Linux-Advocacy Digest #718, Volume #33           Fri, 20 Apr 01 01:13:06 EDT

Contents:
  Re: What's the point ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: What's the point ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: US Navy carrier to adopt Win2k infrastructure ("JS PL")
  Re: What's the point ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: What's the point ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Why left-wing communist assholes hate Reagan.  (was Re:        (Tracy Hochheimer)
  Re: More Microsoft security concerns: Wall Street Journal (Jim Richardson)
  Re: Perl and Tcl/Tk: How important are they? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Aaron Kuklis Arrested! (Paolo Ciambotti)

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's the point
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:55:29 -0400

Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> 
> <snype>
> >         I know lots of those people who the minute I try to teach them
> > Unix using a very simplified textbook, slam the book down and refuse
> > to read it based on its thickness! These same  people cry "B'ichela" when
> > trying to program their VCR or set up a simple Direct-TV (single LNB)
> > sattelite system!
> >         I was taught the old way, by books. I am 33, female and
> > college educated! I learn by doing things and I am not afraid of
> > failure. Heres a Linux Example of my thinking:
> >         I have a ancient Adaptec ACB-4070 bridgeboard. its old, crufty
> > and not fully Scsi-1 complient (it lacks the identify Scsi command). I
> > wanted to put it to use. I asked on comp.periph.scsi if anyone had
> > pointers for software or manuals (I had none). I got lots of help and
> > manuals to configure and interface.
> >         This board CLEARLY was RTFM! I had to hack the Linux 2.0.38
> > scsi.c routine to add the proper kludges. Please NOTE! I don't know
> > advanced C at all, yet I pressed on. With my K&R Ansi C manual and a
> > book from Kochan to learn C I began to get the thing working
> > (unforcunatly its a RLL board and I only had a MFM drive. Drive not
> > RLL friendly). After several days of printing and reading and failed
> > compiles I got the driver to at least talk to the board. Because my
> > drive was not RLL I could not sucessfully low level it.
> >         What I learned in the end was several things
> > 1. If I want it done. I gotta do the homework.
> > 2. Dont make a new Lilo boot until your loadlin bzImage version is
> > working right. I learned this one long ago. Glad I though of this
> > before potentially distroying a stable system ;)
> > 3. I learned some things about pointers and structs.
> > 4. MFM drives don't do RLL well.
> > 5. Learned about how the Scsi Bus operates in reguards to the level 0
> > and level 1 command sets.
> >
> >         My friends who are not very good at technoligy at all sat
> > there flabergasted that I was not afraid to tackle such a project.
> > They told me that they would have just thrown the board out.
> >         The same goes with dealing with simple Sattelite dish
> > installations. I did both a single LNB DTV system and a Dish Network
> > Dish 500 system. What I learned was invaluable in the future
> > installation of dish systems.
> >
> >         As for the ACB-4070 bridgeboard project? I need a RLL drive if
> > I want to give it another go or a ACB-4000a bridgeboard (its the MFM
> > version). Personally I still want to use this sucker! anyone got
> > either a RLL drive or the ACB-4000a bridgeboard laying around I would
> > like to have it.
> >
> > --
> >
> >                         B'ichela
> 
> Thank god I'm not the only one who still reads, I was beginning to think
> that I was some sort of weirdo.  From the number of people who complain,
> I swear, no one must ready books any more.  From the age of 9, yes 9, I
> started reading computer books, learning how to program in AmigaBASIC,
> learning how to type better documents.  Why has there been this darth of
> people willing to learn? has it become un-fashionable?  Instead of


TV
Public schools.

Says it all.



> watching television, maybe the general populous should go back to the
> fine art of reading, and learning, then maybe technology will be able to
> move forward, and people will be able to be more resourceful, such as
> the case with the SCSI card you mentioned in your post.
> 
> Matthew Gardiner
> --
> I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
> 
> If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself
> 
> Running SuSE Linux 7.1
> 
> The best of German engineering, now in software form


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

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K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's the point
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:56:49 -0400

GreyCloud wrote:
> 
> B'ichela wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 01:13:45 -0700, GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >This may not come as a surprise, but there are a lot of 30+ year olds in
> > >the U.S. that have a hard time reading a simple newspaper.  That's why
> > >us older folks are being asked to come back to work because the younger
> > >generation can't read the technical manuals or follow simple written
> > >instructions.  Very pathetic.
> >         I know lots of those people who the minute I try to teach them
> > Unix using a very simplified textbook, slam the book down and refuse
> > to read it based on its thickness! These same  people cry "B'ichela" when
> > trying to program their VCR or set up a simple Direct-TV (single LNB)
> > sattelite system!
> >         I was taught the old way, by books. I am 33, female and
> > college educated! I learn by doing things and I am not afraid of
> > failure. Heres a Linux Example of my thinking:
> >         I have a ancient Adaptec ACB-4070 bridgeboard. its old, crufty
> > and not fully Scsi-1 complient (it lacks the identify Scsi command). I
> > wanted to put it to use. I asked on comp.periph.scsi if anyone had
> > pointers for software or manuals (I had none). I got lots of help and
> > manuals to configure and interface.
> >         This board CLEARLY was RTFM! I had to hack the Linux 2.0.38
> > scsi.c routine to add the proper kludges. Please NOTE! I don't know
> > advanced C at all, yet I pressed on. With my K&R Ansi C manual and a
> > book from Kochan to learn C I began to get the thing working
> > (unforcunatly its a RLL board and I only had a MFM drive. Drive not
> > RLL friendly). After several days of printing and reading and failed
> > compiles I got the driver to at least talk to the board. Because my
> > drive was not RLL I could not sucessfully low level it.
> >         What I learned in the end was several things
> > 1. If I want it done. I gotta do the homework.
> > 2. Dont make a new Lilo boot until your loadlin bzImage version is
> > working right. I learned this one long ago. Glad I though of this
> > before potentially distroying a stable system ;)
> > 3. I learned some things about pointers and structs.
> > 4. MFM drives don't do RLL well.
> > 5. Learned about how the Scsi Bus operates in reguards to the level 0
> > and level 1 command sets.
> >
> >         My friends who are not very good at technoligy at all sat
> > there flabergasted that I was not afraid to tackle such a project.
> > They told me that they would have just thrown the board out.
> >         The same goes with dealing with simple Sattelite dish
> > installations. I did both a single LNB DTV system and a Dish Network
> > Dish 500 system. What I learned was invaluable in the future
> > installation of dish systems.
> >
> >         As for the ACB-4070 bridgeboard project? I need a RLL drive if
> > I want to give it another go or a ACB-4000a bridgeboard (its the MFM
> > version). Personally I still want to use this sucker! anyone got
> > either a RLL drive or the ACB-4000a bridgeboard laying around I would
> > like to have it.
> >
> > --
> >
> >                         B'ichela
> 
> You are one of the few that can research.  One of the biggest limiting
> factor is "You can't do that".  Once one gets that limit set into their
> head its all over with.
> Have any of your college professors say "Its not possible"?  Those are
> limits.
> What about researchers?  Do they go to the universities to find out more
> about what they are researching?  Nope.  The new knowledge comes from
> proper research which brings out the knowledge inside.
> 

True.  There's an old saying in the electronics industry:

The BEST source of ideas are those who have just graduated from a
university, because they still don't know "what can't be done" yet.

And so, they go out and do it.


> The school system in our state is having a fit.  Even on TV an anchorman
> challenged the gov. to improve the school system and urged everyone that
> is disenfranchised with the school system to send the governor a broken
> pencil to represent the broken promise.
> 
> The place where my brother is now working, canned about 20 people that
> couldn't read.
> My older brother is at retirement age and now the company is begging him
> to stay on... even offering a big pay raise.
> 
> --
> V


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

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K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "JS PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: US Navy carrier to adopt Win2k infrastructure
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:58:29 -0400


"webgiant " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 06:11:02 GMT, "Electric Ninja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >"Andy Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >>
> >> Jan Johanson wrote in message
<3ab419a9$0$48766$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >> >http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/archive/11929.html
> >> >
> >> >"Lockheed Martin is working on the design of the new US CVN 77
aircraft
> >> >carrier, and Microsoft Federal Systems is to co-operate in the ship's
> >> >information technology architecture. This will, we kid you not, be
based
> >on
> >> >Windows 2000. Microsoft Consulting Services will meanwhile chip in
with
> >> tech
> >> >support during the ship's software design, development and
deployment."
> >> >
> >> >Cause the Navy knows what everyone else already knows, W2K is rock
solid
> >> >enough to trust lives to.
> >
> >For getting work done I love Win2000 like a charm but I'm scared to death
to
> >have something like that running one of our aircraft carriers.
>
> Wasn't that USA-China gaffe over a NAVY spyplane?

OT prediction:.

The coming U.S./China war will last 12 days. China will be bombed into the
stone age and there will be 1000 years of peace.



------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's the point
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:58:32 -0400

MH wrote:
> 
> Still unable to grasp a point I see.
> And the number of porter posts keeps climbing, and climbing, and climbing,
> and ..

What the hell is a porter post...some sort of sex toy for depraved cretins
like you, ubercat

> 
> Gee, that's a lot of work getting done.
> (-;
> 
> "Terry Porter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> 
> normal NON snipped


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

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K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's the point
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:59:43 -0400

Brent R wrote:
> 
> Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> >
> > Eric wrote:
> > >
> > > After six years of Windows and one GPF too many, I bought Redhat7 and
> > > installed it.  I expected a learning curve, but nothing like I ended up
> > > with.
> >
> > Well, good for you.  I Moved from my Amiga 500 to a Pentium 75, then
> > quickly moved to Linux. At that point, I wouldn't exactly say I was a
> > genius to any stretch of the imagination, but atleast I could get Linux
> > up and running!
> >
> > >
> > > I got my cable modem, printer, cdrom drives, and daily programs going, and
> > > it took me endless hours - most of them spent trying to fix my display
> > > resolution, only to find out the config file was XF86config-4 and not
> > > XF86config.  How the hell was I supposed to know that?
> >
> > Why edit a file? Drop into command line, type su, if you are in a user
> > account, then your password.  Once logged in, type setup then enter, and
> > select X Configuration from the menu.
> 
> Remember to type in the full path to su! You wouldn't want to email
> anyone your password now would you?

/bin/su

sooooooooooooo difficult

> 
> > > Then I started tackling my digital camera.  I followed all the howtos I
> > > could find - no joy.  And I still dealt with crappy looking fonts on my web
> > > browsers.  And that's when I decided to throw in the towel.
> >
> > Who cares? Netscape still uses the Poscript fonts by default.  If you
> > use Mozilla, the fonts aren't crappy.
> 
> Linux NS and Mozilla are deeply flawed software packages, stay far away
> from them!
> <snip>
> 
> --
> - Brent
> 
> http://rotten168.home.att.net


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

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K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: Tracy Hochheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Why left-wing communist assholes hate Reagan.  (was Re:       
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 05:01:29 GMT

Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:17:32 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> 
> > Never been in Saudi Arabia, have you, so please keep your ignorant
> > stereotypes to yourself.
> 
> I'm not invoking "ignorant stereotypes", I am quoting what I believe is
> a fairly good source.
> 
> > For example.
> >
> > Non-muslim women are not only not expected to cover their faces, etc.,
> 
> Except that it's a religious state, so if you're a citizen, you had better
> be muslim.
> 
> >> You pretend to be such a passionate advocate of freedom, but now you are
> >> showing your true colors by coming clean with the fact that think that
> >> only men are entitled to any freedom at all (and even the men have fairly
> >> limited freedom, apart from freedom to rape and beat their wives and
> >> servants)
> >
> > Nah.
> 
> Yeah.
> 
> You obviously think freedom is not very important, because you hold
> in high regard a religious state that offers no freedom.
> 
> > I'm just saying that women in Saudi Arabia have a much better life
> > than American woman...thanks to American feminists.
> 
> How do they have a better life ? Your claims that they are "safer" do
> not hold water, and even if they did, would you trade all your freedom
> for these perceived benefits ? Is freedom really that unimportant
> to you ?
> 
> --
> Donovan Rebbechi * http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/ *
> elflord at panix dot com

What does this have to do with Linux advocacy? Is Linux, an 
Is Lamic womans choice of OS?

------------------------------

From: Jim Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: More Microsoft security concerns: Wall Street Journal
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:01:22 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In msgid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter Hayes wrote: 
on Tuesday 17 April 2001 14:29

> On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 23:33:26 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
>> Jan Johanson wrote:
> 
>> > FTP? command line? this is the 20th century, that shit was old in the
>> > 80s...
>> 
>> "The only reason I have seen so far is because I am standing on the
>> shoulder of giants."
>>  -- Albert Einstein.
> 
> I'm surprised you didn't point out to him that it's the **21st** century,
> and that's maybe his problem - not keeping up with the times...
> 
> Peter
> 

Jon isn't very bright, so why bother with the easy zings?

-- 
Jim Richardson
        Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
www.eskimo.com/~warlock
        Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.


------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Perl and Tcl/Tk: How important are they?
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:05:10 -0400

Michael Vester wrote:
> 
> "Bryant Charleston, MCSE" wrote:
> >
> > Hey folks,
> >
> > I'm a Linux newbie and I'm reading through a few books and practicing
> > hands-on to learn Linux -- then Unix. A couple of the books spend quite a
> > bit of time addressing scripting languages like Perl and Tcl/Tk. As a newbie
> > to Linux, I'd like to get some feedback on how important these (or any
> > other) scripting languages are in the real world.
> >
> > 1) Should I skip these and continue to learn and master the basic CLI
> > commands FIRST, or learn them along w/the CLI?
> 
> Do you mean the shell? There are several included with every Linux
> distribution.
> 
> > 2) Which of these scripting languages are the most important?
> 
> Depends on what you are doing. I invested time in learning Perl. It can do
> anything the shell and much, much more. Also, Perl is on just about every
> Unix/Linux system out there.  Start at www.cpan.org

Not in the commercial world.  Also, there is a version problem with perl.
I can't remember where the cutoff is, but there's a backwards compatibility
problem  (perl 4.x vs perl 5.x ???)

In any event, anywhere you go, basic shell scripts are the foundation level
(all of your system initialization is done in bourne-shell scripts).

Therefore, learning shell scripting is a higher priority than perl scripting.

in fact, I'm a *HIGHLY* paid, high-responsibility admin, and I've only
had to deal with perl once, and never really did get the hang of it.

Everywhere else, perl just adds confusion, because it's no universally known.
Which leads to a chicken-and-the-egg problem.



> 
> > 3) Are there other important scripting languages that are also widely used
> > that I should be aware of?
> >
> With Unix/Linx scripting languages, learning one gives you a great
> foundation to learn another.  And welcome to the side of light. I too was
> once a losedos user and tech support of losedos networks.
> 
> > Thanks for the feedback!
> >
> > --
> >
> > ...................................................
> > Bryant Charleston
> > A+ Network + MCSE (NT4)
> > Linux (RedHat 7) Enthusiast
> >
> > ....................................................
> 
> --
> Michael Vester
> A credible Linux advocate
> 
> "The avalanche has started, it is
> too late for the pebbles to vote"
> Kosh, Vorlon Ambassador to Babylon 5


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

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K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: Paolo Ciambotti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Aaron Kuklis Arrested!
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:06:11 -0700

On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, "Public wrote:
>I think the following explains why Usenet has been without Kuklis the last couple
>of days:
>
>April 17, 2001 22:12:30 - Associated Press
>
>Royal Oak, Michigan - A man was arrested on Monday at a local CompUSA store after
>causing a disturbance and threatening store employees.  Police were called to the
>scene shortly after 5PM after the store manager called 911 and reported the they
>had a hostile customer who was threatening and hysterical.  Police arrived on the
>scene and discovered the suspect, identified as Aaron Kuklis, screaming at the top of 
>his
>lungs.  The man was allegedly became irrate shortly after entering the store and
>discovering that CompuUSA was no longer carrying the Windows 98 Operating System.
>
>Police booked Mr. Kuklis into the county detention center on public nuisance charges.

That's can't be our Aaron.  Our Aaron would have shot up the store and taken
hostages.

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