Linux-Advocacy Digest #840, Volume #29 Tue, 24 Oct 00 04:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Linux Beats NT! (Jeff Hall)
Re: Linux 2.4 mired in delays as Compaq warns of lack of momentum
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: Clearing things (2:1)
Re: Run for the hills! (2:1)
Re: Debian vs RedHat/Mandrake (2:1)
Re: IBM to BUY MICROSOFT!!!! (Shannon Hendrix)
Re: IBM to BUY MICROSOFT!!!! (Shannon Hendrix)
Re: IBM to BUY MICROSOFT!!!! (Shannon Hendrix)
Re: Migration --> NT costing please :-) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: Jeff Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux Beats NT!
Date: 24 Oct 2000 06:13:49 GMT
Drestin Black wrote:
>
>
> Of course, Attrition.org very intentionally combines NT with W2K so as to
> make it look like nothing has changed - when in fact if they were charting
> W2K seperately it would have THE lowest number of defacements of ALL OSes
> they track. But, they wouldn't do that, no... <sarcasm>that would make it
> look like <gasp> W2K is secure!</sarcasm>
>
Yeah, the problem is, the two or three sites using W2K can't keep it up long
enough for anyone to deface them.
Besides, when it does happen, you'd say it was just a (l)user problem anyway.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux 2.4 mired in delays as Compaq warns of lack of momentum
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 06:26:03 GMT
In article <39f4e558$0$32651$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Relax" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Bob Hauck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On 23 Oct 2000 18:34:17 -0500, Relax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >You still need the X Client subsystem - some sort of (remote)
graphical
> > >device interface - for your app to run. So, actually, there IS a
graphic
> > >subsystem on the server in your example.
> >
> > Yes, of course, on the X server, that which has the display and
> > keyboard attached, you need a graphic subsystem. But the client
does
> > not need such at all.
> >
> > You've got the terminology backward. X "serves" the display,
keyboard,
> > and mouse to the client program, which may be running on another
> > machine.
>
> No no, I didn't reverse anything. The X Client runs on the server
computer
> and routes graphic commands to the X Server running on the client
computer.
> My point is, the X Client running on the server computer does more or
less
> what GDI is on a server computer: it's a graphical subsystem (again,
running
> on the _server_ computer) that exposes graphic primitives for apps to
call.
> This has nothing to do with hardware display drivers of printer
drivers. One
> notable difference is that on NT/2000, that graphical subsystem is
partially
> in kernel space for performance reasons.
Xlib is basically a DLL that is loaded by processes that want to draw on
an X server. Xlib is 100% userland code.
I would not say that Xlib is like GDI though. Xlib is very simple
compared to GDI as it mostly ques up X calls and sends them to the X
server (via unix pipe or TCP) in bigger chunks to avoid many context
switches in the case of a pipe or a flurry of small packets in the case
of TCP over network. The bulk of the work is then done by the X server.
X demands a 'heavier' thin client than NT TermServer. That's why in the
documentation clients for NT TermServer are called superthin clients.
For example the conversion of fonts from vectors to bitmaps for a
particular point size is done on the thin client in X.
Another example. A program may specify which mouse events it wants for
a window. If the program tells the X server that it wants 'mouse
movement' events for a certain window then network trafic is generated
when the mouse is moved inside that window otherwise no network traffic
is generated because the program doesn't care about that information.
for NT: program--GDI--pseudo graphics driver--network
connection--client--graphics driver(on thin client)
for X: program--Xlib--network or pipe--XServer--graphics driver
So basically for X the client machine (which is the X server) needs to
have more software and memory than the NT TermServer. Each connected
client uses more resources (memory and CPU) on NT TermServer than on
let's say a Unix host.
> > Anyway, the client machine, where the program runs, does not need
any
> > display hardware or drivers at all, only the X libraries
>
> Same here. But the graphical subsystem is still required, X lib or
Gdi32
>
> >, which are
> > just normal shared libraries running in user mode. So, you can run
X
> > apps from your web server and display them on other machines without
> > said web server needing to have any graphics hardware or drivers at
> > all.
>
> Exactly the same with Terminal Server, just many times faster. (This
last
> point will be hard to prove here. I hope you get a chance to check it
out
> yourself)
>
Traffic between Xlib and X is not compressed or encrypted. It would be
stupid to do so for a local connection through a pipe for obvious
reasons. For a slower network or to save bandwidth you can push the
traffic through a proxy to compress and/or encrypt it -- this helps for
low bandwidth at the expense of some CPU usage.
I played with terminal server using ICA client for a little while and
say that for things like word processors and such it generally is faster
than X. For other things X was much faster.
We played an asteroids game over modem on NT TermServer and Linux. On
NT it started up quickly but was unplayable. On X it took a long time
to start but was acutally playable. Under X go can make a device
context in memory and then bitblit() it to a device context on the
display. The X version of asteroids spent much time starting up
generating images of all various size asteroids at various rotations in
memory. Later it could just bitblit() them to the display.
So I would say speed depends on the app - since the 'network' is
inserted at different points on the two models. A single high level
call to X or GDI can generate a bunch of work at the driver -- in this
case X is faster. Or you can have a bunch of calls to X or GDI that
barely do anything on the screen -- in this case NT TermServer wins.
On a different note I didn't yet mess with 2000 TermServer just NT
Termserver so I have a few questions for you.
NT is a single user OS so I read that Citrix did the original hacks to
NT to make TermServer sort of multiuser. Problems I remember are:
Some API functions were not compatible (like CreateSemaphore, etc).
There weren't disk quotas which is pathetic for multiuser (I assume 2K
now has them)
There weren't any memory or process limits. A user could for example
write a batch program that calls itself and this recursion would run
until all memory was allocated by that single user and nobody else could
do anything.
Have all these been fixed?
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 03:06:49 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 10/23/00
> at 06:37 AM, "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> 1. I wouldn't know your unit, because I don't read all the drivel you spill
> out. -- You really are full of yourself to think anyone with a brain is
> interested in your line of crap.
>
> 2. Haven't seen one person anywhere else who believes you either.
>
> 3. Its time for you shut up. You're a useless loud mouth that no one wants to
> be around.
>
> 4. Will there ever be an end to your bullshit?
Do you have a point?
>
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >> Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> >>
> >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> >> >>
> >> >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >"Loren Petrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> >> >> >> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Static66
> >> >> >> >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> > On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 05:07:26 GMT, Loren Petrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >> >> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> > >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, STATIC66
> >> >> >> >> >> > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> Keep ducking and weaving Loren!! You don't like hearing than
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> "visionary" Algore is a rich,poluting,beltway boy do you???
> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> > > Something you right-wingers normally pride yourself on being.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > HaHaHaHa yes we are all rich, poluting bastards..Still not coming to
> >> >> >> >> >> > terms with reality are you...
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Thank you for admitting what you are.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >I'm not sure wich is more pathetic, his poor attempt at sarcasm, or
>your not
> >> >> >> >> >catching/admitting it was so.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Chad,
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Your comments tell us that you are depriving a village somewhere of an
>idiot.
> >> >> >> >> -- that means you are an asshole. Go away and stay away.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >So says the hypocrite LeTurd who posts from the equally
> >> >> >> >hypocritical sover.net
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >Where the fuck do those people at sovereign.net get off trying to ELIMINATE
> >> >> >> >the personal sovereignty of fellow citizens?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> You are not just a moron. If we go around the news groups we find you here
> >> >> >> whining about anyone who sees through your bull shit and calls you on it. On
> >> >> >> another group you currently have people calling you a phony since you
>claimed
> >> >> >> to have a Presidential Citation and yet disappeared when asked to prove it.
> >> >>
> >> >> >Joint Meritorious Unit Citation, idiot.
> >> >>
> >> >> Listen up you scumball -- there are vets in the other forum who asked you to
> >> >> prove your not wannbe phony. When are you going to prove it? Me, I want to
> >> >> see your DD214 because I'm betting 10 to 1 that you are fraud.
> >>
> >> >DD214 is an entirely USELESS piece of paper to those who lead productive
> >> >lives in the civilian world.
> >>
> >> >Besides, I am still serving in the military. What the fuck do I need an old
> >> >piece of paper that says I have 2 years time in service when I now have 11
> >> >years in ? HMMMMMMMM
> >>
> >> You haven't produced the proof of what you claim for anyone who has asked. Why
> >> is that? -- I too think you are a full of bullshit wannbe.
>
> >Even my most vocal critics have posted my current unit assignment, idiot.
>
> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Not only that, but from some of your other comments at times, I suspet that
> >> >> the only thing that has ever loved you is Rosy and her five friends. -- So see
> >> >> that shrink. It will help you. Honest.
> >>
> >> >You sound jealous and bitter.
> >> >Why is that?
> >>
> >> I have a real life, but you on the other hand go from one news group to
> >> another spewing hate and anger towards everyone but you. -- So I figure you
> >> haven't ever gotten anything but playing with yourself.
>
> >No, I only pick on shit-heads like yourself.
>
> >>
> >> You're a sickie who should not have a security clearance. -- If I knew your
> >> unit number I would call your commander, because I suspect you are not only a
> > ^^^^^^^^^^
>
> >Translation: "I suspect" = [LeTurd] has no actual evidence for anything
> > that he is saying.
>
> >> security risk, but a major morale problem he would like to get rid of.
>
> >Oh really. That must be why my company commander just moved me into a slot
> >with more authority.
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -----------------------------------------------------------
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: 2:1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Clearing things
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 10:03:19 +0100
The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote
> on Sat, 21 Oct 2000 18:04:34 +0100
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >>Since Windows 95, all Win32 applications
> >> behave preemptively.
> >
> >That is horseshit. The preemptive multitasking under Win95 is
> >nonexistent.
>
> No, I believe he's correct. The Win32-based tasks multitask
> preemptively. The win16-based tasks, however, do not.
Under windows 95, they do not multitask very well. The mouse seems to be
the most robust bit.
-Ed
> And it's not clear what the memory protections are.
>
> At some point, though, I'll have to boot into Windows 95 and test this.
> (How, I'm not sure. Why, I'm even less sure. :-) )
>
> [rest snipped]
>
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
--
Konrad Zuse should recognised. He built the first | Edward Rosten
binary digital computer (Z1, with floating point) the | Engineer
first general purpose computer (the Z3) and the first | u98ejr@
commercial one (Z4). | eng.ox.ac.uk
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From: 2:1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Run for the hills!
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 10:05:52 +0100
Tim Palmer wrote:
>
> Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >"Pete Goodwin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Erik Funkenbusch) wrote in
> >> <_T3I5.2345$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >>
> >> >I've owned a TiVo for about 3 months. They've been here in the states
> >> >for a good 6-9 months.
> >> >
> >> >It's really a cool device and it's pretty stable, though the hardware
> >> >seems to be a bit flaky. I've had to restart it about 3 times (or once
> >> >a month or so) because the modem stops responding and I notice that it
> >> >seems to get slower the longer it's on.
> >> >
> >> >But all in all, it's a good device. I've even hacked in a new 80GB hard
> >> >disk to give 127 hours of recording time.
> >> >
> >> >As for your busy signals, they probably don't have enough local lines
> >> >for you.
> >>
> >> Sadly I returned it and got a refund. Two reasons: colour kept fading in
> >> and out, and sound kept clipping. They fixed one fault (a green line at
> >the
> >> top) but could only suggest swapping the box for the other two. The local
> >> store had ran out, so that was that.
> >
> >Did you change connections after powering up? It seems to only
> >adjust it's auto-power control on the cable input once as you
> >power on, so you can see those symptoms if you trade inputs
> >without a power cycle afterwards. But, if they saw the same
> >thing after you returned it, the problem must have been something
> >else.
>
> Okay, so now you half to B a sysadmin just to use a VCR, thanks to
> LIE-NUX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> > Les Mikesell
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
Reason to force Linux on to every desktop computer int the world (except
ones already running UNIX): it will keep the morron Tym Parma from
posting to this group.
I think that's a good enough reason.
-Ed
--
Konrad Zuse should recognised. He built the first | Edward Rosten
binary digital computer (Z1, with floating point) the | Engineer
first general purpose computer (the Z3) and the first | u98ejr@
commercial one (Z4). | eng.ox.ac.uk
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From: 2:1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Debian vs RedHat/Mandrake
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 10:14:41 +0100
Noone's really awnsered these questions. Can someone, please, since I
want to know:
1 How is deb better than rpm*. Lots of people say it is, but noone
really gives any details.
2 What is brainded about the RH startup scripts (I've had no problems
with them except in upgrades). How are the other distro's scripts
better?
* I recently had a problem with RPM. None of the gnome packages told me
I needed imlib-1.9 installed. The error came up as an unrefeenced call
to a function in an already existing library, which wasn't helpful >:-(
-Ed
--
Konrad Zuse should recognised. He built the first | Edward Rosten
binary digital computer (Z1, with floating point) the | Engineer
first general purpose computer (the Z3) and the first | u98ejr@
commercial one (Z4). | eng.ox.ac.uk
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shannon Hendrix)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: IBM to BUY MICROSOFT!!!!
Date: 23 Oct 2000 15:34:14 -0400
In article <55CH5.13009$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What I stated about Linux not being able to detect RAM properly is a simple
> fact, check it.
I think you need to prove it.
In the past, Linux used PC/Microsoft methods of checking memory. Just
like with Microsoft Windows, it could fail. This was not a bug in
Linux: it used BIOS when booting. Even today, some PC motherboards
and BIOS are broken. The worst problem is the stupid hard drive
geometry and booting "standards" for PC BIOS.
It has been quite some time since this problem was fixed in Linux. It
no longer uses BIOS to check RAM as far as I know. I never had a
motherboard which had this problem myself, so even Windows worked.
How about this: try booting Windows on a system that doesn't support
the DOS 640K/high memory/A20 crutches.
--
"Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny." -- Unknown
shannon @ w i d o m a k e r . com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shannon Hendrix)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: IBM to BUY MICROSOFT!!!!
Date: 23 Oct 2000 15:39:20 -0400
In article <WGgI5.32396$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Otto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Linux does detect the memory correctly, although it uses only the first 64
> MB of it until you change some configuration files. Chad might've meant
> that. The only distro I've seen which detects and uses all of the memory was
> Caldera 2.4.
This is not true. Sigh...
The problem is that when Linux is being loaded, a check was made,
basically a BIOS call for memory (can't remember which one), and it
often returned 64M at the most. If you knew you had 128MB of RAM then
you added a boot parameter to Linux to tell it how much RAM you had
since your BIOS/motherboard combination couldn't get it right.
This is a PC/BIOS bug, not a Linux bug.
> As for the "audio CD" part.... nah, no comment.
Windows ME found my new laser printer yesterday. I have looked
everywhere for it, but still can't find it. Must be really small...
:)
Oh, and it rediscovered very @#%# chip on my motherboard last week. I
think I moved the CPU. It must detect CPU case movement and redected
everything just in case you snuck in some new parts... :)
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________
______________________/ armchairrocketscientistgraffitiexenstentialist
"We have nothing to prove" -- Alan Dawkins
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shannon Hendrix)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: IBM to BUY MICROSOFT!!!!
Date: 23 Oct 2000 20:42:35 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
The Ghost In The Machine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> IBM Market Cap: $168B
> MSFT Market Cap: $277.1B
It isn't just a matter of purchasing their stock. I don't believe
Microsoft could even do that. In a buyout the price paid per share is
usually set after an analysis of the net worth of a company, taking
into account it's debt as well as its assets.
In fact, I'm fairly certain the SEC/FTC regulates this to prevent
corruption (like selling a company with a billion $ in assets for
$10K... might raise some eyebrows to corruption).
IBM's physical assets alone are staggering. IBM is more a nation than
a corporation. Like AT&T, they also have other large assets like
right-of-way and cables. They also have royalty income, patents,
software assets, human assets, vehicles, buildings, fabrication plants
and research labs (each alone worth billions), and real estate.
It would be... difficult for Microsoft to buy them. Would be hard for
anyone to buy IBM in fact. Sad too... little in the world sucks more
than Compaq owning Digital, even though DEC kinda asked for it.
--
"Star Wars Moral Number 17: Teddy bears are dangerous in herds."
shannon @ w i d o m a k e r . com
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Migration --> NT costing please :-)
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 04:04:50 -0400
Drestin Black wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Drestin Black wrote:
> > >
> > > and considering that both of the ISPs in Luxemburg run BSD we can
> announce
> > > that the ENTIRE country of Luxemburg is connected via BSD - talk about
> > > market penetration! Wow!
> > >
> > > ...and this means what to the rest of the world??
> >
> >
> > Luxumberg has 100% REJECTED NT.
> >
> >
> > Remember, these people have an even better banking system than the Swiss.
>
> And they have 100% REJECTED LINUX.
Linux and BSD are cousins .. .like apes and orangatans...both high-order primates.
Meanwhile, NT is still at the level of unevolved sea-insect life.
Like all insects, it can do ONE thing quite well, but nothing else.
In the case of NT, that one thing is "halting all useful activity and
announcing it with a blue display screen"
>
> ... and this means what to the rest of the world??
They chose Unix (primates), not unevolved NewTermites.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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