Linux-Advocacy Digest #676, Volume #33           Tue, 17 Apr 01 21:13:03 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Linux is for the lazy (Roy Culley)
  Re: Am I ****? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000 ("Tom Martin")
  Re: Am I ****? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000 ("Tom Martin")
  Re: Am I ****? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000 ("Tom Martin")
  Re: Why left-wing communist assholes hate Reagan. (was Re: Communism, Communist 
propagandists in the US...still..to this day.) ("Tom Wilson")
  Re: Am I ****? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000 (Donn Miller)
  Re: hmm getting tired of this! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: IA32, was an advocacy rant (Rick C. Hodgin)
  Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) (Chad Everett)
  Re: To Eric FunkenBush (The Ghost In The Machine)
  Re: Why left-wing communist assholes hate Reagan.  (was Re:    ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: hmm getting tired of this! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Why left-wing communist assholes hate Reagan.  (was Re: Communism,  Communist 
propagandists in the US...still..to this day.) (The Ghost In The Machine)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roy Culley)
Subject: Re: Linux is for the lazy
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:56:49 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine) writes:
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Brian Langenberger
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  wrote
> on Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:08:24 +0000 (UTC)
> <9bhioo$ms8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>After some deliberation, I've come to the conclusion that Linux
>>(and Unices in general) are built by the lazy, for the lazy.
> 
> Lazy -- and ingenious.
> 
>>As proof of this, let's look through the whole gamut of
>>UI tools.
>>
>>First of all, notice that the most commonly-used shell commands 
>>are two letters long (cd, ls, mv, cp, and so forth).  Why not
>>"list", or "move", or "copy"?  Because that's too many letters
>>to type, and so laziness prevails.
> 
> A number of issues arise here; one of them is in fact laziness.
> Two letters "mv" as opposed to four("move")or six("rename").
> Ditto for "cp".  Great for touch typists.
> 
> However, there's also the issue of "word memory".  To put it
> simply, the "word" "mv" is far less likely to be confusing
> because it has precisely one meaning -- namely, "move an object
> on a Unix system".  If one is presented with a "MOVE" or "COPY",
> one has to now think a little more.  Quick, what options does
> "MOVE" have?  Does it move files or directories?  Or is it referring
> to an obscure terrorist group, an action done once every 5 (3?) years
> or so by most Americans, or a simple generic translation from one point
> to another in an abstract coordinate space?

Well and there I was believing that it was because they used ASR33's or
some other slow paper teletype kind of thing. Now why they dropped the
trailing 'e' from the creat() system call is going to extremes. :-)

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From: "Tom Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: rec.photo.digital,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Am I ****? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:51:05 -0500

Hear, Hear.



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From: "Tom Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: rec.photo.digital,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Am I ****? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:54:46 -0500

He didn't try to impress his morality on anyone. He merely expressed the
idea shared by many of us: polite society abhors idiots like him.



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From: "Tom Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: rec.photo.digital,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Am I ****? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:56:46 -0500

I don't think the had sexual intercourse with his camera; I think the idiot
just didn't have enough sense to read the system requirements list.



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From: "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Why left-wing communist assholes hate Reagan. (was Re: Communism, 
Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.)
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:58:46 GMT


"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Tom Wilson wrote:
> >
> > "Mathew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What the fuck would Democrats do if blacks were educated and
could
> > > > > > provide for themselves?
> >
> > The welfare state has been maintained for blacks and the poor, by that
> > party, as a weapon - Oppress them, promise them better schools and job
> > opportunities, then blame their current maliase on the opposition every
four
> > years. Its' the Democratic Party Election Recipe. The "leaders" of the
black
> > community are a party to it too. Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, and the
like
> > have made fortunes from it. Of the well educated blacks I know (There
are
> > many), they find it disgusting. However, they aren't an effective voice
in
> > their own communities because they are labeled as sell-outs to the white
> > establishment or "Uncle Tom's".
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > Well FDR   helped black people in the depression ers  south
purchase
> > cotton
> > > > > mills with low interest loans,so they could run a business and
> > > > > provide for themselves;of course he was called a Communist by
> > Republicans
> > > > > of his time.
> > > >
> > > > If you think that *THAT* is the basis for FDR being called a
communist,
> > > > then you really have your head up your ass.
> > >
> > > FDR was no more a Communist than Richard Nixon was opening relations
with
> > > Red China.The Red Chinese did more killing than the Soviets did and
still
> > > excute political prisoners and have been noted as selling their body
parts
> > > at a high price.
> >
> > The Communist label slapped on FDR had more to do with massive
government
> > expansion and pervasiveness as well as his three term presidency. Most
of
> > the government controls and programs instituted were supposed to be
> > temporary, to get the country back on its' feet after the depression.
They
>
> Actually, non-Keynesian economists (especially those of the "Austrian
> Economics" school of thought) now believe that FDR's policies actually
> prolonged the depression.
>
> For more info on Austrian Economics, see http://wwww.vonmises.org/

As far as economics are concerned, France took the best action - none. Their
markets corrected themselves. FDR's accomplishments stand out more for their
social and psychological value than anything. The programs, themselves,
weren't overly harmful and they put quite a few people back to work doing
some  constructive and needed things. The harm came later as those programs
and controls persisted into the modern day.

>
> > did their job splendedly and for that, he's to be commended.
Unfortunately
> > once goverment is given control of something, its' a damned safe bet
you'll
> > never get it back again. Most of those programs have been money pits and
pow
> > er bases ever since.
>
> Their true purpose was the same as any other socialist program....to
> take lots of money out of the private sector.

Amen to that (Just gave them a healthy chunk of dough and am none too happy
about it.)





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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:59:33 -0400
From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: rec.photo.digital,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Am I ****? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000

Jim Knowles wrote:
> 
> Who said anything about kids? It's me - I don't want to read that stuff. As
> for kill-filing as a "solution" to gratuitous rudeness and stupidity, it's a
> failure: you can't "kill-file" people like ignoramus until the damage is
> already done.

Ah, but you CAN killfile articles with certain foul words that appear in
the subject line.  That way, you would never see it.


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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: hmm getting tired of this!
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:01:11 -0400

Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> 
> No corporate's piss in NZ party's pockets.  Any wiff of corporates
> supporting parties, and I can promise you, the party will not win the
> election.  Also, we don't have a pollution problem here.  Admittedly,


so, basically, what you're saying is that campaign donations from
anybody employed by a corporation are illegal?


> our major export is agriculture,however, we do have industry.  The
> Environmental Ministry comes down on any companies flaunting the law.
> Constant testing is done, and any companies that do breach the law are
> severally punished.
> 
> Matthew Gardiner
> 
> --
> I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
> 
> If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself
> 
> Running SuSE Linux 7.1
> 
> The best of German engineering, now in software form


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

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        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: Rick C. Hodgin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.arch
Subject: Re: IA32, was an advocacy rant
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:03:40 -0500

>To be amazingly pedantic, I beleive you could decode status to separate
>out accesses according to class, ie., separate the data from the code space, etc.
>This could be used to expand the address space beyond 1mb.

What do you mean?  All addresses would still be within the 1MB limit.

- Rick C. Hodgin


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 14 Apr 2001 22:35:45 -0500

On Sat, 14 Apr 2001 21:16:52 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Chad Everett wrote:
>> 
>> On 14 Apr 2001 17:46:36 GMT, Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >billh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>"T. Max Devlin"
>> >>
>> >>> >The truer translation is "You shall not murder".  We've been through
>> >>this.
>> >>>
>> >>> I thought it was "you shall not slay."  How do you know which it is?
>> >>
>> >>Take your pick.  Killing in war is neither illegal, unethical, nor immoral.
>> >
>> >And here´s something, in your own words that may clear why you are full
>> >of odorous remainders of the digestive process:
>> >
>> >"killing in war is not illegal".
>> >
>> >a) That is not true in general
>> >b) That requires some standard: "law" against which it can be declared
>> >   "legal" does it not?
>> >
>> >In 3000BC, the standard included massive rape of the women of the defeated
>> >and mass sacrifices of the defeated soldiers.
>> >
>> 
>> Well that's not true at all.  Show us an example in 3000BC where
>> massive rape of the defeated women occurred.  Since you throw
>> out such blatantly false statements as fact, everything you
>> say is questionable.
>
>Standard practice in Europe right up until medieval times.
>

I wanted an example from 3000BC, since that what he said.  I believe
he was trying to imply that the Israelites did this.  I was calling
him on it.




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Subject: Re: To Eric FunkenBush
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:07:37 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Erik Funkenbusch
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 wrote
on Sat, 14 Apr 2001 23:52:22 -0500
<6O9C6.3234$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>"GreyCloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>> >
>> > "Chad Everett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > > On Sat, 14 Apr 2001 03:24:16 -0500, Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > wrote:
>> > > >Your example uses templates.  That is most likely the issue, not the
>MI.
>> > VC
>> > > >is a pre-standard compiler, and as such cannot be expected to conform
>to
>> > a
>> > > >standard that did not exist when it was written.
>> > >
>> > > And what is amazing is that Microsoft does not have plans to ever
>release
>> > > a standards compliant C/C++ compiler.
>> >
>> > Why do you bitch about MS?  *NOBODY* has released a fully conformant
>> > compiler yet.
>> >
>> > VC7 will conform in almost all ways except Partial Template
>Specialization
>> > and the export keyword.
>>
>> Which makes it almost useless in a general production environment.
>
>For some, but as of today, very few people even use the STL, much less their
>own templates.

Sez you.  Personally, I think the STL is a very well-engineered idea,
although as usual Microsoft, by actually implementing it to spec,
bodged it somehow. :-)  It turns out MSVC++ 6.0, or the header files
compled thereby, want std:: everywhere, unless one wants 'using
namespace std;' near the top of his programs.  As far as I understand
it, this is to perfect spec, but it is annoying.

Then again, g++ is freeware; just because it's freeware doesn't
mean it's perfect.  I'm not even sure g++ and gdb interact correctly
on Linux yet -- I've had gdb think it's deep in string.h when it's
actually somewhere else.  How I report that as a bug, I don't know.
I can't reproduce it on tiny programs.  And of course g++ and std::
don't get along well for some reason.

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
EAC code #191       1d:00h:52m actually running Linux.
                    >>> Make Signatures Fast! <<<

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why left-wing communist assholes hate Reagan.  (was Re:   
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:12:30 -0400

Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 03:37:54 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> 
> >> > Very true.  Not a bad place for a non-Moslem, but only if you're married.
> >>
> >> I thought you were a fan of "freedom". Do they have any of that in Saudi
> >> Arabia ?
> >
> > More than you would think.
> 
> http://www.state.gov/www/global/human_rights/1997_hrp_report/saudiara.html
> 
> I agree, it is better than you would think. Contrary to what you
> suggest, they don't stone people (execution is by beheading or firing
> squad)

Actually, they still do.  They use a front-end loader, and dump a couple
of tons of rock on the condemned.

It's quite instantaneous.


> 
> Note I've tried to find a
> relatively impartial source (not a human rights lobby page). It seems
> their system is less corrupt than many others. However, there are some
> points worthy of mention (especially since you're so fond of "freedom":)
> 
> On free press:
> ----
>  The Government severely limits freedom of speech and of the press. The
>  authorities do not countenance criticism of Islam, the ruling family, or the
>  Government. Persons whose criticisms align them with an organized political
>  opposition are subject to arrest and detention until they confess their crime
>  or sign a statement promising not to resume such criticisms, which is
>  tantamount to a confession.
>  ...
>  ...
>  Newspapers typically publish news on sensitive subjects, such as crime or
>  terrorism, only after it has been released by the SPA or when it has been
>  authorized by a senior government official
>   ...
>  The Government tightly restricts the entry of foreign journalists into the
>  Kingdom.
>  ...
>  Academic freedom is restricted. The authorities prohibit the study of
>  evolution, Freud, Marx, Western music, and Western philosophy.
> 
> ----
> 
> On Women's rights:
> 
> It's amusing that you suggest that women there are treated better -- they can't
> drive, and can't go anywhere without a mans permission. THey can't pursue
> a career of choice. Read it and weep ...

Crimes against women are FAR lower...primarily because women there
don't go around pretending to be men.


> ----
>  Government policy permits women to attend cultural and social events at
>  diplomatic chanceries and residences only if they are accompanied by a father,
>  brother, or husband.
>  ...
>  The Government restricts the travel of Saudi women, who must obtain written
>  permission from their closest male relative before the authorities will allow
>  them to board public transportation between different parts of the country or
>  travel abroad
>  ...
>  Women, including foreigners, may not legally drive motor vehicles and are
>  restricted in their use of public facilities when men are present. Women must
>  enter city buses by separate rear entrances and sit in specially designated
>  Sections. Women risk arrest by the Mutawwa'in for riding in a vehicle driven
>  by a male who is not an employee or a close male relative. Women are not
>  admitted to a hospital for medical treatment without the consent of a male
>  relative.
> ...
>  Women have access to free, but segregated, education through the university
>  level. They constitute 55 percent of all university graduates but are excluded
>  from studying subjects such as engineering, journalism, and architecture. Men
>  may study overseas; women may do so only if accompanied by a spouse or an
>  immediate male relative.
> ----
> 
> On democracy:
> ---
>  Citizens do not have the right to change their government. There are no formal
>  democratic institutions, and only a few citizens have a voice in the choice of
>  leaders or in changing the political system.
> ---
> 
> On Freedom of religion
> ---
>  Freedom of religion does not exist. Islam is the official religion, and all
>  citizens must be Muslims. The Government prohibits the public practice of
>  other religions.
> 
>  Conversion by a Muslim to another religion is considered apostasy. Public
>  apostasy is a crime under Shari'a law and punishable by death
> ---
> 
> --
> Donovan Rebbechi * http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/ *
> elflord at panix dot com


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

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K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: hmm getting tired of this!
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:15:49 -0400

The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
> 
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Matthew Gardiner
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  wrote
> on Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:45:09 +1200
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> ><snype>
> >
> >I sometime wonder whether they just cut the crap and call it "Linux
> >2000", because everytime I have looked at the mag (which is right next
> >to "Linux Journal"), it has atleast one article about Linux in it.  The
> >funniest part was a rant by one of the columnists who comments on NT
> >failings, and used the likes of BeOS and Linux as OS's which have got it
> >right the first time.
> 
> Except that it's not clear they did.  Linux builds on Unix technology,
> tried and true stuff with a proven philosophy and large code base.
> This isn't "right the first time", this is "improvement by trial and
> error", or perhaps "evolution".  (Not that that's a bad thing.)
> 
> As for BeOS, I couldn't say.  I haven't used it.

Unlike Crime-o-soft, most of the foundation-level protocols used in
Unix were put before public, academic and professional reveiw BEFORE
being implemented.



> 
> [.sigsnip]
> 
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
> EAC code #191       1d:14h:11m actually running Linux.
>                     Hi.  I'm a signature virus.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

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   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To: 
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Why left-wing communist assholes hate Reagan.  (was Re: Communism,  
Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.)
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:20:40 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Aaron R. Kulkis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 wrote
on Sun, 15 Apr 2001 14:56:00 -0400
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Bloody Viking wrote:
>> 
>> Organization: Ripco Internet Services- Chicago
>> Distribution:
>> X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]
>> 
>> Joseph T. Adams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> 
>> : According to left-wing communist assholes, anyone who tries to
>> : dismantle or reform any important part of the welfare state is not
>> : only eeeevil, bur racist, because left-wing communist assholes want us
>> : to believe they're the only ones who can "help" poor Black and
>> : Hispanic people, and that without this "help," they could not possibly
>> : survive.
>> 
>> Fun problem: Our monetary policy ensures that we can never have full
>> employment. Since we have a policy of intentional unemployment, it
>> is morally unacceptable to not have some kind of welfare system. We
>> can quibble about how a welfare system should be implimented, but one
>> is needed in a regime of intentional unemployment to cut inflation.
>
>Idiotic Keynesian policies are not only fully discredited, but but
>have been ignored by both the Republican Congress AND Alan Greenspan.
>
>That's why unemployment has been so low lately.  Hell, in Detroit,
>they fast food places will pay a high school kid, with zero experience,
>$9.00 + benefits JUST TO START

Same here -- I've seen sign adverts.  Not lately, though.  Maybe
the slowdown is beginning to have an impact (I hope not).

>
>
>
>> 
>> The GOP wants to have its cake and eat it too by having a monetary
>> policy of intentional unemployment and not having any kind of
>> welfare system. The GOP
>
>
>No..New England Republicans (most of whom are demoncrooks but
>won't admit it) want the keynesian monetary policy AND the
>fucking welfare state.
>
>The rest of the GOP is getting rid of both.  Thanks to Alan
>Greenspan, it might just be possible.

Not to mention Dubya. :-)

>
>> will get their wish, but they should be careful about what they
>> wish for.  That's becuse of the upcoming global oil production
>> peak aka Oil Max-Out. In a regime of a permanent oil shortage
>> that worsens over time, government will lose power as it's
>> ENERGY that makes government power. After all, you need
>> energy to fuel the cop cars.
>
>No...we'll merely shut down the oil-fired boilers for electric plants
>and replace them with Nuclear....like we should have done 30 years ago.

With our luck, we'll run out of nuclear power in 35 (25?  10??) years,
because everyone will be so afraid of breeder reactors breeding
plutonium bombs.

(Idiocy, I know.)

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