Linux-Advocacy Digest #871, Volume #29           Fri, 27 Oct 00 07:13:03 EDT

Contents:
  Re: IBM to BUY MICROSOFT!!!! (Shannon Hendrix)
  Administrator multi-purpose wanted in France ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: 2.4 Kernel Delays. ("Erik Funkenbusch")
  Re: Sorry, Claire, but this is urgent (Gardiner Family)
  Re: Astroturfing ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Astroturfing ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Hello again Claire (Gardiner Family)
  Re: hardware problem (Gardiner Family)
  Re: An entire morning wasted on a Linux install. (Gardiner Family)
  Re: Astroturfing (Nick Condon)
  Re: hardware problem (Steven Smolinski)
  Re: Linux Beats NT! (Gardiner Family)
  Re: Linux growth rate explosion! (Gardiner Family)
  Another poor dork in deep shit, Claire! (Jacques Guy)
  Re: hardware problem (Gardiner Family)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shannon Hendrix)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: IBM to BUY MICROSOFT!!!!
Date: 27 Oct 2000 03:24:22 -0400

In article <F%fJ5.15978$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > In all fairness to Chad, Linux does not detect RAM correctly on certain
> > computers. For instance, the Thinkpad that I use...Linux will only detect
> > the first 64MB.
> 
> Certain? How about the majority.

I'm sure Chad will post his personal verification of this.

> Note: If you get this wrong, KERNEL PANIC...

I'm sure that no other OS panics if you like to it about the RAM it
has.

> > (That's with Staroffice and Netscape both active, along with other bits)
> 
> Both hogs, geez...

Windows lusers probably wouldn't notice high RAM usage, since it's
a normal every day issue.

> Spare us the Microsoft conspiracy bit... BeOS Personal Edition was able to
> detect it all just fine.

> Face it, it's yet another example of the less-than-good programming
> efforts of the Linux team.

Well, that's just too much bullshit from one human.  The meter is in
the red.

I only wish a killfile also removed Chad's posts from the archives too.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Administrator multi-purpose wanted in France
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 07:51:09 GMT

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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: 2.4 Kernel Delays.
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 04:10:48 -0500

"Charlie Ebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Compaq has made a significant stink of the delayed 2.4 kernel
> release.
>
> It's funny but I can't remember a single Windows version which wasn't
> delayed by months from the target release.

Of course 2.4 is well over a year late now.

> Bill Gates said Windows 95 would be released almost a year
> before it actually was.  Nobody said a damn thing about it.

Were you around on usenet then?  All kinds of people were bitching about it.

Of course you were right there to bitch about Windows 2000 being late:
http://www.deja.com/[ST_rn=ps]/getdoc.xp?AN=599101945&fmt=text

> Millions will NOT be made or lost to Linus if he was
> a year or two late with a kernel.  It doesn't bother
> the man one bit.  He's not under somebody else's
> gun.  And he never will be either.

Actually, he's employed by Transmeta, and he's doing specific kernel work
for them.  So he is indeed under somebody elses gun.

> In the Linux camp, nobody HAS to make money
> and there are NO SALARIES TO PAY.

You seem to forget that many companies DO in fact pay developers to do Linux
work. Red Hat certainly does.





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From: Gardiner Family <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sorry, Claire, but this is urgent
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 21:59:03 +1300

I am a New Zealander and I loved the closing and opening of the Olympic Games in
Sydney.  Just because it did not fit into the Americanized format that dominates
popular culture does not mean that it was not good.  I was also thrilled to see the
wide range of cultures and sections of society represented at the opening and
closing of the games (especially the Maori group representing New Zealand).  Unless
you Claire get out of the US, country of obesity, "free trade" on their own terms
(i.e. fuck everyone else, we (the USA) will keep tariffs, quotas and subsidies high
and screw other countries), and foreign policy that contradicts internal social
policy, and actually see the rest of the world (which is a darn site better than
the USA) you will continue to rot in you little suburban rotting neighbourhood in
the middle of no-where.

matt


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Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Astroturfing
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 05:01:49 -0400

, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Bowen) said:

>In article <39f8cd77$1$yrgbherq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Jason you are not just a twit, you are a very dumb asshole. Your argument was
>>that a low level cache would make the user of any operating system -- even a
>>single threaded-one like wincrap anything -- *more productive* because the
>>machine would run faster then the user of system without a low-level cache
>>that could multi-task very well. -- Focus on the word "Productive."  Look it
>>up  if you don't know what it means. 

>We were talking about hardware Ed.  You obviously can't differentiate between
>the hardware and software.  You didn't understand what was going on and
>instead of admitting this you keep looking like a dumb ass to anybody that
>has a small understanding of the hardware caching.


This is why you are complete idiot.  You try to argue a limited absolute, as
the only point to consider.  Hardware has no value without software that
allows it to do something. That changes the equation and the results. 

Now go away and growup. 





>>
>>I did try to explain it you several different times and in several different
>>ways. You didn't get it. That you keep whining the same stupid idea every time
>>you lose a point,  is proof that either you are a complete nincompoop, or a
>>petty immature grudge carying idiot,  or a person whose parents should
>>apologize to the world for breeding you.  -- My vote is for all three!

>No you didn't get it.  Tell me how OS/2 overcomes the CPU hardware caching
>again.  Me and all the EE's that are reading would love to know.

>>
>>I'm not sure why Colorado took you in or keeps you. Perhaps you are their
>>token dumbbell something and they can't get rid of you. But since you won't go
>>away and growup, and keep whining the same stupid argument, I am tempted to
>>locate your boss and ask if you're the department janitor playing with the
>>computers when no one is looking, or something more.  Because you certainly
>>have never displayed the brains or the good sense to shutup when you're wrong
>>-- and if you are in any position with responsibility beyond emptying the
>>trash, it implies to the outside world that the department has no respect for
>>itself or anyone else -- especially those who are paying good money to be
>>there.

>One things for sure, you couldn't pass the classes that I have.

>>
>>
>>-----------------------------------------------------------
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>-----------------------------------------------------------
>>


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Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Astroturfing
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 05:03:56 -0400

In <8tb2n8$prf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 10/27/00 
   at 05:10 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Bowen) said:

>Typical invective from somebody that lacks an argument.  Good day Ed! :-)

That is because you're an asshole who refuses to understand or consider any
argument you don't want to hear.   Your parents really should not breed any
more like you.

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From: Gardiner Family <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hello again Claire
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:05:30 +1300

Do you remember the dicussion about Windows being easier for users, here is
a perfect example of a poorly designed OS.  Had the filesystem been
replaced by something that actuall worked, ie ReiserFS (which I am running)
there would be no need to run a defragmenter thus this question would never
appeared.  I also remember you comment regarding windows, "no need to edit
text files", now look whats happened, a complete 360, it appears your
glorification of Windows is based on bull $*#.

matt

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> He has programs running in the background like a screensaver.
> Run msconfig and remove the check boxes from the following:
>
> Load Startup group items
> Processs system.ini File
> Process Config.sys File
> Process Autoexec.bat File
> Process Winstart.bat
> Process Win.ini File
>
> Reboot and run the defrag. How long it takes depends on the type of
> drive and how badly it is fragmented.
>
> After it is done, run msconfig again and check the Normal startup box
> and reboot.
>
> claire
>
> On Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:03:12 +0000, Jacques Guy
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >> Hi
> >> I have a brand new Pentium III 800 mzh, 64 RAM running WIN ME
> >> How long should it take to run Defrag
> >> I have a 30 Gig hard drive
> >> It took 4 hours is that normal and is it supposed to keep restarting
> >> over and over.
> >
> >Give the chap a hint, won't you darling?


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From: Gardiner Family <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: nz.comp
Subject: Re: hardware problem
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:13:47 +1300

I have used Redhat, however, I found it very disappointing that they are not
supporting resierfs, probably best to either grab a copy of Mandrake from Dick
Smiths or SuSE 7.0 Pro from Dr Floppy (http://www.drfloppy.co.nz) for around
$NZ189.95.  Both of them support this FS.

matt

Thing wrote:

> none wrote:
>
> > small problem, I have a new 30G ATA66 Drive, with a new BX2000+ motherboard.
>
> Are you using an ata66 cable? flashed to the latest BIOS? if not flash first.
>
> Set the motherboard to mode 4, (turn off udma support in the bios) and install
> RH, after that download a ready made ata66 2.2.16-3 img kernel.rpm from
> ftp.redhat.co.nz (under updates for 6.2). Install it, set the m/b to ata66 and
> boot.
>
> What make is BX2000+ ? it doesnt ring a bell with me, some of the unbranded m/bs
> are nightmares to try and get going support for the latest standards like ata 66
> can be a joke, does win2k run OK? maybe take it back and get something decent if
> its a no-name.
>
> > Redhat 6.2 didnt like ATA66, so I switched off the ATA66 support, and moved
> > the drive to plain IDE (ATA33), which for some reason the drive doesnt boot
> > even with w2k or lilo on the MBR. I was intending use RH6.2, and upgrade to
> > 2.4-test-xx, too support ATA66. I have 21G for Windows 2000, and 9G for
> > Linux (8.5G Linux/500Mb Swap)
>
> How much ram do you have? 120 swap matched to 128 meg of ram is usually enough
> for most things.
>
> I would suggest setting / (root) at 1 gig as hda1 as the first partition then 21
> gig for Win2k then use up 8.5 as follows, 3.5 for /usr. 1 gig for /var the rest
> as /home.
>
> > but the problem, if i switch the drive back
> > the ATA33 slot, install linux, how could I get W2K installed knowing that
> > the drive wont boot from it.
> > What I want is ATA66, Linux and W2K, working together, either with lilo or
> > W2K bootloader.
> >
> > btw i dont wanna buy/download the latest version of any distro. Rh6.2 is
> > good.
>
> RH 7 is buggy as hell avoiding for now is a good idea.
>
> Thing


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From: Gardiner Family <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: An entire morning wasted on a Linux install.
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:25:02 +1300

Why is it called the world series when only one country is involved? Do
the majority of Americans dispute the claim there are other countries
besides theirs on this earth?

matt


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From: Nick Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Astroturfing
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 10:30:42 +0100

Drestin Black wrote:

>  you actually are stupid enough to imagine that MS would need to pay
> anyone in some lightly trafficed advocacy newsgroup? The mind boggles at
> what this implies of the rest of your capacity for stupidity might be...

It's called "peer marketing", it's very trendy in ad-land right now, and there
are whole agencies that specialise in it. The target audience is not the
anti-MS poster the pro-MS poster argues with, but the lurkers. The group may be
lightly trafficked, but how many lurkers are there? Nobody nows. They are all
potential converts for The Church of Redmond.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steven Smolinski)
Subject: Re: hardware problem
Reply-To: Steven Smolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 09:38:13 GMT

Gardiner Family <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have used Redhat, however, I found it very disappointing that they are not
>supporting resierfs, probably best to either grab a copy of Mandrake from Dick
>Smiths or SuSE 7.0 Pro from Dr Floppy (http://www.drfloppy.co.nz) for around
>$NZ189.95.  Both of them support this FS.

Better yet, if you're going SuSE, don't buy the "Professional" version.
It's twice the price; just get the "Personal" version, install it, and
get the packages you're missing from the "Pro" version from their
ftp site through the YaST package management tool.  The reiserfs is
really quite well integrated, and SuSE is a great distro (except for
this new tiered pricing thing).

Steve

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From: Gardiner Family <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux Beats NT!
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:42:05 +1300

1. READ THE FUCKING POST, I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT FUCKING WEBSERVERS YOU
FUCKING CUNT HEAD, I AM TALKING ABOUT BIG FUCKING SERVERS USED INSIDE BIG
FUCKING CORPERATE NETWORKS SERVING HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS OF EMAILS, FILES
AND APPLICATIONS TO THOUSANDS OF USERS PER DAY.

2. TCP.ORG IS ACTUALLY THE WEBSITE FOR THE TEXAS CHURCH PLANTERS YOU FUCKING
CUNT HEAD, GET A FUCKING LIFE YOU FUCKING DICK HEAD.

3. RESEARCHED A NUMBER OF SITES (YAHOO.COM, GOOGLE.COM, REAL.COM,
WHITEHOUSE.GOV, BE.COM, IBM.COM, APPLE.COM, ZDNET.COM, WINZIP.COM) ALL USE A
UNIX VARIANT INSTEAD OF WINDOWS, GET THE FUCKING HINT, NOBODY WANTS TO USE
WINDOWS AS A WEBSERVER EXCEPT FOR THOSE TO GUTLESS TO STAND UP AGAINST THE
WINTEL MONOPOLY.

matt



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From: Gardiner Family <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux growth rate explosion!
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:45:44 +1300

Member of the family, can't be bothered changing the from title.

Matt

JS/PL wrote:

> "Gardiner Family" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Following on from other posters, it also fails to list the 200 copies I
> gave
> > out to students at my IT course when learning UNIX (Which is a very big
> > module, the copy installed on the UNIX server at my UNI. is Debian w/
> Kernel
> > 2.0.36).
> >
> > Matt
>
> Is your whole family contributing to the thread, or just you? Are you the
> Gardiner Family editor, or just a contributor?


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Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 09:54:10 +0000
From: Jacques Guy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Another poor dork in deep shit, Claire!


>Okay, here's the deal:

>I have a Windows 2000 server running SQL Server 7.0.  This server also
>performs the system backups which includes itself and a Novell server.
>The windows 2000 server is having problems connecting to the Novell
>Server.  I have GSNW & IPX/SPX installed on the 2000 server.  I have
>reinstalled GSNW & IPX/SPX several times.  They both appear to be
>working properly.

>Here is the strange part.  I was able to connect to the Novell server
>until I installed Veritas Backup Exec v8.0.  After this installing all
>connections to the Novell server are reported to have an unknown
>username or wrong password.

Make his Windows 2000 rock, luv!

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From: Gardiner Family <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: hardware problem
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 23:48:50 +1300

I probably would have done that however I am too lazy and I only have a 56K
connection (broadband in NZ is around $NZ90)

matt

Steven Smolinski wrote:

> Gardiner Family <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I have used Redhat, however, I found it very disappointing that they are not
> >supporting resierfs, probably best to either grab a copy of Mandrake from Dick
> >Smiths or SuSE 7.0 Pro from Dr Floppy (http://www.drfloppy.co.nz) for around
> >$NZ189.95.  Both of them support this FS.
>
> Better yet, if you're going SuSE, don't buy the "Professional" version.
> It's twice the price; just get the "Personal" version, install it, and
> get the packages you're missing from the "Pro" version from their
> ftp site through the YaST package management tool.  The reiserfs is
> really quite well integrated, and SuSE is a great distro (except for
> this new tiered pricing thing).
>
> Steve


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