Linux-Advocacy Digest #676, Volume #30 Wed, 6 Dec 00 01:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("Chad C. Mulligan")
Re: Linux is awful (Uncle Fester)
Re: Windows review ("Chad C. Mulligan")
Re: Of course, there is a down side... ("Kelsey Bjarnason")
Re: Joe Linux Advocate of the week! (kiwiunixman)
Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever ("Kelsey Bjarnason")
Re: Anybody considering Linux should read this. (tom)
Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever (T. Max Devlin)
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From: "Chad C. Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 04:53:06 GMT
"Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:J0jX5.13485$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Chad Myers wrote:
> > >
> > > "Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Chad Myers wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > As well they should with Daley's Chicago and all the rumors (facts
> rather)
> > > > > of corruption, voter fraud, voter intimidation, coaching, etc that
cost
> > > > > Nixon the election.
> > > >
> > > > Where's your source on this? Where is your proof?
> > >
> > > Daley's iron grip of Chicago is a well known fact. If you do even some
> > > passive research, you will find numerous accountings of organized
voter
> fraud
> > > in Chicago. Everything ranging from dead people voting, to felons, to
> bribing
> > > homeless and poor voters with cigarettes, drugs, etc.
> >
> > Ha ha, I was merely quoting the late Richard J. Daley, who was fond of
> > saying "Where is your proof?" whenever challenged by allegations.
> > If you remember, I recommended you read "Boss" by Mike Royko. Of
course,
> > you'll chalk it up to the daemonic Democrats, but it's really an issue
> > of personal power.
>
> The FBI initiated an investigation after the 1960 election in Chicago
because
> of strong allegations of these claims.
>
> The FBI doesn't initiate investigations into existing Presidents or
President-
> elects very often, if ever. This makes a huge statement as to the validity
> of the allegations.
>
> What happened with the investigation? No report was ever released. The
> case was put on hold, never to be seen again. I'm sure it's under a rug
> somewhere or perhaps at the bottom of Lake Michigan.
>
Yeah, J Edgar was such a strong supporter of the Kennedys that he must have
protected them.
> Maybe that's what Hillary was looking for with all the FBI files she
> had in the White House?
>
>
> -Chad
>
>
>
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From: Uncle Fester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Linux is awful
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 04:54:50 GMT
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> "Uncle Fester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > In fact I am using a recent Mandrake, but I can't get the accelerated x
> > > server to work.
> >
> > Most normal & supported cards are a breeze to configure on install.
> > What card you got??
>
> Hercules Dynamite 128/Video. It's an tseng labs ET6000 chipset. When
> selecting either ET6000 or Hercules Dynamite 128/Video, the x server fails
> to start. It's only error message "Try some different settings". I've
> tried every refresh rate, every video size, every color depth. I've tried
> just about every setting. It just doesn't work. So I have to use generic
> SVGA, and even that causes all kids of screen corruption problems.
>
> As I said, this card worked fine under Mandrake 7.1 and fine under Windows.
> There's nothing wrong with it.
Which version of X are you attempting to install, 4.0.1 or 3.3.6? And
is it the same version as you used in LM 7.1? I'm not so sure 4.0.1
will support that card offhand, but I'd sure think that 3.3.6 would.
--
Chuck Kandler
Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
Registered Linux User #180746
http://counter.li.org
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From: "Chad C. Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Windows review
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 04:58:02 GMT
<moonie>; ")" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Tue, 05 Dec 2000, Colin R. Day wrote:
> >JM wrote:
> >
> >
> >> >of the time.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >True; RAM is dirt-cheap today (I personally recommend 128 MB as a
"floor")
> >>
> >> Cheap? What planet are you living on? It's extremely expensive!
> >>
> >
> >The cards I've seen at Office Depot are a little over a dollar a
megabyte.
> >
> >Colin Day
>
> I have found it MUCH cheaper around $60 (US) for 128MB.
Office Despot is often rather high priced.
> --
> moonie ;)
>
> Registered Linux User #175104
> (Registered at: http://counter.li.org)
>
> KDE2
> Kernel 2.4.0-test5
> XFree86 4.0 Nvidia .94 drivers
> RAID 0 Striped
> Test-Pilots-R-Us ;)
> ICQ #83003404
> AIM mooniesdl3
> MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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From: "Kelsey Bjarnason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Of course, there is a down side...
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 04:44:11 GMT
[snips]
"Goldhammer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:MWgX5.57779$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >>It can most certainly edit text.
> >>Why do you claim that it can't edit text?
> >
> >OK, it can barely edit text, but that's about it. For Christ's sake,
> >there are less than 10 shortcut keys in the whole thing! You can't
> >even use Ctrl+S to save. It's a good job I've got emacs for Windows.
>
>
> And here the MS advocates may choose to respond: "but the average
> Joe User doesn't need shortcut keys..." or some such drivel.
Don't know about advocates, but at least one user - me - might point out
that I don't really expect a hell of a lot from the freebies tossed in with
the OS, regardless of who makes it. I didn't with HP, I didn't with OS/2, I
don't with Windows. That some OSen _may_ bundle more useful utilities is
nice, but hardly significant; if this is the determining factor, you might
want to try a Mac with a bundled office ensemble.
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From: kiwiunixman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Joe Linux Advocate of the week!
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 05:08:05 GMT
Thank you, Thank you, you're too kind. I would like to thank Microsoft
for making me into anti-everything user who cannot stand the thought of
Windows being used as a server platform and users suffering because of
it. Once again, Thank you for this great honour.
kiwiunixman
MH wrote:
> And the winner is, once again folks...you've quite an advocate in
> "kiwiunixman" who penned the ink fantastic with this gem of civil
> conversation...
>
>
>
>>>> or chad, you could go and fuck yourself and your winbox.
>>>
>> kiwiunixman
>
>
>
>
>> Or you can just get a real OS with a real windowing and display system
>>
>>> that support advanced font rendering, color correction, aliasing or
>>
> anti-,
>
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> -Chad
>>
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From: "Kelsey Bjarnason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 04:56:34 GMT
[snips]
"Nigel Feltham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:90jned$1eo6g$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> up to 63,000 bugs in win2k
63,000 bugs? Got a cite for that? Last I heard, there were 60,000-odd
*issues*, but that's a different matter; those can range from actually fatal
bugs to requests to have more font control in dialog boxes, or other equally
un-buglike things.
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From: tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Anybody considering Linux should read this.
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 05:12:14 GMT
I see adds in Computer User and elsewhere for Linux certification
training. How would that work? Certainly, somebody would need to set
standards for certification; otherwise, companies would have no
guarantee (as if they do now) that new hires will have a certain
minimum level of skill & knowledge. But who sets the standard for
Linux and who "sells" the certifications?
Tom
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Charlie Ebert:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you are a software developer to play their game initially
> you were looking at 2-3 grand a year to keep current with
> NT and the server and the SQL database and the VB tools.
>
> Today including your certification it's much closer to $8,000
> a year and to BOOT the market is saturated with people with
> certifications so the market has fallen on the pay scale.
>
> It truely doesn't pay to play this game.
>
> Charlie
>
>
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Before you buy.
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever
Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 11:31:36 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said Nigel Feltham in alt.destroy.microsoft on Mon, 4 Dec 2000 22:58:37
>>Tried StarOffice 5.2, and it was close. But there were minor
>>differences for documents that use a lot of fancy formatting and it
>>happens that our standard templates hit some of the gotchas.
>
>Maybe (if you are lucky) those problems may be fixed in openoffice 6?
>
>Or perhaps you could create a simple template in word which breaks
>on openoffice or staroffice and send it to the development team so it
>can be corrected in future versions?
You're kidding, right? The amount of effort it would take to reduce a
particular template to a simple template which still breaks is so
herculean as to be incredible. Go with the evolutionary approach; its
too complex to try to be empirical. Dump the monopoly crapware first
change you get, and wait for the illegal behavior to be rectified.
--
T. Max Devlin
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever
Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 11:31:39 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said Erik Funkenbusch in alt.destroy.microsoft on Mon, 4 Dec 2000
>"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> >That is what mlw originally specified.
>>
>> Only because that's the only possible way to do it in Windows.
>
>Not true.
A protestation does not an argument make.
[...]
>> Now go back and reboot, even though they work. They won't work, because
>> its disabled, of course. Turn them back on. They won't work, until you
>> reboot.
>
>Not true. I tested what I said before I posted it. You do *NOT* have to
>reboot. Do it yourself if you don't believe me.
You don't have to reboot to enable TCP/IP, even though it wasn't enabled
when you booted on any interface? Somehow, I don't believe you, but you
might actually be right. Try one more time. _No_ TCP/IP at all
installed, and then you add the TCP/IP protocol and assign an address to
an existing adapter. It works, without rebooting?
>> The "bug", unbeknownst to Erik, is that they don't require the reboot,
>> not that they put the window up saying they do. Imagine the hell your
>> apps will have trying to figure out what's not working, when the TCP/IP
>> connection has been disabled, but not removed. Being disabled but not
>> removed, after all, isn't a state that the OS recognizes. As indicated
>> by the fact that you need to reboot to turn it back on, _unless you
>> haven't rebooted yet_.
>
>You do *NOT* have to reboot to turn it back on. I stated so specifically,
>and I've tested it before saying it.
I think you missed what I wrote. Try to read it twice if you're
confused. Reboot *first*, with TCP/IP removed. And *then* add TCP/IP,
and assign an address to a card. See if it works.
>You don't know what you're talking about.
No, I don't know precisely what you're talking about, because you don't.
Once you can clearly elucidate what you've done, which isn't simply not
having to reboot to turn it back on, then we'll both know what you're
talking about when you tell me it works. It just might; the DLLs are
already there, supposedly they may be loaded, even though there is no
TCP/IP 'installed', so that when you re-install it, it really only
enables what's already there, and it might very well work without
rebooting. But that would have to make sense, and Windows doesn't
always, or very nearly ever, make sense.
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever
Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 11:31:41 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said Erik Funkenbusch in alt.destroy.microsoft on Mon, 4 Dec 2000
>"Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>> > "Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[...]
>> So you're saying TCP/IP is not built into the NT kernel, but is built into
>> the Linux kernel?
>
>Correct.
>
>> I guess I don't understand what this thread is now belaboring.
>
>It's belaboring the point the mlw made a silly statement about having to
>reboot to remove TCP/IP in windows (presumably implying that you don't have
>to in Linux, which was wrong).
Which is to say, you understood precisely what Erik is belaboring, which
is that TCP/IP is not built into the NT kernel, but is built into the
Linux kernel. Erik just brought up the fact that NT puts spurious
messages up indicating that it needs to be rebooted although he says it
doesn't. Nevertheless, it does, even though it shouldn't, because
TCP/IP isn't built into the NT kernel. Then again, NT doesn't really
have a kernel, so we might forgive it, if only it weren't so confused
about whether or not it need to be rebooted, and provided it didn't.
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever
Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 11:31:43 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said Charlie Ebert in alt.destroy.microsoft on Mon, 04 Dec 2000 07:05:40
[...]
>You don't have to reboot Linux for ANYTHING EXCEPT, changing out
>the kernel! And you don't have to change the kernel to turn off
>TCP/IP.
Actually, there's where he has you, Charlie. You do, because TCP/IP is
built into the kernel in Unix, including Linux. But that's presuming a
particular concept of "turn off" which you might disagree with. This
reflect's Erik's own argument, that you can't 'remove' TCP/IP, like you
can in Windows. Erik undermined his argument, of course, by pointing
out that 'removing' TCP/IP doesn't remove it, but merely disables it,
but that's beside the point. In Windows, you can 'remove' TCP/IP as if
it were a driver or a service, and you can't on Linux. All you can do
is disable it. This would be the equivalent of "removing the bindings"
on Windows, which corresponds to the Unix concept of assigning IP
addresses. Remove all IP addresses from all cards on Unix, and you've
'turned off' IP. But on NT, there's an extra thing; removing TCP/IP as
a protocol, since its not built in to the kernel.
What happens when you remove TCP/IP as a protocol, and then reboot, is
that you have to reboot again in order to use any TCP/IP, so it sort of
*like* being built into the kernel, but I think we've been through that
part.
[...]
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever
Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 11:31:45 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said Erik Funkenbusch in alt.destroy.microsoft on Mon, 4 Dec 2000
>"JM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[...]
>> Why "*REMOVE*" when you can "*TURN OFF*"?????
>
>Because that wasn't what mlw said.
Because that's the only way to "turn off", in Windows.
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever
Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 11:31:49 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said Christopher L. Estep in alt.destroy.microsoft on Mon, 04 Dec 2000
>"Nigel Feltham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:90h8b7$110de$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >You mean "each and ever trifling configuration change"
>>
>> Thanks for correcting my mistake Aaron.
>>
>> I guess the CTRL-ALT-DEL to logon on NT is on of ms's in-jokes at their
>> gullible customers.
>
>This unalterable (at least in NT 4) way of forcing identification is
>actually a strength in the NT security model.
(C) Copyright One Microsoft Way, 1998, All Rights Reserved.
>You can (and most companies do) lock down terminals (or Linux/UNIX boxes) in
>similar fashion.
[>Note to self: send bill to Microsoft for 36 words * .05 = $1.80]
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever
Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 11:31:47 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said Charlie Ebert in alt.destroy.microsoft on Tue, 05 Dec 2000 01:51:20
[...]
>Fukenbusch! You are full of shit!
>By this argument your actually trying to sell the crowd
>that there IS a way to REMOVE TCPIP from Windows 2000
>and not just TURN IT OFF!!!!
>
>You need a bone marrow transplant to the BRAIN Fukenbusch!
>
>Who is going to listen to this 3 year old shit!
>
>Get off COLA!
You know what? Erik Funkenbusch is one of the biggest Wintrolls I've
ever seen, and you're *still* full of shit. If you can't even
understand that in even a trivially technical discussion of software,
the concepts of 'remove' and 'turn off' aren't so arbitrary that you're
argument is pathetic ranting, then I'd prefer someone else's bone marrow
to your brains.
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever
Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 11:31:54 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said [EMAIL PROTECTED] () in
alt.destroy.microsoft on Tue, 05 Dec 2000 02:59:42 GMT;
>On Mon, 04 Dec 2000 23:17:44 GMT, Christopher L. Estep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
>>This unalterable (at least in NT 4) way of forcing identification is
>>actually a strength in the NT security model.
>
>There is nothing magic about c/a/d/. ANY keystroke combination could have been
>used equally. If the keyboard driver isn't secure then no part of the OS can be
>considered secure.
You misunderstand the point: it's unequivical because c/a/d (or as I
like to say "Ctrl-Alt-Del", since I can type) reboots WinDOS. So when
you hit it, it "proves" its NT. It isn't a matter of user
authentication security; its OS authentication.
>For MS, the advantage using c/a/d/ has is making people accidentally reboot
>other operating systems.
It would have worked the other way. If Ctrl-Alt-Del would have rebooted
into an alternate OS than WinDOS, MS wouldn't have used it the way they
did on NT; they would have disabled entirely, probably.
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever
Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 11:32:08 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said Erik Funkenbusch in alt.destroy.microsoft on Tue, 5 Dec 2000
[...]
>No, actually, it's part of the C2 security requirements. You need a way to
>initiate a login which cannot be masked by a user mode program. On a
>typical unix or Linux machine, you need only run a 10 line program that
>clears the screen and prints login: to steal peoples passwords.
Well, obviously this is not true, as typical Unix machines have achieved
C2 security. Initiating a login *is* a "user mode" program.
>That's not
>possible under NT if you don't have administrator privs.
Unless you've hacked NT, which isn't necessarily impossible, seeing as
everyone has decompilers. Just because the keyboard controller treats
it special doesn't mean the software doesn't control what it does.
Quite the opposite. The only 'threat' averted by this mechanism, which
has nothing to do with C2 security, is using an NT system to masquerade
as a WinDOS system (which isn't secure to begin with) to steal network
passwords. An elaborate ruse, but the industry was positively
*bustling* to reject NT, and MS had to work very hard at figuring out a
way to prevent any potential reason for refusing monopoly crapware not
just on the desktop, but workstations and servers as well.
--
T. Max Devlin
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever
Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 11:32:25 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said Nigel Feltham in alt.destroy.microsoft on Mon, 4 Dec 2000 23:37:56
>>>rescue disk to boot.
>>>fschk, on one occasion I stopped it after 5 hours (4GB HD, about 3/4 full).
>>>The second & third time fschk itself failed to fix the system.
>
>Of course if he had installed on a reiserfs partition then fschk will never need
>to be used - well worth using reiserfs when machines may be switched off
>without being shut down properly (or where power failure is common).
Or you're a moron, which includes me, so please tell me more. I've
never heard of this 'reiserfs'. I'm dying to find out what it stands
for. What's the downside?
[...]
>>>> Vanished???? This is isn't the X-files! Further back, you
>>>> were claiming that the partition table was damaged. Now
>>>> you're claiming that the filesystem vanished - what, every
>>>> single bit on the HD just 'went away'?
>
>The Truth is out there.
>
>Send for the hex-files (bad pun).
Good pun. ;-)
[...]
>I have never had a drive fail at home (they usually get upgraded
>within 2 or 3 years which doesn't give them time to fail) and the
>last failure at work was 3 years ago (guess it's time to upgrade
>that home drive again as it's 3 years old now).
Last time I had a drive failure was a good seven years ago, at least.
These days, they just get too small before they wear out.
[...]
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