Linux-Advocacy Digest #142, Volume #30 Thu, 9 Nov 00 15:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: The Sixth Sense ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: A Microsoft exodus! (Roberto Selbach Teixeira)
Re: The Sixth Sense ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: The Sixth Sense ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: OS stability ("Javaduke")
Re: The Sixth Sense ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: The Sixth Sense ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux Is Lame. Sorry but it is true (A transfinite number of monkeys)
Re: All hail the Konqueror development team (Jake Taense)
Re: OS stability (.)
Re: OS stability (.)
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Aaron R. Kulkis - Who is this guy? (Jake Taense)
Re: Linux vs Microsoft Misconceptions: ("Clifford W. Racz")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: The Sixth Sense
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 14:25:23 -0500
Toon Afish wrote:
>
> "Giuliano Colla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > The point is that a Unix expert will solve you a problem in a fraction
> > of the time required by an equally competent Windows expert to do a
> > sloppy job. Therefore his market value (as measured in terms of the
> > service he can providing a given time) is much higher than that of a
> > Windows expert.
>
> I'd love to see the data to support this.
Why? You've already demonstrated that facts and reality have
no bearing on what you say and think.
>
> >
> > A competent manager will not put his informative system in mercy of
> > Windows unless he's ready to leave the company and wants to laugh at his
> > replacement.
>
> I guess that's why Staples and E-Bay use Windows, as well as Compaq and
> Dell. They have no use in reliable machines for their web business, do they?
>
> > A competent manager knows that a job which can be done neatly and
> > quickly with a good OS, may take forever with a bad OS, which has no
> > provision for what you require.
>
> Here again, you assume that Windows is a "bad OS." It isn't. Naturally, you
> can prove this claim, can't you?
>
> > A competent manager knows that cost is not given by salary, but salary
> > *times* the time required to do do the job.
> > A manager telling "I don't care whether it's Windows or Unix, get it
> > done!" is just a pompous ass.
>
> Thank god I've never said that! But it sounds like you're familiar with it.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: Roberto Selbach Teixeira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Date: 09 Nov 2000 17:26:20 -0500
>>>>> "Aaron" == Aaron R Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Aaron> Proper, secure Windows usage policy: 1. Don't move the
Aaron> mouse 2. Don't click the mouse buttons 3. Don't type
Aaron> anything on the keyboard.
Aaron> Any others?
You forgot the screen savers! I've seen thay crashing a Windows :)
cheers,
Roberto
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: The Sixth Sense
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 14:26:41 -0500
Bruce Schuck wrote:
>
> "David Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8ub6bt$t7q$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> > If you have a Windows machine connected to a WTS server, you need a client
> > licence for it.
>
> Yes. However, if your machine has Win2K Pro, that IS the client license.
You still need a licence.
What's up with that?
I can administrate a Unix machine from an IBM AS-400....NO steenkeen license needed.
>
> > I looked vaguely at WTS when it first became available
> > (pre-w2k), and at that time if you used an NT workstation to access a WTS
> > application, you needed to buy a second NT workstation licence for the
> > client machine!!
>
> False. Never true.
>
> >You had to pay twice, and even then the WTS application
> > would only run in a tiny window with low colours.
>
> False. Never true.
>
> >
> > Is WTS actually usable now?
>
> Very.
>
> > I mean, if the client has a 1600x1200x24
> > display you use server-hosted apps with the same resolutions?
>
> I've never had a resolutionproblem.
>
> > And are the
> > client licences now something reasonable rather than a complete joke?
>
> Yes. They are now reasonable. Win2K Pro = WTS CAL
>
> And of course you cn buy completely separate CAL just for WTS.
>
> And you can buy the Terminal Service Connector
>
> etc etc
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/guide/server/pricing/terminal.asp
>
> >
> >
> > Bruce Schuck wrote in message ...
> > >
> > >"Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >news:sZ2O5.14115$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >>
> > >> "Toon Afish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >> news:SUYN5.6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> > Shhh! Be quiet! He doesn't know about the built-in Terminal Services
> on
> > >> > Win2K...
> > >>
> > >> How many places are you allowed to have the client without paying
> > >> extra?
> > >
> > >You get two free licenses for admin. If you have Win2k Pro, you also have
> a
> > >WTS license.
> > >
> > >> What if you are somewhere else?
> > >
> > >2 anywhere for free. No restrictions.
> > >
> > >Plus every Win2K pro install is also a WTS license.
> > >
> > >And you can buy more licenses if you need them.
> > >
> > >And the Win2K pro WTS licenses also allow the running of any published
> app
> > >on the server as well.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: The Sixth Sense
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 14:28:22 -0500
Bruce Schuck wrote:
>
> "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:CZcO5.14177$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > "Bruce Schuck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:fv4O5.124627$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > > > Shhh! Be quiet! He doesn't know about the built-in Terminal Services
> > on
> > > > > Win2K...
> > > >
> > > > How many places are you allowed to have the client without paying
> > > > extra?
> > >
> > > You get two free licenses for admin. If you have Win2k Pro, you also
> have
> > a
> > > WTS license.
> > >
> > > > What if you are somewhere else?
> > >
> > > 2 anywhere for free. No restrictions.
> >
> > Does that mean I can have it loaded everywhere and only run 2 at
> > once, or would I only be able to load it on 2 machines?
>
> 2 at once.
>
> >
> > > Plus every Win2K pro install is also a WTS license.
> >
> > Why should I want to be locked into running something
> > from only one vendor, let alone a partular version?
>
> Why anyone would want anything other than Win2k pro on their desktop or
> laptop is beyond me
This is why you fail.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Javaduke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OS stability
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 08:27:49 +1300
You must never have used a Sun Microsystem Spitfire before, I have upgraded
Solaris without a reboot, opened the case and threw in a new CPU, Solaris
instantly found it and started to utilise it, added more servers to create a
cluster with out any downtime, until I see Windows give these results I am
very happy to stick with good o'l reliable UNIX.
javaduke
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: The Sixth Sense
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 14:30:57 -0500
Ayende Rahien wrote:
>
> "." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Why anyone would want anything other than Win2k pro on their desktop or
> > > laptop is beyond me ...
> >
> > Why anyone would want to contribute to Microsofts domination of the world
> > is beyond me.
>
> Why would someone care who make the application as long as it works, is
> beyond me.
Lack of choices, and Abuse of power isn't a concern to you?
Maybe you should move to move to North Korea. It sounds ideal for you.
>
> > It's also beyond me why anyone would so proactively advocate everyone
> > using Win2k... Win2k is simply not suitable for a large number of
> > people. You'd think that someone as familiar with it as you appear to be
> > would understand this, but I guess it's just another case of "I picked
> > the right thing for me, everyone choosing something else must be wrong.
> > I must convert the heathens."
>
> I must agrees with both you and bruce opinions.
> I don't see any reason whatsoever to not use w2k for any purpose you can
> think of.
> In fact, I know that I would go into greats lengths just to use it.
> But I agrees with you in that everyone choosing something else have the
> right to choose ( to suffer :) ).
>
> > I don't try to advocate linux or *BSD as the sole solution to operating
> > systems, why should you with 2k? (I do like to point out the advantages
> > though... there are many people running blind who don't even realise
> > alternatives exist...)
>
> LOL.
> Actually, the same goes for me (or at least I like to think so).
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: The Sixth Sense
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 14:34:55 -0500
Ayende Rahien wrote:
>
> For the most part, I agrees.
> The problem is that Apple's actions, to take an example out of the blue, are
> just as morally flawed, and it's not even being condemned about them.
That's because they all turn into self-inflicted wounds in the form of
limited market-share.
When their primary product was the Apple ][, with completely open architecture
(hell, the access to the card slots was held by velcro, not screws), they
were IMMENSELY popular.
When Apple decided that they would try to control EVERYTHING on the machine,
including trying out a completely closed hardware architecture for a couple
years....their market share plummeted.
>
> "." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Why anyone would want to contribute to Microsofts domination of the
> world
> > > > is beyond me.
> > >
> > > Why would someone care who make the application as long as it works, is
> > > beyond me.
> >
> > Well, because in our commercialised world the only way I can hope to make
> > any kind of difference is by voting with my dollars, and encouraging
> > others to do the same.
> >
> > I was treated rudely by an employee at a local store... when nothing was
> > done about it, I informed the owner that I would never again visit his
> > store, and I would be sure to pass on word of my bad experiences.
> >
> > A local ISP here treats its employees badly, and cares about it's
> > customers even less... I will not do business with that company any
> > more.
> >
> >
> > MS are not competing fairly. They are a dirty underhanded company, and I
> > consider it a matter of conscience to not fund them (intentionally) in
> > any way.
> >
> >
> > That's (another reason) why I don't like MS.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (A transfinite number of monkeys)
Subject: Re: Linux Is Lame. Sorry but it is true
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 19:40:05 GMT
On Thu, 09 Nov 2000 15:58:48 GMT,
Angular Turnip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Linux simply put is a piece of crap. I installed Mandrake 7.2 yesterday
: on a generic home built system and I can't believe that anyone but a
: real techie would switch from Windows just to run Linux.
Hi Steve/Claire/whatever your real name is.. Good to see you've changed
names again!
: Why in the world does this
: thing need a swap partition when I have 512 meg of memory? Must be one
: heck of a memory pig.
Just a point of fact - Windoze will *require* swap space, even with 512 MB
of RAM. It's so a crashdump can be written to disk before the system
checks out, in the event of a crash (which BTW is far more likely under
Windoze)...
--
Jason Costomiris <>< | Technologist, geek, human.
jcostom {at} jasons {dot} org | http://www.jasons.org/
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jake Taense)
Subject: Re: All hail the Konqueror development team
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 19:40:46 GMT
I
>All who are "not worthy" can run LoseDOWS....
>
>All who are worthy...run Linux.
And all of us who don't tie our "worthiness" to something as ridiculous as our
choice of OS can go about our day getting work done with whatever tool we
happen to decide will do the job.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Subject: Re: OS stability
Date: 9 Nov 2000 19:41:51 GMT
Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8uepuj$s3r$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > "sfcybear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> > news:8ud4os$s0h$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >> The longest uptime on the list comes from Universitaetsklinikum Rudolf
>> >> Virchow with 825 days, OVER 2 years! Number 50 came was Octel
>> >> Communications Corporation at just under a year, arespectable 347 days!
>> >> Linux's best reported uptime? Over a year 406 days.
>>
>> > Hmm... Sounds like a bunch of servers with security holes. Since
> they're on
>> > the internet, they can be easily identified and targeted by their
> uptimes.
>>
>> Ummm...
>>
>> You do realize that you only very rarely have to reboot a UNIX machine
> when
>> a security patch is applied, no?
>>
>> And theres nearly always a way around it.
>>
>> We dont all run windows, erik.
> Rarely is not never. You have to reboot to apply a kernel patch. Period.
Some operating systems do not require kernel patches, einstein.
> Machines with several year uptimes simply have not had those patches
> applied.
The point is moot for a very large number of them.
>> >> But what about MS? None in the top 50? Well to be fair W2000 has only
>> >> been out for what 9 months and the best uptime I found came from Dell
>> >> with a W2K server up for 81 days less than 1/3 of the total time w2k
> has
>> >> been out. The best w2k uptime reported by MS? 75 long days! Not even 3
>> >> months. Then there is NT the OS that so many WinSuporters said was so
>> >> stable, MS reports about 28 days! Not even a month! The poor MS admins
>> >> if that is the BEST NT can do!
>>
>> > That would be about the time that SP1 came out. SP1 includes kernel
>> > updates. No way to apply them without rebooting, in any OS.
>>
>> Some OSen update the kernel via module revisions (see QNX, Be, AIX) and
>> do not need to be rebooted.
> Yes, you can upgrade the modules, but the core kernel itself cannot be
> upgraded without a reboot.
And again, very often it never needs to be.
=====.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Subject: Re: OS stability
Date: 9 Nov 2000 19:42:57 GMT
Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "sfcybear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8uees6$s39$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> In article <DduO5.7124$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > "sfcybear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> > news:8ud4os$s0h$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > > The longest uptime on the list comes from Universitaetsklinikum
>> Rudolf
>> > > Virchow with 825 days, OVER 2 years! Number 50 came was Octel
>> > > Communications Corporation at just under a year, arespectable 347
>> days!
>> > > Linux's best reported uptime? Over a year 406 days.
>> >
>> > Hmm... Sounds like a bunch of servers with security holes. Since
>> they're on
>> > the internet, they can be easily identified and targeted by their
>> uptimes.
>>
>> By your logic Barns & Noble must be the most secure site around!
> No. It's a fact, any Linux system that's been up over a year has bugs in
> it's kernel that could make it insecure.
That is absolutely *not* the case. It depends on exactly how you built
your kernel and what youre using the machine for. Dammit, I really wish
youd learn something about linux before making such stupid statements.
=====.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 14:43:30 -0500
"Colin R. Day" wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> > > > I was talking about Microshaft LoseDOS...
> > >
> > > And so was I. Got to View -> Options -> File Types and then click
> > > on the file type (if already there) to edit or add a new file type. Add the
> > > action.
> >
> > I thought Microshit LoseDOS was supposed to be intuitive.
> >
>
> And how would you do this?
simple. I wouldn't.
>
> Headers trimmed by request
>
> Colin Day
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jake Taense)
Subject: Aaron R. Kulkis - Who is this guy?
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 19:44:42 GMT
I can't believe how many posts he's responsible for...
If you're reading this, Aaron - please answer:
You claim to be a UNIX Systems Engineer.
Is that an Engineer in the same way as an MCSE is an Engineer (i.e. not an
Engineer at all)?
If it is vendor-based, what certification do you possess to qualify as an
"Engineer"?
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From: "Clifford W. Racz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux vs Microsoft Misconceptions:
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 14:42:09 -0500
"Javaduke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8udf82$3ps$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Here are some Linux vs. Windows misconceptions:
>
>
> 5. Microsoft Tech Support is Great: Another myth created by the wintrolls
> of the world. 1. Had Microsoft actually listened to customers (which the
> claim to do) they would not charge for techsupport, shite, ya pay $400 for
a
> bloody piece of software, a little support would be nice! 2. I rang up,
> after two hours of getting switched from department to department I was
> finally told that they had changed there database format and as a result I
> would have to read a 6 page document describing how I can import it into
> Visual Basic 6 using a special work around.
>
I bought RedHat because it came with "Support". I called because it froze
up when I tried to install it on my laptop; the first thing they tell me is
"We don't support Laptops." So, I did a desktop installation and I was
having problems with installing SSH (because i was a newbie, not a moron).
I call and they say, "We don't support that...". So, I look on the web and
find that you need many different packages and then you cannot just type
"y", you need to type "yes".
Finally, I find a tech support person who is compassionate and they say
(unofficially) that I can kickstart my laptop and configure a framebuffer
using the framebuffer how-to (snicker) except that if I use the wrong
settings, I can fry my screen. Good luck. So, I spend many hours screwing
around and then release 7 comes out and everything goes fine except I cannot
get the screen to work and tech support won't do anything.
So, I try Mandrake 7.2 recently, which goes very well! Find a configuration
on the Linux Laptop page that came out about the same time as Mandrake 7.2
and now my laptop runs.
On my desktop, I cannot get the kernel to compile - I get an Error 2 message
no matter what. So sound won't be compiled in and I can't get anything to
work (like Gnome recording stuff). What a waste of time.
What did I pay for then? I never had problems with Windows on either
system. I don't have the time to mess around. Linux seems to be like
windows in this way - "All talk." I think it is excellent for a web server,
for I have not had any problems (except the linux configuration under RedHat
6.2 that was a known bug) but definately not as a desktop OS for people who
want a computer that works for them, not a best friend.
I am an american, so i want ease of use. I have children that are growing
up and my son always asks me, when I am ttrying to get the computer running,
"Dada, did you broked it again? The computer? I wanna play with yooooo..."
After many, MANY hours of playing with Linux , after I bought RedHat box-set
with "Support", spent many hours combing the web for info, read much of my
Osbourne "The Complete Reference: Red Hat Linux" (which is a great book for
new guys), and got everything running and usable, I have concluded this:
After all was said and done, it wasn't worth it. If you are a new guy or
just want a computer to use for simple stuff (like word processing, web
browsing, playing a few games, that sort of thing) Don't mess with Linux.
It just isn't ready yet.
Additionally, Don't mess with Linux on a laptop unless you have a LOT of
free time to waste. It just isn't ready yet.
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