Linux-Advocacy Digest #857, Volume #29 Wed, 25 Oct 00 18:13:02 EDT
Contents:
An entire morning wasted on a Linux install. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: what to do when.... (Gardiner Family)
Re: An entire morning wasted on a Linux install. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: An entire morning wasted on a Linux install. ("Bob B.")
Re: Linux growth rate explosion! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Obscurity != security (Was: Pros and Cons of MS Windows Dominated ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: An entire morning wasted on a Linux install. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Microsoft Speaks German! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Microsoft Speaks German! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: An entire morning wasted on a Linux install. (.)
Re: Why is MS copying Sun??? (Matt Kennel)
Re: An entire morning wasted on a Linux install. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: An entire morning wasted on a Linux install.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 20:28:35 GMT
IBM Thinkpad 765L with 3 gig blank un partitioned hard disk.
Sigma Data 24x CDROM (says IBM certified on label) in Ultrabay.
USR PCMCIA 56K modem.
Linksys Cardbus PCMCIA Ethernet card.
64 Meg memory.
And one friend who asked me to install Linux, no particular
distribution in mind. Just something "nice" so he can try Linux.
I try Mandrake 7.x as my first choice and slap the CD in only to
discover this particular machine will not boot from the CD no matter
what I do in the BIOS. Ok so I follow the somewhat screwed up
directions and make a boot diskette. Still the CDROM doesn't get
recognized despite trying every *.img file on the CD. Ok so now I
figure maybe Mandrake is screwy so I try RedHat 6.2 and get similar
results. At this point I start to think maybe the CDROM drive is
defective so I make a startup diskette on one of my Windows 98se
machines, which has obviously completely different hardware, and try
it. Bingo it recognizes the CDROM and also the fact that the hardisk
is not partitioned. Going one step farther, I partition the drive and
put the Windows 98 SE CDROM in and start an install. Works like a
champ. This is with a startup diskette from a completely different
system with completely different hardware, and yet it seems to install
some generic Oak Cdrom driver to make it work until Windows can
install the proper driver.
Not to be daunted, I wipe the drive and try SuSE 6.4 via the boot
diskette method and FINALLY the CD is recognized and I am able to
install Linux. All hardware except sound is working fine.
I took the "Install almost Everything" option and it took about 2.5
hours to complete with 1.7 gig of drive space used. Granted this is
not the fastest of machines (although the CD is 24x) at P166mhz.
Now comes the fun part. Getting this beast to talk to the other
machines on the network. I've tried it on my network and I can ping
the ICS machine (running Win 2k) but when I bring up Netscape on the
Linux machine it won't connect. What magic incantation do I need to
know in order to do this. On the other Win machines it just worked
from the start when I checked the "Share the Connection" tab.
Question #2 How could I have installed to the Laptop via FTP from the
CDROM mounted on the network CDROM? With a bare harddrive how would I
go about doing this. Is there some cookbook (I am network challenged)
procedure somewhere?
I'd like to get this thing back to him tonight so he can play with
Linux a bit.
Claire
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From: Gardiner Family <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what to do when....
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 09:28:56 +1300
Tell them that you replaced the standard windows desktop with "linux look"
skin, from the sounds of it, your boss is a right nit witt.
matt
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: An entire morning wasted on a Linux install.
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 16:56:26 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> IBM Thinkpad 765L with 3 gig blank un partitioned hard disk.
> Sigma Data 24x CDROM (says IBM certified on label) in Ultrabay.
> USR PCMCIA 56K modem.
> Linksys Cardbus PCMCIA Ethernet card.
> 64 Meg memory.
>
> And one friend who asked me to install Linux, no particular
> distribution in mind. Just something "nice" so he can try Linux.
Bullshit.....
Large blob of bullshit below...
>
> I try Mandrake 7.x as my first choice and slap the CD in only to
> discover this particular machine will not boot from the CD no matter
> what I do in the BIOS. Ok so I follow the somewhat screwed up
> directions and make a boot diskette. Still the CDROM doesn't get
> recognized despite trying every *.img file on the CD. Ok so now I
> figure maybe Mandrake is screwy so I try RedHat 6.2 and get similar
> results. At this point I start to think maybe the CDROM drive is
> defective so I make a startup diskette on one of my Windows 98se
> machines, which has obviously completely different hardware, and try
> it. Bingo it recognizes the CDROM and also the fact that the hardisk
> is not partitioned. Going one step farther, I partition the drive and
> put the Windows 98 SE CDROM in and start an install. Works like a
> champ. This is with a startup diskette from a completely different
> system with completely different hardware, and yet it seems to install
> some generic Oak Cdrom driver to make it work until Windows can
> install the proper driver.
> Not to be daunted, I wipe the drive and try SuSE 6.4 via the boot
> diskette method and FINALLY the CD is recognized and I am able to
> install Linux. All hardware except sound is working fine.
> I took the "Install almost Everything" option and it took about 2.5
> hours to complete with 1.7 gig of drive space used. Granted this is
> not the fastest of machines (although the CD is 24x) at P166mhz.
>
> Now comes the fun part. Getting this beast to talk to the other
> machines on the network. I've tried it on my network and I can ping
> the ICS machine (running Win 2k) but when I bring up Netscape on the
> Linux machine it won't connect. What magic incantation do I need to
> know in order to do this. On the other Win machines it just worked
> from the start when I checked the "Share the Connection" tab.
>
> Question #2 How could I have installed to the Laptop via FTP from the
> CDROM mounted on the network CDROM? With a bare harddrive how would I
> go about doing this. Is there some cookbook (I am network challenged)
> procedure somewhere?
>
> I'd like to get this thing back to him tonight so he can play with
> Linux a bit.
>
> Claire
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Bob B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: An entire morning wasted on a Linux install.
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 14:22:19 -0700
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > IBM Thinkpad 765L with 3 gig blank un partitioned hard disk.
> > Sigma Data 24x CDROM (says IBM certified on label) in Ultrabay.
> > USR PCMCIA 56K modem.
> > Linksys Cardbus PCMCIA Ethernet card.
> > 64 Meg memory.
> >
> > And one friend who asked me to install Linux, no particular
> > distribution in mind. Just something "nice" so he can try Linux.
>
> Bullshit.....
>
> Large blob of bullshit below...
>
<rest of previous post snipped>
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> ICQ # 3056642
>
> http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
>
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
> A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
>
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
> G: Knackos...you're a retard.
Now here is great representative of the Linux "community" - he doesn't
try to refute or explain anything, his only contribution is to say
"bullshit". And as if this wasn't already wasting enough bandwidth, he
includes a 37 line signature.
With advocates like this, its a wonder that ANYONE is using Linux.
Bob B.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux growth rate explosion!
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 17:24:21 -0400
Drestin Black wrote:
>
> "Charlie Ebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > JS/PL wrote:
> >
> > > "Charlie Ebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > http://counter.li.org/
> > > >
> > > > GEEZE look at this thing.
> > > > Look at the growthrates!
> > > >
> > > > They are saying now, with several commercial firms backing it up that
> > > > 21% of all web browsers in the world now are powered by Linux!
> > > >
> > > > WOW! 21%. WHAT WHAT WHAT 21% WOW!!!!
> > > >
> > > > That the growth rate in several countries are consistently over
> > > > 100% with about 50 being in the 4 digit % bracket.
> > > > Over 2000% growth!!
> > > >
> > > > Linux is just taking off like wildfire across all of Europe, South
> > > > America
> > > > and Asia.
> > > >
> > > > The balance of power is changing a lot more rapidly than I
> anticipated.
> > > >
> > > > I think I can say with confidence that by 2003 Microsoft will not
> > > > be used outside of US boarders to the degree it is today.
> > > > Microsoft will be a single digit player by 2003 overseas.
> > > >
> > > > The United States and Canada are still chugging along at
> > > > 16% to 40% depending on which graph you read.
> > > >
> > > > The other graphs vary but they seem to be consistantly over 500%
> growth
> > > > for Europe, South America and Asia no matter how you slice it.
> > > >
> > > > That just astounds me! WOW!
> > > >
> > > > Clearly this would simply be dismissed had it not been for all the
> rest
> > > > of the private-commercial statistics groups who backed up most of
> > > > the numbers!!!!
> > > >
> > > > SO, we went from 3-5% to 21% of the worlds computer users!
> > > >
> > > > And we did this all in the span from May, 1999 to now.
> > > >
> > > > So this explains why Microsoft is running that AD in europe!
> > > > YES! They must already know then that Microsoft is bleeding
> > > > to death overseas.
> > > >
> > > > http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2000-10-21-017-06-NW-CY-MS
> > > >
> > > > http://www.koehntopp.de/kris/msad.jpg
> > > >
> > > > Jeez! They are just taking an ass wiping!
> > > >
> > > > Charlie
> > >
> > > That's quite odd because the combined statistics of all web sites
> (566,000
> > > of them) using thecounter.com's counter shows Linux OS users to be about
> > > "0%" out of 458,991,203 combined visitors last month. Hmm...
> > >
> > > September 2000
> > > 1. Win 98 303539944 (66%)
> > > 2. Win 95 76819732 (16%)
> > > 3. Win NT 34527360 (7%)
> > > 4. Win 2000 15454715 (3%)
> > > 5. Unknown 12760235 (2%)
> > > 6. Mac 9667128 (2%)
> > > 7. WebTV 3114516 (0%)
> > > 8. Linux 1373239 (0%)
> > > 9. Unix 888184 (0%)
> > > 10. Win 3.x 755419 (0%)
> > > 11. OS/2 64124 (0%)
> > > 12. Amiga 26607 (0%)
> > >
> > > And note that numbers of Linux users are actually DOWN 11% from July
> 2000
> > > even though total visitors are up by 9.5% (43 million).
> > >
> > > Now lets look at July 2000 502,483,035
> > >
> > > 1. Win 98 318538810 (63%)
> > > 2. Win 95 101594073 (20%)
> > > 3. Win NT 41047771 (8%)
> > > 4. Win 2000 11423496 (2%)
> > > 5. Unknown 11038874 (2%)
> > > 6. Mac 10700310 (2%)
> > > 7. WebTV 4098814 (0%)
> > > 8. Linux 1543963 (0%)
> > > 9. Unix 1214391 (0%)
> > > 10. Win 3.x 1168735 (0%)
> > > 11. OS/2 79389 (0%)
> > > 12. Amiga 34409 (0%)
> > >
> > > http://www.thecounter.com/stats/
> >
> > Hey. That's an excellent point.
> > Linux stat's are showing a massive Microsoft beating
> > and YET they have had a smaller percentage of Linux
> > users come in and stat for them.
> >
> > This means the figures for Linux's growth are even
> > greater than posted. How much greater is anybody's
> > speculation but certainly greater than that posted.
> >
>
> There are more WebTV users than Linux ones and you still wanna go on about
> this? hahahahahaha
There are more dullards than geniuses.
And your point is?
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.security.misc
Subject: Re: Obscurity != security (Was: Pros and Cons of MS Windows Dominated
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 17:25:39 -0400
Drestin Black wrote:
>
> "Perry Pip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On 23 Oct 2000 18:52:09 -0500,
> > Drestin Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >"Perry Pip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > ><snip>
> > >
> > >> No, you're wrong. CERT is not a statistic. They merely provide
> > >> information. It's up to admins to use that information. With
> > >> Linux/Unix, more information is availabe because it's open, which
> > >> ultimately results in more secure software.
> > >>
> > >> Here is a statistic:
> > >>
> > >> http://www.attrition.org/mirror/attrition/os-graphs.html
> > >>
> > >> NT gets cracked more than anything. And with most of those NT machines
> > >> NOBODY KNOWS HOW THEY WERE CRACKED!!!. THAT'S REALLY SCARY!!!!
> > >
> > >Actually, everyone knows how they were cracked. You meant that YOU don't
> > >know how. That's not suprising.
> >
> > Tell us how then:-) Identify all the vulnerabilties that were used and
> > point me the the patches.
>
> Try the usual places like security focus, attrion's various irc channels as
> well as other irc channels, surf the security websites (including CERT) to
> get your lists of IIS 3-4 and/or FP vulnerabilities. Of course, you won't
> find any for IIS5.
>
> >
> > >p.s., as of today, there have been 7 defacements of W2K sites in October,
> >
> > Duh....because nobody's deploying W2k.
>
> Nice try, but wrong.
>
> >
> > >but 107 for Linux -
> >
> > and 139 for NT!!
>
> old sites without updates... unlike the nice new linux sites with,
> supposedly smarter admins.
No need to update.
Neutered Technology is still playing catch-up with Unix/Linux.
>
> <snip>
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: An entire morning wasted on a Linux install.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 21:30:15 GMT
On Wed, 25 Oct 2000 14:22:19 -0700, "Bob B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Now here is great representative of the Linux "community" - he doesn't
>try to refute or explain anything, his only contribution is to say
>"bullshit". And as if this wasn't already wasting enough bandwidth, he
>includes a 37 line signature.
Fortunately he's NOT representative of the Linux community and I know
that.
Screwballs are non-operating system dependent.
Claire
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft Speaks German!
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 17:28:31 -0400
Drestin Black wrote:
>
> "Charlie Ebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > Charlie Ebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >I found it interesting that they actually spent money
> > > >on this one. Who was their Ad man?
> > >
> > > It was a stupid move. It only serves to show that Linux is
> > > legit and M$ is worried about it.
> > >
> >
> > Well, let's put it this way!
> > It was a totally childish move by Microsoft to
> > run a negative campaign ad in Europe.
>
> If it is childish to run a negative campaign against a company by another
> company than I guess the entire business world is nothing but tottlers in
> diapers... But NONE more so than the Linux babies. I have never EVER visited
> a linux site or read an article about linux that did not slam MS,
MS business practices are criminal.
Their operating systems are unstable.
When talking about a superior product, the old 'compare and contrast'
to the lousy (M$) product is standard fare in all of LIFE.
You're just upset because everybody knows that you're a power-luser.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft Speaks German!
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 17:29:15 -0400
Drestin Black wrote:
>
> "Perry Pip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 00:19:48 -0400,
> > JS/PL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >Yea right. I have have grown to accept that every single article about
> Linux
> > >will likely contain at least one slam against Microsoft. The whole Linux
> > >campaign is built upon negativity towards Microsoft.
> >
> > What "Linux campaign". Who's running this campaign?
>
> Just ask yourself: What linux user community?
>
> There is your answer.
Drestin-lack-o-facts, just admit that you're a power-Luser....
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Subject: Re: An entire morning wasted on a Linux install.
Date: 25 Oct 2000 21:33:50 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Now comes the fun part. Getting this beast to talk to the other
> machines on the network. I've tried it on my network and I can ping
> the ICS machine (running Win 2k) but when I bring up Netscape on the
> Linux machine it won't connect. What magic incantation do I need to
> know in order to do this.
Uhhmmm...Open up YAST and set your DNS, you tragic moron. And your
gateway as well. (thats the ip of the machine that sits at the
edge of your network, between you and the rest of the world!)
> On the other Win machines it just worked
> from the start when I checked the "Share the Connection" tab.
> Question #2 How could I have installed to the Laptop via FTP from the
> CDROM mounted on the network CDROM? With a bare harddrive how would I
> go about doing this. Is there some cookbook (I am network challenged)
> procedure somewhere?
Yep, theres all that linux experience youve been touting.
=====.
k
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matt Kennel)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.lang.java.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why is MS copying Sun???
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 21:51:02 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: mbkennel@<REMOVE THE BAD DOMAIN>yahoo.spam-B-gone.com
:
:I would certainly give Microsoft credit for all the marketing it's done,
:though, to increase its customer base and make personal computers less
:"mysterious" to non-technical people.
What marketing was that exactly?
The increase in the customer base is due to Moore's law, and thousands
of unheralded semiconductor engineers.
--
* Matthew B. Kennel/Institute for Nonlinear Science, UCSD
*
* "To chill, or to pop a cap in my dome, whoomp! there it is."
* Hamlet, Fresh Prince of Denmark.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: An entire morning wasted on a Linux install.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 22:00:35 GMT
On 25 Oct 2000 21:33:50 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Now comes the fun part. Getting this beast to talk to the other
>> machines on the network. I've tried it on my network and I can ping
>> the ICS machine (running Win 2k) but when I bring up Netscape on the
>> Linux machine it won't connect. What magic incantation do I need to
>> know in order to do this.
>
>Uhhmmm...Open up YAST and set your DNS, you tragic moron. And your
>gateway as well. (thats the ip of the machine that sits at the
>edge of your network, between you and the rest of the world!)
I did that already.
>> On the other Win machines it just worked
>> from the start when I checked the "Share the Connection" tab.
>
>> Question #2 How could I have installed to the Laptop via FTP from the
>> CDROM mounted on the network CDROM? With a bare harddrive how would I
>> go about doing this. Is there some cookbook (I am network challenged)
>> procedure somewhere?
>
>Yep, theres all that linux experience youve been touting.
Never said I was a network expert. All the machines I've installed
Linux on had bootable CD's or in the case of older distros. the Boot
Floppy usually worked.
So now that YOUR advice didn't work, do you have any other ideas?
claire
>
>
>-----.
>
>k
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