Linux-Advocacy Digest #953, Volume #31            Sun, 4 Feb 01 03:13:02 EST

Contents:
  Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Linux is a fad? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: More Mandrake Fun :( ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Tread carefully when advocating Linux & OpenS ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Whistler predictions... ("Tom Wilson")
  Re: I edited my inetd.conf with Word. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: My open-source quote (J Sloan)
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: NTFS Limitations ("Aaron R. Kulkis")

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?)
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 02:35:41 -0500

David Brown wrote:
> 
> Ayende Rahien wrote in message <95e6f8$j6n$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >>
> >> You forgot disk defragmentation APIs - MS has managed to ship a
> >defragmenter
> >> with their DOS+Win line for years, and they have done all the hard work
> in
> >> the defragmentation API, yet they still failed to produce a defragmenter
> >for
> >> NT 4.  Even for w2k, they had to buy in a third-party defragmenter.
> >
> >Well, the defragmentation APIs for win9x are likely to be totally useless
> >for NT. Totally different file systems, but for the FAT partitions, yes,
> >they should've probably taken the APIs, but then, it's a 9x code, I *don't*
> >want it in NT.
> >For a start, NT4 didn't ship with a degragmantor(sp?) because it was
> >believed that NTFS doesn't fragement (it does, but it handle the situation
> >nicely).
> >As for 2K, you've to consider several things:
> ><A> How much it would cost them to develop their own defragmentor.
> ><B> How efficent it would be?
> ><C> Can they buy or license already working product that would be as
> >efficent (or reasonably efficent, at least) at a lower price?
> >
> >If <C>, then there is no need to spend more money than you've to.
> >
> >
> 
> NTFS is terrible for fragmentation.  It may be better than FAT, but it is
> still terrible.
> 
> In Win9x, the defrag program needs to do all the work itself - it needs an
> understanding of exactly how data is stored on the drive, and uses direct
> disk access to move it around.  Under NT, there is an API allowing a defrag
> program to get a disk map, and allowing it to move file sections to
> different physical locations.  This means that a user program can do the
> defragmenting without any direct disk access - it is perfectly safe
> (assuming, of course, that NT and NTFS are perfectly safe), even while other
> programs are accessing the same files.
> 
> A defrag program consists of three parts - a pretty GUI, an algorithm for
> deciding which files should go where, and a low-level access part to do the
> actual file manipulation in a safe way.  The first two parts should be
> roughly the same for a Win9x and an NT defrag program, regardless of the
> file system used (although that may cause some small changes to the
> algorithm).  The low-level part is completly different for Win9x and NT, but
> in NT's case it is already built-in to the OS.  So if the Win9x defrag
> program is reasonably modular, a couple of microserfs should be able to put
> together an NT defrag program in a few weeks.

Of course, the alternative is to do what the Unix community does....
namely, correct fragmentation on the spot if possible...or when
available other-wise-idle-time if not.



-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is a fad?
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 02:38:00 -0500

Jim Richardson wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 03 Feb 2001 04:15:05 GMT,
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED], in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  brought forth the following words...:
> 
> >On 3 Feb 2001 04:04:11 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David
> >Steinberg) wrote:
> >
> >
> >>
> >>Your definition of "standard" is "whatever Microsoft is doing this
> >>week."  Real standards, including USB, are supported by Linux.
> >
> >
> >No.
> >
> >I can take my USB scanner, printer and camera and move them from my
> >Windows PC right over to my iMac and they work fine.
> >
> >They don't, however work under Linux.
> 
> what models?
> 
> >
> >>: >Ahem, what? Have you know idea what .dll hell is in Windows?
> >>: Yep.
> >>: Something that was a nightmare under Win95a.
> >>
> >>There is no difference between how Win95a, Win98, Win ME and Win NT handle
> >>DLL's.  They all allow, no, EXPECT applications to randomly replace system
> >>DLL's with other versions, breaking already installed programs.  Allegedly,
> >>Windows 2000 has an ugly work-around for this problem that involves the OS
> >>somehow intercepting these installations and juggling around the libraries
> >>in the background in the hopes that the applications see the library
> >>version that they're expecting.
> >
> >It works in Win98SE and Win2k, it di NOT work in Win95a.
> >So where was Linsux when Win95a was released?
> 
> no, Win98 only works with applications that are written to work with the
> "DLL protection" if the app doesn't play nice, you are hosed.
> Oh, in 1995 (late '95, very late 95) linux was comming along nicely. A bit of a
> pain to install is true, but far more reliable and useful than W95 was.
> (I am trying to recall if 2.0 was released by then.)
> 
> >
> >
> >>Not to be confused with the simple, elegant, effective Linux solution: put
> >>the version number of the library in its filename!
> >
> >Yea right and spend 2 days looking for dependencies that are not
> >satisfied because you have a LATER version of some arcane library.
> >Linux doesn't even call the damm things by the same name. RPM will say
> >you are missng "clusterfuckxyz" which really means you are missing
> >LibC. Silly me for not knowing the difference.
> >
> 
> You could try to use packages released by the distro you picked.
>  or you could use debian which I am told handles things rather nicely.
> Compared to windows installers, RPM is a dream... Windows is a nightmare.
> 
> >
> >
> >
> >>Which has nothing to do with the assertion that Linux no distribution
> >>released in the last few years requires a patch for ppp.
> >
> >Try installing Mandrake 7.2 and tell it you don't wish to set up you
> >internet connection now, which implies you would like to set it up
> >later, and see what happens.
> >
> >Oh where oh where did my ppp go?
> >Have you seen it?
> >I don't know where it could be?
> >Do you?
> 
> dunno, don't use Mandrake, try SuSE, I have been quite happy with SuSE myself.
> 
> >
> >>: Smart people stick with standards, like four wheels on a car.
> >>
> >>By that definition, Microsoft has to be the dumbest company in the history
> >>of computing.
> >
> >At least hardware works on their platform as well as Mac.
> 
> sure, hardware works so well that it continues to discover new hardware for
> months, without any need to actually buy any...
> 

What a deal.  Yeah...if I actually had as many Epson 900 printers as
Lose98SE
has "detected" I'd be in retirement.


> --
> Jim Richardson
>         Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
> WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
>         Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: More Mandrake Fun :(
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 02:39:15 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 03 Feb 2001 23:41:06 GMT, "Martigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> >   I must say Mr. flatfish++++, that you are a piece of work!
> Actually it is Miss :)
> 
> >  All you have
> >to do is post one article and you get the whole NG ripping with energy!
> 
> The Lord has given me a gift :)
> 
> >    BUT I do think it is quit interesting that an individual such as your
> >self, a anti-Linux crusader, that you are the only poor victim in this world
> >that is having soooo many problems with Linux!  I mean by reading you posts
> >you think of your self as a fairly intelligent person.  And any intelligent
> >person would read up on all the issues before installing a new OS.  Or do
> >you approach something new like taking a DMM to a motherboard and trying to
> >get the capacitance of the CPU!
> 
> That sounds more like a Linvocate to me.
> The Linvocate will know every single detail about the
> DIMM/CPU/Motherboard, buy his DIMM, read the spec sheet, install it
> and then find out his motherboard doesn't work well with Linsux.
> 
> The Windows user will walk into the shop and say "I want one of
> these", overpay for it, go home and plug it in and it will work.
> 
> >    You do put an awful amount of energy on your "Linsux" campaign.  Why
> >bother hanging around here if you are so fed up with the OS and think it's
> >worthless?
> 
> It's an advocacy group.
> I don't think Linux is worthless. It has it's uses, but as a desktop
> consumer OS it is an awful step backwards.


Translation:  "I, flatfish+++ am a retarded asshole"
> 
> Flatfish
> Why do they call it a flatfish?
> Remove the ++++ to reply.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Tread carefully when advocating Linux & OpenS
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 02:41:52 -0500

Steve Mading wrote:
> 
> Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : Steve Mading wrote:
> :>
> :> This is why there is hostility toward GUIs - in the past ignoramuses
> :> have thought that GUIs made an effective *replacement* for the CLI
> :> interfaces, when in fact BOTH are equally important.
> 
> : true.
> 
> : GUI for morons
> : CLI for power users
> 
> Depends on the task.  GUI sucks for programming work, but I
> would much rather use a GUI than a CLI if I was making a
> slideshow presentation or playing a game.  I am fully in favor
> of GUIs *in addition to* CLIs, I just fear that the ignorant
> masses will turn things into GUIs *instead of* CLI's, like
> they've done on other platforms.

Don't worry.  Without hackers, Linux would die instantly.

Hackers live and die by the CLI.  You think they'd really shoot
themselves in the foot and remove their favorite tool?

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Whistler predictions...
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 07:44:07 GMT


"Curtis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Peter Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>
>      «--snip--»
> >> Mandrake's hardware detector is stunning in its efficiency. It
> >> works the way Microsoft's so-called plug & play systen *should*
> >> have worked, but doesn't.
>
> I'm sure you're speaking about a recent version of Mandrake. Try Win2k
> and you'll be equally stunned.

I run Win2K Professional and there's no comparison....
Mandrake wins, hands down, for hardware detection.





------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I edited my inetd.conf with Word.
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 02:50:33 -0500

The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
> 
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  wrote
> on 2 Feb 2001 00:20:24 GMT
> <95cug8$ech$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >#echo   stream  tcp     nowait  root    internal^M
> >#echo   dgram   udp     wait    root    internal^M
> >#discard        stream  tcp     nowait  root    internal^M
> >#discard        dgram   udp     wait    root    internal^M
> 
> [rest snipped]
> 
> One of the few things Microsoft actually did right -- yes, I know,
> everyone else uses "newline" versus "carriage return linefeed".
> Of course, maybe Microsoft should get on the bandwagon now.... :-)
> 
> One of the more annoying aspects of code management on a mixed
> system is that lines added in VC++ have the ^M added on,
> readily visible in Unix (or Linux) when vi or emacs is fired up
> thereon.  Visual SourceSafe also has some peculiar notions
> at times as to what to do with these ^M's; I'm still not
> sure what it's doing, but it leads to problems with scripts
> (*never* edit a shell or Perl script with Word unless you know
> exactly what you're doing;
> 
> #!/bin/sh^M
> 
> will lead to "file not found" errors, which probably confuses almost
> everyone unless they think to look at the first line and
> see that hidden carriage return.  It's happened to me a few times.)
> 
> Note also that VC++ and Wordpad handle newline more or less OK
> (Notepad is extremely stupid about it; a newline displays as a little
> black rectangle); apparently Word does, too, but likes to put the
> carriage returns in.  I forget what Wordpad does.
> 

use the "cleanscript" command.

http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/ECN/FAQ/internet/dialup/How_do_I_get_rid_of_the_Ms_in_a_file

It's a shell script


> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
> EAC code #191       1d:00h:01m actually running Linux.
>                     Are you still here?


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: My open-source quote
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 07:51:12 GMT

Dan Hinojosa wrote:

> Oh, you must be a ladies man, you don't have many family and friend
> pictures on your desk do you?  I'll stop here because you are not one to
> carry a semi-intellectual conversation without you resorting to
> stupidity. Actually, it is my fault for starting a conversation with you
> with out checking the lack of responses you get with previous posts,
> seems like people avoid you like the village idiot.

Aaron is no dummy, but he does run short of patience at times.

jsj


------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 02:53:57 -0500

John Hasler wrote:
> 
> Walt writes:
> > The dictionary definition of "atheist" is, "one who denies the existence
> > of God."
> 
> Make that "_a_ dictionary definition": at best an approximation.  I (an
> atheist) prefer this definition: "one who denies the existence of your
> imaginary friend while not claiming to have one of his own".
> 
> > That is definitely an active belief.
> 
> "Does not believe" is not "believes not".


Geeze, you're as dogmatic as the people you deride.


> --
> John Hasler
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
> Dancing Horse Hill
> Elmwood, WI


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?)
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 02:55:40 -0500

The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
> 
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Aaron R. Kulkis
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  wrote
> on Thu, 01 Feb 2001 21:44:43 -0500
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >Champ Clark III wrote:
> >>
> >> In article <95bh0f$t75$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ayende Rahien wrote:
> >> >
> >> >"J Sloan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> >> Ayende Rahien wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > "J Sloan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > Is it true that windows 2000 finally got filesystem quotas
> >> >> > > somewhat similar to what Linux has had for years?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Yes.
> >> >> > Is it true that Linux finally got the SMP support that NT
> >> >> > had for years?
> >> >>
> >> >> Linux has had smp support since version 1.1.31.
> >> >
> >> >And it was *bad*.
> >> >
> >> >> That was ~1995.
> >> >
> >> >NT had it since 3.1 (from the start, that is).
> >>
> >>         You still dodged something here.  That was quota's that
> >> got this little thing going.  I'll bet that quota'ing is in more
> >> use then say,  hrmm..  Mulit-CPU's?  Hell,  Novell has quota's!
> >> VMS has had quotas for years! I can't even think of a *nix that
> >> doesn't have a quota'ing system for it......  What took so long?
> >
> >Microsoft--relearning mid-20th centuryt technology...in  the 21st.
> 
> Not only that, but making it "usable" for the masses by slapping
> on silly icons, pulldown menus that slowly vanish beautifully
> and/or animate from the pointer as the user selects a scascade item,
> windows with scrollbars, gadgets, rollover labels that change
> color as the mouse rolls over them (wow, psycho, man), and built-in
> richly-formatted help text files that tell one the bit that he
> knew already ("yes, I KNOW that's a toggle button with a label,
> you moronic program!").
> 
> Except that the RTF files are not standard HTML, TeX, or PDF,
> the vanishing pulldown menus and rollovers are useless gewgawery
> (although a well-designed pulldown can help in documenting),
> and the silly icons are just silly -- what *does* that floppy
> mean in Word, for example?  How does one deduce that it means
> "save to disk"?  How stupid is that??
> 

Apparently, Microsoft believes that the typical Word user is too
illiterate to read English.


> I'm still holding out for soft links.  Has Microsoft scheduled them yet?
> 
> [.signsip]
> 
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random stupidity here
> EAC code #191       1d:11h:34m actually running Linux.
>                     Microsoft.  When it absolutely, positively has to act weird.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: NTFS Limitations
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 02:57:11 -0500

Chad Myers wrote:
> 
> "J Sloan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Chad Myers wrote:
> >
> > > "J Sloan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > > This is of course not true, the "my cat fluffy" nonsense seems
> > > > to be Chad's standard response to the facts of web server
> > > > market share.
> > >
> > > Well, we know for a fact that they're not major business sites,
> > > so we can assume that if their not major business sites, or don't
> > > have large amounts of traffic, they're probably not major sites.
> >
> > We know no such thing, it's purely a groundless allegation
> > on your part.
> 
> Not really. Looking at the facts, that is a logical conclusion.
> MS holds a majority share in the Fortune 500 and Global 2000 space,
> also, according to Netcraft's SSL survey, MS holds a strong majority
> there as well.
> 
> The only place where MS doesn't have a majority of web share is in
> Netcraft's web server survey which is:
> a.) not fully accurate due to many inconsistencies
> b.) not taken scientifically
> c.) not fully accurate because it counts virtual hosts
>     as servers, thus artifically inflating the Apache numbers
> 
> So basically, in every scientific and meaningful survey (i.e. business
> web sites), MS holds a strong majority.

...of break-ins, hacks, defacements, outages, crashes, and other
unscheduled disruptions of service.


> 
> What say you to that?
> 
> -Chad


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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