Linux-Advocacy Digest #769, Volume #31 Sat, 27 Jan 01 12:13:05 EST
Contents:
Re: Whistler predictions... (Charlie Ebert)
Re: How long does your box run for? (Mark Styles)
Re: Microsoft DEATH NECKLESS is COMPLETE!!! (Charlie Ebert)
Re: Chad Myers caught in lie again!!! ("Joseph T. Adams")
Re: 3100 W2K Adv Servers deployed accross Europe ("Chad Myers")
Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?) ("Chad Myers")
Re: New Microsoft Ad :-) (T. Max Devlin)
Re: New Microsoft Ad :-) (T. Max Devlin)
Re: New Microsoft Ad :-) (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Microsoft DEATH NECKLESS is COMPLETE!!! (Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?=)
Re: How long does your box run for? (Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?=)
Re: you guys suck and so does your os! (.)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (.)
Re: A salutary lesson about open source (T. Max Devlin)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (.)
Re: Windows 2000 (T. Max Devlin)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (.)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Johan Kullstam)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (.)
Re: Whistler predictions... (Charlie Ebert)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Whistler predictions...
Reply-To: Charlie Ebert:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 16:03:26 GMT
In article <bjsc6.1011$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>>
>> Okay. You've called me an idiot here so let's do some math.
>>
>>
>> By your own growth estimates it will be $411 using your figures.
>
>No, it will be the *EXACT SAME PRICE*. The only reason NT4 is cheaper today
>is because it's discontinued. That doesn't mean the price has gone up just
>because the previous versions price went down. By your logic the cost of a
>new car goes up every year when the previous years model's are reduced in
>price to sell them off.
This is funny. Yes Erik. Your right. The price of last
years cars do go down to get them OFF the lot to make room
for new models! Very good! You get a cookie!
And the price of NEW models is higher than the price of NEW
models from last year! Right again! You get another cookie!
>
>> If you take my figures it's $648 at projected growth.
>>
>> Your figures come from amazon and mine come from CompUSA.
>>
>> If you add both our estimates up and divide them by 2
>> you come up with $530 exactly.
>
>Use real figures.
>
Okay, well I see you agree with me then.
Hands down!
I used YOUR figures you said YOUR figures are discounted
as NT is discontinued.
So my estimate of $648 is probably closer than your estimate of $411.
Even at $411 per full install for Whistler, Microsoft has begun the
process of going out of business!
$411 much less $530 is a fucking lot of money for somebody to PAY
for THEIR os on a new computer or even to upgrade the one they
have at home.
Who is crazy enough to *PAY* this fucking bill EF?
At these prices Mainframe access is far cheaper!
Charlie
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From: Mark Styles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How long does your box run for?
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 10:57:19 -0500
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 12:52:05 +0000, "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I'm curious, so I'd thought I'd fire off a question:
>
>How many of you leave your Linux boxen on 24/7 and how many of you switch
>them off every night?
My Linux box is up 24/7. My two Windows boxes are supposed to be too,
but more often than not they've suffered some kind of fatal exception
during the night.
I rebooted my Linux box on Thursday night to upgrade the kernel, that
was the first reboot since a power cut 2 weeks before. My personal
uptime record is 93 days.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft DEATH NECKLESS is COMPLETE!!!
Reply-To: Charlie Ebert:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 16:08:10 GMT
In article <euit49.1h4.ln@gd2zzx>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>I've often wondered why this fact didn't draw more attention. NT5
>was supposed to be the one OS for all purposes.
>
>> Funny but, in Linux land there is only ONE OS which is
>> supported and that's Linux. No-matter what machine
>> you may be running on, Linux is consistent on all of
>> them. You could be running a mac or an S390, the
>> OS base is the same to the user.
>
>Microsoft just don't understand this and it is one reason why
>they have lost the server market. The main reason of course is
>instability and non-existant security.
>
>> They are insane to even believe they can compete with an OS
>> like Linux. There are just a FEW computers left which don't
>> have a Linux port working for them. Just a few.
>
>They 'bet the farm' on w2k. They lost but they have so much cash
>they can ride the storm. They are now betting the farm on the
>xbox and .net. I will be surprised if xbox is as big a success
>as they need but .net will be DOA. Microsoft will be around for
>a long time but their domination of the PC market will disappear
>long before 2005. They will be a medium sized applications
>developer in 2005 under new management.
To consider that the 3 CD's you make to install Debian will perform
the tasks of Office and Home, Server or Workstation really gives
credit to the people developing this system.
It's a goal Microsoft has admittedly been pursuing for years.
And your right sir. Microsoft won't just have 4 OS's to support.
I thought it would be 9X, Main, and 64 bit version workstation and
server, but we have to remember the main server 32 bit versions
also. Then we have the problem of Alpha support combined with
a failing cash sucker of an embedded product.
They have more .net losses then they have gains.
Charlie
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From: "Joseph T. Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Chad Myers caught in lie again!!!
Date: 27 Jan 2001 16:15:17 GMT
Chad Myers apparently wrote (quoting second-hand since he's in my
killfile):
:>When Red Hat, SuSE, Caldera, et al ship with Resier
:>or ext3 as the default, then I'll stop bashing Linux for
:>this horrible weakness.
There is no reason to make anything other than ext2 the default FS.
I do use ReiserFS, and like it a lot, but the problems that it solves
simply aren't problems for most people. The bigfile patches have been
available for years now for those who need them (as have
enterprise-class 64-bit systems), and a properly administered
production system doesn't crash or lose power without a proper
shutdown (possibly initiated by the UPS), and therefore doesn't need
quick recovery after a crash or abrupt power loss.
Joe
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: 3100 W2K Adv Servers deployed accross Europe
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 16:02:37 GMT
"kiwiunixman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> where has your reasoning been. I have been listening to Microsoft's speechs
> since NT was first encarnated, and not once, have they ever achieved what
> they wanted, that is, to be the almighty UNIX bashing OS.
Who holds the #1 - #4 spots on the TPC.org TPC-C performance rankings?
Thank you.
<SNIP more ignorant banterings from a clueless individual>
*PL0NK*
-Chad
>
> "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:08pc6.27746$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > "kiwiunixman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > hence, Microsoft has a agenda to ensure that it works....FUCK THE COST
> AND
> > > MESS! MAKE IT WORK!....the words of win-zombies over-lord, Bill Gates.
> > >
> > > kiwiunixman
> >
> > Ah yes, the ever-present Penguinista voice of reason.
> >
> > -Chad
> >
> > >
> > > "Conrad Rutherford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:3a6ec863$0$45732$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > >
> > > > "kiwiunixman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > news:94lfh7$ur$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > I've actually talked to some inside Microsoft people, and Microsoft
> > > > actually
> > > > > sponsered the roll out etc, hence, not really a sign that Windows is
> > > > > superior, just shows how much marketing and con-job muscle Microsoft
> > > has.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I've talked to some people involved in the roll out and it was
> supported
> > > by
> > > > MS but hardly sponsored.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?)
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 16:04:15 GMT
"Paul Colquhoun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 04:37:40 GMT, Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> |Chad Myers wrote:
> |>
> |> "Kevin Ford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> |> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> |> > T. Max Devlin once wrote:
> |> > >Said Chad Myers in alt.destroy.microsoft on Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:34:36
> |> > > [...]
> |> > >>It's interesting then, now that FAT has moved on, whereas ext2fs
> |> > >>has not. (NOTE: I realize FAT sucks, I'm not trying to claim it's
> |> > >>better than ext2fs, just more updated).
> |> > >
> |> > >Guffaw.
> |> > >
> |> >
> |> > Hmmm..... what's ext3 and reiser then
> |>
> |> Where are ext2 and reiser? Still not shipping or production.
> |> They're not the default fs' on the major distros, they're
> |> only included (on some) as an at-your-on-risk kind of deal.
> |>
> |> When Red Hat, SuSE, Caldera, et al ship with Resier
> |> or ext3 as the default, then I'll stop bashing Linux for
> |> this horrible weakness.
> |>
> |> -Chad
> |
> |Actually, I'd keep bashing Linux about that, by your criterion,
> |since ext3 inherits your hated 2GB limit for file size.
>
>
> Umm, no, it dosn't inherit this limit from ext2, since ect2 dosn't
> have that limit either.
ext3 doesn't have the limit, but ext2 does to some extent. There's
a half-fix, but applications still must implement it, which many
have not.
-Chad
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: New Microsoft Ad :-)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 16:23:59 GMT
Said Edward Rosten in alt.destroy.microsoft on Sat, 27 Jan 2001 15:22:57
[...]
>> But we
>> had this arg before, and you can always use a Postscript printer driver
>> to write the postscript to a file.
>
>Not always. I managed once to import a word draw picture in to LaTeX
>using the postscript driver for windows, but the postscript had to be
>edited by hamnd in order to get it to work with GS. I don't know if it
>was a probleb with GS, though. Also, I've tried exporting staroffice
>pictures using the PS diver with no luck. They print OK, but once you
>import them in to something, all they produce is a blank rectangle.
Missing the preview bitmap. The 'postscript' part worked fine, but I
don't think you can create an 'encapsulated postscript graphic' with
hand manipulation. You need a graphics program that actually creates
EPF files and can put a preview in (the bitmap on the screen still isn't
what's to be printed, but at least it gets closer than a blank
rectangle); you can't do it by monkeying around with printers, AFAIK.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: New Microsoft Ad :-)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 16:24:37 GMT
Said Edward Rosten in alt.destroy.microsoft on Sat, 27 Jan 2001 15:17:18
+0000;
>In article <94sogk$5lf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "ono" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
>>> So you didn't buy Visio because is was non-MS software? (Cutting off
>>> your
>> Not exactly. I just knew that there existed a product called visio, I
>> just didn't know it was that good. When ms bought it and integrated it
>> into it's office line I gave it a try and liked it immediately. What I
>> like about office is that all products fit nicely together, that you get
>> cool and solid installers and that they are a lot more stable then the
>> competition (unless you install crapy software on the same box). The
>> reason I started to give the ms-only pc a try was because of netscape
>> 4.0.. (which really messed up my machine!). After that I converted from
>> NS
>> to IE and from FrameMaker to Word. (and I never looked back!).
>
>
>You went _from FrameMaker *to* Word?!
>
>*boggle*
"And never looked back!"
Guffaw.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: New Microsoft Ad :-)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 16:25:07 GMT
Said ono in alt.destroy.microsoft on Sat, 27 Jan 2001 16:05:02 +0100;
>> Wow. A real live Microsoft employee. Right here in
>> alt.destroy.microsoft. :-D
>Thats not correct, I'm in A.L.S :-),
Well, believe it or not, you're in alt.destroy.micrsoft, too. Doh!
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft DEATH NECKLESS is COMPLETE!!!
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 16:34:30 +0100
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> Just a few? How many is a few? Apple II, Commodore 64, PET, trs-80,
> color computer, Altair, TS-1000/ZX-81, Unisys A and B systems, CDC Cyber
> systems, Cray I, II, III, XMP and YMP, ETA 1, Connection Machines,
> RS-6000, AS/400,
> IBM System 36/38, Any number of VAX systems, IBM 43xx, Tandems, HP 9000,
> Psion...
>
> I could go on for quite some time you know for systems that don't have
> Linux ports.
>
>
Well, now you have to take that AS/400 off the list. IBM is working on that
Linux-port and Beta is expected later this year (native mode, naturally).
By the way, to include Apple II, TRS-80 etc on that list just shows that
you don't have a clue. These machines certainly have more brain than you
show by this argument.
Microsoft is supporting Intel and Alpha and nothing else (and that only for
the NT-versions of Wintendo(tm), consumer-products like wintendo9xx are
left out.)
> Never looked at the number of processors supported by CE, have you?
Well, i don't ask my pocket-calculator either what os it's working on. CE
is just plain dumb, it's Wintendo(tm) made even smaller (if thats possible
at all). Word for CE is little better than a slightly extended NotePad from
Win3.1. You must be kidding to include CE-machines in the same sentence
as computing.
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From: Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How long does your box run for?
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 17:03:57 +0100
Edward Rosten wrote:
> How many of you leave your Linux boxen on 24/7 and how many of you switch
> them off every night?
>
I leave them on except I'm leaving house for longer than 2 days. That's to
say, the last time was 3 days ago when I went off 700 Kilometers (450
miles) for a few days. They were on defore several month.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Subject: Re: you guys suck and so does your os!
Date: 27 Jan 2001 16:27:02 GMT
Christian Beaumont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> By the way, the other question for you, reading my mail - do you think I am
> pro Linux or against?
Not that anyone really gives a shit, but no one who is pro-linux would ever
use Outlook Express.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 27 Jan 2001 16:27:49 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> . wrote:
>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Certain countries (Norway comes to mind) are very friendly towards
>>> choice and freedom, but not 'Europe' in general.
>>
>>
>> Netherlands: all the freedom of norway with 1. half the taxes and
>> 2. more to do.
> ^^^^^^^^
> red lights hurt my eyes :P
Yeah well, thats only part of it...:)
Theres stuff open in Amsterdam and Rotterdam after 6pm. :P
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: A salutary lesson about open source
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 16:29:13 GMT
Said Chad Myers in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat, 27 Jan 2001 01:14:47
>"Steve Mading" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:94sevm$i7m$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> : So you would deny that Dell obtains a significant, if not
>> : majority of their revenue from the web? (If you would,
>> : you'd be wrong).
>>
>> You weren't talking about just Dell. You were talking about
>> the entire Fortune 500. Dell is not a typical representative
>> of the Fortine 500. You are so fscking dishonest.
>
>Ah, so now everything has to fit into your narrow view of
>what is "representative"?
>
>You said it wasn't, I showed you were wrong, now you change
>the goal lines again.
>
>Would you consider Merril Lynch, Fidelity, Hewlett-Packard,
>Compaq, MCI, Morgan Stanely Dean Witter, Motorola, Intel,
>Ingram Micro, Time Warner, and Microsoft representative?
>
>Those are all companies from the Top 100 of the Fortune
>500 list. These are all companies who have huge stakes
>in the web. They also have revenues over $19million.
>There are many more which I didn't mention.
>
>So, just admit you're wrong and let's move on.
More on the Fortune 500:
The company's silence regarding the series of failures that brought down
its websites this week also left support people in other organizations
scrambling for answers.
Denny Callahan is in charge of a Fortune 500 company network that
serves many remote and mobile workers. On Wednesday, Callahan got at
least three dozen calls from users, all claiming that the "Internet was
down."
"MSN was their default home page and they use Hotmail for e-mail
because they can access it from anywhere," Callahan said. "OK, fine,
their reaction was like flipping a light switch, not getting any light,
and assuming the entire state's power grid is down. But they needed
their e-mail, so I called Microsoft to find out what was up, bounced
around in voice mail for a while, and gave up."
http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,41435,00.html
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 27 Jan 2001 16:29:17 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> . wrote:
>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <94snje$ekf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) wrote:
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> Wasnt there something about a government BY the people and FOR the
>>>> people written down somewhere?
>>>
>>> ...
>>
>>
>>> The US is a republic not a democracy. Kindly read the Federalist Papers
>>> for the rationale behind not trusting the populace. It has a government
>>> of laws, and the laws in the state of Florida were fairly clear, and
>>> the polling stations had signs giving instructions that voters should
>>> make sure that their ballots were punched through and to remove hanging
>>> chads. And if they double-punched, they could ask for new ballot papers.
>>
>>
>> Ah, you dont have a very good understanding of what happened in florida.
>>
>> You're one of those insane federalists who believes that his government
>> is incapable of doing any sort of wrong, arent you?
>>
>> I'll bet you believe in god too, dontcha?
>>
>> Thats very sweet.
>>
> yeah <sarcasm> what a horrid idea to actually believe in God huh? <sarcasm>
> Considering the US was founded on Christian beliefs I find this normal
> and hopeful that people might actually have a set of morals not based on
> their own ideology (which would be inherently imperfect given we are human).
And thus the root of the binding of church and state. While its quite alright
to make laws about morality, it is plainly NOT alright to make laws about
CHRISTIAN morality uniquely.
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 2000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 16:32:54 GMT
Said Karel Jansens in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat, 27 Jan 2001
>"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
>>
>> Said Karel Jansens in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat, 27 Jan 2001
>> >"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> So why would anyone come out with a "new version" which used wine when
>> >> they already had native code? And why wouldn't you think its a bit more
>> >> than a coincidence when they are very soon thereafter "bought" by
>> >> Microsoft? You don't actually think MS might have had a "meeting" or
>> >> something with them, do you?
>> >>
>> >
>> >The "native" linux versions of WordPerfect (6, 7 and 8) (*) were done
>> >by SDC (Software Development Corporation), a company that was set up
>> >by a bunch of old WordPerfect Corp employees. Corel does not own the
>> >codebase of those versions and there were significant (and very
>> >visible) differences between the Corel (windows) versions of
>> >WordPerfect and the SDC linux versions.
>> >
>> >It is my understanding that Corel wanted more control over the linux
>> >versions of WordPerfect (or possibly that SDC went belly-up), hence
>> >the Wine-based port of PerfectOffice 2000.
>> >
>> >Bit of a shame, really. WP8 is a decent product: not overly stable
>> >(but rock solid when compared to WineOffice!) and IMHO a bit of a dog
>> >when it comes to soft font support, but it truly gives you that good
>> >ole' WordPerfect feel on linux. It would have been even better if SDC
>> >hadn't built it with Motif.
>> >
>> >Regards,
>> >
>> >
>> >Karel Jansens
>> >
>> >(*) It is my understanding that the code is still largely based on
>> >WordPerfect 5.1 for NeXT which, as wordprocessors go, is as close as
>> >you ever get to a Dream Come True.
>>
>> Thank you, Karel, from the bottom of my heart. Such gems of information
>> are what we all fantasize about when we post to Usenet.
>>
>Oh, chucks. <blush>
>
>Hey! You weren't being sarcastic, were you?
No, but I was laying it on a little thick. ;-)
Seriously, though; great post.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 27 Jan 2001 16:33:04 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Conversely, in a 1994 interview, Gates proclaimed that one of his goals is
> to collect a surcharge for EVERY financial transaction on the planet.
> Translation: he wants to pick everybody's pocket, even if it's
> settling for one penny at a time.
Indeed, and im glad you brought up this difference.
Gates is exactly the sort of person who would have been up against a wall
during WWII in germany.
Thus, the interesting comparison of Gates and hitler; they surely would
have despised eachother and Gates would have probably ended up dead right
quick.
Note that this does not make hitler into anything except what he actually
was; a syphallis-ridden homocidal maniac.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 16:34:37 GMT
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "." wrote:
> >
> > In comp.os.linux.advocacy Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Finally, as for US politics, better bland/boring politics and a diverse
> > > and vibrant society than the reverse.
> >
> > I think we can all agree that what happened in florida during this past
> > election could be defined at the very least as a highly disorganized and
> > flawed state electoral system.
>
>
> No...merely corrupt Demoncrook National Committee people playing
> footsie with corrupt Demoncrook county election officials and even
> more corrupt Demoncrook Florida Supreme Starchamber
> dictat^H^H^H^H^^H^Hjustices.
the only difference was that the republicrooks owned the higher
court. they are both equally bogus.
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 27 Jan 2001 16:34:41 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> . wrote:
>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> "." wrote:
>>>
>>>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> As for corrupt legislators, vote 'em out. "Oh but those nasty evil
>>>>> corporations give so much money for TV ads." Tough. Go door to door if
>>>>> you believe in something. Get others to do the same. Incite the
>>>>> electorate. Don't bitch & moan. Tom Foley, then the Speaker of the US
>>>>> House of Representatives, should have had a safe seat in congress, but
>>>>> he was voted out in 1994 (not saying that was a good thing or not). It
>>>>> can be done, but it does take work.
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>
>>>> As has been shown beyond the shadow of a doubt in the latest elections
>>>> in the united states, your vote DOES NOT COUNT.
>>>>
>>>> Happy dreamworld,
>>>>
>>>> -----.
>>>
>>
>>> Sour grapes? You sound like your guy didn't get in. ;-)
>>
>>
>> I despise them both. :)
>>
> why is having a guy as President that actually has a universal set of
> morals such a bad thing? Some people view having a good moral
> background as more important than being able to supposedly invent the
> Internet or 'putting the economy back on track'. They are only his
> morals in the fact that he has embraced them, just like most other
> Christians in the world. You can't say he shouldn't share them b/c they
> are God's to share, not his. If Bush dies those morals still exist, even
> if a lot of people like making their own.
"This is not a christian nation"
--Thomas Jefferson*
*an interesting thing for a man who translated parts of the old, and all
of the new testement from their original languages
=====.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Subject: Re: Whistler predictions...
Reply-To: Charlie Ebert:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 16:35:41 GMT
In article <d5it49.1h4.ln@gd2zzx>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert) wrote:
>>
>> Doing a backup of your W2k server is futile.
>>
>> It was futile under NT also.
>>
>> If you loose your motherboard or your PC, and you buy
>> a new one and restore the backup, it's worthless.
>
>This is so true. I have upgraded my PC three times. Initially I had a
>486 ISA only Mobo. I upgraded it to a PCI/ISA mobo as I wanted better
>graphics performance. Linux booted with no problem and I only had to
>reconfigure X for the new graphics card. Windows required a complete
>reinstall.
>
>I then upgraded to a completely new PC with a Pentium 133MHz. I installed
>my disk and it booted no problem. Windows? A complete reinstall.
>
>I now have another PC. AMD K6-III cpu. Installed my old disk and Linux
>booted without problem. Windows? No problem! I had ditched Windows
>long before I bought this PC. :-)
>
>By the way Charlie, I am a recent Debian convert. I always liked Debian's
>package management but HATED dselect. It just wasn't intuitive to me.
>Recently I bought Storm Linux. The instalation is the easiest yet. It
>is 100% Debian underneath and comes with a GUI interface to apt-get if
>you prefer not to use the cli. Having used SLS, RedHat, SuSE and Storm
>Linux I just love the choice.
What drove me to debian was the quality issues popping up with Redhat.
Then there's suse, Mandrake and others and they are just improved
RedHat's. At least that's the way Suse used to be back in 97-98.
Debian is the most thoroughly tested OS there is.
I came to debian for it's ease of upgrade path, it's rock solid
stability, it's bug free condition.
I have not found a single bug in my 2.2 R2 since they released it.
Charlie
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