a Sis 5597/5598 (which probably explains
>>>it).  I'm using the Xfree 4.x development version from the cvs
>>>repository.  All my other graphics animations seem to be pretty decent
>>>WRT speed in X, though, although that probably doesn't mean xine is
>>>going to give me decent animations.
<snip>

> And how valuable is your time?
Far more valuable than yours I'd say, given the huge amount of time
that you spend posting your drivel on COLA,

"Steve,Mike,Heather,Simon,teknite,keymaster,keys88,Sewer Rat,
S,Sponge,Sarek,piddy,McSwain,pickle_pete,Ishmeal_hafizi,Amy,
Simon777,Claire,Flatfish+++,Flatfish"> 

> Flatfish


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From: "billh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles,soc.men,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: KuKuNut, USA/USAF Doctrine for Airlift Operations?
Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 01:30:21 GMT


"Aaron R. Kulkis"

> > Your the one talking shit boy, not Aaron.
>
> So, you are saying that all of those army.mil and af.mil sites are talking
shit also...
>
> Interesting.
>
> Very interesting.

Kulkis, you're such an idiot you can't even figure out when someone's
agreeing with you.  LOL!!!  Pathetic, just pathetic.



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From: "Osugi Sakae" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I think I've discovered Flatfish's true identity...
Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 10:34:08 +0900
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Terry Porter"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Excellent sleuthing, and a great read Aaron :)
> 
> I don't think,
> "Steve,Mike,Heather,Simon,teknite,keymaster,keys88,Sewer Rat,
> S,Sponge,Sarek,piddy,McSwain,pickle_pete,Ishmeal_hafizi,Amy,
> Simon777,Claire,Flatfish+++,Flatfish"--
> 
> is a Linux user, he's just too dam ignorant.

It is easy for someone knowledgable to pretend to be ignorant.

--
Osugi Sakae


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