Linux-Advocacy Digest #810, Volume #31 Mon, 29 Jan 01 00:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: THOLEN IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: THOLEN IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: THOLEN IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: THOLEN IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Whistler predictions... ("Christopher L. Estep")
Re: Kernel upgrade - not bad at all (Mark Styles)
Re: KULKIS IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Linux Myths -- What I'd call Part II is here! ("Adam Warner")
Re: How long does your box run for? (Charlie Ebert)
Re: Linux Myths -- What I'd call Part II is here! (.)
Re: Linux Myths -- What I'd call Part II is here! (.)
Re: Windows is fired again (.)
Re: Sound a networks (.)
Re: Microsoft DEATH NECKLESS is COMPLETE!!! ("Gary Hallock")
Re: Linux Myths -- What I'd call Part II is here! ("Gary Hallock")
Re: Whistler predictions... (Ed Allen)
Re: Whistler predictions... ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: Whistler predictions... ("Ayende Rahien")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: THOLEN IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 22:47:39 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Aaron R. Kulkis writes:
>
> >>>>> mlw wrote:
>
> >>>>>> I am having a bit of difficulty relating this thread to anything having to do
> >>>>>> with Linux advocacy.
>
> >>>>> Regard it as a pollution control technique.
>
> >>>> Impossible, considering how much pollution you're depositing.
>
> >>> Tholen is the disease.
>
> >> Classic invective, as expected from someone who lacks a logical
> >> argument.
>
> >>> I'm the cure.
>
> >> "Arrogance and stupidity in a single package. How efficient of you."
> >> --Londo Mollari.
>
> >>> Hope that helps.
>
> >> It doesn't.
>
> >>>>> I'm hoping to convince the walking toxic waste dump to remove himself
> >>>>> from the human gene pool.
>
> >>>> Talking to yourself, Kulkis?
>
> >>> Not at all, ferret-face.
>
> >> I see you're hallucinating now. I'm not Frank Burns.
>
> > Did you piss you pants when you wrote that,
>
> Of course not, Kulkis.
Then why is your chair wet?
>
> > ferret-face....
>
> I see that you're still hallucinating. I'm not Frank Burns.
Of course not. Frank Burns was both more intelligent AND personable
than you...ferret face
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: THOLEN IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 22:49:55 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Aaron R. Kulkis writes:
>
> >>> Charlie Ebert wrote:
>
> >>>> I wrote:
>
> >>>>> Aaron R. Kulkis writes:
>
> >>>>>> mlw wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> I am having a bit of difficulty relating this thread to anything having to do
> >>>>>>> with Linux advocacy.
>
> >>>>>> Regard it as a pollution control technique.
>
> >>>>> Impossible, considering how much pollution you're depositing.
>
> >>>>>> I'm hoping to convince the walking toxic waste dump to remove himself
> >>>>>> from the human gene pool.
>
> >>>>> Talking to yourself, Kulkis?
>
> >>>> I think we've found a volunteer to test NASA's new
> >>>> space re-entry suit.
>
> >>> Alpha-tester.
>
> >> Is that what you are, Kulkis?
>
> > what's it to ya, lava fodder...
>
> Classic invective, as expected from someone who lacks a logical
> argument.
No...merely demonstrating my utter CONTEMPT for you...and ignorant
fucking fool who wouldn't recognize a logical argument if it was
tattooed to your cornea.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: THOLEN IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 22:50:56 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Aaron R. Kulkis writes:
>
> >>> Marty wrote:
>
> >>>> Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>
> >>>>> You've been hiding in academia ever since you left mom and dad's house.
> >>>>> Why is that?
>
> >>>> You're presupposing that he's left "mom and dad's house".
>
> >>> My bad.
>
> >> Interesting that one of your few correct presuppositions is something
> >> you regard as "bad".
>
> > prove it
>
> Unnecessary, Kulkis.
You're the one claiming that others are illogical.
Come on, lava fodder...DEMONSTRATE your superior logic....ferret face
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: THOLEN IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 22:51:01 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Aaron R. Kulkis writes:
>
> >>> Marty wrote:
>
> >>>> Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>
> >>>>> You've been hiding in academia ever since you left mom and dad's house.
> >>>>> Why is that?
>
> >>>> You're presupposing that he's left "mom and dad's house".
>
> >>> My bad.
>
> >> Interesting that one of your few correct presuppositions is something
> >> you regard as "bad".
>
> > prove it
>
> Unnecessary, Kulkis.
You're the one claiming that others are illogical.
Come on, lava fodder...DEMONSTRATE your superior logic....ferret face
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Christopher L. Estep" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Whistler predictions...
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 04:02:10 GMT
"Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:94t0a8$h2d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Win2k was an 80% rewrite, while Whistler is about 10-15% new code. Big
> > difference.
> >
> > As for 64 bit, if there was a differnet 64 bit version of windows out,
> they
> > might run that. But there's not.
>
> AFAIU, the difference between 32 bit & 64 bit is mainly in the HAL, NT
> itself is platform independent.
Exactly. (This is how NT for MIPS/ NT for PPC, AND NT for Alpha all existed
simultaneously for NT for x86). However, you are forgetting several things.
Itanium (IA-64) is NOT intended for personal (or even many business)
desktops. It is intended primarily for scientific workstations and
heavy-duty servers (the current XEON/UNIX market). Hence, VERY few
workstations will running Whistler Pro on Itanium.
SledgeHammer (AMD's 64-bit x86 offering) is aimed at the same market; hence,
it won't be seeing much in the way of Whistler Pro either.
In case you can't remember, XEON has been a slow seller outside Intel's
intended market for it. Itanium will be living in the same market (Itanium
is intended as Xeon's replacement).
Christopher L. Estep
------------------------------
From: Mark Styles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel upgrade - not bad at all
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 22:54:25 -0500
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 21:23:21 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Why should I have to "Get anything to work" under Linux?
>
>I don't have to "Get anything to work" under Windows, my USB devices
>just work.
I got a new scanner recently, a USB one. Had no end of problems trying
to get it to work under Windows (my Linux machine has no usb ports
unfortunately).
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: KULKIS IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 04:11:07 GMT
Aaron R. Kulkis writes:
>>>>>>> mlw wrote:
>>>>>>>> I am having a bit of difficulty relating this thread to anything
>>>>>>>> having to do with Linux advocacy.
>>>>>>> Regard it as a pollution control technique.
>>>>>> Impossible, considering how much pollution you're depositing.
>>>>> Tholen is the disease.
>>>> Classic invective, as expected from someone who lacks a logical
>>>> argument.
>>>>> I'm the cure.
>>>> "Arrogance and stupidity in a single package. How efficient of you."
>>>> --Londo Mollari.
>>>>> Hope that helps.
>>>> It doesn't.
>>>>>>> I'm hoping to convince the walking toxic waste dump to remove himself
>>>>>>> from the human gene pool.
>>>>>> Talking to yourself, Kulkis?
>>>>> Not at all, ferret-face.
>>>> I see you're hallucinating now. I'm not Frank Burns.
>>> Did you piss you pants when you wrote that,
>> Of course not, Kulkis.
> Then why is your chair wet?
On what basis do you claim that my chair is wet, Kulkis?
>>> ferret-face....
>> I see that you're still hallucinating. I'm not Frank Burns.
> Of course not.
So why did you use the term "ferret-face"?
> Frank Burns was both more intelligent AND personable than you...
Classic invective, as expected from someone who lacks a logical
argument.
> ferret face
I see that you're still hallucinating. I'm not Frank Burns.
------------------------------
From: "Adam Warner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux Myths -- What I'd call Part II is here!
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 17:12:32 +1200
Hi all,
Linux Weekly News (daily updates) is reporting this new small piece of work
by Microsoft about Linux. It appears Microsoft can no longer concentrate on
the technical capabilities of Linux so it's fantasy reporting from here on.
Here's the link:
http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/serverappliance/kempin.asp
I don't want to spoil the surprise. Suffice to say that Windows is far
better advocated in this forum than by Microsoft.
Enjoy,
Adam
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Subject: Re: How long does your box run for?
Reply-To: Charlie Ebert:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 04:14:24 GMT
In article <cuo97tc3meqh5pohunq2lgpak16mm1c83m@news>, Tim wrote:
>On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 12:52:05 +0000, "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
>>I'm curious, so I'd thought I'd fire off a question:
>>
>>How many of you leave your Linux boxen on 24/7 and how many of you switch
>>them off every night?
>
>24/7 here.
>
I have 4 running 24/7 here.
Only the portable get's turned off.
Charlie
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Subject: Re: Linux Myths -- What I'd call Part II is here!
Date: 29 Jan 2001 04:18:52 GMT
Adam Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
> Linux Weekly News (daily updates) is reporting this new small piece of work
> by Microsoft about Linux. It appears Microsoft can no longer concentrate on
> the technical capabilities of Linux so it's fantasy reporting from here on.
> Here's the link:
> http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/serverappliance/kempin.asp
> I don't want to spoil the surprise. Suffice to say that Windows is far
> better advocated in this forum than by Microsoft.
> Enjoy,
> Adam
--
"It's natural to expect there might be people doing stupid things
with computers"
---Michael Vatis, director of the FBI's national infrastructure
protection center commenting on Y2K concerns about hacker attacks
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Subject: Re: Linux Myths -- What I'd call Part II is here!
Date: 29 Jan 2001 04:19:47 GMT
. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Adam Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Linux Weekly News (daily updates) is reporting this new small piece of work
>> by Microsoft about Linux. It appears Microsoft can no longer concentrate on
>> the technical capabilities of Linux so it's fantasy reporting from here on.
>> Here's the link:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/serverappliance/kempin.asp
>> I don't want to spoil the surprise. Suffice to say that Windows is far
>> better advocated in this forum than by Microsoft.
>> Enjoy,
>> Adam
Oops, thats what I get for running a windows ssh client.
=====.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Subject: Re: Windows is fired again
Date: 29 Jan 2001 04:20:55 GMT
Paul Hustava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>>Paul Hustava wrote:
>>>
>>> Now let's see you try to delete that silly file named /dev/null under Linux.
>>> But seriously, you know CON is the MS-Dos device name that lives in memory.
>> It
>>> usually refers to the screen. Why Linux won't let you creat it puzzles me.
>>> Linux also won't let you create com1 on an MS-Dos filesystem
>>>
>>
>>However, you are free to make as many other files named 'null' in
>>ANY other directory besides /dev.
>>
>>Why does Microshaft prohibit using the filename 'con' in ANY directory????
>>
>>Does the console exist in every directory?
>>
>>If so....WHAT THE FUCK FOR?
>>
> In MS-Windows File Manager (winfile.exe) if you perform a search for any
> device like COM1 NUL or CON, it shows up as found in every directory.
Thats one hell of a FIND utility you got there, winvocates.
=====.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Sound a networks
Date: 29 Jan 2001 04:21:49 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Somebody should have told Mandrake to provide a link to it..
Why? Everyone with two braincells knows where it is. Should they
provide an instruction manual for your keyboard too?
=====.
------------------------------
From: "Gary Hallock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft DEATH NECKLESS is COMPLETE!!!
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 23:31:57 +0500
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Charlie Ebert"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I need some help Gary.
>
> Would you put the site up which has the RS/6000 port. I might need that.
> I couldn't find that earlier to show somebody.
>
> Would you please post it here and I'll write it down.
>
> Thanks
Both Suse and Yellowdog support Linux for powerpc based RS/6000s. Linux
is up and running on Power4, but I'm not sure of the status - it may
still bein beta. Suse will be supporting Power4 and I believe Redhat has
also committed support.
Gary
------------------------------
From: "Gary Hallock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Myths -- What I'd call Part II is here!
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 23:50:37 +0500
In article <952qiq$1lt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Adam Warner"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Linux Weekly News (daily updates) is reporting this new small piece of
> work by Microsoft about Linux. It appears Microsoft can no longer
> concentrate on the technical capabilities of Linux so it's fantasy
> reporting from here on.
>
> Here's the link:
> http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/serverappliance/kempin.asp
>
> I don't want to spoil the surprise. Suffice to say that Windows is far
> better advocated in this forum than by Microsoft.
>
> Enjoy, Adam
>
>
Ok, I know it's late and my eyes are getting tired, but does anyone see
anything wrong with this statement from Microsoft:
"PC users still make up less than 10% of the total world population of 500
million people".
Did they just say there are only 500 million people in the world?
Or how about this:
"Linux is simply a fad that has been generated by the media and is destined to
fall by the wayside in time. Windows 2000 will gradually overtake the Linux
share in the server market."
Did they just admit that Linux currently has a larger share of the server
market that Windows 2000? After all, how can you overtake if you are
already ahead?
Gary
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ed Allen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Whistler predictions...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 05:00:13 GMT
In article <952j11$pml$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Ayende Rahien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>"Ed Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> At some point that old "retraining" FUD falls to the cost
>> differential, otherwise DOS would still be the thing most businesses
>> use.
>
>No, reducing retraining costs is what 9x is all about.
>
>
9x is about extending the monopoly to include browsers or are you in
denial of the Findings of Fact ?
95 looked and acted completely different than Win 3.1
I recall lots of people complaining about needing to adjust. Was
that not "training" ?
Then with 98 we have a different behavior, not so drastic this time.
More lack of "training" ?
Now comes W2K and Whistler, more changes.
That "retraining" boogeyman is just the FUD I said it was.
--
FYI. When you do type "make" on the Windows NT source tree, it takes almost
38 hours for it to complete on a 4-way 400 Mhz PII System, as opposed to
about 5 minutes on Linux. Linux is not Doomed!!!!!! -- Jeff Merkey
http://boudicca.tux.org/hypermail/linux-kernel/1999/1999week26/0787.html
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From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Whistler predictions...
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 07:02:35 +0200
"Ed Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:952sis$dbi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <952j11$pml$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Ayende Rahien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >"Ed Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> At some point that old "retraining" FUD falls to the cost
> >> differential, otherwise DOS would still be the thing most
businesses
> >> use.
> >
> >No, reducing retraining costs is what 9x is all about.
> >
> >
> 9x is about extending the monopoly to include browsers or are you in
> denial of the Findings of Fact ?
>
> 95 looked and acted completely different than Win 3.1
It takes 2 minutes works to turn it to 3.1 lookalike.
> I recall lots of people complaining about needing to adjust. Was
> that not "training" ?
>
> Then with 98 we have a different behavior, not so drastic this time.
> More lack of "training" ?
>
> Now comes W2K and Whistler, more changes.
>
> That "retraining" boogeyman is just the FUD I said it was.
9x is all about not forcing the clients to lose all their olds application
(16 bits ones) and making smooth transfer to 32 bit.
NT was unsuitable for the time, because a lot of the applications that
people used were incompatible with it.
------------------------------
From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Whistler predictions...
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 07:04:17 +0200
"Christopher L. Estep" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:6X5d6.49563$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:94t0a8$h2d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> > > Win2k was an 80% rewrite, while Whistler is about 10-15% new code.
Big
> > > difference.
> > >
> > > As for 64 bit, if there was a differnet 64 bit version of windows out,
> > they
> > > might run that. But there's not.
> >
> > AFAIU, the difference between 32 bit & 64 bit is mainly in the HAL, NT
> > itself is platform independent.
>
> Exactly. (This is how NT for MIPS/ NT for PPC, AND NT for Alpha all
existed
> simultaneously for NT for x86). However, you are forgetting several
things.
>
> Itanium (IA-64) is NOT intended for personal (or even many business)
> desktops. It is intended primarily for scientific workstations and
> heavy-duty servers (the current XEON/UNIX market). Hence, VERY few
> workstations will running Whistler Pro on Itanium.
>
> SledgeHammer (AMD's 64-bit x86 offering) is aimed at the same market;
hence,
> it won't be seeing much in the way of Whistler Pro either.
>
> In case you can't remember, XEON has been a slow seller outside Intel's
> intended market for it. Itanium will be living in the same market
(Itanium
> is intended as Xeon's replacement).
I know that it's not going be very popular until the second or third IA-64
generation.
At 4K$ per unit, it makes sense.
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