Linux-Advocacy Digest #807, Volume #31 Sun, 28 Jan 01 22:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: Global Configuration tool (WAS: Re: linux does NOT suck (oh yes it does) )
(Charlie Ebert)
Re: KDE Hell ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Whistler, yet another Windows push. (Michel Catudal)
Re: Windows is fired again ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Whistler, yet another Windows push. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Whistler predictions... ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Windows is fired again (Paul Hustava)
Re: Global Configuration tool (WAS: Re: linux does NOT suck (oh yes it (Chris
Ahlstrom)
Re: XFS 1.0 is getting close! (Charlie Ebert)
Re: Whistler, yet another Windows push. (Michel Catudal)
Re: Lookout! The winvocates have a new FUD strategy! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Whistler predictions... (Ed Allen)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux,alt.microsoft.sucks
Subject: Re: Global Configuration tool (WAS: Re: linux does NOT suck (oh yes it
does) )
Reply-To: Charlie Ebert:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 02:36:24 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>On Mon, 29 Jan 2001 01:25:58 GMT, Giuliano Colla
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>>Ever heard the word "monopoly"?
>>Nothing to do with "good".
>
>But everything to do with:
>
>"Your presentation won't run on my computer so you don't get the
>contract"!!!!
>
This is EXACTLY what we told one salesman 4 years ago who
mailed us a presentation in an E-mail. It won't run
on NT so we're not interested!
Good one Flathead!
>
>Flatfish
>Why do they call it a flatfish?
>Remove the ++++ to reply.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: KDE Hell
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 21:37:19 -0500
Jim Richardson wrote:
>
> On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 06:08:24 GMT,
> T. Max Devlin, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> brought forth the following words...:
>
> >Said Jim Richardson in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat, 27 Jan 2001
> >>On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 18:30:10 GMT,
> >> T. Max Devlin, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> brought forth the following words...:
> >>
> >>>>I wouldn't call capital hill an "upward" one for a Republican. Ashcroft is
> >>>>going to be the next Attourney General. Oh well. I suppose he couldn't
> >>>>possibly be worse than Janet was, I mean, come on. WACO. They wanted to
> >>>>crusify Reno after THAT one, and she was a Democrat!
> >>>
> >>>I would MUCH rather have a militant Attorney General who fire-bombs
> >>>fundamentalist extremists who think they're God and are stockpiling
> >>>weapons than one who believes that the US is a Christian Nation and will
> >>>be a puppet for the Pope and the New Right*. The threat to liberty is
> >>>becoming rather frightening. America may be entering a very dark time.
> >>
> >>The BD's were not stockpiling weapons, they had fewer arms per person than the
> >>average Texas home (2 I think.)
> >
> >Counting the children, no doubt. When someone has a crate of assault
> >weapons, grenades, and maybe the odd rocket launcher, they're
> >'stockpiling', as far as I am concerned, no matter what the per capita
> >weapon count happens to be.
>
> Except that there were no grenades, no rocket launchers, and the only "assault
> weapons" were the ones the feds brought to town.
>
> >
> >>>* It is VITALLY important to recognize that Reno did *NOT* firebomb the
> >>>Davidians, but Ashcroft (and Bush, and the entire Republican party, in
> >>>fact) *are* politically influenced heavily by the Christian Coalition.
> >>
> >>Reno (via the various fed three letter agencies at the time) fired incendiary
> >>rounds into a wooden structure, used CS gas with a flammable propellant,
> >>refused to allow fireengines access to the church, and in general, lied and
> >>missrepresented the situation from day one.
> >
> >Yea, right.
>
> Truth is truth, whether it makes you uncomfortable or not is irrelevent. The
> feds lied about a drug lab (they later admitted it was a lie) about child abuse
> (which is not even in the federal jurisdiction in the first place.) and about
> the actions they took. There wasn't a single day of the siege that went by,
> without the feds lieing about something.
That...and a FEDERAL DISTRICT COURT ruled *AGAINST* the various 3-letter agencies.
>
> --
> Jim Richardson
> Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
> WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
> Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Whistler, yet another Windows push.
Date: 28 Jan 2001 20:42:19 -0600
"." a écrit :
> Whilst downloading scores of binaries from select newsgroups under windowsME,
> I discovered that the client im using for downloading has a severe memory
> leak problem.
>
> I let it run anyhow.
>
> Right up until the bluescreen.
>
> Yep, thats stability alright.
It's a nice blue though isn't it?
I hope I don't have to see those when I go vote.
"Your application has caused a page fault, press OK
to vote again for George Bush or ctrl Alt Esc to reboot"
--
Tired of Microsoft's rebootive multitasking?
then it's time to upgrade to Linux.
http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat
We have all kinds of links
and many SuSE 7.0 Linux RPM packages
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows is fired again
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 21:39:56 -0500
Paul Hustava wrote:
>
> Now let's see you try to delete that silly file named /dev/null under Linux.
> But seriously, you know CON is the MS-Dos device name that lives in memory. It
> usually refers to the screen. Why Linux won't let you creat it puzzles me.
> Linux also won't let you create com1 on an MS-Dos filesystem
>
However, you are free to make as many other files named 'null' in
ANY other directory besides /dev.
Why does Microshaft prohibit using the filename 'con' in ANY directory????
Does the console exist in every directory?
If so....WHAT THE FUCK FOR?
> Try `touch clock$` on /windows/desktop next time your're in Linux, then try
> deleting it from Windows (woo-HOO).
>
> (What am I doing here, I must be really bored)
>
> In article <95295d$7ti$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) wrote:
> >
> >C:\WINDOWS\Desktop>mkdir con
> >Unable to create directory
> >
> >Ok, no problem, ill just do it with the "GUI"
> >
>
> --
> Paul Hustava - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> PGP key found in the ususal places
> If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving is not for you.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Whistler, yet another Windows push.
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 21:41:34 -0500
Chris Clement wrote:
>
> "J Sloan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Chris Clement wrote:
> >
> > > "J Sloan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >
> > > > Linux fits the bill right now for 95% of what users need.
> > >
> > > Not it certainly does not. Can I install Quicken, Starcraft, and other
> > > popular software? Not without tweaking Wine. Not something 95% of
> > > consumers want to deal with.
> >
> > 95% of users do not run starcraft, quicken, etc.
> >
> > The majority simply need email and web browsing,
> > maybe a quick editor to bang out a recipe or a letter
> > to grandma.
> >
> > Paying the windows tax for this makes little sense.
> >
> > I use Linux as my primary work environment, and
> > have for some years. I enjoy the advantages of no
> > bluescreens, no virii, none of the black magic or
> > irritating limitations of windows.
> >
> > Is Linux perfect? not yet, but it gives me far less
> > grief than windows. Are there windows programs
> > that I'd like to see ported to Linux? of course.
> >
> > However, until they are ported, I find alternatives.
> >
> > There are more than enough instances of each type of
> > application to fully enable me both to work and to play,
> > in a 100% Linux environment.
>
> No, I disagree. Most consumers are indeed going to want to buy additional
> software and they are going to want to install it without having to learn
> what about tar or rpm. Bottom line: Can you walk into any software store
Fine...write a front-end for installing.
Problem solved.
> with the confidence that they will have software for your system?
> Unfortunately, the answer is no with Linux. The average consumer is going
> to say forget the alternatives and pay the additional money for Windows.
> They will find more value in paying those extra few dollars than they would
> getting Linux for free.
>
> Certainly everyone has had problems with Windows. But the same is true with
> Linux. All one need do is look around the newsgroups for Linux problems to
> see that. There is NO OS that does not have problems.
>
> Chris
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 21:46:50 -0500
Jim Richardson wrote:
>
> On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 15:49:07 -0500,
> Aaron R. Kulkis, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> brought forth the following words...:
>
> >Jim Richardson wrote:
> >>
> >> On Fri, 26 Jan 2001 19:10:20 -0500,
> >> Aaron R. Kulkis, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> brought forth the following words...:
> >>
>
> <snip>
>
> >> >> The US is a republic not a democracy. Kindly read the Federalist Papers
> >> >> for the rationale behind not trusting the populace. It has a government
> >> >> of laws, and the laws in the state of Florida were fairly clear, and
> >> >> the polling stations had signs giving instructions that voters should
> >> >> make sure that their ballots were punched through and to remove hanging
> >> >> chads. And if they double-punched, they could ask for new ballot papers.
> >> >>
> >> >> Maybe there's a good reason for literacy tests after all.
> >> >
> >> >Personally, I think that EVERYONE in America should have to apply for
> >> >citizenship, just like immigrants.
> >> >
> >> >How many of the "government owes me a paycheck for my mere existance"
> >> >ignorami would be prevented from voting until they demonstrated an
> >> >understanding of our history and Constitution in a Citizenship application.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Odds are, the Demoncrooks would quit pandering to the lazy welfare
> >> >crowd....as these idiots wouldn't EVER pass the requirements of
> >> >citizenship if they weren't granted them by an unfortunate accident
> >> >of birth.
> >> >
> >>
> >> I'd sure like to see high schools requiring passing the citizenship test as
> >> part of graduation... But make the teachers take it too.
> >
> >No need...as long as the teachers are prevented from voting until they
> >do pass a citizenship test.
> >
>
> they still fill the heads of students with mush. Maybe if they knew more,
> they'd know better...
I don't care...as long as shit-heads are prevented from voting, I really
don't care how many are produced.
However...typical market forces would force even teachers to learn the Constitution.
>
> --
> Jim Richardson
> Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
> WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
> Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Whistler predictions...
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 21:48:23 -0500
Nik Simpson wrote:
>
> "Ed Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:952920$cj4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In article <XI_c6.5159$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > Nik Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >"Charlie Ebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >>
> > >> If you have A company which is running Linux on last years
> > >> Pentium II and using Gnome to conduct business, that company
> > >> will be *more* profitable than the company who's thrown all
> > >> their Pentium II's out to buy a new machine with W2k installed.
> > >>
> > >
> > >Not if you throw in the cost to retrain all the staff etc. If the
> economics
> > >were so clear, it would have already happened., but in any real business
> > >decision you take into account more than just raw hardware/software
> costs,
> > >otherwise SUN would have been out of business years ago.
> > >
> > At some point that old "retraining" FUD falls to the cost
> > differential, otherwise DOS would still be the thing most businesses
> > use.
>
> It's not FUD, and yes at some point it may be outweighed by other factors,
> but right now, it's not even close.
[Spot the red herring]
Yes...if you have 50% turnover in less than 2 weeks, then, certainly,
training costs could outweigh everything else.
On the other hand, if you have 50% turnover/month, then your company
has FAR more serious problems.
>
> >
> > Businesses will use whatever they believe will be most cost
> > effective and their employees will use the company supplied tools.
>
> And cost-effective includes a lot of factors beyond the basic cost of the
> OS.
>
> --
> Nik Simpson
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Hustava)
Subject: Re: Windows is fired again
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 02:50:46 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Paul Hustava wrote:
>>
>> Now let's see you try to delete that silly file named /dev/null under Linux.
>> But seriously, you know CON is the MS-Dos device name that lives in memory.
> It
>> usually refers to the screen. Why Linux won't let you creat it puzzles me.
>> Linux also won't let you create com1 on an MS-Dos filesystem
>>
>
>However, you are free to make as many other files named 'null' in
>ANY other directory besides /dev.
>
>Why does Microshaft prohibit using the filename 'con' in ANY directory????
>
>Does the console exist in every directory?
>
>If so....WHAT THE FUCK FOR?
>
In MS-Windows File Manager (winfile.exe) if you perform a search for any
device like COM1 NUL or CON, it shows up as found in every directory.
--
Paul Hustava - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP key found in the ususal places
If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving is not for you.
------------------------------
From: Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux,alt.microsoft.sucks
Subject: Re: Global Configuration tool (WAS: Re: linux does NOT suck (oh yes it
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 02:52:21 GMT
Charlie Ebert wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >On Mon, 29 Jan 2001 01:25:58 GMT, Giuliano Colla
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Ever heard the word "monopoly"?
> >>Nothing to do with "good".
> >
> >But everything to do with:
> >
> >"Your presentation won't run on my computer so you don't get the
> >contract"!!!!
> >
>
> This is EXACTLY what we told one salesman 4 years ago who
> mailed us a presentation in an E-mail. It won't run
> on NT so we're not interested!
>
> Good one Flathead!
Any business that equates a presentation format to the
product in which it is interested is run by idiots.
"Well, you see, from what we understand, your clustering
solution is indeed powerful. But, ah, we cannot run
your slide show on our corporate systems, therefore we
cannot verify the efficacy of your system, so we'll have
to pass on your company at this time. Sorry."
Only flatfish would dream up such an inane argument.
Chris
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Subject: Re: XFS 1.0 is getting close!
Reply-To: Charlie Ebert:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 02:53:04 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>On Mon, 29 Jan 2001 01:53:20 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie
>Ebert) wrote:
>
>>In article <952dkg$lnj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Adam Warner wrote:
>>>Hi all,
>>>
>>>The XFS 0.9 Pre-Release is now available for the 2.4 kernel:
>>>http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/index.html
>>>
>>
>>Yah!
>
>Wonderful.
>
>So Linux FINALLY has what AIX has had for years.
>
Humm,
Wonder why he didn't say Windows this time?
Perhaps he actually knows Windows doesn't have
a journaled file system like a mainframe does.
Guess this makes him a Big Boy.
Charlie
>That's progress.
>
>
>Flatfish
>Why do they call it a flatfish?
>Remove the ++++ to reply.
------------------------------
From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Whistler, yet another Windows push.
Date: 28 Jan 2001 20:56:07 -0600
Chris Clement a écrit :
>
> system. Unfortunately for Linux, its GUI needs more work before it reaches
> Windows' level of stability.
Nonsense, unstable kernel 2.5.xx should start shortly and it should be no
problem reaching winblows' level of stability at that time. All you need
is to run some big apps when debugging some new buggy kernel code.
Actually there are several 2.3.xx kernel that can make you achieve that
level of stability.
--
Tired of Microsoft's rebootive multitasking?
then it's time to upgrade to Linux.
http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat
We have all kinds of links
and many SuSE 7.0 Linux RPM packages
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lookout! The winvocates have a new FUD strategy!
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 21:54:38 -0500
Charlie Ebert wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 15:30:55 -0500, mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>Has anyone noticed the new line of FUD from the Winvocates?
> >>
> >>"Linux is more stable, until you put a GUI on it."
> >
> >Fact.
> >
> >>It is getting harder and harder to convince myself this is not a concerted
> >>effort. In just the last day or so I have seen this phrase pop up more than a
> >>couple times from a few users.
> >
> >Because it is true.
> >DOS was more stable until you put a memory manager like QEMM on it.
> >Of course you couldn't play any decent games without one.
> >Same goes for Linsux.
> >Leave it sitting at the CLI and it will run forever. Leave it in the
> >back room running a server using the CLI and it will run forever.
> >Put the GUI on it, any one will do, run some applications that NORMAL
> >folks would run, like audio/video/graphics/spreadsheets and so forth
> >and the stability goes down the drain,.
> >Fact!
> >
>
> Oh bullshit. I run X on all my PC and it's up all the time.
> Running and using X has nothing to do with
> degrading stability/uptime.
Unless you're on a Microsoft-prescribed overdose of quaaludes.
>
> >>So, in response to Windows CEMENT (CE,ME,NT) Win2K has a poor MTTF, they now
> >>all respond with the above party line.
> >
> >The MTTF doesn't concern me because quite frankly my experience
> >differs. My server running Win2k is up all the time and I do heavy
> >processing of digital audio (like hours to remove clicks and scratches
> >and process using FFT) under Win98SE without a problem.
> >
> >I can't even browse the web and use pan to read news without
> >generating a timebomb in Gnome.
> >
>
> That's total bullshit. I have Netscape up all the time and
> so does my wife. We never take it down.
>
> >
> >>It isn't true at all. X, obviously, has a lower MTTF than Linux proper, but
> >>even the worst X server has a higher MTTF than 2K.
> >
> >X is a mess and is quite unstable depending upon what combination of
> >applications are running.
> >
>
> X is the most stable GUI you can buy.
> ** PERIOD **
>
> Microsoft would fall into their shit to get the stability of Gnome.
>
> Charlie
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ed Allen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Whistler predictions...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 03:00:19 GMT
In article <Ww0d6.5171$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Nik Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Yeah, but who is going to set it all for her? Her PC came with Windows &
>Office installed on it and I was able to get everything else she needed for
>Internet access setup and running in 10 minutes while I was home one
>weekend, I couldn't do the same for LINUX and that is true for many people
>whether you want to deal with it or not.
Lets just keep on deluding ourselves, OK ?
Ignore this IBM link:
http://www-4.ibm.com/software/is/mp/linux/
I could list other smaller companies but I don't have time or
inclination to become your shopping robot.
>
>This for an OS that only got basic USB support recently and that according
>to Nicholas Petreley's pro-LINUX InfoWorld column still doesn't support most
>of the USB devices he owns! If you think LINUX supports anything close to
>the range of hardware that Windows supports then you are fooling nobody but
>yourself.
>
The contracts which prevent hardware makers, which I expect you will
deny existing, will be swept away as part of the remedies when the
monopoly is dismantled.
--
FYI. When you do type "make" on the Windows NT source tree, it takes almost
38 hours for it to complete on a 4-way 400 Mhz PII System, as opposed to
about 5 minutes on Linux. Linux is not Doomed!!!!!! -- Jeff Merkey
http://boudicca.tux.org/hypermail/linux-kernel/1999/1999week26/0787.html
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