Linux-Advocacy Digest #695, Volume #30 Wed, 6 Dec 00 20:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: Nobody wants Linux because it destroys hard disks. (David Dorward)
Re: LINUX ROCKS AND WINDOWS SUCKS (kiwiunixman)
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Windows review ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Microsoft Light Bulb Part 2 (kiwiunixman)
Re: LINUX ROCKS AND WINDOWS SUCKS ("the_blur")
Re: OS Installation Help? (kiwiunixman)
Re: Linux is awful ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux is awful ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux is awful ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Of course, there is a down side... ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Nobody wants Linux because it destroys hard disks. ("MH")
Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever (Bob Hauck)
Re: LINUX ROCKS AND WINDOWS SUCKS (Bob Hauck)
Re: Linux is awful (Bob Hauck)
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux is awful ("MH")
Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever (Curtis)
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From: David Dorward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Nobody wants Linux because it destroys hard disks.
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 00:11:03 +0000
Swango wrote:
> Windows 2000 rocks and Linux is a sluggard if ever there was one. I
> tried Redhat and took the server install option and it promptly wiped
> out my entire hard disk. Fortunately I had a backup but what if I
> didn't?
I don't use RedHat myself, but didn't it warn you? The instructions
certainly should have done.
Common sense says that you should make a backup before you do any major
change on your computer.
> Even after that Rocky Horror Show, using Linux is like moving back in
> time about 10 years in the computer world. My scanner, printer, and
> USB camera don't work. My Cdrw gives errors all the time although it
> seems to burn fine. My cordless mouse doesn't work properly and I find
> kde to be sluggish even on a 600 mhz system with 256 megabites of
> memory.
On the other hand all of my hardware is supported, the only exception being
my DVD drive (although I could have a hunt for DeCSS if I were willing to
risk lots of (c)s being fired at me. To be more accurate the DVD drive is
supported as its just a big CDROM drive (in effect) but encrypted DVD Movie
discs aren't supported.
USB camera support is available for some models with the 2.4 kernel (or 2.2
with a back patch). http://www.gphoto.org/
KDE is a massive piece of software, I prefer Gnome and Enlighenment - also
massive. And far more responsible then Windows (installed for duel booting
for DVDs).
> Windows 2000 is so much better and from what I have seen Whistler is
> going to be even better than Windows 2000.
I've used Windows 2000, and hated it. Not even the most ardent Microsoft
lover I know uses it. His disc sites in its box and the machine he set up
last week has NT4 on it.
> Back to Windows for me and maybe I will look at Linux sometime down
> the road, but for now it's a coaster.
I'll stick to AOL and Compuserv discs for that.
> I can see why Linux is free, because they would never get out of court
> if they charged people for this tripe.
http://www.gnu.org/
The only people I know who don't like linux are those not willing to put
any effort at all in to getting it working.
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From: kiwiunixman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LINUX ROCKS AND WINDOWS SUCKS
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 00:14:42 GMT
<snip>
>
> Actually, this is interesting in that it is the first time in
> decades that a youth-appeal movement has been organized
> AGAINST a communist government.
Youths with too much bloody time on their hands. They should be back
studying instead of getting into an area they have absolutely no
knowledge about. It is very easy for western cultures (such as New
Zealand and the US) to look at China as a "oppressive state", yet none
of these so-called do-gooders actually know anything about the Asian
(esp. Chinese) culture, that is the one reason why the mission in
Vietnam was a total and utter failure, the lack of understand the
vietnamese culture.
kiwiunixman
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 19:15:43 -0500
Steve Mading wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Bill Vermillion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> : And what about case differences in vi between a,A or o,O and
> : p,P. Definatetly not intuitive - but I like it for the speed.
>
> I don't see it as any different than noting that, say, F4 and shift-F4
> are two different things.
>
> : You wind up with cases like this:
> : Woops. Missed the O and hit the 0. Now why did my cursor jump
> : all the way to first of the line?
>
> Because you hit the wrong key. This isn's a modal vs non-modal thing.
> The same sort of "problem", if you can call it that, exists in other
> editors if you for example hit 'home' instead of 'insert', which are
> also right next to each other.
>
> :>In this regard, VI
> :>really shines, even though it isn't very similar to *other* editors.
> :>Once you know part of the VI commands, the rest work in similar ways.
>
> : vi will sometimes suprise you - as it does me. Get out of sync
> : and go to insert a number and find that the number preceded a
> : commands. So I just wait until it finishes duplicating that
> : one paragraphs 100 times :-( - and then hit U.
>
> This isn't a case of being inconsistant, though. It's a case of not
> having enough context information to tell you what you are doing
> until its too late. Vi is extremely consistent here - you told
> it to do the following action 100 times, and that action was to
> insert the big paragraph you just finished typing. The problem was
> in having no visual cues that you were in "do this 100 times" mode.
> (I think that should be something that appears on the status line
> at the bottom: "Composing action to repeat N times".)
There's a simple solution to all of this.
If in doubt, hit the escape key. This puts you in command mode.
Then hit type "i" to begin inserting at your current location.
Problem solved.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Windows review
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 19:16:25 -0500
"Brian V. Smith" wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JM) writes:
>
> |> >The cards I've seen at Office Depot are a little over a dollar a megabyte.
> |>
> |> And you call that cheap? That would mean 128MB would cost about
> |> $130!!!
>
> Big deal. That IS cheap. Several years ago 128MB would have cost MUCH more.
> --
Remember when 16K cost US $500?
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Brian V. Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www-epb.lbl.gov/BVSmith
> Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
> I don't speak for LBL; they don't pay me enough for that.
> Check out the xfig site at http://www-epb.lbl.gov/xfig
>
> To the optimist, the glass is half full. To the pessimist, the
> glass is half empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big
> as it needs to be.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: kiwiunixman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft Light Bulb Part 2
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 00:16:59 GMT
While you Windows programmers are still trying to figure out the Win32
API, Linux programmers have finished their program's and have time to
reply to posts at COLA.
kiwiunixman
Donal K. Fellows wrote:
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
>> All of this discussion about Microsoft renting apps with .NET
>> got me to thinking...what are we facing if, in fact, Microsoft
>> does start renting apts???
>
> [...]
>
> You have *waaaay* too much time on your hands. Surely you could try
> writing a new application for Linux in the time it took to write up
> that little document? Still, I liked it very much! :^)
>
> Donal.
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From: "the_blur" <the_blur_oc@*removespamguard*hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: LINUX ROCKS AND WINDOWS SUCKS
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 19:15:59 -0500
> What I was trying to say, was that just because bill gates plans of
> giving billions to charity doesn't mean he's kind, he's just got a LOT
> of money. He's still going to have more than anyone else could ever
> imagine.
What would make him kind then? Paying bullshit lip service to charities?
Kindness is DEEDS not WORDS. I'm trying to hammer that through your 3" thick
skull but you don't seem to realize. You also don't seem to realize that IT
IS IRRELEVANT HOW MUCH TOTAL MONEY HE HAS. Why is his total fortune so
important t you? Are you sour because you're too lazy/incompetent to make a
fortune the way he did? I can't figure it out, but all it seems to me is
that you're bitter because he has all that money and you...don't.
Let me put it to you this way...what makes more difference in the world, a
pauper with 50 cents to his name "donating" it so his buddy can buy a donut
(thus becoming peniless). Or old Bill donating 4 million dollars of food to
a mission (and then taking the Lear Jet/Yacht/Aston Martin for a spin). Both
acts are kind, but morality aside, I'd say 4 million buys a hell of a lot
more donuts (feeding a hell of a lot more people) than 50 cents.
Doing this makes him kinder in my mind than a whole lot of people. I haven't
heard Apple, Sun, any dot com, or any LINUX company donating this much to
charity, let alone one person.
Anyway, you can bitch and rant about windows all you want, but stop ragging
on old Bill until you donate 21 million and one dollars to charity in the
space of a year.
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From: kiwiunixman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OS Installation Help?
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 00:22:54 GMT
Can't find the dimensions my suppliers website, however, I would say it
would be 4-5cm high.
kiwiunixman
JM wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Dec 2000 06:45:05 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> (kiwiunixman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>
>
>> An 80gig driver is only around $NZ1100 (around $US400).
>
>
> Hos big is it?
>
>
>> kiwiunixman
>>
>> JM wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Mon, 04 Dec 2000 23:48:42 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
>>> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'm expecting to get a new hard drive in the next few weeks :) Let's
>>>> say it's an 80 gig drive.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jesus Christ! How much is that going to cost?
>>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Linux is awful
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 18:26:08 -0600
On Wed, 06 Dec 2000 16:03:00 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Davey)
wrote:
>Actually most of these posts are coming from experience, the vast majority of
>Linux people have Windows experience.
In that case, the people who keep posting that Windows won't run for
more than a few days at a time are lying, instead of ignorant.
--
Stephen Whitis
Email replies should go to...
scw120198 (at) whitis.com
The address in the header is not valid.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Linux is awful
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 18:27:46 -0600
On Wed, 06 Dec 2000 18:00:47 GMT, Uncle Fester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> You linux assholes who
>> post pure lies like "Windows won't run more than a few days
>> at a time" are full of shit. You are sitting there with your head
>> stuck under the ground, trying to tell people what the world is
>> like. Those of us who aren't hiding can look and see that the
>> world is nothing like you claim.
>
>
>Then you never use your Windows machine much. Try this:
Bull shit. More lies. Why are you opposed to the truth?
--
Stephen Whitis
Email replies should go to...
scw120198 (at) whitis.com
The address in the header is not valid.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Linux is awful
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 18:28:48 -0600
On Wed, 06 Dec 2000 13:04:27 -0500, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Most of use are IT professionals who live daily listening
>to the pissing and moaning of Windows admins and their
>constant rat-race of rebooting and re-installing and
>reformating ...
I'm an IT professional. Windows isn't as flakey as you guys want
to pretend.
--
Stephen Whitis
Email replies should go to...
scw120198 (at) whitis.com
The address in the header is not valid.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Of course, there is a down side...
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 19:37:35 -0500
JM wrote:
>
> On Wed, 6 Dec 2000 15:20:19 +0200, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> ("Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>
> >"JM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> >Exactly 10 shortcuts key. :)
> >>
> >> 2.
>
> >You forgot to qoute this:
> >...there are[shortcut keys] in my notepad (win2000) there aren't on the 9x
> >notepad
>
> I'm using 98, what does a notepad on 2000 mean to me? Compare it to a
> text editor on a Unix machine two years ago.
Hell, compare Notepad to a text editor on a Unix machine 15 years ago.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 19:38:50 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Bill Vermillion writes:
>
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> >>> The ATX power _switch_, on the other hand, is counter-intuitive.
> >>> How do you switch OFF the computer? Is that really OFF (i.e.
> >>> disconnected from the main sockets electrically)?
>
> >> I'm not familiar with the ATX.
>
> > ATX is a board form factor. ATX power supplies are normally not
> > really off. There is a trickle so that the system 'goes to sleep'
> > with minimal power until you press a keyboard, it is accessed via a
> > network [wake on LAN feature] or a modem dial in [wake on Modem].
> >
> > The latter two typically have a jumper so that the Lan card or the
> > modem tickles the computer, the power supply and computer fires up
> > in full mode. It's an always-on system but in doze mode power
> > consumption is very low. In the single digit percentage ranges.
>
> Not exactly uncommon. When my VCR is "off", it's still on by
> enough to keep a clock running and monitor its programming to
> determine whether to turn "on" (or should I say "more on") and
> record a program. Doesn't make the power switch any less
> intuitive.
Other than the LABEL that says power, please describe the
IMMEDIATELY ASCERTAINABLE difference between a power switch
and some other 2-position switch.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "MH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Nobody wants Linux because it destroys hard disks.
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 19:41:58 -0500
"kiwiunixman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> USB and cordless mice. Question, how many users out in computer land do
> you believe have a cordless mouse? very few and far between, Linux is
> built for the mass's, not the minority with the most obscure hardware,
> and if you want support, why don't you contribute to the source code?
snipped............
You really think no one uses cordless mice? But that's not really the
problem with your post. What is most telling is where you tell us Linux is
built for the masses, or was it mass's...whatever... then in the same breath
tell this poster to contribute to the source code. I suppose the mass of
people who use computers should be able to write application source? Oh my.
> > Windows 2000 is so much better and from what I have seen Whistler is
> > going to be even better than Windows 2000.
> Have you tried it? I have, and believe me, after 1 year in the great
> Microsoft think-tank I thought they might of actually come out with
> something a little more revolutionary.
Yeah, I hear you. I would have thought after 3 years in the think tank that
Mozilla could have come up with something that WORKED better than the
product they started with.
> Go back to you sheltered life under the
> window whilst the rest of society moves forward
Careful...you're real close to winning Joe Linux Advocate of the week for
the 3rd week in a row!!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever
Reply-To: bobh{at}haucks{dot}org
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 00:43:42 GMT
On Wed, 6 Dec 2000 01:44:14 -0600, Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Bob Hauck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> On Tue, 5 Dec 2000 01:35:53 -0600, Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>>
>> >Actually, no. The keyboard driver has nothing to do with it. C-A-D is a
>> >hardware reset, not a software one.
>>
>> No it isn't. It is just another key combination that the BIOS handles
>I stand corrected. However, you can't replace the keyboard driver unless
>you have permissions to do so.
Yes, if someone can replace the keyboard driver, any further attempts
at security are pretty meaningless. I agree that the secure attention
key idea does have some merit as far as assuring that what you're
looking at is really a login screen.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: LINUX ROCKS AND WINDOWS SUCKS
Reply-To: bobh{at}haucks{dot}org
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 00:43:47 GMT
On Wed, 6 Dec 2000 00:55:55 -0500, the_blur
<the_blur_oc@*removespamguard*hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes and I bet you believe he will be PENNY LESS after this,
>> joing the church and become a nun in India!
>
>Of course not, but charity being what it is, and capitalism being what it
>is, never forget that he's giving a hell of a lot more than we are and
>helping a hell of a lot more people than we are AND HE'S NOT OBLIGATED IN
>ANY WAY TO DO SO. Get it? He gives because he's a nice guy.
Maybe he is nice, maybe not. I never met him. But when you're as rich
as The Bill, the tax man wanteth a lot. You can give it to him to
spend it on what the government likes, or you can give it away to
charities that you like. Most people would prefer to do that latter I
think. So there are in fact incentives for philantropy in our mondo
captialist utopia.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Linux is awful
Reply-To: bobh{at}haucks{dot}org
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 00:43:45 GMT
On Wed, 06 Dec 2000 09:29:51 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm here to learn linux, but I've spent far more time running MS
>software. I rarely reboot except when I install software, which means
>my system tends to run weeks and sometimes months at a time,
>running win98.
But you probably shut it off every night. When Unix people say it
"ran for x months without a reboot", then usually mean that it ran
continuously without being shut off.
Just a point of information.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 19:45:24 -0500
Steve Mading wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> : [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> :>>> Everyone has to "consult the manual" (or a friend, or the
> :>>> on-line help) at some point early in their learning process.
>
> :>> I know some first-time computer users that did not need to
> :>> consult the manual or a friend to know what to do with the
> :>> power cord, for example.
>
> :> That's because they're already familiar with how to handle a power
> :> cord when they dealt with hundreds (if not thousands) of other
> :> electrical appliances.
>
> : Precisely what helps to make something intuitive, contrary to Aaron's
> : claim.
>
> Something being similar to itself isn't the kind of intuitive you've
> been talking about though, as you pointed out when I tried bringing
> up vi's internal consistency. So you seem to be talking about
> things being similar to *other* things. Pointing out that power cords
> are similar to power cords isn't going to prove your point then.
> You've got to show how power cords are similar to things that aren't
> power cords.
Forget it. Tholen is too fucking STUPID to comprehend any of this.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "MH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is awful
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 19:49:13 -0500
"kiwiunixman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> <snip>
>
> if civilisation worked the way you do then we would still be in the
> stone age. You're probably the same type of person who can't even setup
> their VCR correctly for christ's sake! and need a "technician" to
> install a TV antenna!
>
> Read some books, you may acutally find that you brain may start to
> functioning once your away from the idiot box (TV).
>
> kiwiunixman
I'd comment...but your post speaks volumes all by its lonesome...
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From: Curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 19:49:46 -0500
. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
| > Here's a tip in return: In Word 2000, avoid turning on change
| > tracking in a large document that has a table of contents.
| > It is so slow it's like your system froze.
|
| Here's a tip in return: When working with Office 2000, it is so slow
| it's like your system froze.
And the tip in return to that. If Office 2000 runs so slow that your
system seems to freeze it's time to get a Pentium.
--
Curtis
| ,__o
!___ _-\_<, An egotist thinks he's in the groove
<(*)>--(*)/'(*)______________________ when he's in a rut.
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