Linux-Advocacy Digest #935, Volume #33 Thu, 26 Apr 01 10:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: Importance, or lack, of Marketshare? ("Mart van de Wege")
Re: Blame it all on Microsoft (Neil Cerutti)
Re: Women's rights and responsibilities. (Roberto Alsina)
NYC LOCAL: Thursday 26 April 2001 Columbia ACM Meeting: Bjarne Stroustrup on C++
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Women's rights and responsibilities. (Roberto Alsina)
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males (Roberto Alsina)
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males (Roberto Alsina)
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males (Roberto Alsina)
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males (Roberto Alsina)
Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) (Roberto Alsina)
Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) (Roberto Alsina)
Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) (Roberto Alsina)
Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) (Roberto Alsina)
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: "Mart van de Wege" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Importance, or lack, of Marketshare?
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 15:02:18 +0200
In article <9c91ar$u8f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Matthew Gardiner"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
> I know RMS wants to use the power of the herb to open his mind, and that
> everyone to live in peace in harmony, however, Linus unlike RMS
> understands the reality of the marketplace, hence the reason why he
> doesn't care whether there are proprietry packages for Linux, RMS is the
> only person who has a bee in his bonnet. I have never heard him (Linus)
> claim that proprietry code is "evil" or "un-moral".
>
> Matthew Gardiner
Well,
When it comes to kernel code, Linus can be (and quite rightly so) *very*
militant about proprietary code. Just check a few back issues of Kernel
Traffic* for his comments on binary-only device drivers. Yes, he did call
them 'evil' and 'braindead' and a few other choice phrases besides.
I agree with him, I had to install the nVidia drivers for my TNT chip,
and system stability went down the tubes (like total lockups during
power-save mode, thank god for Sysreq-k).
Compare this with HP, which publishes well-behaved source-only drivers
for their all-in-one PSC500 (which I have). This makes for a great
scanner, and even though only at 0.7, these drivers still have to bring
down my sytem.
Mart
*http://kt.zork.net/
--
Write in C, write in C,
Write in C, yeah, write in C.
Only wimps use BASIC, Write in C.
http://www.orca.bc.ca/spamalbum/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Neil Cerutti)
Crossposted-To: comp.theory,comp.arch,comp.object
Subject: Re: Blame it all on Microsoft
Date: 26 Apr 2001 13:04:13 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Edward Rosten posted:
>>> > Mr Stallman did not invent the concept, he just advocates something
>>> > patterned after the operating procedures used with the PDP-1 at MIT
>>> > about 1962 or so. Quite a bit before anything called "XMODEM" I
>>> > would say.
>>>
>>> As much as it pains me to defend Aaron Kulkis, he was talking about MIT
>>> in the 50s and 60s, he didn't even mention Richard Stallman. I
>>
>> Correct. EVEN Stallman is a LATECOMER in the Open Software movement.
>
>
>That's not true.
>
>Origionally, hardware was where the money came from. Software
>was this incedental thing you used. As a result, all software
>was open and everyone was happy. Stallman was around in this
>time, programming computers and being happy.
I have an old Time magazine from 1971. There's a two page add for
RCA Computers in there where they promise to port all your
software to the RCA platform for you if you buy their product!
Who could afford to do that today?
--
Neil Cerutti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
*** Your child was bitten by a bat lizard and the hospital bill
cost you $250. ***
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
Subject: Re: Women's rights and responsibilities.
Date: 26 Apr 2001 13:08:53 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 23:16:14 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>>
>> On 25 Apr 2001 20:09:05 GMT, Roberto Alsina wrote:
>> > On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 16:08:44 -0400, Sky King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>> > > > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > > > But many of the points still stand. Are women allowed to drive,
>> >>> > > or
>> >>> > > > > leave
>> >>> > > > > > > > > the house without a male relative ?
>> >>
>> >>The women choose to live there so its their social choice. sky
>> >
>> > Actually, no, they don't. They are not allowed to leave the country without
>> > autorization. Think about it, how do you leave the country without
>> > leaving the house?
>>
>> You're absoluteltly correct -- you need a male relative or spouse with you
>> if you travel abroad.
>
>
>Go find the "Foreign Students Association" at any large American University,
>and tell us how EVERY Saudi female is here with a male relative.
>
>Hint: You won't get caught in lies if you don't make them up.
They are not forced to keep the male escort after they leave.
You seem to have missed the obvious: to get out of the country, you need to
get on the street, to go to the airport. If you need authorization to get
to the airport, you need authorization to leave the country. QED.
--
Roberto Alsina
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: NYC LOCAL: Thursday 26 April 2001 Columbia ACM Meeting: Bjarne Stroustrup on
C++
Date: 26 Apr 2001 09:09:32 -0400
Bjarne Stroustrup, author of C++, will speak at 7:30 pm
in 501 Schermerhorn Hall of Columbia University in the City of New York.
This meeting of the Association for Computing Machinery, Columbia chapter,
is free and open to the public.
<blockquote>
ACM @ Columbia Univeristy welcomes all ACM members and interested persons:
Thursday, April 26th, 2001
JAVA BYTES
OK, maybe not, but there are certainly alternatives. Far and away the
most popular programming language in the world today is C++. Unlike many
modern inventions, C++ has one clear creator: Bjarne Stroustrup.
On April 26th, he's coming to speak at Columbia, thanks to Columbia's ACM
chapter with the support of the Department of Computer Science. This is a
rare chance to hear one of the major figures in both computer science and
the information economy speak about his creation.
The topic will be C++ itself, and thus should be of particular interest to
dedicated Java types, as C++ is the primary programming language of the
"real world." Used a Microsoft product lately, either operating system or
application? Written in C++. Played a computer game? Used any retail
software whatsoever? Ditto. Tens of billions of dollars worth of
software written in C++ are sold every year.
So anyway, come and listen to the guy who wrote the world's main
programming language talk about programming. The talk will be aimed at
intermediate-level computer science undergraduates. We promise that your
mind will be stretched.
Please go to our site: http://www.cs.columbia.edu/acm for directions to
the lecture hall at Columbia U. where the talk will be taking place.
Columbia U. itself is located at 116th and Broadway.
-- ACM @ Columbia U.
</blockquote>
Distributed poC TINC:
Jay Sulzberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Corresponding Secretary LXNY
LXNY is New York's Free Computing Organization.
http://www.lxny.org
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
Subject: Re: Women's rights and responsibilities.
Date: 26 Apr 2001 13:12:35 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 23:22:26 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>The Scene:
>A delivery room, where some bed-hopping slut has just borne the
>demon spawn of her most recent DangerAsshole...
>
>
>Doctor: ...and for the Birth Certicate,...who is the father?
>
>BHS: (thiking to herself....I can't name the real one....not
>only is he a chronic loser, but he's just been sent to the state
>penitentiary for the next 15 years)....wha?
>
>Doctor: Miss....who is the father?
>
>BHS: Donovan Rebbechi.
>
>
>
>Congratulations, Donovan...you're the proud father of some some kid
>who's mother you've never even seen before....but she's heard your
>name somewhere before, and knows you have more money than her
>lifelong-criminal DangerAsshole.
Have you ever heard of DNA testing?
--
Roberto Alsina
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: 26 Apr 2001 13:14:46 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 23:13:17 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 11:51:36 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>> > "You've got MALE.. sex organs!" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I understand the wimmen really go for those unix programmer geeks
>> >> nowadays. But just for SEX, they want to screw the little geeky brains
>> >> out - certainly not for dating!
>> >>
>> >> They particularly like that gynophobic disposition, developed over a
>> >> lifetime of not getting laid, or even a smell.
>> >>
>> >> Right, you pathetic little right wing turd unix programmer geek?
>> >>
>> >
>> > I'm also
>> > A soldier
>> > and an artist.
>> >
>> > Of course, most foreign women appreciate intelligence more than their
>> > American counterparts...so... they get the rewards.
>>
>> If your personality resembles your uesnet persona in any way, I see why
>> you would scare a lot of women away.
>
>Different persona for different circumstances.
I knew you were paranoid. I didn't knew you were a schizo, too.
Maybe that explains all the double-posting.
--
Roberto Alsina
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: 26 Apr 2001 13:18:08 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 23:04:51 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Roberto Alsina wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:34:44 GMT, chrisv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina) wrote:
>> >
>> >>>It can be dangrous for women to walk alone.
>> >
>> >>So, women should be forbidden from doing anything that's dangerous?
>> >
>> >What a jerk. Are you just a troll now? We know you're not that
>> >stupid...
>>
>> In the part you snipped, I introduced the stuff about women and walking
>> alone by saying "Aaron believes women are better off when they are NOT
>> ALLOWED to walk alone".
>>
>> >No reasonable person can leap from "women should have the CHOICE of
>> >carrying a gun for personal protection" to "women should be forbidden
>> >from doing anything that's dangerous".
>>
>> Actually, it goes exactly the other way around. Aaron is pro forbidding
>> women the right to walk alone, because they would be in danger.
>
>I never ADVOCATED such a thing.
You said women are better off in Saudi Arabia, where they are forbidden
from leaving the house unaccompanied.
> I merely noted that the women who
>live in one of the societies where that is the custom, have a much
>*BETTER* life than what Feminism has given American women.
Well, make up your mind: do you advocate what you believe is worse,
or you advocate they should not leave the house alone?
--
Roberto Alsina
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: 26 Apr 2001 13:19:31 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 23:45:09 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Roberto Alsina wrote:
>>
>> Chad Everett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >On 25 Apr 2001 18:42:14 GMT, Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:34:44 GMT, chrisv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina) wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>>It can be dangrous for women to walk alone.
>> >>>
>> >>>>So, women should be forbidden from doing anything that's dangerous?
>> >>>
>> >>>What a jerk. Are you just a troll now? We know you're not that
>> >>>stupid...
>> >>
>> >>In the part you snipped, I introduced the stuff about women and walking
>> >>alone by saying "Aaron believes women are better off when they are NOT
>> >>ALLOWED to walk alone".
>> >>
>> >
>> >And you believe that women should NOT BE ALLOWED the tools to protect
>> >themselves while they walk alone.
>>
>> If you advocate they should not walk alone, that doesn't make
>> any difference does it? And anyway, I did not. Check the archives.
>>
>> >>>No reasonable person can leap from "women should have the CHOICE of
>> >>>carrying a gun for personal protection" to "women should be forbidden
>> >>>from doing anything that's dangerous".
>> >>
>> >>Actually, it goes exactly the other way around. Aaron is pro forbidding
>> >>women the right to walk alone, because they would be in danger.
>> >>I am pro giving them that right. You just misunderstood the whole thing.
>> >
>> >But we do understand thay you would like to deny women the right to
>> >protect themselves.
>>
>> You misunderstand. Everyone should be entitled to protect themselves.
>> Women, men, transvestites and tax collectors alike. In fact, they ARE
>> entitled to protect themselves. All that straw is gonna cause you
>> hay fever.
>
>Nice back-pedal into agreeing with what WE have been saying all along.
You have all along been saying women are better off when they can not leave
their houses without male permission.
You seem to have taken my reasonable statements and created an imaginary
red strawman that made you as mad as a raging chihuahua.
--
Roberto Alsina
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: 26 Apr 2001 13:20:29 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 23:44:13 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Roberto Alsina wrote:
>>
>> Chad Everett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >On 25 Apr 2001 18:37:57 GMT, Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>It does help exposing you for the obvious nutcase you are. Not to
>> >>mention you are also an incompetent liar.
>> >>
>> >
>> >Boy Roberto, you fit all of those to a tee. You're the ultimate nutcase
>> >and an extremely incompetent liar.
>>
>> Well, actually I am a very good liar, I just prefer not to use that
>> skill.
>
>You're lying right now...and very POORLY, I might add.
As I said, I try not to lie too well.
--
Roberto Alsina
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: 26 Apr 2001 13:21:45 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
billh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>"Roberto Alsina"
>
>> > Your cite for such?
>>
>> No cite, but a little logic. Why would god give a commandment that could
>> not be understood?
>
>You seem to be the only one that doesn't understand it.
Are you catching up with two-week old messages?
--
Roberto Alsina
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: 26 Apr 2001 13:22:24 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
billh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>"Roberto Alsina
>
>> >Yet the question remains unanswered.
>>
>> Yup.
>>
>> > Just what is this "global society" you say exists?
>>
>> Why should I answer that?
>
>Good bye. Plonk.
Well, you didn't answer that, either.
--
Roberto Alsina
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: 26 Apr 2001 13:23:50 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 23:42:35 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Roberto Alsina wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 02:24:23 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Roberto Alsina wrote:
>> >>
>> >> billh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >"Roberto Alsina"
>> >> >
>> >> >> After immigrating I could become a citizen. Yet you said I "will
>> >> >> never become a juror". That is not something you can possibly know,
>> >> >
>> >> >Tell us all when you do become a juror within any jurisdiction in the USA.
>> >>
>> >> Let me guess... I immigrate, I naturalize, then I get called, eventually,
>> >> and not disqualify myself, then I am not disqualified during jury selection.
>> >>
>> >
>> >how much did you bribe the INS people to naturalizes you, you ignorant twit.
>>
>> Who told you I naturalized?
>
>
>So, you admit that you have never passed the naturalization test,
>which requires you to demonstrate that you understand the Constition
>(which includes the 2nd Amendment)
What's a constition? Anyway, I am not bound by your constitution,
knowing it is not important.
I have not passed the naturalization test because I have no need
for it, Aaron, I am a citizen of where I live.
--
Roberto Alsina
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: 26 Apr 2001 13:26:17 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 21:39:26 -0700, GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Roberto Alsina wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 11:02:54 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Roberto Alsina wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:43:31 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >Matthew Gardiner wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Roberto Alsina wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 13:02:24 GMT, chrisv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> > >"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >>My house has over half a dozen guns, and ammunition for each,
>> >> >> > >>and I haven't been convinced that I have any "right to kill"
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >Says the outed idiot who advocates killing people who lawfully work
>> >> >> > >toward different social and political goals than he does.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Not to mention he is the same guy who believes women are better off
>> >> >> > in Saudi Arabia, and that ping calls nslookup.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > He is really a sort of renaissance idiot. Idiot in many fields at the
>> >> >> > same time. A man who can be idiotic on any subject. A rainbow of
>> >> >> > idiocy.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Roberto Alsina
>> >> >>
>> >> >> And you forgot the communist conspiracy theory.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >Come visit the united states sometime. The communism is right out in the open.
>> >>
>> >> Well, seen from here, it's hard to tell a democrat from a republican.
>> >> The US is so right-wing, what you call communists in most places are
>> >
>> >Here's a hint, Roberto.
>> >
>> >Right-wing vs. Left-wing is a false dichotomy. They are BOTH
>> >forms of totalitarian socialism.
>>
>> Are you confessing to be a communist? After all, you advocate
>> execution without trial of burglars. That's a pretty right-wingish
>> thing to advocate.
>
>Haven't you ever heard of the "Kill a Burglar Law" of Louisiana??
Nope. However, most those laws that are in effect in the US are
considered rightist stuff, compared with the penal laws in
effect in pretty much every other western democracy.
--
Roberto Alsina
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 09:37:22 -0400
Roberto Alsina wrote:
>
> On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 23:04:51 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Roberto Alsina wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:34:44 GMT, chrisv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina) wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>>It can be dangrous for women to walk alone.
> >> >
> >> >>So, women should be forbidden from doing anything that's dangerous?
> >> >
> >> >What a jerk. Are you just a troll now? We know you're not that
> >> >stupid...
> >>
> >> In the part you snipped, I introduced the stuff about women and walking
> >> alone by saying "Aaron believes women are better off when they are NOT
> >> ALLOWED to walk alone".
> >>
> >> >No reasonable person can leap from "women should have the CHOICE of
> >> >carrying a gun for personal protection" to "women should be forbidden
> >> >from doing anything that's dangerous".
> >>
> >> Actually, it goes exactly the other way around. Aaron is pro forbidding
> >> women the right to walk alone, because they would be in danger.
> >
> >I never ADVOCATED such a thing.
>
> You said women are better off in Saudi Arabia, where they are forbidden
> from leaving the house unaccompanied.
>From a quality of life standpoint, they are MUCH better off.
I did not say that it was better in every single respect, I said
that AS A WHOLE, they have a better life.
>
> > I merely noted that the women who
> >live in one of the societies where that is the custom, have a much
> >*BETTER* life than what Feminism has given American women.
>
> Well, make up your mind: do you advocate what you believe is worse,
> or you advocate they should not leave the house alone?
your mental masturbation is unbecoming.
>
> --
> Roberto Alsina
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 09:40:06 -0400
Roberto Alsina wrote:
>
> On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 23:45:09 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Roberto Alsina wrote:
> >>
> >> Chad Everett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >On 25 Apr 2001 18:42:14 GMT, Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >>On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:34:44 GMT, chrisv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina) wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>It can be dangrous for women to walk alone.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>So, women should be forbidden from doing anything that's dangerous?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>What a jerk. Are you just a troll now? We know you're not that
> >> >>>stupid...
> >> >>
> >> >>In the part you snipped, I introduced the stuff about women and walking
> >> >>alone by saying "Aaron believes women are better off when they are NOT
> >> >>ALLOWED to walk alone".
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >And you believe that women should NOT BE ALLOWED the tools to protect
> >> >themselves while they walk alone.
> >>
> >> If you advocate they should not walk alone, that doesn't make
> >> any difference does it? And anyway, I did not. Check the archives.
> >>
> >> >>>No reasonable person can leap from "women should have the CHOICE of
> >> >>>carrying a gun for personal protection" to "women should be forbidden
> >> >>>from doing anything that's dangerous".
> >> >>
> >> >>Actually, it goes exactly the other way around. Aaron is pro forbidding
> >> >>women the right to walk alone, because they would be in danger.
> >> >>I am pro giving them that right. You just misunderstood the whole thing.
> >> >
> >> >But we do understand thay you would like to deny women the right to
> >> >protect themselves.
> >>
> >> You misunderstand. Everyone should be entitled to protect themselves.
> >> Women, men, transvestites and tax collectors alike. In fact, they ARE
> >> entitled to protect themselves. All that straw is gonna cause you
> >> hay fever.
> >
> >Nice back-pedal into agreeing with what WE have been saying all along.
>
> You have all along been saying women are better off when they can not leave
> their houses without male permission.
No. You're agreeing that people should be allowed to have the necessary
means (i.e. guns) to defend themselves.
GAME
SET
MATCH
MORON.
>
> You seem to have taken my reasonable statements and created an imaginary
> red strawman that made you as mad as a raging chihuahua.
>
> --
> Roberto Alsina
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
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K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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