Linux-Advocacy Digest #142, Volume #35 Mon, 11 Jun 01 21:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (Rotten168)
Re: Silly Gnome DNS lookups
Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals ("Matthew Gardiner")
Re: KDE and Gnome are totally 80s (Adam Ierymenko)
Re: which OS is better to learn for an entry level job? (Rotten168)
Re: What language are use to program Linux stuff? (mlw)
Re: Redhat video problems. (Terry Porter)
Re: Arabs and Palestinians Was: IBM Goes Gay (Chris Street)
Re: Redhat video problems. (Terry Porter)
Re: Test your Brain! (B'ichela)
Linux user. (Chris Street)
Re: Dennis Ritchie -- He Created Unix, But Now Uses Microsoft Windows (Chris Street)
Re: Redhat video problems. (Terry Porter)
Re: Redhat video problems. (Terry Porter)
Re: The beginning of the end for microsoft (Terry Porter)
Re: The Microsoft PATH. (Terry Porter)
Re: More micro$oft "customer service" (Charles Lyttle)
Getting used to Linux (mlw)
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From: Rotten168 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:46:00 GMT
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> I like SANE people. Most black people I know are sane (unlike you).
> Gays are suicidal, which is not sane.
Actually you may be right there. Young gay men are having unprotected
sex at an extremely high and foolish rate, which is suicide. But it
doesn't have to be that way.
> > Look how irrational he is! He wants to make what gays do everybody's
> > business because of AIDS, but doesn't seem to care about diseases
> > spread mainly by heterosexual contact.
>
> which DEADLY, INCURABLE diseases are spread by heterosexual contact?
AIDS is, you friggin' dunce. Don't believe me? Go have sex with an
infected hooker and see if you contract it.
Don't want to? Why not?
--
- Brent
"General Veer, prepare your underpants for ground assault."
- Darth Vader
http://rotten168.home.att.net
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Silly Gnome DNS lookups
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 00:53:42 +0200
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Mart van de Wege" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "ipslo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> My configuration is the default configuration for Mandrake 7.2, 8.0. If
>> I'm not connected to the internet everything is fine. When I'm connected
>> to the internet gnome goes to the internet for DNS everytime i open an
>> app. Having the IP in the host doesn't prevent it. I know because my
>> firewall logs everything. The major problem arises if the internet goes
>> down like roadrunner does alot. Gnome becomes completely unable to open
>> apps. I have to reboot without the internet to get it running again.
>>
> Hmm,
>
> I must admit that I don't know the slightest thing on how Mandrake
> handles that. Gnome as packaged by Debian doesn't show that behaviour,
> but then Debian maintainers tend to err on the side of caution when it
> comes to net related stuff.
> Have you tried asking in Mandrake related forums? Or the Gnome users
> list?
>
> Mart
I've just checked with tcpdump on my LM8.0 system. No sign of any IP
activity when starting gnome apps. I don't know what his problem is
but I don't think he is going to find a solution in c.o.l.a.
--
Over 100 security bugs in Microsoft SW last year. An infamous
record. The worst offending piece of SW, by far, IIS. 2001 isn't
looking any better.
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From: "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:55:54 +1200
> > I like SANE people. Most black people I know are sane (unlike you).
> > Gays are suicidal, which is not sane.
>
> Actually you may be right there. Young gay men are having unprotected
> sex at an extremely high and foolish rate, which is suicide. But it
> doesn't have to be that way.
However, unfortunately, in the US, they simply try to apply the same logic
from hetrosexual sex education and information to the gay community. Here in
New Zealand, the government gives money to the gay community organisation in
charge of sex education and information, and since then, the number of
aids/hiv cases has gone down dramatically, simply by listening to the
targeted group, rather than trying to use cheap generalisations to create a
framework. Europe is another example of governments addressing the issue
instead of ducking the issue, as the US has done for the last 15 years
because it doesn't win votes.
Regarding Aarons comment, "Gays are suicidal", that is correct, they have a
higher rate of depression due to people like Aaron making sweaping
generalisations and prejudice in the work force and in the community. I
have, on several occasions helped people in that position (nearing suicide),
and unlike Aaron, I don't need to be prejudice to prove that I am
hetrosexual.
Matthew Gardiner
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From: Adam Ierymenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE and Gnome are totally 80s
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:02:33 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mlw wrote:
> Corpus Callosum wrote:
> >
> > <flame>
> >
> > Why are KDE and Gnome both attempting to replicate Microsoft Windows
> > when technologies like XML and CORBA would make something so much
> > more elegant possible?
> >
> > Why are they still coding user interfaces in C or C++ when XML would
> > be so much better?
>
> Obviously you know nothing about how computers work. XML is a declarative
> language. It is not a programming language.
>
> C and C++ are the best way to go about doing such a development. The only thing
> XML would be good for is defining the various settings, there still needs to
> have actually software behind it.
He's sorta got a point, albeit it would sound better w/o the
flamethrower.
KDE and Gnome are more or less duplications of Windows
although they may be better in terms of their core structure
in some ways.
This idea has been brought up many times before not
neccessarily with XML being the best way to do this. (But
it is worth looking at.)
Basically, think "namespace unification" and the unix
modular way of doing things.
KDE and Gnome mimic Windows in that each application
is a monolithic entitiy. Integrating desktop functionality
tends to result in huge monolithic do-everything entities
like Konquerer forming. Under Windows it's called
Internet Exporer.
The Unix way to do things would be to have each little
thing be it's own self-contained black box and then have
the black boxes linked together by some kind of glue
language. XML could possibly be that glue, but maybe
not the best choice.
In many ways, KDE, Gnome, Windows, and Aqua are
all 80s/early-90s paradigm GUI environments.
The problem is that so far nobody has figured out a really
good way out of that paradigm besides spewing flames
like this guy. The KDE and Gnome lists (and the KDE-
vs-Gnome holy wars) are full of this kind of stuff.
Maybe this has to wait for computers to become more
powerful and have more memory and resources to wast..
err.. I mean use to run increasingly abstract and elegant
architectures. When we all have a dual 2ghz 64-bit
machine with 2gb of RAM then this might be a good
idea.
In many ways Java was written under the same kind of
ideology-- when Java first came out computers were in
many ways too slow to fully take advantage of it. Yet,
today on my dual 400 pentium box Borland JBuilder
runs almost as fast as a native app even though it's in
100% Java. Big memory pig yes, but who cares now
since 1gb of RAM can now be had for under $300.
Wait a few more years and a totally XML (or some other
glue language) controlled interface backed by a network
of invokable objects might work great. Right now it
would be too much of a pig. (As slowzilla demonstrates)
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From: Rotten168 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: which OS is better to learn for an entry level job?
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 00:26:09 GMT
Matthew Gardiner wrote:
>
> "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9g364k$fa3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > First programming language learnt was BBC Basic, followed by AmigaBASIC
> > ^^^^^^^^^
> >
> > Good choice. One of the best and fastest BASICs ever made. Also one of
> > the few (only one?) that could cope with memory allocation and pointers.
> >
> >
> > -Ed
> AmigaBasic is one program from Microsoft that doesn't suck majorly. 15-16
> years ago, Microsoft was quiet an innovative company, now they are just
> another monopoly trying to maintain its strangle hold on the market. Or as
> Adam Smith, the father of modern economics, put it:
AmigaBasic, is that the program Gates *literally* stole from DEC? I may
be thinking of a Basic compiler actually. He admitted that they found it
on some discarded reel tapes in a DEC trash bin.
This being a major anti-MS NG I'm sure someone must have that link.
--
- Brent
"General Veer, prepare your underpants for ground assault."
- Darth Vader
http://rotten168.home.att.net
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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What language are use to program Linux stuff?
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:33:45 -0400
Ayende Rahien wrote:
>
> "mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Ayende Rahien wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I'm not arguing that C isn't a good language, I'm arguing that it's not
> an
> > > easy language.
> >
> > That largely tends to be dependent on the person using it. A compound bow
> can
> > be more lethal and easier to use than a zip gun, if the person knows how
> to use
> > the bow.
>
> Certainly, what you can get out of a tool is totally depended on the user of
> this tool.
>
> > C and C++ *are* easy languages. They allow almost total control over what
> you
> > are doing. They do not "get in the way." Anything one can do with higher
> > languages can be done in C and C++.
>
> Okay, that is where the problem starts.
> C *requires* you to be in total control, which mean that even a moment of
> distraction can break havoc.
> C++ is much better in this regard, in that you can ignore a lot of stuff
> without dire results.
>
> I *like* being able to get total control, I *don't* like being forced to it.
That's like saying I like driving a car, but I don't want to have to be
careful. Get a moped.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Redhat video problems.
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 12 Jun 2001 00:25:23 GMT
On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:18:50 GMT, flatfish+++ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:07:30 +1200, "Matthew Gardiner"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>>Flatfish, are you illiterate? Maybe instead of venting your fustration here,
>>in COLA, you goto an adult reading class. People can help you. There is
>>nothing to feel ashamed about.
>
>
> I prefer to read Poe, King and Twain rather than waste time wading
I dunno about Twain, but the first two are a little dark for me.
> through poorly written Linux How-NOT- To's.
Bullshit. Your lack of comprehension skills are telling.
>
> BTW, I never read a single Windows book.
And it shows Flatty, really it does.
> Only ones in my library are
> the ones that came with the programs, which amount to the various
> versions of Windows and Flight Simulator.
<sigh>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Street)
Subject: Re: Arabs and Palestinians Was: IBM Goes Gay
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 00:28:27 GMT
On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:56:48 +0200, "Ayende Rahien" <don'[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>"chrisv" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >> Racism is comtemptible.
>> >
>> >I used to think so.
>> >
>> >Then I noticed WHY the entire Arab world refuses to let the palestinians
>> >move into their countries.
>>
>> And why is that, Kookis?
>
>I'm going to butt in because I've little doubt that I've more information
>about it than Kulkis.
>The palestinians, during the last 50 years, has been exposed to many bad
>things from the Israelian, but also to democracy to a degree that doesn't
>exist in the Arab world.
>It's a little published fact that the palestinians wants a chunk of Jordan
>as well as Israel, the last time they tried getting it, the King Hussien
>bombed them with tanks. They've been quite ever since.
>
What chunk of Jordan are they actually after?? Are we talking about
the West Bank, or stuff on the east side of the river??
>And there are enough problems with the Arab countries without taking couple
>of millions of palestinians that will add to them.
>Beside, if the palestinians wanted to integrate with the rest of the Arab
>population, they'd 50 years to do this, instead, they stay in refugee camps
>and dream of something that isn't going to happen.
>
>I've kulkis killfiled, *please* don't tell me if he agrees with me.
Is this a sort of "make my day punk" situation....:)
>
>
79.84% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
The other 42% are made up later on.
In Warwick - looking at flat fields and that includes the castle.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Redhat video problems.
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 12 Jun 2001 00:37:00 GMT
On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:24:18 GMT, flatfish+++ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 11 Jun 2001 07:51:01 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
> wrote:
>
>
>>>>
>>>>Tried that link yet I posted for you this week?
>>>>
>>>>Mart
>>>
>>> Yes but it didn't work.
>
> The Link worked fine.
> The suggestions AT the link didn't work.
>
>
>>On behalf of Mart, 'thanks for not bothering to give any feedback'.
>
> I rather doubt he would want "YOU" speaking for him, and at least he
> offers advice.
Maybe, but it's no different to you telling us what computer users 'want'
on a daily basis, so take it as it comes like a ... fish.
>
> All you do is blab about your "terrible" experiences with Windows 10
> years ago and your ancient garage sale hardware.
Wrong, my wife uses Win98 daily, and I have to maintain this incredible
piece of junk.
>
> And oh yes, the story of how you purged Windows from your life AKA:
Hahahah, 'purged' is a bit strong, I just deleted it, and ran Linux
from 1997. The really good bit is that I managed to sell my Win95 CD
for $50, to some hire company that was in a panic regarding the
SPA (Software 'Protection" Authority, a MS funded company).
>
> "I was born of humble means in a small shack and although we had
> little mom always..........etc ad nauseam..."
>
Hahahaah, is that some Twain ?
Actually I was born in a small city in Western Australia, called Perth
and my life was much like anyone elses, and a whole lot better that
*billions* of unfortunate people who populate this planet..
>
>
>
>>> The other distros will either get the wrong
>>> Trident model, or if they get it correct no matter what I select as
>>> refresh rates etc it won't work.
>>
>>Trident definetly suck, just like your $90 elcheapo Cannon printer.
>
> Tell that to IBM.
Why ?
> So does your laser printer, but I guess it's a good buy at $75.00.
It sucks less than ink jets, and lets face it, all man made things
suck to some degree.
>
>>NOTE: to all COLA posters who havent yet learnt that Flatfish is a
>>Wintroll, whos expressed aim is "to become Linux's worst enemy"
>
> Become?
Yeah, you're *mot* proffesional enough to hold that title.
>
>
>>1/ Don't get sucked in to helping him, its just another rouse.
>>2/ Flatty uses only problematic hardware for Linux, to futher his cause.
>
> Instead of using hardware from 1985 like you do.
>
>
>>Remember, this man is the holder of all these *FAKE* identities, just ask
>>yourself why ?
>
> I just asked myself and am still waiting for the answer to arrive.
Well then, I suppose it will have to remain a mystery, if *you* don't know.
>
>
>>"Steve,Mike,Heather,Simon,teknite,keymaster,keys88,Sewer Rat,
>>S,Sponge,Sarek,piddy,McSwain,pickle_pete,Ishmeal_hafizi,Amy,
>>Simon777,Claire,Flatfish+++,Flatfish"
>
> Wrong...
Why ?
>
>
> snip...more of TP's convoluted posturing.
Whats convoluted about it?
Too many hard to understand words like 'problematic' ?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (B'ichela)
Subject: Re: Test your Brain!
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:26:41 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 07:29:22 -0400, mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Ahhh, but that changes the nature of the problem. There you should fix it. The
>price of doing nothing excceds the price of repair. The formula always works,
>you just have to make sure that the problem is properly understood.
>
>I diagree with the "at any cost." if moving to a different building is cheaper,
>then move.
Hmm. actually its cheaper to fix the floor! Until the building
is sold (its in foreclosure) I don't have to pay rent! ;) (yes I am a
long time tennant here,not squatting). Actually a new floor/cabinets
and appliances don't sound like a bad idea. along with paint.... light
fixtures... Now where are those money tree seeds I had ;)
--
B'ichela
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Street)
Subject: Linux user.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 00:38:54 GMT
Well I finally got a copy of Redhat and an old PC to play with it.
I have to say, I'm reasonably impressed. I first tried Linux, under
the guise of a very early version of Slackware and I was distinctly
miffed to say the least. It took a great deal of messing and fiddling
to get it working.
With the copy of Redhat I now have, it's a lot nicer. X-windows works,
and I didn't have the problems setting up refresh rates that I had
before. I have a stable system that installed first time with a nice
clean GUI. I can now play with all the files and find out what they
can do - no doubt breaking the system in the process, but I found it
the best way to learn. Over the last few years Linux has certainly
grown up, and it gives me the confidence to fiddle with it, as it
seems more polished, more mainstream and less ahem "buggy" or should
that be "quirky"
Whatever.
The main reason I tried again was this ng. If so many people can spend
so long shouting at the top of their lungs, then I guess there must be
something worth looking at. There was, and I'm having fun poking
around.
So thanks a lot guys and gals.
79.84% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
The other 42% are made up later on.
In Warwick - looking at flat fields and that includes the castle.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Street)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Dennis Ritchie -- He Created Unix, But Now Uses Microsoft Windows
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 00:42:42 GMT
On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 07:48:38 GMT, somebody <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Has anyone else read the latest issue of Linux Magazine? There is an interview
>of Dennis Ritchie complete with several photos of him sitting behind his desk at
>bell labs.
>
>his monitor is clearly visible-- very obviously and very ironically running
>ms-windows! LOL, i had to laugh!
>
>i didn't see any mention of that in the interview, but c'mon, the co-inventor of
>UNIX is now using Microsoft WINDOWS?!?!?
>
>check out the article for yourself. dunno if it's online anywhere.
>
I seem to recall that he also had a hand in somthing called C
Guess what Windows was written in???
So I guess he wins either way on this one then......
79.84% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
The other 42% are made up later on.
In Warwick - looking at flat fields and that includes the castle.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Redhat video problems.
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 12 Jun 2001 00:46:08 GMT
On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:11:54 -0400,
Nigel Feltham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>> The other distros will either get the wrong
>>>> Trident model, or if they get it correct no matter what I select as
>>>> refresh rates etc it won't work.
>>>
>>>Trident definetly suck, just like your $90 elcheapo Cannon printer.
>>
>
> What's wrong with Canon printers anyway
Poor accuracy due to sloppy and el cheapo drive system for one.
> - my father recently bought an
> ex-demo BJC2000 in a closing down sale without manuals or software and I
> used my Mandrake 7.2 system ( I have since upgraded to 8.0) to test if for
> him with no problems - I then had the fun of downloading the 3.5mb of
> windows driver for him ( I have a poor phone line and can only usually get
> around 31,000 - I am currently connected at 21,600 and am considering
> switching to cable).
Hahaha, honestly I feel so sorry for the English re internet access, not that
its a lot different here in Australia :(
I was reading on the net that if you live in the USA, that you can
now get fibre (in some places) for $40 per month!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dam, I'm jealous!
Here in Australia, a Telstra (govt monopoly telco )ASDL line costs upwards
of $70 per month and is download limited to 3 gigs, with each additional
megabyte at 35 cents!
Telstra made an after tax profit of around $3 billion last year!
<snip of Nigels well put refutation by example of Flatties FUD)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Redhat video problems.
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 12 Jun 2001 00:48:29 GMT
On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:27:55 GMT, flatfish+++ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:34:52 +0100, drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>
>>>Download a readme is what I meant.
>>Why can't he do that?
> I'd love to see a newbie download a file, or even get ppp running from
> a cli.
Easy, they do it with Windows, which is what most Linux newbies used
before going to Linux.
Or doesnt Windows allow anyone to d/l readme's any more ?
>
> Get out the popcorn.
>
>
>
>
>>Most likely it will be pre-installed anyway.
> Dreamer.
>
> How many people do YOU know that have bought pre-loaded Linux machines
> for their home desktop system?
Microsofts confidential pc manufacturer volume agreements *prevent* that
as the DOJ pointed out.
>
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: The beginning of the end for microsoft
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 12 Jun 2001 00:50:20 GMT
On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:02:36 GMT, Icarus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 09 Jun 2001 17:34:35 GMT, T. Max Devlin
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Said Stuart Fox in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:58:16
>>>"Charlie Ebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>>>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, unicat wrote:
>
> [Did!]
> {Did not either!]
> [Did too so!]
>
> PLEASE keep this nonsense off of otherwise useful newsgroups.
PLEASE get yourself a decent newsreader and stop playing usnet cop.
Thanks,
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: The Microsoft PATH.
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 12 Jun 2001 00:58:00 GMT
On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:12:22 GMT, webgiant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 08 May 2001 23:50:25 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie
> Ebert) wrote:
>
>>A great deal of you don't remember this as you weren't
>>alive during the 80's, at least not consious, and you never
>>knew a life without Windows.
>
> I still have old DOS floppies lying around someplace. Heck, I still
> create MSDOS6.22 boot disks for older DOS games.
>
> Frankly, I wish the Linux community had also had a period without a
> GUI. There'd be more console-only software and games for starters,
We use the cli daily, there are lots of games and apps for the console,
someyou will *never* see under Windos.
> and lets face it, you may be able to run Linux on a 386, but you
> probably don't want to run a GUI on it.
No you wouldnt want to run Xwindows on a 386.
>
>>Windows got it start into business by attacking small business.
????
>>
>>Linux is going the same thing.
???
>>
>>From my consensus in my own town, 50% of the small business's,
>>that being a business with under 100 employee's are using Linux
>>now.
>>
>>Surprisingly, most of these business's have established REDHAT
>>Linux ONLY policies and don't have Novel, other UNIX, or even
>>Windows in their offices anymore.
>>
>>They are LINUX ONLY shops.
>
> The big difference between the Microsoft-only and the Linux-only shops
> is that the Linux-only shops are there by CHOICE.
>
> You might remember, since you claim to have been alive during the 80s
> and 90s, that Microsoft was essentially the only game in town when it
> came to operating systems on the PC,
In the main, this is true. For those of us without university experience
or the internet, Microsoft was *all* you'd find in the shops.
> and this was because IBM was the
> biggest PC manufacturer and MSDOS was its chosen OS.
True.
<snip>
> There are fundamental differences between Linux and Microsoft, the
> most important difference--which renders your entire complaint
> moot--being that Linux has no real interest in making a profit and
> thus has no incentive to be mean and nasty about keeping customers.
I agree, totally.
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From: Charles Lyttle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More micro$oft "customer service"
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 01:00:59 GMT
Greg Cox wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> says...
> > In article
> > <QTyU6.72927$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Daniel
> > Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > How about if the bookshop sells you the
> > > yellow highlighter, as well as the book?
> >
> > How about if Infernosoft sold special DVD players with an AI module that
> > recognized beer cans and cereal boxes in movies it played, and placed
> > ads for Killer Beer and Poopsy Smacksies onto all of them? Mr. Kubrick,
> > would you want your movies played on such a DVD player?
> >
> >
> Actually, I just heard about a new technology becomming available that
> will allow a TV network or station to substitute objects in the
> background of a movie or program. For instance, that can of Coke on the
> table can suddenly become a can of Pepsi...
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
That has been available for some time and there have been cases in court
for doing just that. I think one was last New Year where a Pepsi
billboard was placed over a Coke billboard in Times Square. Most have
been at ball games where the broadcaster has placed adds over the ones
that are posted around the ball park. Broadcasters have taken to buying
blank panels in the park to have places to put their ads without being
sued.
--
Russ Lyttle
"World Domination through Penguin Power"
The Universal Automotive Testset Project at
<http://home.earthlink.net/~lyttlec>
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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Getting used to Linux
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:09:32 -0400
I remember years ago when I first started using Linux. I was a little scared
about trusting data and stuff to an OS written by volunteers, but I told myself
I would have to go cold turkey if I was ever going to do it.
That was in 1996.
I have not lost one bit of data to Linux. I can count all the crashes on one
hand. My pay scale has doubled.
I will never go back to Windows.
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