Linux-Advocacy Digest #935, Volume #29 Mon, 30 Oct 00 03:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: Ms employees begging for food (Ketil Z Malde)
Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever ("JavaDuke")
Re: Tuff Competition for LINUX! ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: so REALLY, what's the matter with Microsoft? ("JavaDuke")
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: so REALLY, what's the matter with Microsoft? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 09:14:42 +0200
"Caldera OpenLinux User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I don;t think saysin this attack can affect anyone is smart to say. I
mean it
> really is unacceptable so the implications are huge.
> If you don;t get me then asnwer this.
> How does QAZ infect OS/2 or LINUX or FreeBSD?
> I use those OSs and wonder what risks I am at for this QAZ trojan
infection.
> What other OS vendor is tightly integrating their OS and apps and data?
>
As far as I understand, QAZ wouldn't work on linux/*bsd/Os2/mac it's
spesific to windows.
And as far as I understand, it shouldn't be a problem to make a QAZ-like
program for linux/bsd/os2
For a start, the way it worked was by emailing passwords to some mail acount
in russia.
How hard is it to make a program that spread through networks and email
passwords in any other os?
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From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 09:22:42 +0200
"Caldera OpenLinux User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Let me try to run the QAZ trojan virus. How do I get a visual basic marco
to
> run on LINUX? Or activeX controls?
Well, there is a project called KBasic that should let you do it.
I've heard about it some time ago, I don't know anything about it, though.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.arch,comp.os.netware.misc
Subject: Re: Ms employees begging for food
From: Ketil Z Malde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 07:29:49 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Caveman) writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Ketil Z Malde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> If I haven't seen further, it is by standing in the footprints of giants
> Exactly.
(If this is meant to be applicable to the other 110 lines of my post,
I'd like you to be a bit more specific. Mail me privately, if you
prefer)
> Step outside them and look at the sky.
Gray clouds with occasional glitches of silver and blue. Pretty good,
given the season and place.
> Software engineering is an established science which has existed for
> over two decades, yet it is almost never applied or if it is it's
> not scaled effectively to the size of the problem so it gets
> bypassed.
It's an engineer thing, I think. People tend to focus on the
technical issues, and consider planning a nuisance that delays them
from attacking the real problem. And documentation is an necessary(?)
evil that keeps them from getting onto the next problem.
My impression is that it isn't unique to software, but that software
to a larger extent are populated with self-taught cowboys - look at
juat about any web site and ask yourself whether they have done *any*
testing at all! My internet bank had a calendar tool you could use to
pick dates, but which inserted two digit years - something the rest of
the system would reject. Good, huh? Written by a large consultancy
company too.
There is also the question of complexity - while I'm sure many
hardware projects are quite complex, the general idea seems to do the
fast but simple stuff in hw, and the complex, less critical stuff in
sw. And since software is "soft", it is easier (for management) to
make changes late in the project.
I'm probably biased though.
But yeah, there's a definitive lack of discipline, and indeed some
development models (XP) are based on lack of discipline (or so it
seems)! It'll be interesting to see metrics on it.
-kzm
--
If I haven't seen further, it is by standing in the footprints of giants
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From: "JavaDuke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 20:33:08 +1300
calm down and take a big drink of UNIX and you will feel alright in the
morning.
javaduke
XYZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> My thoughts on Windows 2000....
>
> What a bug-ridden piece of shit. If I burn an audio CD, everything works
fine,
> but don't try burning another after it! The CD Writer driver (or something
in
> the subsystem) fucks itself up after the first burn...when you're burning
the
> second CD, it gets all the way to the end, then when it is 75% through
burning
> the last track, the whole application just disappears, and the CD Writer
locks
> up and won't let you eject the CD. Then when you play it, it plays fine,
> except for the spot where it stopped writing on the last track. What
absolute
> dogshit. So I have to burn a CD, reboot, burn another, reboot.
>
> I'm using beta video drivers...and due to the shitty design of the Win2000
> kernel, a problem in the driver will just spontaneously reboot the
computer
> without any fanfare.
>
> Did I mention that you *still* can't reliably kill a hung process in
Windoze?
> I have to physically unplug the goddamn machine from the wall when a
process
> gets hung...I can't even reboot...and I can't hit the reset button on the
> hardware because of the power-management crap. I thought one of the
> fundamental jobs of an operating system was to manage processes...how the
FUCK
> did that requirement slip past the Winblows engineers?
>
> Try running an old DOS game under Win2K? Forget about it. Alt-TAB out of
it
> and you're done. If you're lucky, it'll reboot automatically. Otherwise,
yank
> that plug again.
>
> Fucking Windows 2000. None of the myriad of serious design flaws in the
> previous versions of Windows have been addressed, but at least in this
version
> I have animated menus, a fancier taskbar, a new recycle bin icon.
>
> You know, Linux was a bit buggy at first...so was Solaris...but over time
they
> get more and more robust and stable and foolproof...but not Windows. It's
the
> same piece of bug-infested dogshit that it was from day one.
>
> My Solaris box has been up for 72 days. The last time I rebooted it, it
was
> for maintenance reasons. This fucking Windoze 2000 box needs to be
rebooted at
> least once a day. The only time it stays up for any length of time is if I
> don't use it to do any actual work.
>
> But don't worry, Bill G., there will always be plenty of cretinous
drooling
> assholes to buy your piece of shit wannabe "operating system".
>
>
> -X
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From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Tuff Competition for LINUX!
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 09:36:35 +0200
"lyttlec" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Les Mikesell wrote:
> >
> > "lyttlec" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > > For Charlie Ebert : How do you know that the the Windows and Office
> > > source was stolen?
> > >
> > > I would like to see either of you post something that settles the
> > > question. Its important to know one way or another based on something
> > > other than bald assertions. If the Russian Mafia and Chineese Triads
do
> > > have the source, then they have a lot of power.
> >
> > Why? Do you think they will fix the bugs and take over the
> > software monopoly? The only thing you lose by letting others
> > see your source is the ability to keep selling bad software.
> >
> > Les Mikesell
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I don't think they will fix the bugs. I think they will exploit the bugs
> and hidden backdoors to rob banks and extort money from companies. Being
> professionals, they will do this in a manner that doesn't bring wide
> spread attention to themselves. As long as they don't bring attention to
> the bugs, MS will never fix the bugs.
W2K is going to run Navy *ships*, weapon systems, engines, all sorts of
things.
The USA goverment is going to accept all sorts of exploits in W2k without a
comment, how briliant from them.
__________________
07, may 2001, a crisis between china & taiwan force the USA to send a
carrier battle group to the taiwan, the following converstion takes place in
china military headquarters.
Chinese nerd: Have no worry, commarade, using the source code we've
successfully stollen from MS *spit on the floor in disgust* and with my
trusty debian computer, I'll soon have absolute control in the USS Carrier.
Chinese commarade: Good job. Really good job. What sorts of things can you
do?
Chinese nerd: I can make it look like the president is giving them orders,
ruin the engines, stop their guns from firing, and... Well, you get the
point, MS software has a lot of... um... feathures.
Chinese commarade: Any place that you think we should bomb first?
Chinese nerd: Well... I've never liked Redmond very much.
_________________
And as they say around here, THINK about it.
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From: "JavaDuke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: so REALLY, what's the matter with Microsoft?
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 20:42:19 +1300
Microsoft is netorious for half quality pieces of software. The reason why
they sell half quality pieces of software is because the general public is
very uneducated thus easy to manupulate into buying the next greatest
version of Windows or Office. When marketing software, would you advertise,
Windows 98 with all the bugs fixed in it, or, Windows 98 with over 20,000
new features, which one sounds more sexy to the average consumer? The
average consumer is very quick to jump on the feature bandwagon, even at
their own demise. Until the average consumer becomes more educated, their
expectations of software companies will never change, however, once
consumers become more educated, they will demand products that are not only
feature rich but also very stable.
javaduke
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 02:41:25 -0500
Bruce Schuck wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Bruce Schuck wrote:
> > >
> > > "Charlie Ebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > > There has been much talk about hidden ports in
> > > > the back end of all windows products in the last
> > > > year.
> > >
> > > Anyone who runs Zonealarm -- which reports unauthorized TCP/IP traffic
> IN
> > > and OUT knows you are full of sh*t.
> > >
> > > We Zonalarm users know who has the hidden ports -- Real Audio , Adware
> etc
> > > etc.
> > >
> > > It ain't the Microsoft OS.
> > >
> > > What a bunch of morons you Linux advocates are.
> > >
> > > If you think Microsft could sneak hidden TCP/IP traffic past all the
> > > Microsoft haters masquerading as security experts you are dummer than a
> bag
> > > of hammers.
> >
> > Then why did Microsoft suffer 3+ months of unauthorized access from
> Russia?
>
> It was week. And the QAZ trojan infected an employees home machine. And it
> had access to the LAN, probably via a VPN.
>
If it was only a week, then why did Microsoft say 3 months?
> Any corporation allowing internal access via VPN's are vulnerable using the
> exact same scenario.
And WHO is it that pushes this VPN crap, exactly?
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: so REALLY, what's the matter with Microsoft?
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 02:42:27 -0500
Bruce Schuck wrote:
>
> "Timothy Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > "Bruce Schuck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >"Nigel Feltham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >news:8ti7n7$mv23f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > >> MS don't care if files created by their applications can be read by the
> > >huge
> > >> numbers of users who don't use their operating system as if Unix /
> FreeBSD
> > >/
> > >> Linux / Apple don't exist in MS's world.
> > >
> > >Whan was the last time the Unix world did anything to make life easier
> for
> > >Microsoft?
> > >
> > >Get real.
> > >
> > >As for Apple, without Microsoft it would be dead, dead, dead. Without
> Word
> > >and Excel there would have benn zero reasons for anyone in the business
> > >world to allow Apples in.
> > >
> > When the Gore DOJ gets through with Big Software, the Word and Excel
> > Corporations, no longer having an O.S. monopoly to enforece, will port
> > their product to linux/unix.
>
> No. It's unlikely your fantasy world will come to place ... but if it does:
>
Actually, it will probably continue of Bush is elected, also.
Texas Attorney General's component of the suit is one of the largest.
> If they have to they will come out with Microsoft Linux and make sure Word
> and Excel ports only work on that version of Linux. It will look a lot like
> Corel Linux, the most user friendly Linux.
>
> And it will run Microsft .NET real well.
>
> And the stock value of the two companies will be much greater than the
> current value of Microsoft.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 09:58:47 +0200
"XYZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> My thoughts on Windows 2000....
>
> What a bug-ridden piece of shit. If I burn an audio CD, everything works
fine,
> but don't try burning another after it! The CD Writer driver (or something
in
> the subsystem) fucks itself up after the first burn...when you're burning
the
> second CD, it gets all the way to the end, then when it is 75% through
burning
> the last track, the whole application just disappears, and the CD Writer
locks
> up and won't let you eject the CD. Then when you play it, it plays fine,
> except for the spot where it stopped writing on the last track. What
absolute
> dogshit. So I have to burn a CD, reboot, burn another, reboot.
CD-R type, version, and driver used.
Win2k type, version
Computer details?
Application that you use?
> I'm using beta video drivers...and due to the shitty design of the Win2000
> kernel, a problem in the driver will just spontaneously reboot the
computer
> without any fanfare.
Well, it just proves that you don't know much about win2k.
Right click my computer > propeties >Advace > StartUp & Recovery, uncehck
"Automatically Reboot"
Write down the BSOD, 99% that you've a driver/hardware failure.
Video card type/driver type?
Why are you blaming win2k for your fault at using beta drivers in the first
place?
> Did I mention that you *still* can't reliably kill a hung process in
Windoze?
> I have to physically unplug the goddamn machine from the wall when a
process
> gets hung...I can't even reboot...and I can't hit the reset button on the
> hardware because of the power-management crap. I thought one of the
> fundamental jobs of an operating system was to manage processes...how the
FUCK
> did that requirement slip past the Winblows engineers?
Get the NT Option pack , nice little utility there called Kill.exe
But 90% of the time you can make do with "net stop" or simply End Task from
windows task manager
Hold power button for 6 seconds, it will turn itself off.
It was build this was so you wouldn't accidently turn the computer off.
> Try running an old DOS game under Win2K? Forget about it. Alt-TAB out of
it
> and you're done. If you're lucky, it'll reboot automatically. Otherwise,
yank
> that plug again.
What game, what version?
What are you doing running DOS games?
And why are you yanking the cord anyway?
> Fucking Windows 2000. None of the myriad of serious design flaws in the
> previous versions of Windows have been addressed, but at least in this
version
> I have animated menus, a fancier taskbar, a new recycle bin icon.
What are those serious design flaws?
> You know, Linux was a bit buggy at first...so was Solaris...but over time
they
> get more and more robust and stable and foolproof...but not Windows. It's
the
> same piece of bug-infested dogshit that it was from day one.
You've never used NT, I understand. Or 98/95, for that matter.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 02:43:42 -0500
Bruce Schuck wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Bruce Schuck wrote:
> > >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Bruce Schuck wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > No one could stop an OEM from selling a retail copy of Windows Me.
> But
> > > it
> > > > > would be a lot more expensive.
> > > >
> > > > Look, when the OS license cost more than the profit margin of a PC,
> > > > then DOUBLING the OS licence cost effectively forces the OEM to raise
> > > > prices.
> > >
> > > Yes. Discounts do allow companies to sell their products for less.
> > > Sometimes.
> > >
> > > Sometimes they just pocket the difference as profit.
> > >
> >
> > Regardless--PUNISHING a company for offering a competitor's product
> > is OBSTRUCTION OF TRADE and it is illegal.
>
> You don't get it. "Punishing" would be if they told Dell they had to pay
> more than retail for Windows Me and Office 2000 if they sold products
> Microsoft didn't want them to.
>
> "Rewarding" is where Dell gets Windows Me and Office 2000 real, real cheap
> for doing what Microsoft wants.
Since Microsoft doesn't require any other vendor to pay retail
price, then that's not a discount.
Hope that helps, MORON.
Sophistry by any other name is still a potato sack full of lies.
>
> Those are two very different scenarios. #1 doesn't happen. #2 does.
>
> >
> > Ask the Big 3 automakers in Detroit what happens if they try playing
> > such games with a dealership that dares to sell from multiple
> manufacturers.
>
> What percentage of dealers sell both Ford and GM and Chrysler? 0.0001?
>
> >
> >
> >
> > > >
> > > > FACE THE FUCKING FACTS: MS IS COMPLETELY FUCKING UNWILLING TO HAVE
> > > > STRAIGHT, SIDE-BY-SIDE COMPETITION IN THE MARKET PLACE.
> > >
> > > Anyone who wants to can pay retail. No one has to take those deep, deep
> > > discounts.
> >
> > That is not for the OEM to decide, as they are not the end-purchasers.
>
> The OEM gets an amazingly good deal from Microsoft for playing along.
>
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > OEM's wanted to sell their computers as cheap as they could and
> Microsft
> > > > > made them a deal that was hard to refuse ... but they could have at
> any
> > > time
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Wrong, wrong, wrong, asshole.
> > > >
> > > > When *EVERYBODY* gets the fucking discount...then that *IS* the normal
> > > > price...so that any OEM that doesn't get the "discount" (i.e. NORMAL)
> > > price,
> > > > is actually being PENALIZED for merely giving their customers a wider
> > > > selection of products.
> > >
> > > Not everyone gets the discount.
> > >
> > > > This is called OBSTRUCTION OF TRADE.
> > >
> > > No. It's called very tough business practices.
> >
> >
> > Really. IBM was put under a consent decree for similar practices.
>
> Yeah. But no one was making mainframes other than IBM.
>
> Microsoft does have competitors.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 02:45:16 -0500
Bruce Schuck wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> > > Try to order a GM car with a Ford motor or ... (substitute any
> combination
> > > of parts and companies).
> >
> > Considering that this is a near impossibility (without thousands of
> > dollars of work in the engine compartment to move engine mounts AND to
> > get everything to fit....your argument is nothing but red herring.
>
> >
> > Hint fucking hint: Ford motors were never designed to be mounted in
> > GM products (nor vice versa). Conversely, Linux and Solaris BOTH
> > have version for computers with Intel and/or AMD CPUs.
>
> But they don't have drivers for all the peripherals Dell/Compaq/Gatway sells
> inside and outside the cases.
Nor does Windows 2000 have all the drivers that Linux does.
And your point is?
Remember, Dell, Compaq and Gateway are COMPLAINANTS in the DOJ case
against Microsoft.
>
> Windows does.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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