Linux-Advocacy Digest #918, Volume #30 Fri, 15 Dec 00 20:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: Linux doesn't support P4 ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Name one thing Microsoft INVENTED.... ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("John W. Stevens")
Re: Nobody wants Linux because it destroys hard disks. (Steve Mading)
Re: Voting (Steve Mading)
Re: Name one thing Microsoft INVENTED.... ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Windows 2000 sucks compared to linux (kiwiunixman)
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("John W. Stevens")
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("John W. Stevens")
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("John W. Stevens")
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("John W. Stevens")
Re: Nobody wants Linux because it destroys hard disks. (Steve Mading)
Re: Nobody wants Linux because it destroys hard disks. (Steve Mading)
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux doesn't support P4
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:30:08 -0500
Charlie Ebert wrote:
>
> On Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:10:42 +1300,
> kiwiunixman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ><snype>
> >
> >Pete, you are really fucking me off! Get a life. On a typical Linux
> >distro, there are, maybe, 3 pre-compiled kernels, optimized for
> >different processors. Hence, prior to installation, the installer must
> >detect what CPU is being used, then select the appropriate optimized
> >kernel for that archetecture, and this where the installation is falling
> >down, when trying to detect the CPU. It is very easy for Windows, as
> >the OS is optimized for the lowest class machine (486), and does not try
> >to install the core OS that is optimized for the users processor, where
> >as Linux distro's try to give the customer the best performance by
> >having pre-compiled kernels optimized for specific processors.
> >
> >kiwiunixman
> >
> >
>
> I've never really understood why anybody interested in
> Windows products would READ COLA anyway?
>
> I mean, what is their goal for posting Windows crap
> to COLA anywho? What's their beef anyway.
>
> If you don't like Linux then don't use it.
> And don't post to COLA.
>
> If the typical person has a problem installing linux
> then they go to a group like CODU Debian users or
> what ever particular distribution they bought and
> they get their problems resolved there.
>
> There truely is no marketing impact on Linux nor
> Windows from newsgroups.
>
> There have been NO business managers who have ever
> read COLA or COWNTA or COWA which have ever based
> their buying decision on what was printed there.
>
> The real reason anybody posts anything to a newsgroup
> is to test their own personal convictions-beliefs.
>
> I have a belief that Windows is cancer to the
> business community.
>
> It's costly. It doesn't work right. It's
> a security risk for every business on the planet.
>
> Linux on the other hand is free. It has
> better security. It's uptimes are measured
> in years not days. It is quicker.
>
> Pete has already told me why he posts to COLA.
>
> Pete has a fear of loosing his job.
>
> He's probably the only wintroll who's ever
> told the truth about his fears.
>
> His fears are unjustified.
>
> There is money to be made in Linux.
>
> You can use it to perform your accounting, for instance,
> in your new lawn care service.
>
> "Pete's lawn care service!"
>
> And if this doesn't work for you, here's what you
> can do next.
>
> I want you to go into your wife's kitchen and get
> that little yellow funnel she uses to refil things
> from the refigerator. Clean out the little yellow
> funnel. Stick the funnel in your nose. Wait
> for a good hard rain. Go outside and look up to god.
>
> Charlie
That was pretty funny
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 00:28:37 GMT
Steve Mading writes:
>>>>> so I invite any onlookers to just look upward in this thread at other
>>>>> posts by tholen.
>>>> And they'll see me talking about the use of those keys for cursor
>>>> movement, the qualifier that you conveniently left out.
>>> It's irrelevant to the argument.
>> On the contrary, it's central to your claim that I left out the
>> qualifier.
>>> It's not a qualifier on to whom it is intuitive.
>> Huh?
> I'll spell it out for you. My claim is that while you claim you
> know intuitiveness is all relative to the observer, you still
> make statements about intuitiveness that contradict this,
Yet another example of your pontification.
> because you leave out the relevant qualifiers,
How ironic, coming from someone who left out Aaron's relevant
qualifiers.
> thereby rendering it into a statement claiming universal
> (non-)intuitiveness.
On the contrary, you're simply ignoring context once again.
> In this case, while you included a qualifier, it had nothing to do
> with WHO would find it intuitive, and that's what matters.
Are you expecting a list of names, Steve?
> The qualifier "for cursor movement" doesn't say a damn thing about
> WHO would find it non- intuitive for cursor movement.
My reference to first-time users and novices made that clear, Steve.
Try comprehending context for a change.
> It's WHO would find it intuitive (or not) that needs to be qualified.
Been there, done that.
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 00:31:42 GMT
Steve Mading writes:
>>> Get with the program, and try to actually read my posts for once.
>> You're erroneously presupposing that I haven't actually read your posts,
>> Steve.
> Sorry, more presumption on my part. I presume that if you read
> something I wrote you wouldn't act like I hadn't written it.
You're also presuming that you wrote that something.
>>> I already refined what I said when I realized I was dealing with
>>> a pendantic twit.
>> I see that you're now taking the Aaron Kulkis approach: invective
>> rather than a logical argument.
> No. Invectice *in addition* to logical argument, as in: "I already
> dealt with this,
That's pontification, not a logical argument.
> and by the way you are a pendantic twit."
There's the invective.
> Stop and think for a moment about why you keep get yourself into
> this kind of flamefest, Tholen.
I already have, Steve. It's people like you who substitute invective
when they don't have a logical argument to offer instead.
> Then stop throwing the blame on everyone else.
I'll place the blame where it belongs, Steve.
>>> I refined it to not 'as much', rather than not at all. That was
>>> several days ago.
>> And did you read my response several days ago?
> The one where you claimed the arrows are just as close as the
> escape key to their fingers' home positions?
Actually they are closer.
> Yeah. It didn't suddenly become true in the last few days did it?
No; it became true long ago.
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 00:33:48 GMT
Steve Mading writes:
>>> I've already dealt with the points you brought up,
>> Arrogantly assuming that because something is faster for you, it
>> must be faster for me.
> That would only be if that was your original point.
My original point had nothing to do with speed. That happens to be
your diversion from the topic.
> You didn't start adding that "for me" qualifier until just recently.
How ironic, coming from someone who hasn't added that qualifier
at all.
> Nice try at bait-and-switch, but I'm not that dumb.
How ironic, coming from someone who switched the topic from
intuition to speed.
> [rest deleted]
Figures.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:35:47 -0500
Charlie Ebert wrote:
>
> On Fri, 15 Dec 2000 03:08:28 GMT,
> Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Chad Myers wrote:
> >>
> >> "Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> >
> >> > You're a paranoiac.
> >>
> >> Ad homonym, deny the truth, insult, insult, insult. Typical liberal behavior.
> >> It's right out of the standard playbook. Look at what they do to G. W. Bush
> >> every night.
> >>
> >> -Chad
> >
> >You're full of it. And can you show me a copy of that playbook?
> >Not only that, can you show me a typical liberal? Can you show
> >me a typical conservative? Do I look for a tattoo on the back of
> >the neck? Is someone who disagrees with you a liberal, while
> >someone who disagrees with me a conservative?
> >
> >Typical conservative behavior. Deny the truth. Take fantasies and
> >call them truth. Look what they do to Al Gore every night.
> >Right out of the standard conservative playbook.
> >
> >I have as much right to say that, as you do to say what you say.
> >Doesn't make it true.
> >
> >You will never admit it.
>
> There are some things you can say about both sides which are
> bad.
>
> Al Gore and company, if they had their way....
>
> A. Private ownership of firearms would be banned.
> B. Your taxes would be raised to such a rate the economy would
> be completely choked off.
> C. More murderers would be cut loose in the streets as
> Liberals don't believe in a death penalty.
> D. Family values would go into the toilet.
>
> The Bush camp has problems also.
>
> A. Tax breaks for only the super rich.
What part of "ACROSS THE BOARD TAX CUTS" do you not understand?
> B. More foreign competition in our domestic markets.
Benefits outweigh the costs.
> C. Practically non-existant pollution controls.
When did he say this?
> D. And this pisses me off. Turning the Federal Government
> into a platform for the religious right.
You're truly out of touch.
The so-called Religious Right got out of politics in 1992.
>
> What ever happened to the days when Candidates were
> just middle of the road. Candidates really made
> an attempt in pleasing the middle majority.
Who the fuck wants a someone who doesn't stand for *anything*.
Talk about a goddamn worthless political hack...
>
> The problem with America today is we have no representation
> of the middle class's anymore.
The libertarians represent the middle class, and they have
strong influence in the Republican party.
>
> It's either super left wing liberal or super right wing conservative.
>
> Charlie
>
>
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Name one thing Microsoft INVENTED....
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:37:49 -0500
kiwiunixman wrote:
>
> The whole "98", "2000", naming of software. Thank god Corel didn't call
> their latest Corel Draw, "Corel Draw 2000".
Try again. they borrowed that tactic from the auto industry.
>
> kiwiunixman
>
> Charlie Ebert wrote:
>
> > Seems like people are having trouble naming ONE THING
> > Microsoft invented.
> >
> > So I'll try it again on it's OWN THREAD.
> >
> > Name one thing, just one thing Microsoft actually
> > invented.
> >
> > You don't even have to give me a LINK to prove it.
> >
> > Charlie
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "John W. Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:30:31 -0700
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> [snippage]
>
> You're a paranoiac.
Yet more "net-psychoanalysis"?
You realize you are being a flaming hypocrite here, don't you?
Either that, or you owe an apology to the guy you lambasted for doing
the same thing you are doing here . . .
--
If I spoke for HP --- there probably wouldn't BE an HP!
John Stevens
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Nobody wants Linux because it destroys hard disks.
Date: 16 Dec 2000 00:39:44 GMT
glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: (1)if you aren't smart enough to read and even follow pictures (arrows)
: then u shouldn't be voting OR you should ask for someone to read the
: ballot to you. and if you are too embarrassed to ask for help then
: that's tough. The help is there and if u can't take advantage of it it's
: your fault.
The ballots you saw as examples in the press didn't actually have
the problem. It was terrible reporting. The arrows were nicely
lined up with the holes in the examples. But how would you vote
if your ballot had arrows that were shifted with the binding so that
they pointed partway between holes?
One allegation was that the pages shifted in the booklets, and that
can't be as easily discounted by calling the voters morons.
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From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Voting
Date: 16 Dec 2000 00:33:58 GMT
glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: not counting every ballot is nothing new
: Millions of ballots are not counted every election b/c someone didn't
: punch their stylus through all the way or whatever. Why isn't anyoen
: complaining about those ones?
Some poeople ARE complaining, and have been for many elections past,
it's just that now they have the ear of the press, but only in those
places where the outcome mattered this time around. The whole system
needs to be fixed everywhere that uses such error-prone ballots.
(Note, for example, that someone with a 'hanging chad' problem would
never get any user feedback to tell him about it, since the card punch
happens out of sight. This is the big problem with the archaic tools
used to count votes in this country - no user feedback letting you
know if something went wrong.)
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Name one thing Microsoft INVENTED....
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:39:34 -0500
tom wrote:
>
> Vaporware? :)
Nope. IBM invented Vaporware. One of the reasons they have spent
40 years under consent decrees.
I think they've finally learned their lesson...the ads where the
spokesman has a lawyer from Compliance making sure that the
spokesman doesn't make any outlanding claims...
>
> Tom
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Charlie Ebert:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Seems like people are having trouble naming ONE THING
> > Microsoft invented.
> >
> > So I'll try it again on it's OWN THREAD.
> >
> > Name one thing, just one thing Microsoft actually
> > invented.
> >
> > You don't even have to give me a LINK to prove it.
> >
> > Charlie
> >
> >
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: kiwiunixman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 sucks compared to linux
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 13:41:38 +1300
<snype>
>
> Don't be silly. These are his uptime servers. :-)
That will require 200 win2k servers in a cluster to give atleast a
decent level of relibility to caculate the uptime.
kiwiunixman
--
"Like a midget at a urinal, you gotta keep on your toes"
Naked Gun 33 1/3
"Like a blind man at an orgy, you gotta feel your way out"
Naked Gun 33 1/3
____
Unix Programmer:
"If it an't broken, don't fix it"
Microsoft Programmer:
"If it an't broken and working perfectly, then their must be a problem"
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From: "John W. Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:48:29 -0700
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
> Chad Myers wrote:
> >
> > "Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >
> > > You're a paranoiac.
> >
> > Ad homonym, deny the truth, insult, insult, insult. Typical liberal behavior.
> > It's right out of the standard playbook. Look at what they do to G. W. Bush
> > every night.
> >
> > -Chad
>
> You're full of it.
8-)
He shoots, he SCORESSSS!
It's amazing that immediately after that, you come right back with this!
> And can you show me a copy of that playbook?
Didn't you watch *ANY* of the election protest/contest coverage on TV?
Jesse Jackson was out in force, with his usual load of spin/race
baiting/demonization/smear and out right lies. . . or don't you consider
Jackson to be a liberal?
> Not only that, can you show me a typical liberal?
Bill Clinton? He received wide spread support from "liberals" of all
stripes before and after his impeachment.
> Do I look for a tattoo on the back of
> the neck? Is someone who disagrees with you a liberal, while
> someone who disagrees with me a conservative?
No, a Liberal is some one who voted for Harry Browne. Conservatives
voted for George, Socialists voted for Nader, and Authoritarians voted
for Gore.
> Typical conservative behavior. Deny the truth.
Examples, please?
> Take fantasies and
> call them truth.
Examples, please?
> Look what they do to Al Gore every night.
Ok, I've been watching . . . what particular part of what "they" do to
Al Gore every night supports your assertions?
While the Democrats have done everything they could do to circumvent,
rewrite or just out right ignore the law, the national media have played
very fair, very straight with him, hardly calling him on this at all.
In the end, I admire his strength of conviction, while simultaneously
despising exactly those convictions, and his tactics. Winning by
destroying, even if only in a limited way, for a limited time, the rule
of law would have set a horrible precedent for both his Presidency, and
future Presidential elections.
> Right out of the standard conservative playbook.
The standard conservative playbook is based in the strategy of pointing
out how the latest Democratic plan/platform/demand is a very basic
violation of the political foundations of this country.
Being very reactive, instead of proactive, and being heavily based in
objective, rational thought, it fails utterly to convince.
The conservatives need to learn how to do this "politics by sound bite"
thing the Democrats do so well, or they are going to loose big time.
All you need to do is watch "PC with Bill" to see this in action . . .
the Democrats throw out meaningless sound bites that generate a strong
emotional reaction, while the conservatives try desperately to construct
objective, logical arguments.
The crowd, of course, goes wild for the sound bites, and totally ignores
the attempt to hold an intellectually based, rational discussion. Which
is what you'd expect . . . to play to the crowd, use simple, emotionally
laden terms. Hitler, Mussolini, Churchill, JFK, the great Emperors of
Rome . . . they all knew this, and used it very effectively.
--
If I spoke for HP --- there probably wouldn't BE an HP!
John Stevens
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "John W. Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:51:37 -0700
Ilja Booij wrote:
>
> May I just add that in my country, the liberals are right-wingers
> (conservative, moneyspeaking types, hmm, sounds somewhat bad, but
> let's say mostly more conservative)
> isn't what you guys call liberalism something more towards socialism?
In a word . . . yes.
--
If I spoke for HP --- there probably wouldn't BE an HP!
John Stevens
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "John W. Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:53:16 -0700
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> Bob Hauck wrote:
> >
> > On 13 Dec 2000 22:28:33 GMT, Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >: Yes...the term liberal (root: liber = freedom) has been absconded
> > >: with by the freedom-hating socialists.
> > >
> > >Then why help then mis-use it? Stop calling them liberals then.
> >
> > If he called the Democrats "socialists" or "communists" then people
> > would think he's an extremist nutcase.
>
> Actually, I DO call them communists on a regular basis, and yes,
> people call me an extremist nutcase for simply telling the fucking truth.
And what is so amazing is that most of these name callers claim to be
"tolerant".
Amazing, eh?
--
If I spoke for HP --- there probably wouldn't BE an HP!
John Stevens
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "John W. Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:54:53 -0700
Ilja Booij wrote:
>
> "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > "Steve Mading" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:918t6h$qhq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > : Yes...the term liberal (root: liber = freedom) has been absconded
> > > : with by the freedom-hating socialists.
> > >
> > > Then why help then mis-use it? Stop calling them liberals then.
> >
> > They get mad when you call them Socialists because it sounds un-American.
>
> Socialists has a bit of nasty taste to it of course..
> in the Netherlands we have a social-democrat party, i guess that would
> be a better term for it.
Yes. In truth, the Democratic party in the USA would be best described
as the party that believes in Democratic-Socialism.
--
If I spoke for HP --- there probably wouldn't BE an HP!
John Stevens
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From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Nobody wants Linux because it destroys hard disks.
Date: 16 Dec 2000 00:53:20 GMT
glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: People can't read. I found it hard to laugh when I was in high school
: and a couple teachers would make the students take turns reading the
: textbook and some kids would pull words out of their ass when reading
: the text b/c they couldn't pronounce the word that was actually there OR
: they were thinking too fast and thought it said something else.
I can read just fine, and I would still probably sound like one of
those people if I was reading aloud from a page. I can only read
fast when I'm not trying to speak what I'm reading. I can speak
fast when I'm speaking words that I generate myself from scratch.
I can't speak fast when I'm repeating verbatim someone else's words.
They don't feel right in my mouth. It's like my mind is wired up such
I cannot choose to read more slowly. I must read at max speed. But
I can't talk that fast, so I end up speaking clumsily when I read
aloud, becasue I have to keep my reading speed on a leash when I do
that and it feels all wrong.
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From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Nobody wants Linux because it destroys hard disks.
Date: 16 Dec 2000 00:56:41 GMT
Kyle Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Linux uses modules, which are part of the kernel, which is THE OPERATING
: PLATFORM. The Linux OS structure does not work well with the idea of
: "drivers" or "3rd party modules". You can't simply download & install a
: DRIVER in Linux, you have to accomidate for the new MODULE.
Explain the difference between a 'DRIVER' and a 'MODULE' that does
driver functions. Good luck.
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