Linux-Advocacy Digest #107, Volume #30 Tue, 7 Nov 00 18:13:06 EST
Contents:
Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever (Giuliano Colla)
Confessions of a Linux Hypocrite ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Chad Meyers: Blatent liar (sfcybear)
Re: Lets try serious advocacy/discussion. (Michael Marion)
Re: Chad Meyers: Blatent liar (sfcybear)
Confessions of a Linux Hypocrite ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Confessions of a Linux Hypocrite (Mig)
Re: The Sixth Sense (Giuliano Colla)
Re: RedHat BugList Summary (Craig Kelley)
Re: so REALLY, what's the matter with Microsoft? (Craig Kelley)
Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever (.)
Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: On a win 2000 system. remove RH7 as follows (.)
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ("Sam Morris")
Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever (Giuliano Colla)
Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: Linux 2.4 mired in delays as Compaq warns of lack of momentum (.)
Re: The Sixth Sense (Giuliano Colla)
Re: On a win 2000 system. remove RH7 as follows ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: Chad Meyers: Blatent liar ("Ayende Rahien")
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From: Giuliano Colla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.linux.sucks
Subject: Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 21:10:22 GMT
Matthias Warkus wrote:
>
> It was the Sun, 5 Nov 2000 17:26:03 +0200...
> ...and Ayende Rahien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > But I've used Word to edit source code, it does the work.
> > >
> > > True: you can save as plain text, but it's like using a hammer to put in
> > > a screw: it will work, but it's a bit of a pain.
> >
> > Try localizing a program, it's a PAIN to do it with anything but word.
>
> Why should localising a program require editing of the source code? A
> properly internationalised program can be localised by editing the
> message catalogue with specialised software.
I'm afraid there's a misunderstanding here. You're speaking of the
proper way to localize a program, while Ayende is speaking of the "only
MS" way of doing it.
Usually those two things conflict. If they didn't this NG wouldn't
exist.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Confessions of a Linux Hypocrite
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 21:14:24 GMT
The most recent "California Computer News" has an entertaining
editorial about merits of Linux vs. Windows -- "Confessions of a Linu8x
Hypocrite."
http://www.ccnmag.com/Nov00/editorsdesk.htm
Nerdjohn
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From: sfcybear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Chad Meyers: Blatent liar
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 21:11:13 GMT
In article <yxNN5.123795$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Bruce Schuck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "sfcybear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8u8411$mvk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In article <BZLN5.123778$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > "Bruce Schuck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:0uLN5.13437$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > >
> > > > "Bruce Schuck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > news:PQKN5.123765$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > >
> > > > > How does anybody get any work done with Linux? Do you have any
> > time left
> > > > > after downloading all the security fixes, compiling them and
> > installing
> > > > > them?
> > > >
> > > > First, since the linux distributions include so many programs,
it
> > often
> > > > turns out that you aren't running the one in question anyway.
> > >
> > > It seems to me, most have to do with standard services.
> > >
> > > >You'd
> > > > have to buy a whole store full of add-on products for the
equivalent
> > > > under Windows.
> > >
> > > But most of those wouldn't be so insecure to allow root access.
> > >
> > > > Then for the cases where you do have to update,
> > > > the distributors all have packaged updates that install with a
> > single
> > > > command,
> > >
> > > Most of the ones I've seen need multiple package installations
like
> > this
> > > one:
> > >
> > > http://www.suse.com/de/support/security/adv5_draht_glibc_txt.txt
> > >
> > > SPECIAL INSTALL INSTRUCTIONS:
> > > Note that the complete update consists of three (3) binary rpm
> > > packages and one source rpm package per distribution and
platform.
> > > libc-*.rpm contains the static libraries, libd is the package
for
> > > the profiling+debugging version of the libraries.
> > >
> > > If at all possible, keep your machine calm while you perform
the
> > > update.
> > >
> > > Keep your machine calm?
> > >
> > > > and (unlike anything from MS) if it isn't the kernel you
> > > > don't even have to reboot.
> > >
> > > But you do have to keep your machine calm. :)
> > >
> > > > Most of the distributions include a tool
> > > > to automatically pick up the updates for you.
> > >
> > > But there are so many that allow root access. How do you keep up?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > > but those poor Windows users have no idea what horors MS is
> > hiding
> > > from
> > > > > > them because MS does not publish it's bug list!
> > > > >
> > > > > It's called the knowledge base. It has all the issues. It's
> > searchable.
> > > >
> > > > How often has MS published something there before someone else
> > > > made it public?
> > >
> > > They try and post the fix when they publish the problem.
> > >
> >
> >
> > Come on bruce, let's compare... Were is MS's bug reports????
>
> It's called the knowledge base. Free to peruse anytime. Searchable.
>
> >Hmmmm? what
> > are they hiding???
>
> Nothing.
Prove it!
>
> >Why won't you answer that?
>
> I did.
>
> >You can only look at an
> > OPEN list and bash it, but the real danger are the exploits that you
or
> > I have no idea about.
>
> Thats what the OpenBSD people say. They they are 6 months ahead of
Linx in
> fixing bugs.
>
> I assume that means Linux bugs don't get fixed or noticed for 6
months.
>
> > That is why MS's Closed bug list is so dangerous.
>
> What closed bug list?
>
> What about the Linux buglist that is 6 months behind the OpenBSD one?
>
> > What exploits are left unfixed by MS because some exec wants to cut
> > costs so he just hides it???
>
> What bugs?
>
> > What is so bad about MS's list that they
> > have to hide it?
>
> What hidden list?
>
> Oh yeah. The big penguinista lie. Is that in the top 10 of Penguinista
lies
> about Microsoft?
The great Wintroll lie: MS is as pure as the driven snow and only has
it's customers best interests in mind!
>
>
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From: Michael Marion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lets try serious advocacy/discussion.
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 21:20:50 GMT
Jake Taense wrote:
> Yes - but tell me - who will buy the software? What good is a clear market
> when the consumers expect the products to be free?
Wrong. People don't expect all products for Linux to be free, but they do
expect access to the source code.
If companies were to come out with products for linux that cost money, people
would buy it.. I've got games and if more came out for Linux so that I could
play them using it instead of windows, I know I'd buy them. The same goes for
a DVD decoder card that outputs digital sound (sigma is working on one, but I
see a lot of gripes about the drivers so far).
--
Mike Marion-Unix SysAdmin/Senior Engineer-Qualcomm-http://www.miguelito.org
answering machine message : "hi. e-mail me."
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From: sfcybear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Chad Meyers: Blatent liar
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 21:19:57 GMT
In article <g4UN5.51$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "Bruce Schuck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:yxNN5.123795$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > "sfcybear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:8u8411$mvk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > In article <BZLN5.123778$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > "Bruce Schuck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > news:0uLN5.13437$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Bruce Schuck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > news:PQKN5.123765$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How does anybody get any work done with Linux? Do you have
any
> > > time left
> > > > > > after downloading all the security fixes, compiling them and
> > > installing
> > > > > > them?
> > > > >
> > > > > First, since the linux distributions include so many programs,
it
> > > often
> > > > > turns out that you aren't running the one in question anyway.
> > > >
> > > > It seems to me, most have to do with standard services.
> > > >
> > > > >You'd
> > > > > have to buy a whole store full of add-on products for the
equivalent
> > > > > under Windows.
> > > >
> > > > But most of those wouldn't be so insecure to allow root access.
> > > >
> > > > > Then for the cases where you do have to update,
> > > > > the distributors all have packaged updates that install with a
> > > single
> > > > > command,
> > > >
> > > > Most of the ones I've seen need multiple package installations
like
> > > this
> > > > one:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.suse.com/de/support/security/adv5_draht_glibc_txt.txt
> > > >
> > > > SPECIAL INSTALL INSTRUCTIONS:
> > > > Note that the complete update consists of three (3) binary
rpm
> > > > packages and one source rpm package per distribution and
platform.
> > > > libc-*.rpm contains the static libraries, libd is the
package for
> > > > the profiling+debugging version of the libraries.
> > > >
> > > > If at all possible, keep your machine calm while you perform
the
> > > > update.
> > > >
> > > > Keep your machine calm?
> > > >
> > > > > and (unlike anything from MS) if it isn't the kernel you
> > > > > don't even have to reboot.
> > > >
> > > > But you do have to keep your machine calm. :)
> > > >
> > > > > Most of the distributions include a tool
> > > > > to automatically pick up the updates for you.
> > > >
> > > > But there are so many that allow root access. How do you keep
up?
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > but those poor Windows users have no idea what horors MS
is
> > > hiding
> > > > from
> > > > > > > them because MS does not publish it's bug list!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's called the knowledge base. It has all the issues. It's
> > > searchable.
> > > > >
> > > > > How often has MS published something there before someone else
> > > > > made it public?
> > > >
> > > > They try and post the fix when they publish the problem.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Come on bruce, let's compare... Were is MS's bug reports????
> >
> > It's called the knowledge base. Free to peruse anytime. Searchable.
>
> Actually, it's easier to see a list of security bugs seperated
> from other technical articles, bugs, tech suggestions, checklists, etc
> by going to www.microsoft.com/security and then clicking on Bulletins
>
> -Chad
The ones that MS is willing to tell you about. I suggest you go listen
when the people at Samba speak! They will tell you some MS security
stories that will have even you leaving MS.
But Still the start of this thread was about Trojans in Linux and the
best "proof" of that has been some one that thinks bugs are Togans! No
real tojans todate. Just another unsupported Chadism
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Confessions of a Linux Hypocrite
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 21:15:14 GMT
The most recent "California Computer News" has an entertaining
editorial about merits of Linux vs. Windows -- "Confessions of a Linu8x
Hypocrite."
http://www.ccnmag.com/Nov00/editorsdesk.htm
Nerdjohn
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From: Mig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Confessions of a Linux Hypocrite
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 22:38:15 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The most recent "California Computer News" has an entertaining
> editorial about merits of Linux vs. Windows -- "Confessions of a Linu8x
> Hypocrite."
>
> http://www.ccnmag.com/Nov00/editorsdesk.htm
>
> Nerdjohn
Interesting viewpoint. I use W2K at work and previously NT. The only reason
for doing this is that i need access to a exchange server and the
functionality it provides. Im very dissatisfied with W2K as i previous was
with NT. For these two to be the top products of the largest software
company its pretty pathetic. There are huge numbers of bugs and
inconsistencies.
At home i use strictly Linux with KDE because it just feels so much better.
Everything i need is there and even the things i dont need.. its a pleasure
to use Linux + KDE and not having ever to install Windows again on my home
machine.
Oh.. i almost forgot.. i earn my money doing Windows related support.
--
Cheers
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From: Giuliano Colla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: The Sixth Sense
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 21:47:51 GMT
Toon Afish wrote:
>
> Based on what I read here, it beats the hell out of me. But how does your
> salary relate to your original comment? Is there some connection?
>
> FWIW, I don't pay my Eunuchs admins any more than my MS admins. Same job,
> same BS, same pay. A competent network admin will get the job done
> regardless of whether it's UNIX or Windows.
The point is that a Unix expert will solve you a problem in a fraction
of the time required by an equally competent Windows expert to do a
sloppy job. Therefore his market value (as measured in terms of the
service he can providing a given time) is much higher than that of a
Windows expert.
A competent manager will not put his informative system in mercy of
Windows unless he's ready to leave the company and wants to laugh at his
replacement.
A competent manager knows that a job which can be done neatly and
quickly with a good OS, may take forever with a bad OS, which has no
provision for what you require.
A competent manager knows that cost is not given by salary, but salary
*times* the time required to do do the job.
A manager telling "I don't care whether it's Windows or Unix, get it
done!" is just a pompous ass.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: RedHat BugList Summary
From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 07 Nov 2000 14:50:00 -0700
"Bruce Schuck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Bug Report for -All-
>
> Tue Nov 7 13:21:34 2000
>
> Summary
>
> New Bugs This Week 183
> Bugs Marked New 1588
> Bugs Marked Assigned 1285
> Bugs Marked Reopened 123
> Total Bugs 2996
>
>
> Whoooooo!
Compared to the 64,000 bugs in Windows 2000?
If you're going to pronounce the meaningless, let's be fair...
--
The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: so REALLY, what's the matter with Microsoft?
From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 07 Nov 2000 14:55:16 -0700
"Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "Craig Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > So, apart form your own biases, what reasons do you have to believe
> > > the portability of NT, which was sustained until NT4, service pack
> > > 2, have changed for Win2k, given that Win2k had an ALpha port until
> > > about Beta 3 ?
> >
> > I don't know about Mark, but how about the glaringly obvious: NT 2000
> > is only available for one architecture.
>
> Actually, as of yesterday, it's available for two architectures. Microsoft
> made the Itanium version of Whistler available for public beta.
>
> As anyone familiar with Itanium knows, it's a totally different architecture
> from traditional x86.
We'll see how quickly they drop it. :)
(*I* certainly wouldn't buy a non-ia32 machine to run Windows NT on,
considering Microsoft's past record of support for non-ia32
architectures)
--
The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: . <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.linux.sucks
Subject: Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 11:09:16 +1300
> > Nope, you can definitely force 9x to complain and not get to the desktop
> > if you dont validate via the network. Pressing cancel just brings up an
> > error message and you go straight back to the login box. It's not the
> > default config, of course.
>
> I'm not talking about pressing cancel.
> I'm talking about pressing the windows key (ctrl+esc) would give you the
> desktop. (And Run, which is giving you the control of the system)
Funnily enough, I've never seen the desktop by pressing ctrl-esc (except
once already logged in ;), but I have pressed ctrl-esc and brought up a
weird and wonderful version of the task manager, which allowed me to
start a new explorer task... hey presto!
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From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.linux.sucks
Subject: Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 00:15:18 +0200
"Giuliano Colla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Matthias Warkus wrote:
> >
> > It was the Sun, 5 Nov 2000 17:26:03 +0200...
> > ...and Ayende Rahien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > But I've used Word to edit source code, it does the work.
> > > >
> > > > True: you can save as plain text, but it's like using a hammer to
put in
> > > > a screw: it will work, but it's a bit of a pain.
> > >
> > > Try localizing a program, it's a PAIN to do it with anything but word.
> >
> > Why should localising a program require editing of the source code? A
> > properly internationalised program can be localised by editing the
> > message catalogue with specialised software.
>
> I'm afraid there's a misunderstanding here. You're speaking of the
> proper way to localize a program, while Ayende is speaking of the "only
> MS" way of doing it.
> Usually those two things conflict. If they didn't this NG wouldn't
> exist.
Ayende is speaking here on a very common problem that appears to be wide
speard among programmers (never worked on localizing MS products, can't say
anything about it)
Hard coding the contect of messagebox/menus/icons/titles/tooltips/whatever
into the application.
It's a nightmare to localize such a thing, and the best tool for this job
that I've used is Word.
Regardless of that, Word is the best word proccessor for multiply languages
that I've used. Including the non-latin ones that break havoc when you try
to write in them in usual applications.
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From: . <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.linux.sucks
Subject: Re: On a win 2000 system. remove RH7 as follows
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 11:20:57 +1300
> > Highlight each one and delete. Win 200 Pro even wipes out the Swap space.
>
> Fdisk doesn't do this. Any suggestion how to wipe the swap space via dos
> without buying partiton magic?
C:\>debug
-a 9000:0
9000:0000 mov ax,0201
9000:0003 mov cx,1
9000:0006 mov dx,80
9000:0009 mov bx,9000
9000:000C mov es,bx
9000:000E int 13
9000:0010 int 3
9000:0011
-g=9000:0
AX=0050 BX=9000 CX=0001 DX=0080 SP=FFEE BP=0000 SI=0000 DI=0000
DS=1D6F ES=9000 SS=1D6F CS=9000 IP=0010 NV UP EI PL NZ NA PO NC
9000:0010 CC INT 3
This loads the MBR off the primary hard drive
-d 9000:9000 (displays some shit)
-d (more shit)
-d (more shit)
-d (Bingo! This gives us:
9000:9180 00 00 00 8B FC 1E 57 8B-F5 CB 00 00 00 00 00 00
9000:9190 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00-00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
9000:91A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00-00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
9000:91B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00-7E B3 7E B3 00 00[80 01
9000:91C0 01 00 0B FE BF 0A 3F 00-00 00 0C 34 80 00]00 00
9000:91D0 81 0B 0F FE FF FF 4B 34-80 00 4B 34 80 00 00 FE
9000:91E0 FF FF 82 FE FF FF 96 68-00 01 D1 2A 04 00 00 FE
9000:91F0 FF FF 83 FE FF FF 67 93-04 01 D6 96 92 00 55 AA
Your partition table starts at 91BE (the 80) and there are four entries.
I've marked the first entry with square brackets. If your swap partition
is one of your primary partitions (say #3) just zero out all the values.
Part #1 - 91BE -> 91CD
Part #2 - 91CE -> 91DD
Part #3 - 91DE -> 91ED
Part #4 - 91EE -> 91FD
-f 9000:start end 00
this zeros out the partition you don't want (fill in the right values)
-a 9000:0
9000:0000 mov ax,0301
9000:0003
-g=9000:0
this writes the MBR back to the disk.
If your swap partition is a logical partition and not a primary, then
this is no help at all =)
See? Easy! =)
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From: "Sam Morris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 22:28:03 -0000
The Open With submenu appears without the shift key. It would be pretty
awful if you needed to press it. I believe that Win98/NT4/earlier required
the use of the shift key though (eeeww) :)
--
Cheers,
Sam
_o/
>\
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From: Giuliano Colla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.linux.sucks
Subject: Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 22:31:48 GMT
"." wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> > Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> > >
> > > Actually, no.. it wouldn't. Windows 98 introduced the registry backup
> > > system. If the registry is corrupted or missing, it will restore a backup
> > > automatically.
> >
> > Yeah, and Win98 had that "automatic optimization" feature that was supposed
> > to eventually move all of your oft-used apps to the faster part of the
> > hard drive. You don't hear much about that feature, do you? Never
> > helped.
>
> Umm, at least one version of 95 supported the default registry backup....
> system.da0 and user.da0...
> I remember falling back on it once in 96 due to a retard double-clicking
> his entire-registry export file to 'see what was in it'.
You had a better experience with Win 95 than mine. I had a comic
accident with my lap-top at customer's site, just giving the final touch
to an embedded application, where laptop was used as a development tool
for a target system without development capabilities.
I dropped a hot chocolate cup on the keyboard, and some chocolate
spilled on the motherboard below. I performed shutdown, which was
carried on with some hiccups, waited for chocolate to dry up and tried
to restart the system.
Well system restarted, went through all windows loading up to a point
when it would say sort of "damaged registry, using backup copy", then a
lot of HD grinding, system rebooting, loading windows, telling "damaged
registry, using backup" and so on forever.
I am a cautious guy, so I had both a recovery diskette and a backup copy
of registry on drive D:, just in case.
But before repairing, I tried to investigate what had happened, and I
discovered the idiotic way registry backup is handled during boot.
ScanDisk told me that there was a bad sector not in registry files but
in the one of the Backup files (User.da0, or system.da0, I don't
remember). Looking at files date stamp, it was easy to tell what had
happened. First boot had been performed properly, up to the point when
registry was to be backed up. At that point a disk error happened. The
boot was declared to fail because of registry problem, and the idiotic
system would overwrite a perfectly good registry with a damaged back-up,
and then restart. I renamed the damaged da0 file to something else,
copied the saved registry, and the system was running. But when someone
speaks about MS quality I become loquacious!
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From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.linux.sucks
Subject: Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 00:31:10 +0200
"." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Nope, you can definitely force 9x to complain and not get to the
desktop
> > > if you dont validate via the network. Pressing cancel just brings up
an
> > > error message and you go straight back to the login box. It's not the
> > > default config, of course.
> >
> > I'm not talking about pressing cancel.
> > I'm talking about pressing the windows key (ctrl+esc) would give you the
> > desktop. (And Run, which is giving you the control of the system)
>
> Funnily enough, I've never seen the desktop by pressing ctrl-esc (except
> once already logged in ;), but I have pressed ctrl-esc and brought up a
> weird and wonderful version of the task manager, which allowed me to
> start a new explorer task... hey presto!
Well, I usually go to Run, and type c:, which would bring me explorer, and
usually the desktop.
Anyhow, this is a huge security breach, equal to gain local root in linux.
I never did find out whatever there was a fix for that.s
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux 2.4 mired in delays as Compaq warns of lack of momentum
Date: 7 Nov 2000 22:33:10 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Ayende Rahien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8u9aoj$hu9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > Is ReiserFS released yet?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> > Has it been thoroughly tested?
>>
>> No.
>>
>> > IIRC, it's still an outsider and hasn't
>> > been fully included in the major distributions (although SuSE has it? I
>> > remember hearing one of them did now).
>>
>> SuSe, Redhat, Mandrake. Your information is old.
>>
>> > Has it been thoroughly tested in an enterprise environment or a
>> > high-traffic database environment (where +2GB files would be most
> important)?
>>
>> Yes. It works just fine for both google and deja's back-ends.
> Couldn't resist, sorry.
> Deja's archives are still off somewhere, anything that has to do with
> ReiserFS?
No. If it was merely a filesystem problem, the fix would have been weeks,
not months. The problem is much more complex, and has partially to do with
article numbering and integration.
=====.
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From: Giuliano Colla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: The Sixth Sense
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 22:36:08 GMT
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
> "." wrote:
> >
> > A Microsoft study released today shows NT increases employment
> > exponentially as computers increase in numbers.
> > "Obviously this was our intent. We deliberately made the system a pain
> > in the ass so that more and more people would be recruited into IT jobs
> > to deal with the horrible OS no-one with qualifications wanted to touch.
> > To ensure that the NT users appear to know what they're doing, we have
> > also developed a range of multi-choice exams."
> >
> > "Here at Microsoft, we take the economy very seriously, because the more
> > clueless punters are backing our OS, the more copies we sell."
> >
> > [No offense intended to people who actually WORKED to get their MCSE]
>
> It is intriguing that generating problems generates work, and is thus
> good for the economy. This means woe, gentlemen!
This goes on only as long as a child doesn't turn up and says:
The King is naked!
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From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.linux.sucks
Subject: Re: On a win 2000 system. remove RH7 as follows
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 00:37:09 +0200
"." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Highlight each one and delete. Win 200 Pro even wipes out the Swap
space.
> >
> > Fdisk doesn't do this. Any suggestion how to wipe the swap space via dos
> > without buying partiton magic?
<Snip commands>
> If your swap partition is a logical partition and not a primary, then
> this is no help at all =)
>
> See? Easy! =)
LOL
It's a logical partitions, without logical drivers, so Fdisk refuse to
delete it because it thinks it has logical drivers, but it hasn't, so it's a
very un-nice circular logic here.
I ended up putting a linux setup cd-rom and editing the partition table from
there.
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From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Chad Meyers: Blatent liar
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 00:38:39 +0200
"sfcybear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8u9rlk$4rm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> The ones that MS is willing to tell you about. I suggest you go listen
> when the people at Samba speak! They will tell you some MS security
> stories that will have even you leaving MS.
Why don't you qoute some?
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