Linux-Advocacy Digest #920, Volume #31 Fri, 2 Feb 01 22:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: questions (windows & Mac)....? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Lookout! The winvocates have a new FUD strategy! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Tread carefully when advocating Linux & OpenS (Steve Mading)
Re: Linux is a fad? (Karel Jansens)
Re: Goodby MS... (mlw)
Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?) (T. Max Devlin)
Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?) (T. Max Devlin)
Re: KDE Hell (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Bill Gates and Michael Dell (Steve Mading)
Re: Linux is a fad? ("--====--" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
Re: KDE Hell
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: questions (windows & Mac)....?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 01:54:53 GMT
On Fri, 2 Feb 2001 18:48:45 -0000, "Daza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>"Peter Hayes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> On Fri, 02 Feb 2001 07:27:58 -0600, Oxford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > In article <95cqc5$p3j$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "cool cool"
>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > > ******important***********
>> > > oh, I've seen this from a science magazine that they have on one page,
>> > > perha
>> > > ps it's just a commercial or an article of something else, not sure,
>have
>> > > th
>> > > is Mac OS but what's bizarre (sorry if I've misspelled) about it is
>that,
>> > > everything on the screen is like bubbles, except the menu bar on top
>> > > how amazing is that when, like say, pull down a menu from the menu
>bar,
>> > > the
>> > > drop-down menu goes like a waterdrop.
>> > > and the "windows" (or how should I properly call it?) are like bubbles
>on
>> > > th
>> > > e screen.
>> > > like, can you imagine how fantasic this thing could look like?
>>
>> Is that what's important to you? Flashily animated menus? Let's hope the
>> underlying software is more robust than Apple's current offerings, not
>that
>> that would be difficult.
>>
>> > > is this really true? like is this what they're releasing (the new
>> > > MacOS?)
>> > > I would run to to store to buy a Mac in the first day of its release
>if
>> > > it's
>> > > true.
>> > > but since that page didn't say anything about anything.
>> > > so I would hope that anyone could answer.......?
>> >
>> > Yes, it is cool!
>> >
>> > And the newest builds of OSX even allow the icons to be realtime!
>> >
>> > WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> Yes, wow, the usual Apple image over reality syndrome.
>>
>> > http://www.apple.com/macosx/theater/genie.html
>> >
>> > OSX is shapping up to be a massive event for the personal comptuer.
>> >
>> > http://www.apple.com/macosx/
>>
>> Yes, a massive event for those who like wasting money on beautifully
>> packaged junk.
>>
>> But take heart - when you tire of all the Apple flaws you can put Yellow
>> Dog Linux on it. You could then run Enlightenment and have a real OS and
>WM
>> on your PPC.
>>
>> Peter
>
>What? I think a UNIX like kernel based on FreeBSD and Mach 3.0 is a real OS.
>And you ain't seriously saying that Enlightenment is a "better" WM than
>Aqua?
>
>MacOS X is a big deal as it brings many UNIX fundamentals to a truly
>consumer friendly OS. Obviously you are IT literate enough to install,
>maintain and use Linux, but there is a VERY large group of people who just
>want to turn on a computer and use it like an appliance. Apple are leagues
>ahead of everyone else at designing hardware and software for the average
>man/women/alien in the street.
Consumer friendly and Linux used in the same sentence is an oxymoron.
These Penguinista's haven't a clue to what user friendly or consumer
friendly even means.
Nobody in their right mind would replace MacOS with Linux and even if
in a moment of insanity, they tried Linux, they would be back to MacOS
so fast you couldn't even measure it.
Setting up an iMac takes 5 steps, 3 of which describe how to get it
out of the box. Plug in the keyboard/power cord and turn it on. That's
it. It asks for your ISP and phone number and away you go on the net.
Mac users are the ULTIMATE users, because that is what they do best.
They USE their system, and are not interested in BUILDING a system.
That is why although they are somewhat zealous about the Mac platform,
you rarely hear Mac users ranting about operating systems. They rant
about applications and ease of use and the total lack of fiddling
around with an operating system.
Asking those guys to compile a kernel or edit a ppp-options file would
be like talking greek to an irishman.
Linux is an unfriendly, hostile and downright nasty operating system
that is geared toward the geek who enjoys fluttering around with text
files and goes orgasmic with each new kernel release.
It is a highly stable system until you put a GUI on it and run some
applications. That is assuming you can find applications worth running
instead of the typical hacked together junk that looks like it was
written by some kid.
Nope, the other 95 percent of the world wants user friendly, easy to
install and compatible with what ever the rest of the earth is running
and that means either Mac or Windows.
And yes the eye candy factor is big because it generally means someone
took the time to make the application look good and typically user
friendly and fun to use as well.
Take a look at the sparse, half done look of many Linux applications
and compare them to Windows or Mac applications. This type of look is
not going to impress anyone. And as for the excuse that the Linux
programs are more stable, I have found the exact opposite to be true
when using GUI applications.
Linux has a long way to go.
Flatfish
Why do they call it a flatfish?
Remove the ++++ to reply.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Lookout! The winvocates have a new FUD strategy!
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 02:54:00 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <wTmd6.2436$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Vann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Perhaps you're confused, but X isn't a specific piece of software. It's
> a specification. More specifically, it's X11R6.4, for most X servers.
> Most people in the linux world use XFree86, though, which, I admit, has
> some issues. I use 4.0.1 ( It's beta ), and the nvidia 0.9-5 drivers (
> Beta also ), and I've only had two hard X server crashes since the day I
> installed it ( Which was about an hour after it initially came out ). I
> blame that on me using a beta X server and beta drives on top of that. I
> never had 3.3.6 crash on me, ever.
To be a wee bit pedantic, X is a protocol. Xlib implements that protocol
and the toolkits are built on top of that.
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From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Tread carefully when advocating Linux & OpenS
Date: 3 Feb 2001 01:56:40 GMT
gswork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: More over this may come though in apps developed. 'For developers by
: developers' is not a good design paradigm for the average app to be
: used by the average user. We might be comfortble with command line
: parameters, computer jargon and so on but others are not. That's
: partly why Mac and MS developers spend so long on making their
: apps 'friendly'. Point and Click is not inherently evil.
The reason for the hostility is that oftentimes on those systems
point and click interfaces are the *only* way to access some
feature, and that situation "feels" wrong to someone used to
being able to script everything. For example, in Windows when
you want to set the IP address for a network card, you can do it
in the control panel. You can, in theory, also do it by altering
a value in the registry, IF (and this is a big IF) you could find
some documentation on what value to edit in there. If you could
do that, then you could script it. But that documentation is
nonexistant, because Windows (and Mac) is a GUI-first world,
where once the vendors show you how to edit something in the
GUI they feel their obligation to you, the user, is complete.
The additude seems to be, "If you want to know a little bit more
because you want to script it in the CLI, then screw you - people
like you are just a niche market, and your needs don't matter."
The fact that in the long run this attitude will come back to bite
them in the ass because there won't be anyone left with technical
know-how on their system doesn't seem to matter to these vendors.
Sure, the techie market is a very small niche market, but its
importance is far greater than its numbers would imply. This niche
is where a tech firm's future employees come from. Spurning techies
while satisfying the 99.9% of your market that isn't techie is an
excellent way to make a lot of money next quarter, but it increases
the chances that you won't even be around at all in several years.
The problem is, nobody who's running these businesses cares what
happens several years from now. Their goal is to make lots of
money today and then leave.
This is why there is hostility toward GUIs - in the past ignoramuses
have thought that GUIs made an effective *replacement* for the CLI
interfaces, when in fact BOTH are equally important.
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From: Karel Jansens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is a fad?
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 02:42:38 +0100
"--==<( Jeepster )>==--" wrote:
>
> Oh my ribs, they are sore after both
>
> a) laughing
>
> b) being poked by youir razor sharp funny finger.
>
Thanks. It's nice to know that my attempts at humour are appreciated.
> I have tried linux, mandrake, redhat, storm, turbo and even yellow dog on
> machine i borrowed for a month.
>
> Dont like them...sorry, maybe its personal taste, but i'd rather stay with
> windows 2000 where i can
>
> a) buy software off the shelves
>
Linux users get a lot for free.
> b) play the latest games
>
Many linux users have a Windows partition for that.
> c) use the latest hardware (do the words USB still strike fear into your
> heart?...it should, as far as I know only mice & keyboards are
> supported....oh dear)
>
I can't comment on that, since I'm an incredibly stingy person and
currently don't own a pc with USB interface. But as far as I
understand, quite a lot of USB devices are supported in the latest
distros. You're quite welcome to correct me, of course.
> d) not worry that the libraries will get broken if i had to install beta
> test software.
>
?
Doesn't the same - mutatis mutandis - apply if you install Windows
beta software?
> e) use a good browser rather than the beta offerings or the half finished
> offerings given to linux users. LOL - case in point Netscape 4.x/6 and
> Konqueror..... NOW thats BAD.
>
Netscape _is_ indeed bad. Mind you, IE is better, but only by a
fraction.
I'm getting Opera as soon as it becomes GA.
> f) worry about getting the latest Kernel and then buggering it all up
> because the kernel needs to be patched to enable sound, PPP etc etc rah rah
> rah
>
... but I don't worry about the latest kernel. I've got one that works
and I intend to keep it until I need to get something done that
requires a new kernel (I'm told this is a rather rare feat).
> g) I can use standard applications at home and then go into any office and
> hey, the same things...wow......
>
Ah. Well, I've got the advantage on you there. I have the luxury that
I can use whatever I want (the only boss who tells me what to do is
me, and me likes I), and I usually get away with bullying people into
sending me stuff in the format that I want.
> h) avoid arcane command line crap....i mean, who the hell wants to go
> through an entire user manual to get the sound card to initialise and then
> find it wont ?
>
Nobody.
> i) who would want to sacrifice a Windows/Windows solution for a
> Linux/Windows integrated solution until there is some more solid, documented
> applications and cases that have already tried it and detailed the pros and
> cons? Linux has a long way to go before stepping up to the corporate
> plate...
>
You erroneously presuppose that linux depends on market forces...
> Chew on that Rabid LINsUX user....
I take it you're quite happy using Windows then.
Now, this may come as a shock to you, but most linux users will have
no problem with that at all. Neither have I; if Windows is your thing,
then by all means go for it. Linux' success is not dependent on market
share as is Windows', so it's no skin of its back if you don't
convert.
But you have to explain one thing to me. Why do you think you must
post anti-linux messages in this forum? Do you only feel happy using
Windows if everyone else is? Is Windows only working satisfactory if
you can convince yourself that linux isn't? Your repetitive use of
invective and ad hominems seems to suggest that you constantly need to
reaffirm for yourself your choice of platform. If you want my opinion
(but I'm sure you don't), I'd say that you have serious hidden doubts
about your choice.
But look, that's perfectly normal; we all have. The best remedy is not
to let yourself be tied up on one platform. You say you have tried
several distributions of linux; try one of them again, but this time,
instead of going at it with the attitude of "This sux and I'm gonna
prove it!", look for the positive sides of linux. I'm the first to
admit that it is not difficult to find bad points about linux, just as
it is easy to find bad things in Windows. If you want a challenge: go
find the good points of linux. That's how I discovered linux
(substituting OS/2 for Windows, that is).
Or you can keep shouting that LINsUX SuX bIg TImE, of course. It's up
to you, whatever you think makes you the better person.
Regards,
Karel Jansens
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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Goodby MS...
Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 21:04:53 -0500
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> "mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> > >
> > > "Kool Breeze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > I managed to learn just enough MFC/Win32 to get the app going and
> > > > never learned the details, ie, 23 parameters/functions to paint a
> > > > bitmap to the screen.
> > >
> > > This is such a wild exageration that it makes the rest of your post
> suspect.
> >
> > This may, in fact be a simplification.
>
> No, he claimed that each function has 23 parameters, that is 23 parameters
> per function.
Odd, I didn't read it the same way. Perhaps it is a perception issue. Still,
Windows could be easier.
--
http://www.mohawksoft.com
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 02:05:48 GMT
Said Ayende Rahien in alt.destroy.microsoft on Mon, 29 Jan 2001 03:26:39
[...]
>One of the easiest way to overcome file system security (if you've physical
>access is simply to take the HD(s) and put them on a machine that you've
>admin/root access to. (Or isntall a fresh installation on another partion)
>If I take a ext2 disk, and put it in a machine which I've root access to,
>will the file permissions stop me? (Never tried, I don't know, I assume that
>it wouldn't)
Wouldn't it be easier just to use a boot floppy?
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 02:05:50 GMT
Said Aaron R. Kulkis in alt.destroy.microsoft on Sun, 28 Jan 2001
>"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
>>
>> Said Chad Myers in alt.destroy.microsoft on Sun, 28 Jan 2001 14:00:56
>> [...]
>> >> > Besides, Win2K has NTFS5 which doesn't have this problem anyhow.
>> >>
>> >> If so, let's hope they have better luck than these people when they
>> >> try to use Win2K for their enterprise application:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/16075.html
>> >
>> >Ah yes, the register. Constantly on the look out to make up stories
>> >that show MS in a bad light.
>>
>> "Make up"? When you spout bullshit its facts, but when someone gives
>> you facts, they're "making up stories"?
>>
>> >Of course, the obvious answer to this article is is that Delphi's
>> >admins are incompetent.
>>
>> Bwah-ha-ha-ha! *Delphi's* admins are 'incompetent'?!?
>> Bwah-ha-ha-ha-ha!
>
>On the other hand, M$ *ADMITS* to having incompetent admins.
Yes, the irony did not escape me.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: KDE Hell
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 02:05:55 GMT
Said Jim Richardson in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sun, 28 Jan 2001
> T. Max Devlin, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[...]
>>>Reno (via the various fed three letter agencies at the time) fired incendiary
>>>rounds into a wooden structure, used CS gas with a flammable propellant,
>>>refused to allow fireengines access to the church, and in general, lied and
>>>missrepresented the situation from day one.
>>
>>Yea, right.
>
>Truth is truth, whether it makes you uncomfortable or not is irrelevent. The
>feds lied about a drug lab (they later admitted it was a lie) about child abuse
>(which is not even in the federal jurisdiction in the first place.) and about
>the actions they took. There wasn't a single day of the siege that went by,
>without the feds lieing about something.
I get real skeptical when I hear stuff like that.
There wasn't a single day of the siege that went by that the Branch
Davidians shouldn't have turned themselves in and had their day in
court. Instead, they committed suicide. And that makes the government
the bad guy?
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,rec.games.frp.dnd
Subject: Re: Bill Gates and Michael Dell
Date: 3 Feb 2001 02:01:20 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Peter Seebach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In article <95evl3$e1p$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
: Artho-niti-bid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> Which of the two is smarter given the following criteria of
:>smartness:
: Since none of these are criteria for intelligence, it's pretty hard to
: measure.
: According to a national newspaper, Bill Gates has an 18 dexterity,
: and 20 charisma. Ah-hah! And his intelligence was raised to 20 in
: 1990. That's on the 2E system, but it corresponds fairly well
: with 3E, so I'd say he's probably got a 20.
I was about to ask why the hell this is in rec.games.frp.dnd.
Now I see the connection. I forgot about the Onion article.
Now it all makes sense.
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From: "--==<\( Jeepster \)>==--" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is a fad?
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 02:09:03 -0000
Nice one m8.....
Ex-Windows users are like ex-smokers...always preaching, and denying others
from doing what they used to do....
I'd call that intolerant...
thats nasty I say.....not a nice personality trait.
Shame on them....
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Sat, 3 Feb 2001 00:31:56 -0000, "--==<\( Jeepster \)>==--"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Oh my ribs, they are sore after both
> >
> >a) laughing
>
> Linux is quite funny when taken in the correct context.
>
>
> >I have tried linux, mandrake, redhat, storm, turbo and even yellow dog on
> >machine i borrowed for a month.
>
> Add SuSE, Slackware, TurboLinux, Caldera and Corel to my list.
>
> >Dont like them...sorry, maybe its personal taste, but i'd rather stay
with
> >windows 2000 where i can
>
> They all suck but for different reasons.
>
> >a) buy software off the shelves
>
> Yep.
>
> >b) play the latest games
>
> I prefer a Play station, but yes that is true as well.
>
> >c) use the latest hardware (do the words USB still strike fear into your
> >heart?...it should, as far as I know only mice & keyboards are
> >supported....oh dear)
>
> USB and Linux?
>
> Ha Ha! That's a good one. Oh sure the kernel supports it, sort of, but
> try and find devices that work. As for Mice, wheel mice are supported
> in an abortive manner as well. I can adjust the sensitivity of the
> scroll down to the pixel in Win2k. It scrolls 10 lines at a time in
> Linsux which kind of makes it pretty useless.
>
> >d) not worry that the libraries will get broken if i had to install beta
> >test software.
>
> Test software?
> Take a good look at the pile of garbage software included with the
> typical Linsux distribution and take note of how many v1.0+x versions
> you find. With the exception of stuff that has been around for a
> decade like VI or Emacs, good luck especially for Gui base programs.
>
> >e) use a good browser rather than the beta offerings or the half finished
> >offerings given to linux users. LOL - case in point Netscape 4.x/6 and
> >Konqueror..... NOW thats BAD.
>
> Yea the OS that runs the internet. Only problem is you have to use a
> set of crutches like Nutscrape to look at the internet.
> Hysterical!!!
>
> >f) worry about getting the latest Kernel and then buggering it all up
> >because the kernel needs to be patched to enable sound, PPP etc etc rah
rah
> >rah
>
> Worry?
>
> The Penguinista's LOVE that kind of crap. Seeing as they have no
> decent applications to run on their desktop's they have to have some
> way of passing the time. Compiling kernels is that way.
>
> >g) I can use standard applications at home and then go into any office
and
> >hey, the same things...wow......
>
> Sure can.
> Wait till you try and send that presentation to your boss and because
> you used Linux he can't view it.
> Lot's of fun :(
>
> Bet your job on Linsux?
> Only a fool would do so.
> >h) avoid arcane command line crap....i mean, who the hell wants to go
> >through an entire user manual to get the sound card to initialise and
then
> >find it wont ?
>
> Who needs sound?
> Look at how many messages are in the Linsux setup groups that say
> something like:
>
> Well after a month I finally got Linsux running and man it ROCKS!!
> I haven't got my scanner, camera, mouse, or any of my USB devices
> working yet, but MAN THIS OS ROCKS!! Screw MS cause Linux is the
> future!!!
>
> Yea right...
>
> As for the CLI it has it's uses but the desktop isn't one of them.
>
> >i) who would want to sacrifice a Windows/Windows solution for a
> >Linux/Windows integrated solution until there is some more solid,
documented
> >applications and cases that have already tried it and detailed the pros
and
> >cons? Linux has a long way to go before stepping up to the corporate
> >plate...
>
> While Linux is sneaking in the back door running servers and such, it
> will be a century before it becomes a standard on the desktop.
> People use Linux and they hate it. I've seen it happen over and over
> again.
>
>
> Flatfish
> Why do they call it a flatfish?
> Remove the ++++ to reply.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: KDE Hell
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 02:15:31 -0000
On Sat, 03 Feb 2001 02:05:55 GMT, T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Said Jim Richardson in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sun, 28 Jan 2001
>> T. Max Devlin, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [...]
>>>>Reno (via the various fed three letter agencies at the time) fired incendiary
>>>>rounds into a wooden structure, used CS gas with a flammable propellant,
>>>>refused to allow fireengines access to the church, and in general, lied and
>>>>missrepresented the situation from day one.
>>>
>>>Yea, right.
>>
>>Truth is truth, whether it makes you uncomfortable or not is irrelevent. The
>>feds lied about a drug lab (they later admitted it was a lie) about child abuse
>>(which is not even in the federal jurisdiction in the first place.) and about
>>the actions they took. There wasn't a single day of the siege that went by,
>>without the feds lieing about something.
>
>I get real skeptical when I hear stuff like that.
>
>There wasn't a single day of the siege that went by that the Branch
>Davidians shouldn't have turned themselves in and had their day in
>court. Instead, they committed suicide. And that makes the government
>the bad guy?
Yup.
IT'S THEIR JOB TO BE IN CONTROL.
They let things get out of control, therefore they failed.
The cops that beat up King are guilty of the same sort of
professional malpractice. Innocents DIED because of their
machismo and incompetence.
They blundered strategically and tactically. This should
be apparent even if you view Koresh as the anti-christ.
The "untouchables" raided what was essentially a monastery
and most Americans didn't even blink.
--
Section 8. The Congress shall have power...
To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for
limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their
respective writings and discoveries;
|||
/ | \
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 21:18:02 -0500
Johan Kullstam wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Nick Condon wrote:
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aaron R. Kulkis) wrote in
> > >
> > > >However, this has NOTHING to do with Microsoft. They have NEVER been
> > > >*granted* a government-sanctioned monopoly.
> > >
> > > All copyrights and patents are government granted monopolies. Microsoft
> > > holds many.
> >
> > And how many of them read "THE desktop operating system for office and
> > home users"?
>
> well, for one, the US DoD requires all documentation in "ms-word 6.0
> for windows" format.
Strange...I'm in the Army, and I've never heard of it.
And that's STILL not a monopoly...that's a contract provision.
>
> --
> J o h a n K u l l s t a m
> [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> sysengr
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Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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