Linux-Advocacy Digest #774, Volume #30 Sat, 9 Dec 00 20:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: Microsoft using Linux (Perry Pip)
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Microsoft using Linux ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Uptimes strike back ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Uptimes (sfcybear)
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: What if Linux wasn't free? (jtnews)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Perry Pip)
Subject: Re: Microsoft using Linux
Date: 10 Dec 2000 00:27:10 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 12:55:34 +1200,
Adam Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi Charlie,
>
>The article has an interesting slant but it appears to be misguided.
>
>For example:
>
>"The irony here is that Microsoft can wait until the money-losing Linux
>companies finally perfect their upstart open-source operating system.
>That would let Microsoft leverage -- some would say hijack --
>every bit of the costly research and development done to date by the
>open-source software movement. Most Linux developers would
>probably be aghast at the notion that Microsoft will eventually be
>selling what they created. But the company has left more than a few
>would-be competitors aghast in the past."
>
>If Microsoft wants to pour funds into developing GNU/Linux then fantastic.
>The open source community can build upon all the GPLed software they create
>and leverage it for their own use as well.
>
>And statements like: "Most Linux developers would probably be aghast at the
>notion that Microsoft will eventually be selling what they created" are just
>misinformed. I'm sure MOST Linux developers are actually aware of what an
>open source license means. It would be very hard to hijack GPLed software.
>Sure you can hijack software licensed under the BSD license (because you
>can't force the person making "improvements" to freely release the source
>code) but thankfully the Linux kernel and a lot of the core software is
>GPLed.
>
I hate to sound pessimistic but Microsoft has 1000 times the money to
spend on lawers than O.J. Simpson had, or what the prez candidates
have. And considering the way some Judges have ruled recently it's
obvious they can easily be bought. So MS can unfortunately do
whatever they want with GPL'd code.
Except, of course, make serious improvements to it. They haven't got
the talent or skill to do that ;)
Perry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 00:30:09 GMT
Aaron R. Kulkis writes:
> Joe Malloy wrote:
>> The Tholen tholes:
>>>> I haven't seen any microwaves with an on/off button lately.
>>> Okay then, "Start/Stop", if you must be pedantic.
>> Whoa, this is the pot calling the kettle black! Pedantic to the
>> point of silliness, Tholen now turns around and uses pedanticism as
>> an attack. Great going, Tholen, you're really low on the
>> consistency list now!
> There's a reason why Tholen, in 12 years, has never budged from
> the TOP of my list as "GODDAMN STUPIDEST FUCKING IDIOT ON USENET"
Namely you're too afraid to admit the truth.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 00:31:40 GMT
Aaron R. Kulkis writes:
> Joe Malloy wrote:
>> Tholen tholes:
>>>> Silly me, I thought I was talking about text editors, not signs.
>>> Something wrong with a simple analogy to help illustrate a point?
>> Wattsamatta, Tholen, you don't like being called on the carpet for
>> an inappropriate "analogy"?
> No...what he objects to is the fact that ... Steve was right.
Right about what, allegedly? There were several issues discussed,
mostly diversions from the original issue, namely your ridiculous
claim that nothing about computers is intuitive.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 00:32:59 GMT
Marty writes:
> Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>> Joe Malloy wrote:
>>> The Tholen tholes:
>>>>> I haven't seen any microwaves with an on/off button lately.
>>>> Okay then, "Start/Stop", if you must be pedantic.
>>> Whoa, this is the pot calling the kettle black! Pedantic to the
>>> point of silliness, Tholen now turns around and uses pedanticism as
>>> an attack. Great going, Tholen, you're really low on the
>>> consistency list now!
>> There's a reason why Tholen, in 12 years, has never budged from
>> the TOP of my list as "GODDAMN STUPIDEST FUCKING IDIOT ON USENET"
> Has he really been at it for TWELVE YEARS?!
Of course not, Marty. Aaron is simply another in a series of liars.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 19:40:05 -0500
Marty wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > Joe Malloy wrote:
> > >
> > > The Tholen tholes:
> > >
> > > > > I haven't seen any microwaves with an on/off button lately.
> > > >
> > > > Okay then, "Start/Stop", if you must be pedantic.
> > >
> > > Whoa, this is the pot calling the kettle black! Pedantic to the
> > > point of silliness, Tholen now turns around and uses pedanticism as
> > > an attack. Great going, Tholen, you're really low on the
> > > consistency list now!
> >
> > There's a reason why Tholen, in 12 years, has never budged from
> > the TOP of my list as "GODDAMN STUPIDEST FUCKING IDIOT ON USENET"
>
> Has he really been at it for TWELVE YEARS?!
At least.
I first came across the anencephelac around 1988...
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft using Linux
Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 19:43:29 -0500
Perry Pip wrote:
>
> On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 12:55:34 +1200,
> Adam Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Hi Charlie,
> >
> >The article has an interesting slant but it appears to be misguided.
> >
> >For example:
> >
> >"The irony here is that Microsoft can wait until the money-losing Linux
> >companies finally perfect their upstart open-source operating system.
> >That would let Microsoft leverage -- some would say hijack --
> >every bit of the costly research and development done to date by the
> >open-source software movement. Most Linux developers would
> >probably be aghast at the notion that Microsoft will eventually be
> >selling what they created. But the company has left more than a few
> >would-be competitors aghast in the past."
> >
> >If Microsoft wants to pour funds into developing GNU/Linux then fantastic.
> >The open source community can build upon all the GPLed software they create
> >and leverage it for their own use as well.
> >
> >And statements like: "Most Linux developers would probably be aghast at the
> >notion that Microsoft will eventually be selling what they created" are just
> >misinformed. I'm sure MOST Linux developers are actually aware of what an
> >open source license means. It would be very hard to hijack GPLed software.
> >Sure you can hijack software licensed under the BSD license (because you
> >can't force the person making "improvements" to freely release the source
> >code) but thankfully the Linux kernel and a lot of the core software is
> >GPLed.
> >
>
> I hate to sound pessimistic but Microsoft has 1000 times the money to
> spend on lawers than O.J. Simpson had, or what the prez candidates
> have. And considering the way some Judges have ruled recently it's
> obvious they can easily be bought. So MS can unfortunately do
> whatever they want with GPL'd code.
DOJ has the manpower....and the time.
GPL is a legal copyright, with specific terms attached.
Violation of copyrights can be put into criminal court.
>
> Except, of course, make serious improvements to it. They haven't got
> the talent or skill to do that ;)
>
> Perry
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Uptimes strike back
Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 19:45:32 -0500
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> "Nigel Feltham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:90uf4f$1v4sd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >He also said the kernel prevented fragmentation.
> >
> > He said the kernel prevented memory fragmentation
> > not disk fragmentation.
>
> No, read it again. He said "Diskspace" is managed by the kernel (not
> memory) to prevent fragmentation from occuring in the first place.
If contigous space is available, then the kernal WILL write the
WHOLE file to a contigous space.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
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Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 19:48:13 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Aaron R. Kulkis writes:
>
> > Joe Malloy wrote:
>
> >> The Tholen tholes:
>
> >>>> I haven't seen any microwaves with an on/off button lately.
>
> >>> Okay then, "Start/Stop", if you must be pedantic.
>
> >> Whoa, this is the pot calling the kettle black! Pedantic to the
> >> point of silliness, Tholen now turns around and uses pedanticism as
> >> an attack. Great going, Tholen, you're really low on the
> >> consistency list now!
>
> > There's a reason why Tholen, in 12 years, has never budged from
> > the TOP of my list as "GODDAMN STUPIDEST FUCKING IDIOT ON USENET"
>
> Namely you're too afraid to admit the truth.
I just did, Tholen-dork.
You're the GODDAMN STUPIDEST FUCKING IDIOT ON ALL OF USENET
Compared to Tholen, the women of soc.feminism appear as bastions of reason.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: sfcybear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Uptimes
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 00:35:43 GMT
In article <2mzY5.86789$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Otto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "sfcybear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:90tmu4$m0i$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Snip...
>
> : > I'd argue the cost of commercial NT based web site. For less than
half
> : a
> : > million dollars, you could have the necessary hardware and
software.
> : People
> : > tend to forget that OEM servers come with 10 CALs for each
servers.
> : > Depending on the number of servers used, the CALs add upp in
hurry.
> : Add to
> : > the equation, that for the web users there is no licensing
> : requirement, then
> : > you can even drop some of the licenses on the OEM machines.
> : > Your recurring cost is way out of whack. Salaries are salaries,
> : regardless
> : > of the OS.
> :
> : Yeah, and the staff that needed to keep and unstable OS up and
running
> : if far greater than the staff needed to keep a stable OS up and
running.
> : Two sources now show evidance that W2K is not stable
>
> What evidence?
www.netcraft.com: Examples like comparing large ISP's:
Microsoft network (these folks should know how to run W2K)
http://uptime.netcraft.com/graph/?host=www.msn.com
Average uptime? 37 days
Unix at AOL?
http://uptime.netcraft.com/graph/?host=www.aol.com
Average uptime? 254 days
or barns and noble,
http://uptime.netcraft.com/graph?display=&site=www.bn.com
been working with W2K since March and they have finaly strung together
25 days straigt of uptime.
Even the best that anyone has shown, Starbucks:
http://uptime.netcraft.com/graph?display=uptime&site=www.starbucks.com
only got to 217 days of uptime (not even up to AOL's average). An has
not been stable since.
No one has been able to post any evidance that any W2K device is
reporting uptimes even currently getting near 1/2 the way to getting on
this list:
http://uptime.netcraft.com/today/top.avg.html
Second source
www.uptime.org
A post showing just how bad W2K is compared to Linux:
http://x76.deja.com/threadmsg_md.xp?thitnum=5&AN=702846300.1&mhitnum=6&CONTEXT=976374076.1878327313
>
> :
> : Uptime (with a little math to get past the fact that more linux
> : computers are listed in the report)
> :
> :
>
http://x76.deja.com/threadmsg_md.xp?thitnum=5&AN=702846300.1&mhitnum=6&CONTE
> XT=976374076.1878327313
>
> The www.uptime.net is not a report, just a project in which people can
> participate if they want to. The actual reporting is done over the
web,
> which in itself can render a participating server down if it isn't
reachable
> regardless if it's actually down or not. However, it does prove you
dead
> wrong about the Windows OS. Check out the number 101 in the active
host
> section at the uptime site. It's a Windows98 machine with the uptime
of 236
> days. Or how about number 11 with NT 4.0 OS having 658 days uptime.
WOW 2 NT boxes in the top 100! I'm not imressed! And 1 98 box with 236
days! compare that with the number of Linux boxes in the top 100!
even the boxes you have shown here are not appoaching this:
http://uptime.netcraft.com/today/top.avg.html
>
> : And www.netcraft.com
>
> Oh please, it has more holes in it than a swiss cheese...
PROOF? you have asked me, I have shown 2 that you have not dissproved.
>
> : Trying to keep an OS as unstable as W2K seems to be is very time
> : consuming, demanding more staff and more Salaries. So, not only is
Linux
> : cheaper to start with, the fact that it seems to be more stable than
W2K
> : goes a long way in showing that the staffing and thus the salaries
> : required for Linux is LESS thatn W2K. Linux looks like it is gaining
the
> : advantage of lower TCO as well as stability!
>
> Is Linux really cheaper than NT to use for a web site? That depends,
for a
> mom & pop site it's definetly the case. For a commercial web site
Linux is
> actually more expensive.
PROOF????? or just another unsupported claim from w2K supporters
Commercial entities will not build they own
Proof? I work for one that is converting to preinstalled Linux.
> servers, they will buy it from OEMs with OS. Ordering servers with
Linux is
> more expensive than servers with NT.
But the purchase price is only a small fraction of the cost (if the
above statemnet is true) Fixing and rebooting NT and W2K all the time
costs big bucks.
The other cost factors for a new web
> site, routers, firewalls, load balancing equipment, etc, are the same.
> That leaves the operating expenses, which you claim is less for Linux.
Or is
Linux firewall's routers .... the same? I think not.
> it? The monthly bandwidth, utility, and the rental costs are the same
> regardless of the OS. Salaries aren't much different either. One would
need
> at least 3 people, preferably 6 for the 24/7 coverage, on staff to
manage
> the web site. Remember, this isn't a mom & pop site where it does not
matter
> if the site is accessible or not. Commercial web sites do have
activity on
> their site and availability is critical. Not to mention the necessity
for
> IDS and proper responses to intrusion attempts. Again, regardless of
the OS
> the administration cost is the same. One could argue that it's easier
and
> cheaper to have NT admins, than Linux admins, but we won't go there.
> The TCO has two component, installation and operating costs. From the
above
> you can see, if you're not blind, that there is a difference in TCO
between
> Linux and NT. For deploying a commercial web site Linux is more
expensive
> than NT.
Yawn, proves nothing, you have only posted your claims, no supporting
evidance.
>
> Otto
>
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
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Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 19:50:03 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Aaron R. Kulkis writes:
>
> > Joe Malloy wrote:
>
> >> Tholen tholes:
>
> >>>> Silly me, I thought I was talking about text editors, not signs.
>
> >>> Something wrong with a simple analogy to help illustrate a point?
>
> >> Wattsamatta, Tholen, you don't like being called on the carpet for
> >> an inappropriate "analogy"?
>
> > No...what he objects to is the fact that ... Steve was right.
>
> Right about what, allegedly?
That you keep changing the subject whenever you're proven wrong.
> There were several issues discussed,
Of which, you have managed to take the wrong side...as always.
> mostly diversions from the original issue, namely your ridiculous
> claim that nothing about computers is intuitive.
We've already demonstrated that keyboards, mice, power switches
and power cords are non-intuitive.
What else do you need?
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 19:50:32 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Marty writes:
>
> > Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>
> >> Joe Malloy wrote:
>
> >>> The Tholen tholes:
>
> >>>>> I haven't seen any microwaves with an on/off button lately.
>
> >>>> Okay then, "Start/Stop", if you must be pedantic.
>
> >>> Whoa, this is the pot calling the kettle black! Pedantic to the
> >>> point of silliness, Tholen now turns around and uses pedanticism as
> >>> an attack. Great going, Tholen, you're really low on the
> >>> consistency list now!
>
> >> There's a reason why Tholen, in 12 years, has never budged from
> >> the TOP of my list as "GODDAMN STUPIDEST FUCKING IDIOT ON USENET"
>
> > Has he really been at it for TWELVE YEARS?!
>
> Of course not, Marty. Aaron is simply another in a series of liars.
Tholen is unwilling to admit that since 1988, he hasn't learned
a damned thing.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 20:08:03 -0500
From: jtnews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What if Linux wasn't free?
"Bobby D. Bryant" wrote:
>
> Cash registers, supposedly. And it was a "going to" announcement, not
> something they have already done.
>
> As to why they would replace existing systems, I wouldn't know. Surely
> they're not opening up enough new locations to need 90K new cash
> registers.
>
> The fact that they've been using Unix surely influenced the decision.
I bet they'll save a small fortune on the cost of getting 90,000 OS
licenses.
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