Linux-Advocacy Digest #421, Volume #29 Tue, 3 Oct 00 10:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: What kind of WinTroll Idiot are you anyway? ("Chad Myers")
Re: What kind of WinTroll Idiot are you anyway? (.)
Re: Off-topic Idiots (Was Bush v. Gore on taxes) ("Chad Myers")
Re: What kind of WinTroll Idiot are you anyway? ("Chad Myers")
Re: Open Source to impact industry in 4 years.
Re: Linux Sucks (Brian Langenberger)
Re: what happens when an old programmer dies? (Dave Herzstein)
Re: Windows+Linux+MacOS = BeOS (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Windows+Linux+MacOS = BeOS (Matthias Warkus)
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) (Matthias
Warkus)
Re: [ CORRECTION ] Re: The real issue (Johan Wich)
Re: So did they ever find out what makes windows98 freeze up all the time?
Re: So did they ever find out what makes windows98 freeze up all the time? ("Stuart
Fox")
Re: The real issue (Johan Wich)
Re: The real issue ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: So did they ever find out what makes windows98 freeze up all the time?
Re: The real issue ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Off-topic Idiots (Was Bush v. Gore on taxes) (Marty)
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: What kind of WinTroll Idiot are you anyway?
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 13:13:42 GMT
"." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8rbsei$29bm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> You havent been reading much about NVIDIAs W2K drivers.
>
> Tell me, dresden, could NVIDIA or microsoft possibly have any flaws at all?
NVidia's drivers have had... problems in the past. This is the case
on all of the platforms they support (Win9x, WinNT, Win2K, and Linux).
The only time I've seen a BSOD in Win2K were these two times:
- When I set the computer type to ACPI PC when it wasn't (i.e. replaced the
HAL with an incompatible HAL. If you know anything about NT/2K, the HAL
is the basis for which all hardware communication takes place. If it's
incorrect, nothing works)
- When I installed some "beta" Nvidia drivers a few months back and I was
playing Q3. I don't play Q3 anymore, and I've heard Nvidia's OpenGL drivers
are better now, but I had many problems with them, so I gave up. UT is
much better anyhow! =)
I currently have the 618 Detonator drivers installed and have experienced
no problems whatsoever. I haven't had any problems for the past several
months and the past several Detonator driver revisions.
Go to Nvidia, get the latest Win2K drivers. If things still go wrong, then
perhaps you should contact NVidia. Rest assured, this is not a Win2K problem,
it's most likely an incompatibility between two of your hardware components
and their respective drivers.
-Chad
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: What kind of WinTroll Idiot are you anyway?
Date: 3 Oct 2000 13:15:06 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8rbsj5$29bm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Drestin Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > why? are the linux IDE drivers that bad?
>>
>> No, but DMA is often optional. You can turn it on, you can turn it off.
> Why can't you turn it off?
I just said you can turn it off, lightbulb.
=====.
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Off-topic Idiots (Was Bush v. Gore on taxes)
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 13:15:46 GMT
"David T. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> People who post on this thread are posting about subjects that have
> nothing to do with the newsgroups to which they are posting. They are
> polluting these newsgroups with posts based on topics that belong in
> other newsgroups. The posters are apparently unable to identify the
> appropriate newsgroups and I therefore bestow upon them the title of
>
> OFF-TOPIC IDIOTS!
>
> Congratulations to all of you.
Um... yeah, whatever.
So, what do ya'll think about them (local sports team)?
<grin>
-Chad
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: What kind of WinTroll Idiot are you anyway?
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 13:17:15 GMT
"." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8rcm4q$2pqc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > "." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:8rbsj5$29bm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Drestin Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >> > why? are the linux IDE drivers that bad?
> >>
> >> No, but DMA is often optional. You can turn it on, you can turn it off.
>
> > Why can't you turn it off?
>
> I just said you can turn it off, lightbulb.
heh oh yeah. Sorry... first thing in the morning... no caffeine...
You still didn't answer the question! <grin>
-Chad
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Open Source to impact industry in 4 years.
Date: 3 Oct 2000 09:22:10 -0400
Bartek Kostrzewa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed this unto the Network:
>Charlie Ebert wrote:
>>
>> YIP! There are some stories that the Open Source industry will impact
>> the entire planet by 2004!
>
>Earlier.
>
>>
>> Can't help but wonder if they read one of my Microsoft will be dead by
>> 2005 bulletins!
>
>I don't think so, the guys at Micrsosoft are crappy programmers, but
>what they know to do is marketing, and Microsoft will NEVER cease to
>exist, the may get smaller again, but they won't dissapear...
Once people have the chance to compare Microsoft software with good
software, without a Microsoft OS to make the non-Microsoft software
look like shit, Microsoft's marketing operation, which relies heavily on
the fact that most people start out seeing only Microsoft's OS and
Microsoft software, will begin to crumble.
In fact, Microsoft's marketing is already beginning to fail
even without this condition. Microsoft is marketing harder and
harder. Meanwhile, more and more people are abandoning Windows.
Even more are bringing up Unix in dual-boot environments, a behavior
that only increases as Microsoft desperately tries to stop it.
Can Microsoft really market as well as everybody thinks it can?
Despite how hard Microsoft tries to convince everyone that Unix is
slower, more crusty, and more primitive than Windows (thus showing
their fear of Unix), the Unix user base continues to grow at the
expense of the Windows user base.
If Microsoft keeps marketing like that, there's a good chance that
it will be out of the OS market by 2005, which takes it out of the
software market altogether (.NET looks like another Windows, and
therefore will not save Microsoft), which makes Microsoft irrelevant
enough to call it dead. Keyboards made after 2005 will have the word
"Menu" where the Windows logo appears on keyboards made today.
--
Have you re-installed your operating system today?
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From: Brian Langenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Sucks
Date: 3 Oct 2000 13:24:34 GMT
Jim Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>Richard Y. Hertz
: I should take serously the advocacy of somebody claiming to be called
: Dick Hertz? Shouldn't you be out making crank phone calls or
: something?
I was so certain he was about to ask me if my refrigerator was
running, but instead it turned out to be more anti-Linux gibbering.
So who'd like the honor of figuring out which troll this one is?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Herzstein)
Crossposted-To:
alt.windows98,comp.infosystems.www.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,sci.geo.satellite-nav
Subject: Re: what happens when an old programmer dies?
Date: 3 Oct 2000 13:30:35 GMT
at a time earlier than now, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>[snip much about legacy source code]
>
>Comments? Have I said anything out of date as usual? Please reply to the
>newsgroups. Creatively crossposted by:
>--
>www.geocities.com/jidanni E-mail: restore ".com." Dan Jacobson = ???
>Tel:+886-4-5854780; starting in year 2001: +886-4-25854780
I've been writing applications for over 20 years....
I don't shed any tears when one of my systems is retired; its just one
more "can of worms" I'll never have to open. If I was concerned about
preserving my life's work, I'd have become a brickayer!
--
Dave Herzstein
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.kjsl.com/~dave
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: Windows+Linux+MacOS = BeOS
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 22:59:13 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Mon, 02 Oct 2000 16:09:35 -0000...
...and Nathaniel Jay Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Um, I think you are mixing up rock guitarists and 'modern'
> guitarists. I play hard rock/metal/hardcore/punk type
> music and believe me, I'm not a fan of the 'computerized'
> guitar sounds. I'd much rather have a guitar jacked
> straight into a loud tube amp, which is in fact one of the
> reasons my neighbors aren't too fond of me ;-). I have
> yet to find a 'computerized' guitar amp that sounds any
> good, although some of the really, really high-end (read,
> too damn expensive for me) pre-amps get close to the tube
> sound, but I think they incorporate tubes to do it (and
> there's no power tube distortion from a FET amp).
Same for me. I'm a pianist learning to be a keyboarder. The latest
keyboard I've played has a colour screen, a GUI, online help and
full-motion video. Really good Hammond emulation (virtual drawbars).
Nevertheless, what I'm dreaming of is a fully electromechanical,
tube-amplified Hammond B-3 or L-100 without any electronics whatsoever
and a mechanical Leslie cabinet, of course. Only a rock organ that
needs lubricating is a good rock organ.
Oh well. As you said, "enough of the rock talk". I've been rehearsing
"House of the Rising Sun" too much.
mawa
--
Kennst auch du eine Frau, die du am liebsten an die Wand werfen
würdest, aber deren Innerstes du magst wie kaum ein anderer auf der
Welt?
... Jeder von uns kennt eine von ihnen. Ihr Name ist Das Leben.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: Windows+Linux+MacOS = BeOS
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 22:54:38 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Sat, 30 Sep 2000 15:16:37 +1000...
...and Chris Sherlock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Perhaps it's because computer geeks don't make cool music.
Hm... I play in a little band which makes arguably cool music. That
either means that your statement is wrong or that I am not a computer
geek.
Probably it's the latter. Hell, I shower regularly and I even get laid :)
mawa
--
THE THREE MANTRAS OF META-OPTIMISM (by mawa)
I. Everything's gonna be all right.
II. I'll always believe that everything's gonna be all right.
III. I'll always be able to believe everything's gonna be all right.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 22:51:07 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Tue, 26 Sep 2000 19:18:35 -0400...
...and Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> NO...it is NOT.
>
> If the child's own parents have no interest in feeding their own
> offspring...why should I?
>
> You see...YOUR method means STEALING MY RESOURCES so that they will
> be used for the benefit of the progeny of some lowlife scum sucking
> welfare whore and her equally contemptable alcoholic "boyfriends"
Let's see...
This phrase of yours translates to following axioms:
- There are "normal people" like you, and there is "lowlife".
- Of course all people are born unequal, since for example the
children of "lowlife" don't deserve surviving (your kids probably
do).
- Corollary: "Lowlife" deserves to die.
This is social Darwinism in its purest form. Maybe it's because you
Americans have got neither history nor memory that you simply don't
get what this kind of ideology inevitably leads to.
mawa
--
Und eigentlich bin ich kein Freund von Ausschaltern (das sind diese
schrecklichen Leute, die Lieder, Songs u.a. nicht langsam leise
drehen, sondern einfack <klack> ausschalten).
-- Mischa Gerloff
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From: Johan Wich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [ CORRECTION ] Re: The real issue
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 15:43:03 +0200
"Kolbjørn S. Brønnick" wrote:
> Sure, but Microsoft should be avoided for many reasons. I was a OS2 user,
> DRDos user and Word Perfect user. I still think Word Perfect is better than
> Word. I still think OS2 was better than Windows 95. Microsoft uses its
> monopoly to crush the competition.
AMEN!
OS/2 is hopelessly outdated today, but in its time it was years ahead of
windows 95 :-)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: alt.windows98
Subject: Re: So did they ever find out what makes windows98 freeze up all the time?
Date: 3 Oct 2000 09:43:59 -0400
Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed this
unto the Network:
>I would not say I am constantly installing/uninstalling programs. As for
>TSR's, they went out yonks ago - this is Windows 98, it doesn't need DOS
>style TSR's anymore.
It still needs HIMEM.SYS.
--
Microsoft. How do you want to lose your data today?
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From: "Stuart Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.windows98
Subject: Re: So did they ever find out what makes windows98 freeze up all the time?
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 14:46:38 +0100
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed this
> unto the Network:
>
> >I would not say I am constantly installing/uninstalling programs. As for
> >TSR's, they went out yonks ago - this is Windows 98, it doesn't need DOS
> >style TSR's anymore.
>
> It still needs HIMEM.SYS.
No it doesn't...
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From: Johan Wich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The real issue
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 15:53:09 +0200
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> > Have you ever actually tried either gnome or KDE, both of which are
> superior
> > to windows and will both be even better in their next major release.
>
> I doubt that even the Gnome or KDE developers would admit to that. Unless
> of course you mean that "superior" means "not made by MS"
Even KDE 1.x is better than Windows. By better I mean: highly
configurable, stable and fast. Pick your reason.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: The real issue
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 13:57:01 GMT
On Tue, 03 Oct 2000 02:15:17 -0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
wrote:
> That doesn't answer the question. It also doesn't address
> why one would necessarily want a console wannabe.
For home users, computer Jane, the console is a dead issue. In case
you haven't noticed the console is dead. GUI's are the future, at
least in that market.
>>different hacks to perform the same function. You can't even get your
>>100 different Windowmanagers to import each others menues properly.
>
> Actually, your information regarding this aspect is as faulty
> as your information regarding anything else linux.
You didn't answer the question.
>>Try it under Mandrake 7.1 sometime.
>
> Mandrake 7.1 is "just the OS". Why would I expect it to come
> with "everything". WinDOS doesn't come like that. So if we
> are going to compare bare installs, Windows automatically
> loses.
Again you didn't answer the question.
>>
>>> You have not proved your point in the least.
>>
>>Sure I have. I can do far more with WIndows applications. normal stuff
>
> No you haven't. You've just split one vague accusation up
> into several vague accusations. You've not supported any
> of them.
And you have a problem answering direct questions.
> Repeating something more times does not constitute proof.
>
>[deletia]
Neither does statements like Mandrake is just the OS...
claire
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: alt.windows98
Subject: Re: So did they ever find out what makes windows98 freeze up all the time?
Date: 3 Oct 2000 09:59:29 -0400
Dan Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed this unto the Network:
>[am I not supposed to reply to this because its a booby trap or something?]
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>said that only an inept programmer would be poor... what about that volunteer
>spirit?
Or the self-taught programmer with no self-marketing skills and no official
College Degree.
--
Microsoft Windows. Never had it, never will.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: The real issue
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 14:01:37 GMT
On Mon, 2 Oct 2000 23:44:33 -0400, David M. Butler
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Wordperfect suite that runs NATIVELY under it's own OS instead of some
>> Wine hack?
>
> I use KDE's office suite. Works just fine, free, loads up in about 2
>seconds, doesn't seem to crash on me, has all the functionality I need...
>it is still beta software, but it works just fine.
Sounds nice. I have not tried that one, but I will give it a whirl.
I've been meaning to try Applix also.
> I won't comment on the sound apps, since I only use a simple MP3 player.
>
>> It's terrible, Netscape that is, and ironic that the OS that powers a
>> lot of the internet has such a poor excuse for a browser. IE blows
>> Netscrape out of the water, as long as you keep up with it's security
>> flaws :)
>
> Konqueror works nicely as of late. Current beta version seems to handle
>most web pages nicer than Netscape (in my opinion anyway)... getting close
>to IE quality. Doesn't seem to crash. Memory monitor says it takes up
>about 2-3 megs when loaded, which is a bit better than Netscape or IE.
I will take a look at that also.
> Once again, this is still beta... just pointing out alternatives.
That's ok, if it has potential it can usually be seen in the later
beta's. If it's going to be a dog, no amount of testing will help.
>> >Wordperfect also isn't the only word processor available.
>>
>> But it's really the only commercial competitor to Word, even under
>> Windows. And under Linux it is a joke. Wine based hack..Pathetic...
>
> See above office suite comments.
>
> Also, the mail/news software for K is rather nice, so no WINE is needed.
I didn't like them, although this was not under kde 2.x, it was under
the 1.x versions. Roberto's news program is pretty good though.
> (Yes, I'm a little biased towards K, if no one had guessed...)
>
>D. Butler
That's ok. I prefer the look and feel of Gnome, but I have found kde
to be much more stable.
claire
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From: Marty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Off-topic Idiots (Was Bush v. Gore on taxes)
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 14:04:42 GMT
"David T. Johnson" wrote:
>
> Marty wrote:
> >
> > "David T. Johnson" wrote:
> > >
> > > People who post on this thread are posting about subjects that have
> > > nothing to do with the newsgroups to which they are posting. They are
> > > polluting these newsgroups with posts based on topics that belong in
> > > other newsgroups. The posters are apparently unable to identify the
> > > appropriate newsgroups and I therefore bestow upon them the title of
> > >
> > > OFF-TOPIC IDIOTS!
> > >
> > > Congratulations to all of you.
> >
> > He's not only the club President, he's also a member!
>
> Your typical garbled, illogical, nonsensical comment.
> Maybe you do some work on that "Grad School in Texas" thread.
Reading comprehension problems? How ironic, given you grammatically incorrect
statements.
Meanwhile, I see you're still hypocritically contributing to off-topic
threads. No surprise there.
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