Linux-Advocacy Digest #774, Volume #31 Sat, 27 Jan 01 18:13:06 EST
Contents:
Re: Gates Vaccine (.)
Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Ramen worm/virus cracks NASA and others (Craig Kelley)
Re: How long does your box run for? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: THOLEN IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Subject: Re: Gates Vaccine
Date: 27 Jan 2001 22:15:13 GMT
mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> gryb wrote:
>>
>> Gates Vaccine
>> _____________________________________________________________
>>
>> If Bill Gates had done something bad, it would have been the front
>> page news of every newspaper in the USA and perhaps the world.
>>
>> Well, he's done something good.
>>
>> The odd thing is --- it's not front page news.
> It is a common tactic for the robber barons in society shroud themselves in
> "good" deeds made possible only by the crimes they have committed.
It comes right down to this; alot of things are more important than computers.
Life is one of them.
It doesnt matter WHY he gave the money away; if you were bitten by a poisonous
snake and faced certian death unless antivenin was given immediately, would you
refuse it if bill gates were holding the syringe?
I wouldnt.
=====.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?)
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 17:13:42 -0500
Chad Myers wrote:
>
> "Paul Colquhoun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 04:37:40 GMT, Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > |Chad Myers wrote:
> > |>
> > |> "Kevin Ford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > |> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > |> > T. Max Devlin once wrote:
> > |> > >Said Chad Myers in alt.destroy.microsoft on Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:34:36
> > |> > > [...]
> > |> > >>It's interesting then, now that FAT has moved on, whereas ext2fs
> > |> > >>has not. (NOTE: I realize FAT sucks, I'm not trying to claim it's
> > |> > >>better than ext2fs, just more updated).
> > |> > >
> > |> > >Guffaw.
> > |> > >
> > |> >
> > |> > Hmmm..... what's ext3 and reiser then
> > |>
> > |> Where are ext2 and reiser? Still not shipping or production.
> > |> They're not the default fs' on the major distros, they're
> > |> only included (on some) as an at-your-on-risk kind of deal.
> > |>
> > |> When Red Hat, SuSE, Caldera, et al ship with Resier
> > |> or ext3 as the default, then I'll stop bashing Linux for
> > |> this horrible weakness.
> > |>
> > |> -Chad
> > |
> > |Actually, I'd keep bashing Linux about that, by your criterion,
> > |since ext3 inherits your hated 2GB limit for file size.
> >
> >
> > Umm, no, it dosn't inherit this limit from ext2, since ect2 dosn't
> > have that limit either.
>
> ext3 doesn't have the limit, but ext2 does to some extent. There's
> a half-fix, but applications still must implement it, which many
> have not.
Ext2 file-size limit is in the TB range
>
> -Chad
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 17:16:42 -0500
"." wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Conversely, in a 1994 interview, Gates proclaimed that one of his goals is
> > to collect a surcharge for EVERY financial transaction on the planet.
> > Translation: he wants to pick everybody's pocket, even if it's
> > settling for one penny at a time.
>
> Indeed, and im glad you brought up this difference.
>
> Gates is exactly the sort of person who would have been up against a wall
> during WWII in germany.
>
> Thus, the interesting comparison of Gates and hitler; they surely would
> have despised eachother and Gates would have probably ended up dead right
> quick.
>
> Note that this does not make hitler into anything except what he actually
> was; a syphallis-ridden homocidal maniac.
>
To hell with both of them.
> -----.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 17:18:03 -0500
Johan Kullstam wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > "." wrote:
> > >
> > > In comp.os.linux.advocacy Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Finally, as for US politics, better bland/boring politics and a diverse
> > > > and vibrant society than the reverse.
> > >
> > > I think we can all agree that what happened in florida during this past
> > > election could be defined at the very least as a highly disorganized and
> > > flawed state electoral system.
> >
> >
> > No...merely corrupt Demoncrook National Committee people playing
> > footsie with corrupt Demoncrook county election officials and even
> > more corrupt Demoncrook Florida Supreme Starchamber
> > dictat^H^H^H^H^^H^Hjustices.
>
> the only difference was that the republicrooks owned the higher
> court. they are both equally bogus.
>
What part of "Federal law dictates that the rules of an election
can NOT be changed after the voting has started" do you not understand?
> --
> J o h a n K u l l s t a m
> [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Don't Fear the Penguin!
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?)
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 17:18:43 -0500
Johan Kullstam wrote:
>
> "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > "Kevin Ford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > T. Max Devlin once wrote:
> > > >Said Chad Myers in alt.destroy.microsoft on Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:34:36
> > > > [...]
> > > >>It's interesting then, now that FAT has moved on, whereas ext2fs
> > > >>has not. (NOTE: I realize FAT sucks, I'm not trying to claim it's
> > > >>better than ext2fs, just more updated).
> > > >
> > > >Guffaw.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hmmm..... what's ext3 and reiser then
> >
> > Where are ext2 and reiser?
>
> reiserfs is available from ftp.namesys.com.
>
> > Still not shipping or production.
>
> SuSE has been shipping reiserfs for some time now.
>
> furthermore, reiserfs is added to linux kernel since 2.4.1-pre7 so
> expect to see it in more linux distributions.
>
> > They're not the default fs' on the major distros,
>
> most people consider SuSE a major distro. as for being the default,
> maybe it's not, but you do have a choice.
>
> > they're
> > only included (on some) as an at-your-on-risk kind of deal.
> >
> > When Red Hat, SuSE, Caldera, et al ship with Resier
> > or ext3 as the default, then I'll stop bashing Linux for
> > this horrible weakness.
>
> one could make the case that NT ships with FAT16 as the default. i
> think that it's easy enough to choose NTFS that it doesn't matter. NT
> does *both* FAT16 and NTFS.
But...NOT FAT32.
>
> --
> J o h a n K u l l s t a m
> [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Don't Fear the Penguin!
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?)
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 17:20:15 -0500
Chad Myers wrote:
>
> "Paul Colquhoun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 01:25:40 GMT, Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > |
> > |"Paul Colquhoun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > |news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > |> On Fri, 26 Jan 2001 14:09:17 GMT, Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > |wrote:
> > |> |
> > |> |"Paul Colquhoun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > |> |news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > |> |> On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:34:36 GMT, Chad Myers
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > |> |wrote:
> > |> |> |
> > |> |> |"Johan Kullstam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > |> |> |news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > |> |>
> > |> |> <snipped>
> > |> |>
> > |> |> |> unix style filesystems with the inodes &c were also designed in the
> > |> |> |> 70s. however, it's not the age of the filesystem design. it's the
> > |> |> |> also competence of the design and the goal of the design. FAT was
> > |> |> |> made for floppies and tiny systems. unix filesystems were made for
> > |> |> |> hard drives and larger systems. it's still MS's fault for keeping
> > |> |> |> such a bad design as FAT and trying to keep it going where it doesn't
> > |> |> |> belong, but age is not the issue.
> > |> |> |
> > |> |> |It's interesting then, now that FAT has moved on, whereas ext2fs
> > |> |> |has not. (NOTE: I realize FAT sucks, I'm not trying to claim it's
> > |> |> |better than ext2fs, just more updated).
> > |> |>
> > |> |>
> > |> |> Read what Johan said.
> > |> |>
> > |> |> ext2 got it right the first time, FAT had to be updated 2 or 3
> > |> |> times in the intervening period.
> > |> |
> > |> |Like I said, FAT sucks. But, ext2 DIDN'T get it right the first
> > |> |time, they've had to update it, and now they're moving on
> > |> |to ext3 because of the failings of ext2.
> > |>
> > |>
> > |> When was ext2 updated? There were bugfixes, but no chnages in
> > |> format or functionality that I am aware of.
> > |
> > |There was a supposed patch that allows ext2 to use >2GB files
> > |on 32-bit, even though it doesn't seem to be all-inclusive
> > |and there are still "issues".
> > |
> > |> Are you sure you are not confusing the fact that ext2 is itself
> > |> an update/replacement for ext?
> > |
> > |Who cares? It still sucks and a replacement that brings it up
> > |to 1994 level still hasn't arrived yet. Let alone bring it up
> > |to 2001 level.
> >
> >
> > Are you *sure* you don't have a learning disability?
> >
> > For about the 4th time (from me, more from others) the 2Gb limit
> > is *not* a problem with ext2.
>
> Every time I hear that, about four posts later, I hear someone
> qualifying it. Something like "well, applications have to be rewritten
> to take advantage of the new fix", or "it's available in an unsupported patch",
> or something like this.
>
> > Let me put it this way. The on disk data structures for ext2 have *always*
> > supported files greater than 2Gb. The limitation on 32bit Linux systems
> > was one level higher in the driver heirarchy.
>
> So you're admitting it was a design flaw? I'm glad, because that's what it
> is. Several other FS vendors have successfully made file systems that support
> >2GB on several different platforms.
>
> > When we install the 2.4.x kernal and associated libraries to enable >2Gb file
> > support, we do *not* have to reformat any disk partitions to make the change
> > effective.
>
> What about the applications? Don't most of them have to be rewritten to support
> the new method?
What part of "UNIX IS NOT WINDOWS" do you not fucking understand, SHIT-HEAD?
>
> -Chad
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?)
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 17:21:21 -0500
Johan Kullstam wrote:
>
> "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > "Johan Kullstam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > "Ayende Rahien" <Please@don't.spam> writes:
> > >
> > > > "T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > Said Ayende Rahien in alt.destroy.microsoft on Fri, 19 Jan 2001 06:58:01
> > > > > >"." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > >> > > Linux is not at all at fault in this scenario. You have issues
> > > > with the
> > > > > >> > > limitations of one filesystem. Exactly like the limitations of FAT
> > > > or
> > > > > >> > > NTFS (I know NTFS can handle larger files than ext2, but that
> > > > doesn't
> > > > > >> > > mean it doesn't have its limits).
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > The only real limitation of NTFS I'm aware of is slow new-file
> > > > creation when
> > > > > >> > dealing with orders of tens of millions of files.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> There are limitations on file sizes and numbers, as there must be...
> > > > > >> luckily, the max filesize with NTFS is huge, but it wont be long before
> > > > > >> people are hitting that limit too (if they haven't already).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >16 Exabytes ???
> > > > > >16 billion Giga byte.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I'm not sure exactly *what* you can put into a file to get into that
> > > > size.
> > > > >
> > > > > Precisely what they said about the 2 Gigabyte limit. ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > And they were really sure *they* were right, too. ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Difference is in the size.
> > > > And the 2GB limit in what exactly? FAT has it (actually, it's a partition
> > > > limit, but that is beside the point) but it's justifiable, FAT was designed
> > > > in the 70s.
> > > > Linux on 32bit has(d) it, it's not justifiable, because need for such files
> > > > exist for a long time,
> > >
> > > i agree. linux should move to 64 bit size_t for files regardless of
> > > processor. linux-2.4 will do large files, but C is a cranky beast
> > > sometimes and updating software can be cumbersome.
> > >
> > > > I can assure you that there was no need for 2GB files
> > > > in the 70s, when FAT was designed.
> > >
> > > unix style filesystems with the inodes &c were also designed in the
> > > 70s. however, it's not the age of the filesystem design. it's the
> > > also competence of the design and the goal of the design. FAT was
> > > made for floppies and tiny systems. unix filesystems were made for
> > > hard drives and larger systems. it's still MS's fault for keeping
> > > such a bad design as FAT and trying to keep it going where it doesn't
> > > belong, but age is not the issue.
> >
> > It's interesting then, now that FAT has moved on, whereas ext2fs
> > has not.
>
> ext2fs is only a few years old.
>
> > (NOTE: I realize FAT sucks, I'm not trying to claim it's
> > better than ext2fs, just more updated).
>
> unix filesystems were expanded from plain inodes, to indirect inodes
> and later to double and tripple indirect inodes to keep up with disk
> drive size increases. unix' filesystem design has been patched and
> kludged since the 70s just like cp/m or mircrosoft FAT.
Actually, the use of indirect and double-indirect and triple-indirect
inodes is pure ELEGANCE....
>
> btw i am using reiserfs for about a year. so far i like it.
>
> --
> J o h a n K u l l s t a m
> [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Don't Fear the Penguin!
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Ramen worm/virus cracks NASA and others
Date: 27 Jan 2001 15:24:03 -0700
"Conrad Rutherford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "Craig Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > "Conrad Rutherford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > "." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >
> > > > No, it was never considered 'absolutely secure' by ANYONE. It is
> highly
> > > > securable. Theres a difference.
> > >
> > > But it can't even reach C2 level of security... NT is more "highly
> > > securable" the NSA says...
> >
> > Perhaps, but SGI is working on a B1 certification for Linux
> > (subdomains and such). Have fun with your C2 for as long as you can!
>
> Yes, and W2K is shooting for B1 certification too so ... we'll see who get's
> there first. W2K is already in the final stages of C2 certification.
There have been informal C2 certifications for Linux.
> Of course, if you understand these ratings you'd know your comment
> "subdomans and such" is meaningless and ignorant of the facts.
That's SGI's approach for making the Linux kernel auditable.
Unfortunately, I can't get to the website right now...
--
The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How long does your box run for?
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 17:27:05 -0500
Michael Vester wrote:
>
> 144 days of uptime the longest my Linux boxes have. The only
> reason they are restarted is because like California, here in
> Alberta we are going through a power deregulation too. Power
> deregulation is the stupidest thing any government has ever
> done. Kind of a Microsoft approach to distrubuting power.
> Expensive and unreliable but has lots of real good excuses.
>
Clue for the clueless:
Maintaining price controls is *NOT* deregulation.
Price controls ALWAYS lead to shortages...because profit
is always lowest when demand is highest....thus eliminating
ALL incentive to produce more supply.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: THOLEN IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 17:29:47 -0500
Ralph Miguel Hansen wrote:
>
> Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>
> >
> snip
> >
> > 1) Get off your retarded ass...
> > 2) Take your maggot-infested brain to the rim of Muana Loa
> > snip
> Would you please be so kind to tell me who is Muana Loa ?
> I really don't know that.
Muana Loa is an active volcano in Hawaii...where Tholen lives.
>
> Keep smiling
> Ralph Miguel Hansen
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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