Linux-Advocacy Digest #8, Volume #31 Thu, 21 Dec 00 18:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: Name one thing Microsoft INVENTED.... ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Reds, Yellows, and Other Bitter Pills ("billh")
Re: This group should rename itself (Nathaniel Jay Lee)
Re: This group should rename itself ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("billh")
Flatfish ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Conclusion (Shane Phelps)
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Name one thing Microsoft INVENTED.... ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: My pet peeve: Developers who don't furnish a complete application (mlw)
Re: Predictions (featuring Drestin Black) ("Conrad Rutherford")
Re: This group should rename itself (Gary Hallock)
Re: My pet peeve: Developers who don't furnish a complete application package.
(David Dorward)
Re: Predictions (featuring Drestin Black) ("Conrad Rutherford")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Name one thing Microsoft INVENTED....
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 16:50:05 -0500
Stuart Fox wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Charlie Ebert:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Seems like people are having trouble naming ONE THING
> > Microsoft invented.
> >
> > So I'll try it again on it's OWN THREAD.
> >
> > Name one thing, just one thing Microsoft actually
> > invented.
> >
> > You don't even have to give me a LINK to prove it.
> >
>
> Marketing of computer software. Noone else seemed to do it, and seemed
> a little surprised when Microsoft did. Some seemed to steadfastly
> refuse to market their software until it was too late (OS/2 anyone?)
>
You're insane. Byte and Creative Computing were FULL Of software
ads long before Microsoft stole QDOS.
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "billh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,us.military.army
Subject: Re: Reds, Yellows, and Other Bitter Pills
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 21:53:20 GMT
"Chris Ahlstrom"
> By the way, did you know that the election of George Bush was predicted
> by Nostradamus? Here's the prediction:
>
> "In the twelfth month of the millennial year, in the land of
> greatest power, the village idiot will be brought forth and
> declared the leader"
> - Nostradamus
Wait a minute, I thought G.W. Bush is the President-elect, not some waffling
left-wing internet inventor.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nathaniel Jay Lee)
Subject: Re: This group should rename itself
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 21:54:07 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spoke thusly:
>I think this group ought to rename itself:
>
>comp.os.linux.bigots
>
>After all, there is very little advocacy here, only "Windows sux" and "Hey
>Wintroll" spewing forth ad naseaum.
>
>--
>Pete, running KDE2 on Linux Mandrake 7.2
>
Well, I decided to check out the group today after a few
weeks away and found, unbelievably (note the sarcasm):
1. Steve/simon/claire/whatever is back with about four or
five new names (flatfish? Swango?) and still babbling
incessantly about what a piece of garbage Linux is.
2. The number of people posting drivel about how we should
all bow down before the god of Gates is about exactly one
half of the posts in the newsgroup.
3. The number of people posting anything that even
remotely resembled intelligent conversation (on either
side of the Windows vs. Linux debate) is astronomically low.
4. There are still the same OS bigots (again on both
sides) posting almost exactly the same thing that they
were posting a couple of months back.
Having said that, let me again express that I don't think
Pete is one of the bigots. Pete, you seem to be a
relatively intelligent person with a Windows leaning that
happens to snap a little too quickly when some Linux moron
tells you what an idiot you are for using Windows (if i
snapped every time I was told to switch back to Windows I
would never calm down). People on the Linux side of the
debate are just as guilty of OS bigotism as people on the
Windows side, and it is maddening to see.
But, it is also sad to see some of the better
conversationlists and more down-to-earth people attacked
as OS bigots by people that misunderstand their
intentions. For instance, I tend to think that Windows
"can" be useful, even tough I myself don't use it. I am a
Linux and FreeBSD user (with the occassionally BeOS
stint). But that doesn't mean that I utterly hate all
things MS. But, when I state something along those lines,
invariably someone pops up out the peanut gallery to tell
me what an absolute idiotic asshole I am. To people with
that urge I say, thank you. You are proving that it is
impossible to have an intelligent conversation online.
Pete, I wish to ask you, am I really wrong about you? As
I said, you seem to be an intelligent poster with a
Windows leaning. But there are times (like when I read
your above post) that I have to wonder what you are really
here for. I have done my fair share of ranting in this
group in the past, but usually at my own kind (if such
distinctions can be made at all) for acting the fool. But
you seem to be on the offensive quite often, going after
us "poor uneducated bastards" that choose to use Linux
instead of Windows (those weren't your words I'm quoting,
just a general vibe I've picked up). So, is my assessment
of you correct? Or are you another of the, "I'm just here
to watch the penguinistas freak" people? This is a
serious question. Forgive the slightly flame-ish sounding
tone. But I don't know of another way to ask without
soudning even worse.
It does seem a bit odd that so much time is occupied in a
Linux advocacy group belittling Windows as "the
competition that couldn't compete". And when someone
posts something positive about Linux the thread either
immediately dies or quickly turns into a flamewar in
response to someone saying "that can't be true, I use
Windows and I know better".
I use Linux, I enjoy using Linux (at work and at home). I
had a lot of problems with Windows (which may or may not
have been 'my own fault' because Windows just never made
sense to me, no matter how hard I tried to 'get it').
But, I am not quick to say, "that's not possible" to a
Windows advocate (although if I see them spouting
pro-Windows posts in here I may ask them why). I do
realize that some people are able to use Windows and feel
very productive with it. I say, good for them. Go to the
Windows groups and speak with others that share your
interests. But if you come in here
(comp.os.linux.advocacy) either keep silent, ask serious
questions (not questions like, "When is Linux going to
work?" or "Why does Linux suck so bad?"), or contribute
with an article that actually holds some context to the
group. If you wish to list Linux's shortcomings, you can
do so. But unless you do it in a "this might help Linux
out" kind of way, you probably are just adding to the
noise. I rarely have seen anyone in this group say,
"Linux could really use..." without adding something along
the lines of "what a piece of *$&%&##" and "you would have
to be *$*%&( drunk, stupid or retarded to use it".
As to the "we're just paying you assholes back" tribe: I
have yet to post a retaliatory remark into a Windows
advocacy group for all the Wintrolls that have gone out of
their way to piss off members of the Linux advocacy group.
If there are huge numbers of idiots posting pro-Linux
anti-MS messages in the Windows groups, it is more than
likely someone that doesn't offer much to the conversation
in this group. So, what can I say? Grow up is the only
thing I can think of that is appropriate. At some point
someone has to be big enough to say, "so what?" and just
walk away from it. Believe it or not, this isn't a holy
war. And for those that think it is, on either side, you
really need to get out more. Take a vacation, go do
something else for a while. It isn't that serious. No
matter how tied up you are in it. It isn't worth the
anger and frustration that some of us tend to show at some
points in time. I have been guilty of it myself at times.
But, just like my advice, I walked away, got a fresh
perspective on things by doing some other things I enjoy,
and came back feeling a lot better about things.
To Pete, have I been too kind in my assessments of you in
the past? Are you really a person that is just trying to
stir up trouble? Or are you just someone that gets angry
a little too quickly? (If that's it, we are all guilty of
that from time to time, nothing to be ashamed of.) To
everyone else, isn't there any point in trying to speak
somewhat intelligently? (Other than Timmay! That guy can
drivel any time he wants. He's entertaining enough to
make it worth reading anyway.) Or is the entire point of
this newsgroup just purely based on the "divert the brunt
of the flamewar attack" principle? If so, then I guess
I'm in the wrong place.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nathaniel Jay Lee
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: This group should rename itself
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 16:58:08 -0500
Pete Goodwin wrote:
>
> I think this group ought to rename itself:
>
> comp.os.linux.bigots
Whatever, Windows bigot.
>
> After all, there is very little advocacy here, only "Windows sux" and "Hey
> Wintroll" spewing forth ad naseaum.
>
> --
> Pete, running KDE2 on Linux Mandrake 7.2
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "billh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,us.military.army
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 21:59:53 GMT
"Aaron R. Kulkis"
> You idiot. THE VERY SAME STATS which YOU (Redloser) obtained from the
> Army war historian demonstrated conclusively that it medics become
> casualties at a rate 50% higher than infantry men.
And you continually demonstrate you're a lying wannabe war hero. The
question remains. So what? Or, more importantly, who cares?
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Flatfish
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 16:59:04 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
> Flatfish
> Why do they call it a flatfish?
Take a wiiiiiiiiillllllld fucking guess, moron.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: Shane Phelps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Conclusion
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 09:11:12 +1100
"Chad C. Mulligan" wrote:
>
> "The Ghost In The Machine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In comp.os.linux.advocacy, sfcybear
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote
[ snip ]
> > >
> > >Yeah, I bet that gets you hard! But There is not a SINGLE MS machine on
> > >the list. It's all Unix.
> >
> > What, no VM/CMS, MVS, TOPS-20, or VMS? :-) I'm crushed.
> >
>
> I'm shocked. Yet another reason to mistrust those numbers I'm sure there
> are a large number of at least VMS machines that haven't been rebooted in
> the last year or two, and yet they're not on the list.
>
How many of these machines are likely to be publicly visible?
I would have to think that anybody running big sites with these OSen
would keep them firmly tucked away behind a couple of layers of firewalls
and just leave the *nix or NT boxes visible. The usual thing is to
reserve the big iron for the heavy database serving & business logic,
and connect to them from an app server through some form of middleware.
A typical structure is choke router -> firewall -> public web server,
public ftp server, other public access boxes -> firewall -> app server(s)
-> firewall -> *serious* boxes <- firewall(s) <- internal client boxes.
The internal structure will typically be quite complex, with access
to the "public" servers, internal web servers etc in their own DMZ(s)
and so on - I'm more concerned with the external view for this example.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,us.military.army
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 17:14:36 -0500
billh wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>
> > You idiot. THE VERY SAME STATS which YOU (Redloser) obtained from the
> > Army war historian demonstrated conclusively that it medics become
> > casualties at a rate 50% higher than infantry men.
>
> And you continually demonstrate you're a lying wannabe war hero. The
You write like a jealous loser who's pissed because he didn't get to go
like I did.
> question remains. So what? Or, more importantly, who cares?
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Name one thing Microsoft INVENTED....
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 17:15:28 -0500
JoeX1029 wrote:
>
> >Other than SALES, they have contributed nothing.
>
> I like the Mice MS makes, like the optical one (they mave not have invented it
> but its a damn good mouse.) The joysticks are good too.
All of which are made by other makers (just like Sun doesn't make their
own hardware...that's all contracted out, too).
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: My pet peeve: Developers who don't furnish a complete application
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 17:21:41 -0500
This is one of those good/bad trade-off things about open source. We do
not live in an ideal world.
I am a software developer, and sometimes I don't do the documentation.
The issue is that I am not as productive doing docs as I am doing
software.
One of the points of OSS is that people "chip in" as they see fit. You
could have very easily updated an install or readme file to include
information and sent it back to the developer, so that the next person
won't have the same problems you have had.
--
http://www.mohawksoft.com
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From: "Conrad Rutherford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Predictions (featuring Drestin Black)
Date: 21 Dec 2000 16:21:12 -0600
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Conrad Rutherford wrote:
> >
> > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Bob Hauck wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 17:40:41 -0500, JS/PL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > You'll find that the Linux (*internet surfing) desktop share is
about
> > > > > .003120. MS.* is about .9375222 as of October out of 554,519,878
> > > > > samples. read/weep http://www.thecounter.com/stats/
> > > >
> > > > Why you think this is a good thing is what escapes a lot of us. I
can't
> > > > imagine it being a good thing to have one company control 93% of
> > anything.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I think we should eliminate Ford and Chrysler so that everybody
> > > has to buy an Oldsmobile
> >
> > No one said anything about eliminating anyone. It's a simple reporting
of
> > fact that MS browsers are in use on 93% of all systems versus only about
0%
> > for Linux.
>
> Liar
You are a retard (as per your own .SIG text) but I'm waiting for you to
actually prove me wrong since simply stating "liar" without supporting
evidence is nothing more than a simple way to illustrate your pathetic
stupidity
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 17:21:08 -0500
From: Gary Hallock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: This group should rename itself
Pete Goodwin wrote:
> I think this group ought to rename itself:
>
> comp.os.linux.bigots
>
> After all, there is very little advocacy here, only "Windows sux" and "Hey
> Wintroll" spewing forth ad naseaum.
>
> --
> Pete, running KDE2 on Linux Mandrake 7.2
You must be reading a different ng than me. I think there is way to much
"Linux sux". It really should be changed to
comp.os.windows.bigots
Gary
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From: David Dorward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: My pet peeve: Developers who don't furnish a complete application
package.
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 22:22:20 +0000
Yatima wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 20:29:09 +0000, David Dorward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> >Have you tried Debian? Stable isn't bleeding edge, but alt-get will
> >automatically sort out dependances for you.
>
> Acutally it's apt-get and if you want the latest and greatest try
oops, typo
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From: "Conrad Rutherford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Predictions (featuring Drestin Black)
Date: 21 Dec 2000 16:27:15 -0600
"Arthur Frain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Conrad Rutherford wrote:
> >
> > "Truckasaurus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:90rvcr$g4h$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > It is time to look at predictions for the year past - 2000:
> > > This one's by Drestin Black:
> > > "Message-ID: <hrlL3.7102$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > I'll argue with you there. I am willing to take a double or nothing
bet
> > > from
> > > you, Windows 2000 will sell 2x more copies than the combined sales of
> > > Linux
> > > in 2000."
> > >
> > > Sadly enough, I think Dres wins this one. But if you look at it, it's
> > > kind of a wussy guess - I mean Win has 90% of the desktop market...
> > >
> > > 1 Prediction point for Dres, and 100 wuss points in the same
direction!
> > > Get som hair on your chest Dres, and give us a real prediction!
> >
> > I don't remember him making a wrong prediction yet - it helps that he
> > probably has enough stock in MS to call Bill's cell phone :) but fact of
the
> > matter, he told it like it was.
> >
> > Giving "wuss points" is just sour grapes.
>
> Funny you should mention Drestin and MSFT stock in the
> same sentence. Anyone recall Drestin's recommendation
> on COMNA (back around Valentine's Day IIRC) to buy
> MSFT (at over 100) because MSFT *always* goes up
> upon a new OS release - W2K at the time. He sure
> got that one right, didn't he? MSFT closed at 58 and
> change today - a 40+ % loss.
>
> Drestin hinself was going to buy 1000 shares. Hope
> he did, but I suspect that was more of his usual BS.
> It's all on deja if anyone wants to check it out.
>
> My investment advice would be to buy stocks that
> actually increase in value. (And nope, I wouldn't
> recommend RHAT or LNUX either)
Gee, so the guy buys 1000 shares of a technology stock that has had a
company history long record of increasing and recovering higher than before
after any fall and it hasn't rebounded yet. Is there anyone who seriously
believes MS stock will stay so low (other than penguin lovers and MS
haters)? I've watched MS climb and fall but in the long term climb. I fully
expect that it will recover it's value and more. Besides, it's a HELL of a
bargin now at 58. I'd buy more if I had money to spare. He may have
recommended buying stock (and been wrong at this time) but who's to say it
won't be worth it later and even if it isn't, he didn't make a prediction,
just gave a recommendation (he never claims to be a stock broker or expert
in that field).
Unlike rhat stock which has done nothing but fall, just like all other linux
stock, without any signs or hopes of rising again. I mean, how CAN a company
profit when it's product is available for free? I don't laugh as hard at
Redhat as I do at it's investors and those pengin lovers that went crazy to
buy the stock - remember those that whinned on-line when they missed their
chance to buy the inflated stock and some were able to after all? I'll bet
every single one of them are now feeling pretty stupid. It's like the
for-a-month millionairs that had that redhat stock they couldn't sell when
it was worth 100+ and now it's worth, what, a buck? I dunno... I wonder if
they still think linux is their future? Unless eating dogfood is your thing,
linux ain't the future for people who realize the mechanics of the world are
greased by dollars.
If I had 58,000 - I'd buy 1000 shares of MS right now.
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