Linux-Advocacy Digest #332, Volume #31            Mon, 8 Jan 01 05:13:05 EST

Contents:
  Re: How the f*ck do I install .xpi plugins ? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: How the f*ck do I install .xpi plugins ? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Red Hat dead/dying? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Why Hatred? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Nobody wants Linux because it destroys hard disks. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: You and Microsoft... ("Erik Funkenbusch")
  Re: open source is getting worst with time. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: How the f*ck do I install .xpi plugins ? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Does Linux envy Microsoft? (Nick Condon)

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How the f*ck do I install .xpi plugins ?
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 04:10:14 -0500

Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> 
> I'm reafdy to go on a homicidal rampage out of frustration with
> this f*cking Mozilla POS. The stupid POS wants me to download the plugin
> even though it's already downloaded. I tried hacking the install
> to make the plugin install and for some reason I keep getting
> those annoying popups harrassing me and telling me to download the f*cking
> plugin which I already downloaeded.
> 
> It's no wonder MSIE is winning when these f*cking clowns can't release a
> browser that makes it at least possible to download and install f*cking
> plugins. And not only that but it harasses the user asking them to download
> 15MB files that they've already downloadewd.
> 
> I need the JRE plugin, I've already downlaoded it. Can someone
> suggest how to install these f*cking jre..xpi  files before
> I buy an AK47 from the local supermarket ?
> 
> --
> Donovan Rebbechi * http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/ *
> elflord at panix dot com

You can get rifles at the supermarket?

Where do you live?...I wanna live there, too.

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How the f*ck do I install .xpi plugins ?
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 04:13:54 -0500

David Dorward wrote:
> 
> Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> 
> > It's no wonder MSIE is winning when these f*cking clowns can't release a
> > browser that makes it at least possible to
> 
> Mozilla is BETA (or Alpha, I'm not sure). That means it isn't finished, but
> what has been done is available for you to try if you so want.
> 
> Oh, you might get better help in fixing the problem by posting to a help
> group (better yet a mozilla help group or mailing list) then an advocacy
> group.

Better yet, connect to Netscapes USENET server:

secnews.netscape.com   (secure...so make sure you note that in the set up)

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: Red Hat dead/dying?
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 04:21:23 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> John A. Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ours range from antiquated Sparc 2 machines to recent model Ultra 10
> > machines and just about everything in between.
> 
> I know the feeling. I've still got SPARC 2's and HP 712's, as well as
> Ultra 80's and Jx000 HP's. It can be tough, which is why I mentioned
> that images were the same within certain classes.
> 
> We're starting to use Linux, and that's even worse, as most current
> machines are whatever was sitting around unused. That will be changing
> soon, I'm developing a corporate image with a small set of hardware in
> mind.
> 
> > was our Civil Engineering department where almost every desktop machine
> > was serving home directories using whatever space wasn't required on the
> > disk drive for the operating system.
> 
> We used to do that before the current admin team was formed. I was a
> user/programmer back then, and that was bad enough. I'm glad I did not
> move into admin until the "secret server" situation was well on its
> way out. We call it that because you never knew what functions might
> go away if any one machine failed or was shut down. Someone years ago
> could have installed an application on a desktop machine and made it
> available with symlinks and/or the automounter, then not documented
> it. Then when the drive failed, the phone starts ringing off the
> hook, it turns out half the users depended on that "secret server".
> 

I remember being at GM Powetrain the Tech Center, and the official
GM management position was:  "File servers for home directories and
applications are a waste of money because you have this really expensive
machine just sitting there doing nothing."

Of course, the productivity losses from trying to figure out how and
where to install the next upgrade of UniGraphics, or Nastran didn't
count as "money" spent..... or something



> Those days are gone, thank God.

i agree

> 
> > A serious drawback of this distributed support model is that it is
> > impractical to implement a firewall.  There are so many departmental
> 
> We outsource all networking and firewall services (EDS, they do a good
> job on this actually), this includes all the PC's as well, which I do
> not (again, thank Cod) admin.
> 
> > machines that have to be accessible from the Internet that attempting to
> 
> Ah, our big difference. Absolutely *nothing* on our network is supposed
> to be visible from the Internet, and the only connections from the
> inside are email, and http/ftp/telnet through a proxy, which most
> employees do not have access to.
> 
> Our outside corporate web page is designed and hosted by another firm,
> is not connected to our network in any way, and company employees
> don't even do any of the html design (I was once told that this
> eliminated the need for corporate security to examine each update for
> accidental inclusion of proprietary information).
> 
> --
> Jim Buchanan                                     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> =================== http://www.buchanan1.net/ ==========================
> I'm gonna hit the highway like a battering ram, on a silver black
> phantom bike, when the metal is hot and the engine is hungry and we're
> all about to see the light...  -Meatloaf
> ========================================================================


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant.
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 04:26:56 -0500

Kyle Jacobs wrote:
> 
> I find your directed hatred toward an individuals religious choice to be
> hideously ignorant, and inconsiderate.


Check this out:

2001:
 
> Scientology may not be a respected religion, but people DO follow it.  Their


1943:

Nazism may not be a respected religion, but people DO follow it.




> choices are their own, and if they decide to follow the obligation to send
> all personal earnings to "The Church", that is they're right (with the
> exclusion of Germany as I recall, but that lay may have changed...)
> 
> Subsequently, making a comparison between stupid and grumpy people and
> Scientology is also ignorant, and offensive.
> 
> SUMMARY: Stop sending personal attacks when you know you don't have a valid
> point you jerk.
> 
> "." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:937jef$4vu$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In comp.os.linux.advocacy kiwiunixman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > The question is, how much did he pay for that phase.  As most people
> know,
> > > scientology IS the biggest con-jobs next to Microsoft and e-commerce.
> >
> > I havent ever paid one living CENT to the church of scientology, and
> > never will.  :)
> >
> > I'll just betcha flatfish has though.  Scientologists are notoriously
> > stupid and grumpy.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----.
> >


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant.
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 04:28:28 -0500

"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
> 
> Said Chris Ahlstrom in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Mon, 08 Jan 2001
> >Kyle Jacobs wrote:
> >>
> >> I find your directed hatred toward an individuals religious choice to be
> >> hideously ignorant, and inconsiderate.
> >>
> >> Scientology may not be a respected religion, but people DO follow it.  Their
> >> choices are their own, and if they decide to follow the obligation to send
> >> all personal earnings to "The Church", that is they're right (with the
> >> exclusion of Germany as I recall, but that lay may have changed...)
> >>
> >> Subsequently, making a comparison between stupid and grumpy people and
> >> Scientology is also ignorant, and offensive.
> >>
> >> SUMMARY: Stop sending personal attacks when you know you don't have a valid
> >> point you jerk.
> 
> SUMMARY: "I am a stupid and grumpy person."

That was pretty funny!


> 
> :-/
> 
> --
> T. Max Devlin
>   *** The best way to convince another is
>           to state your case moderately and
>              accurately.   - Benjamin Franklin ***


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Hatred?
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 04:29:53 -0500

Donn Miller wrote:
> 
> Tom Wilson wrote:
> 
> > Modula II is Pascal for anal-retentives <g>. A great language for teaching
> > modular programming and data strutures. A bit too pedantic to do any real
> > work with.
> 
> Hmmm...  and what about Modula-3?  Is this worth learning, or not?  I
> could install the M-3 development package on my machine, but I think I
> have enough work cut out for me trying to learn and/or perfect my
> knowledge of C, C++, Java, and Perl.  It sounds like the above-mentioned
> languages are a lot more common than Modula-3.  But, I've seen people
> mention that Modula-3 was a "great systems programming language".  Gee,
> and I here I thought C and C++ did this pretty well. 8-)

Maybe it's "great" as in "Great Lakes" = REALLY BIG, FREAKING HUGE LAKES


> 
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-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Nobody wants Linux because it destroys hard disks.
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 04:32:07 -0500

JM wrote:
> 
> On 7 Jan 2001 04:46:52 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
>  ([EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lewis Miller)) wrote:
> 
> >Kyle Jacobs was heard ranting about
> ><mbc56.146555$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> in alt.linux.sux on 04 Jan
> >2001
> 
> >>Oh, like all the "documented" functionality under Linux.
> >>
> >>Nice try.
> 
> >Yeah try typing man. works wonders.
> 
> You're forgetting, windows users like bloated wizards to guide them
> through everything, and typing "man" would probably require a restart.

no...but it would involve using their brains...


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: You and Microsoft...
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 03:39:13 -0600

"Donn Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> > I'm not pissed, unlike running Linux which I finally just deleted and
> > installed FreeBSD over.  I'm much happier now.
>
> Great.  But didn't you find it harder to install and configure, though?

Not at all.  Of course I've been using FreeBSD for about 3 years, so I know
it's quirks.  But the first time I installed it (circa 2.1.x IIRC) it was
fairly self-explanatory except for the partitioning (took me a while to
figure out exactly what a mount point was and why i'd want one ;)

Unlike Linux, FreeBSD is quite consistent and I can generally find anything
i'm looking for on the FreeBSD web site.  Not so with linux distribution
sites.  While they do provide a lot of information specific to their
distro's, they seem to make you go elsewhere for the vast majority of
information.  You end up surfing for half an hour to find the most up to
date HowTo on something, which may or may not be applicable to your distro.

> For me, it's easy, as I am a 5 1/2 year FreeBSD "veteran", having run
> FreeBSD since 2.0.5, so I wouldn't know too much about the difficulty
> level.  I think Linux is a great thing, but it seems as though FreeBSD
> is taking a back seat to Linux as far as companies and
> colleges/universities.  For example, at CMU, there's a lot of jobs
> involving hacking the Linux kernel.  I have yet to see one that involves
> FreeBSD.  Well, I did see _one_ that involved some network programming
> on FreeBSD at CMU, but that's about it.

FreeBSD is much more heavily controlled than Linux is.  Linux has the
momentum at the moment.  Most FreeBSD users are content to just USE the OS,
and not make it their personal mission to shove it in everyones face.

> I started using FreeBSD at about May 1995, with 2.0.5 release.  I really
> liked it.  Then, I tried Slackware 2.2.0 (that's what was out at the
> time), and I found that I didn't like it as much as FreeBSD.  I found
> Slackware 2.2.0 more "user-friendly" than FreeBSD at the time.  Although
> I liked FreeBSD better, I found that Linux supported a wider range of
> HW.  Also, at the time you could go out to any mall bookstore, and pick
> up "Linux Unleased", which had a Slackware 2.2.0 CD included.  I never
> saw any FreeBSD CD's w/book at any mall at the time.  So, I figured I
> was better off running Linux.  Yes, Slackware was probably the most
> popular at the time.

Greg Lehey's "The Complete FreeBSD" is an excellent reference.  It's
copyright starts at 1996, which was shortly after you started.

> In Oct 1996, I came back home to FreeBSD, and FreeBSD has been my
> favorite "unix" OS ever since.  (Can't remember which version was out at
> the time...  maybe it was 2.1.3 or 2.1.5, can't remember.)  Oh, I've run
> Linux off and on, and I still think it's a great OS.  But, I made this
> committment to stick with FreeBSD through thick and thin, good and bad.

It's easy to do.  The FreeBSD mailing lists seem to have much more signal to
noise than Linux lists, and there isn't any of the "If you're too stupid to
figure it out, you shouldn't be using it" attitude.

I also find the kernel tuning mechanism of FreeBSD much more friendly and
simple to use.  Yeah, you still should recompile your kernel to tune it, but
it's pretty straight forward.

> As far as FreeBSD is concerned, yes, I feel that it could probably use
> some nice configuration tools, like an X-based installer, for example.
> But, the danger in using GUI tools is that you may come up with a
> horrendous design.  For example, I'm not too crazy about RedHat's
> linuxconf, as I find the maze of options confusing.

Well, sysinstall isn't much better, but at least everything is usually only
a few layers down.

> Now, RedHat is more
> or less stuck with linuxconf, good or bad.  I think it's better to come
> up with a better, simpler, more intuitive hand-configurable set of
> config files first, and _then_ add the graphical config tools.  If you
> layout the design of the /etc configuration files after the GUI config
> editor, the danger is that you may end up with something not very
> conducive to human-editing.  I've seen people mention (at least in the
> past) about how RedHat's /etc directory is sort of messy to deal with by
> hand.  I've heard the same thing about Solaris.  If you look at
> Slackware's /etc layout, it's a lot "nicer" to hand-config.

After going back to FreeBSD i was amazed at how neat and orderly /etc is.  I
hadn't really noticed before, but Red Hat 6.2 and Mandrake 7.2 comparitively
speaking are a nightmare, especially with all the tons of links and run
levels and other BS.

> So, the danger in making something appealing to the masses is that you
> may put the graphical config tools higher up on the priority list than
> intuitively laid-out config files.  There's nothing wrong with
> user-friendly GUI tools, but you have to make sure it's just as easy for
> a human to deal with them.

If the GUI tools work, then there is little reason to worry about human
modification.  Yeah, some people will want to, but that's a 90/10 problem.
You can inconvenience 10% of the users for 90% of the users benefit.
However, the problem is that the Linux GUI tools seldom work completely and
often require you to go in by hand and fix what the GUI tool screwed up.





------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: open source is getting worst with time.
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 04:35:47 -0500

JM wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 07 Jan 2001 01:44:32 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
>  (T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> 
> >>>But..you see, this is a free country.  Sellers can use whatever
> >>>measurement system they like.  And if it appeals to purchasers,
> >>>great.  If it doesn't appeal to consumers, so be it.
> 
> >>However, thanks to European dictatorship, it's illegal to sell in
> >>metric.
> 
> >Huh, what?
> 
> In Britain it's illegal to sell in imperial units.

There is no tyrant worse than the one who has convinced himself that
his schemes are "for your own good"...whereas the tyrant who seeks to
torture for the sake of cruelty may eventually find satisfaction at
some level of your pain....the tyrant who is trying to help you has
no qualms with taking the torture to new heights...after all, "it's 
for your own good."

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How the f*ck do I install .xpi plugins ?
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 04:46:30 -0500

David Dorward wrote:
> 
> Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> > On Sun, 7 Jan 2001 11:57:41 +0000, David Dorward wrote:
> > >Mozilla is BETA (or Alpha, I'm not sure). That means it isn't finished,
> > >but what has been done is available for you to try if you so want.
> >
> > Yeah, like every browser available for Linux. That's the problem.
> 
> Netscape isn't beta, nor is Konqueror

Netscape: no
Mozilla: yes

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: Nick Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does Linux envy Microsoft?
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 09:47:20 +0000

"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:

> Nick Condon wrote:
> >
> > Perry Pip wrote:
> >
> > > And to think they pride themselves in being objective. I can only
> > > wonder if Ayn Rand was really such a bigot or whether this is a bunch
> > > of people misusing her name.
> >
> > No, she was a bigot. I knew an Objectivist who insisted I would see the light
> > if I read Ayn Rand's stuff, so I tried reading "Atlas Unshrugged". When I
> > said she was a selfish bigot he told me I didn't "get" it.
>
> Since when does equality of opportunity and equality before the law
> equal bigotry?

It doesn't. But since those two things have been claimed by every *ism since the
Enlightenment, it's hardly a distinguishing characteristic of Objectivism.

Rand was an extreme individualist who claimed altruism was immoral (i.e. she was
selfish). She also had very little tolerence for those whose opinions differed to
hers (i.e. she was a bigot).

"Selfish" and "Bigot", look 'em up in the dictionary.


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