Linux-Advocacy Digest #718, Volume #29 Wed, 18 Oct 00 01:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Because programmers hate users (Re: Why are Linux UIs so crappy?) (T. Max Devlin)
Re: KDE starting to stress out a little? ("Ingemar Lundin")
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: Astroturfing ("Les Mikesell")
Re: Anybody want to test a widget? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: KDE starting to stress out a little? (Navindra Umanee)
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 00:25:43 -0400
Static66 wrote:
>
> On Sun, 15 Oct 2000 00:25:06 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim
> Richardson) wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 09 Oct 2000 05:45:42 GMT,
> > Loren Petrich, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > brought forth the following words...:
> >
> >>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jim Richardson
> >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On the plus side, GWB doesn't own a polluting Zinc mine, which is under
> >>> consideration by the state of Tennessee to close down due to toxic runnof that
> >>> Gore hasn't cleaned up despite several citations.
> >>
> >> I thought that environmentalists were all economic saboteurs.
> >>
> >> And it is not for nothing that Libertarians have been described as
> >>Republicans who smoke pot.
> >>
> >
> >I am a little confused as to what your response has to do wrt Mr "Earth in
> >the Balance, but zinc mining profits in my checkbook balance" Gore.
> >
> >What do the libertarians or the republicrats have to do with Gore polluting a
> >river in Tennesee?
>
> What you have just witnessed is a typical "Loren duck and weave"
> ..Loren cannot digest truth when it is not in accordance with his/her?
> liberal belief system.
If you've ever looked at Loren's webpage, you would soon understand
that Loren is properly referred to as...."it".
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 00:26:43 -0400
Loren Petrich wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jim Richardson
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I am a little confused as to what your response has to do wrt Mr "Earth in
> > the Balance, but zinc mining profits in my checkbook balance" Gore.
>
> Typical yellow-dog Republicanism. Compared to Gore's zinc mine,
> Bush's Texas air is far worse.
>
Define "yellow-dog Republicanism" in a way that goes beyond
"evil-sounding ad hominem that Loren pulls out of his ass whenever
he's losing an argument"
> --
> Loren Petrich
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Happiness is a fast Macintosh
> And a fast train
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 00:29:30 -0400
Loren Petrich wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Static66
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I think that by your logic (misguided belief that anything in LIFE is
> > "fair") you should be surrendering your possessions to the state. You
> > would hate to "rich" while there are so many "suffering".
>
> Cry me a river.
>
> > You think the government should be penalizing those who succeed. What
> > have you done for the "poor". I'm just dying to know.
>
> Made software available for free, including its source code.
Hypocrite.
How many homeless bums have computers to use your "free" software?
If you were TRULY helpful, you would give them a COMPUTER to run it
on.
But, of course, you're only interested in symbolism, rather than
actually making a difference in anybody's life.
Tell us...did you also go around giving homeless bums shopping
carts, so that they could.....remain homeless bums....
>
> --
> Loren Petrich
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Happiness is a fast Macintosh
> And a fast train
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 00:30:32 -0400
Static66 wrote:
>
> On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 17:12:57 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lars
> Träger) wrote:
>
> >Static66 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 03:26:53 GMT, Marty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >One interesting and unfortunate exception comes to mind. A man named Tim
> >> >used to be an IBM employee (a software engineer I believe) in Endicott,
> >> >NY. One day he suffered from a severe stroke which took away most of his
> >> >mental capabilities. He had to quit his job because he could no longer
> >> >serve IBM in his previous capacity. Today, he spends his days gathering
> >> >up soda cans from around town and recycling them, as it is all he can
> >> >handle anymore. He's out there every day, and somehow he manages to
> >> >gather enough to keep a humble roof over his head and stay fed. (We
> >> >always make it a point to help him out and bundle up some cans for him
> >> >and leave them on the porch of our building.) This man could have been
> >> >earning $100K/year easily and fate smote him to the point where he can
> >> >barely scrape by even though he's working his ass off (the only way he
> >> >really can) every day. Unless he receives a very generous gift, he'll be
> >> >confined to a life of poverty in spite of a strong work ethic. Folks
> >> >like him are few and far between, but they do exist.
> >>
> >>
> >> Natural selection comes to mind... I am however heartened by the tale.
> >> I noticed that you mentioned he "worked his ass off" and I do not
> >> remember you mentioning him begging for help. So a handicapped man is
> >> somehow able to meet the basic human needs, food, shelter, clothing.
> >> Good for him.
> >>
> >> Furthermore you have illustrated nicely (by leaving him the cans) what
> >> I said earlier in the thread to the idiot loren. Americans are
> >> generous people and help should be provided to those in genuine need
> >> of assistance at the community level.
> >
> >Now imagine another man struck by similar fate. One man can live by
> >gathering up all the soda cans around town all day long, but can two?
> >Solution: people buy twice as much soda and beer, so both men can live.
> >But one of them does limp slightly, making him slower, and the other can
> >gather more of the cans. Now one man has a little more than he needs,
> >and the other one less.
> >
> >Lars T.
>
> still doesn't make iut the responsibility of the other man to
> compensate the other for his misfortune. Just why are you feeling so
> guilty ??
Lars has a history of gypping people out of their hard-earned cash,
and now he has a guilty conscience.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Because programmers hate users (Re: Why are Linux UIs so crappy?)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 00:33:34 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said FM in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
>Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
>>Object Orientation means:
>> 1) everything's an object (where "object" is the normal sense
>> of the term and not some bizarre abstract sense like you
>> have been promoting)
>
>Object in the normal sense of the term doesn't exist in programming
>languages. It's a metaphor.
Uh-oh.
>> 2) all actions are performed by sending messages to objects
>
>What is an action? What is the result of sending a message?
If you mix 'concepts' and "metaphor" with Richard, you're screwed. His
recent exchange with Dan seem to show that, contrary to my prior
impression, Richard is a very smart (and very stupid; you know how that
goes) person. Rather than being incapable of grasping an abstraction,
he seems to be quite in love with his ability to grasp abstractions, and
refuses to recognize the concept of a 'metaphor'. I think he truly does
believe that there is no difference between real objects and programming
'objects'.
>>[...]Of *course* a language forces users to
>>think in a particular way. [...]
>
>Because most general purpose languages allow one to mix and
>choose between different paradigms. All languages force you
>at some level to think in their own models of computation,
>but usually those are general and multi-paradigmatic. A
>language can, on the other hand, force a particular paradigm
>by not supporting mechanisms that are necessary for other
>paradigms.
And here again is the opportunity to 'reverse engineer' a bit of what we
know as Richard. He *likes* the idea of only having one paradigm.
Perhaps I was wrong again; its not that he can grasp abstractions, or
can't, but that he doesn't want to, and wishes he didn't have to. This
seems to me to relate to the psychobabble nonsense he tends to spew.
[...]
>>Wrong bozo. AOP as a paradigm isn't complete. And this is
>>an inherent part of the AOP paradigm. OOP is complete, you
>>just persist in stripping it of meaning.
>
>OOP isn't complete. You can't describe an entire computational
>process purely in OOP. At some level you come down to imperative
>programming, functional programming, or some other basic
>paradigms. For example, what you gave as a definition for OO
>inherently includes the imperative paradigm at heart (seeing
>a computational process as a series of actions).
What's AOP, btw?
>>> of the underlying paradigm, be it imperative, functional,
>>> etc) so a language supporting OO will have to support
>>> multiple paradigms, in some sense (whether they merge to
>>> appear as one single new paradigm to the user is a
>>> metaphysical question).
>
>>Stop misusing technical terms asshole. It is *not* a
>>metaphysical question.
>
>I don't think you know what a metaphysical question is.
I don't think he quite understands the concept as a reasonable person
would, either. But I, also, had some reservations of your regarding
paradigms and programmers in a metaphysical perspective.
>Whether a combination of two paradigms is a paradigm in
>itself or not is a metaphysical question because it
>focuses on essence, rather than observation.
OK, I get it. I'll agree that whether two paradigms combined is one
paradigm could certainly be considered metaphysical, seeing as it is
defined as being non-empirical.
[...]
>I know perfectly well what OO is, in both its elusive
>theoretical sense, and in the practical sense. The problem
>is that you don't understand what OO is, since you obviously
>haven't used it. You cannot tell if a language is OO, since
>you can't distinguish mechanisms from concepts and
>abstractions from metaphors. There are many programmers who
>are so fixated on mechanisms, that they can't understand
>concepts beyond mechanisms. You are flawed in the other
>direction - you have become so obssessed with concepts
>that you can't see how mechanisms can differ from concepts
>(or rather from how concepts are described) and can still
>implement them correctly - and much less useful.
You lost it at the end, there, Dan, but I think its clear enough what
you meant.
>>> this is meaningful since the term "good" has no clear
>
>>LOL. You're a fucking moron. You're one of those people
>>who tries to understand something, fails, and then instead
>>of asking an adept, you come to the conclusion that it's
>>meaningless/useless. Like your definition of OO: you can't
>>come up with a suitable formal definition so you create
>>one that's so general, universal even, it becomes vacuous.
>
>You didn't read or address my definition. Perhaps you read
>it, but you didn't understand it. Either way, your comments
>apparently don't apply.
Yes, but it as certainly amusing to see him use the word 'adept', wasn't
it? ;-)
>>Your attitude seems to be "this is too much for my poor
>>weedle brain so it can't be useful and can't even exist".
>
>Perhaps if you knew how to read, or think, for that matter,
>you wouldn't have come to such a pitiful conclusion.
Perhaps Richard is more like me than he believes; his problem might be
that he can't stop thinking, no matter how hard he tries.
[...]
>>I also didn't read the vast majority of your posts.
>>You're an emotionally disturbed fool and it's not my
>>job to look after you.
>
>Look how you are completely unable to argue rationally and
>look at a mirror and then see how your sentence fits. It's
>quite hilarious to see someone so emotionally disturbed about
>his logic and knowledge being questioned that he becomes
>completely unable to address logically any of the points made
>against him, simply resorts to ignoring all the points and
>arguing against his imagination, and then shares his own
>state of mind by accusing others of his own problems.
He does do the 'arguing against his imagination' quite a lot, doesn't
he?
Thanks for your time. Hope it helps.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: "Ingemar Lundin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE starting to stress out a little?
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 04:34:39 GMT
"Marc Alsina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev i meddelandet
news:RB4H5.118$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Meanwhile, still waiting for GNUstep to take over the world after these
> > two giants destroy each other...
>
> The world has already been silently taken by ... iceWM ;-)
>
PFFFFF!!!.......*WINDOWMAKER*
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 00:35:21 -0400
Lars Träger wrote:
>
> Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Lars Träger wrote:
> > >
> > > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Low-IQ correlates with low incomes and unemployment.
> > >
> > > So your unemployment is the reason you post so much?
> >
> > False premise, several counts
> >
> > Far from it.
>
> No, you just didn' get it.
No...I *DO* get it.
I'm employed.
Therefore, your premise that I'm unemployed is false.
But...let's say, for example...let's say your right..
Let's say I'm unemployed.
Please explain why I'm not on here begging for money.....
>
> > Unemployment is definied as the inability to find work.
> > Whereas I oftentimes post from work.
> >
> > Now...how one can post from work while supposedly unemployed
> > is something you're going to have to explain.
>
> Oh? Isn't your "office" your rucksack in Bosnia? How come you often
> post from there?
No, not at all, fuck-head. You have me confused with someone else.
>
> Hell, tax-money is wasted just so you can post to Usenet from Bosnia,
False premise.
> and you complain about wellfare leeches?
I don't see you signing up to serve in the military. Why is that?
Personally, I don't give a fuck if US military personnel are given
access to USENET. Have you ever served in a Theater of operations?
USENET is damn-cheap entertainment for guys doing a thankless
jobs, thousands of miles away from home, with little to occupy
their time, and a thousand ways to come home in a body bag.
>
> Lars T.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 00:37:48 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> >"Loren Petrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Static66
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 05:07:26 GMT, Loren Petrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, STATIC66
> >> > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > >> Keep ducking and weaving Loren!! You don't like hearing than
> >> > >> "visionary" Algore is a rich,poluting,beltway boy do you???
> >> > >
> >> > > Something you right-wingers normally pride yourself on being.
> >> >
> >> > HaHaHaHa yes we are all rich, poluting bastards..Still not coming to
> >> > terms with reality are you...
> >>
> >> Thank you for admitting what you are.
>
> >I'm not sure wich is more pathetic, his poor attempt at sarcasm, or your not
> >catching/admitting it was so.
>
> Chad,
>
> Your comments tell us that you are depriving a village somewhere of an idiot.
> -- that means you are an asshole. Go away and stay away.
>
So says the hypocrite LeTurd who posts from the equally
hypocritical sover.net
Where the fuck do those people at sovereign.net get off trying to
ELIMINATE the personal sovereignty of fellow citizens?
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Astroturfing
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 04:40:00 GMT
"Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:UQ8H5.11324$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I was asked to install a kick-around Linux box on an extra box we had
> to test our java SDK on something other than Windows.
>
> Basic RH 6.2 install... didn't detect hardly anything.
>
> Intel 810-chipset, one of the most ubiquitos chipsets around... couldn't
> detect sound, video, UDMA, RAM, nothing.
>
> It detected 16MB of RAM. Thank you very little.
Aren't standards wonderful?
> What was that claim that Linux supported more hardware than Windows *.*?
Runs just fine on a couple of old Sparc's here. Which flavor of Windows
would you suggest instead?
> I've yet to have seen a machine that NT couldn't detect the RAM and at
> least establish a 640x480x8 VGA mode GUI.
But detecting an existing FAT32 disk and setting up dual booting is just too
much to ask of it...
> What is so complicated with this that Linux can't ever seem to manage
> the most basic of hardware devices (i.e. RAM, video, etc)
I heard bad things about the 810 chipset and avoided it, so I haven't had
that problem. In fact I don't think I've had a box yet where the memory
detection added somewhere around 2.0.36 failed.
But for getting something simple wrong - the last time I installed Win2k
on an all-scsi box, it would only format 8 gigs of a 9 gig drive, even
on the 2nd disk. What's with that?
Les Mikesell
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Anybody want to test a widget?
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 04:26:58 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
bobh{at}haucks{dot}org wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 00:33:04 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I don't suppose you happen to know of a similar simple html viewer
> that I can call from Python scripts? I could wrap yours of course,
> but I was looking for something that would work on Win32 as well.
I don't have any experience working with TclTk and incorporating it
into different languages, but it's cross-platform and it has an HTML
widget in there...
By the way, I don't have one yet. I'm relying on GtkEditable (not so
nice), but that'll change as soon as I can get GtkHTML or CscHTML to
compile.
-ws
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From: Navindra Umanee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE starting to stress out a little?
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 04:43:48 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Check this out:
>
> http://dot.kde.org/971680096/
Remember that Ivan is the guy who has been single-handedly maintaining
Debian packages since the days when there was no official Debian
support. Us KDE/Linux users have crashed his servers and taxed his
resources many times over. It's truly amazing that he's lasted this
long without complaining once -- and he really was provoked by a quite
exasperating email exchange (I've seen snippets). Not easy sometimes.
Note also, that Ivan is not leaving people in the cold. He is still
the maintainer of the official KDE Debian packages *and* all his
sources are CVS. He has also offered to sponsor Debian developers
willing to help with other KDE packages.
-N.
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