Linux-Advocacy Digest #977, Volume #31 Mon, 5 Feb 01 03:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: The 130MByte text file ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: linux is dieing (J Sloan)
Re: Bill Gates and Michael Dell (G3)
Re: Storm Linux & Applixware ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux is a fad? (Marada C. Shradrakaii)
Re: UltraEdit in Linux? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Bill Gates and Michael Dell (G3)
Re: "It's the desktop, stupid" ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Bill Gates and Michael Dell ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The 130MByte text file
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 02:51:36 -0500
Pete Goodwin wrote:
>
> Mig wrote:
>
> > > Ah yes, but of course! That's it! That's why a 130MByte text file loads
> > > on Windows and hangs on Linux. Yes! That's it!
> >
> > Now youre lying... it did hang on Windows with wordpad... you wrote that!
>
> Nope, I said WordPad crashed. Word thrashed away merely, but at no time did
> it hang the system.
>
> > If your intention was to say that Linux did hang then youre either stupid
> > or dont understand the issues.. You also wrote that you had a ping reply
> > from the Mandrake box. How could it reply when it was virtually dead?
>
> How come FTP didn't respond?
>
Because, as usual, you deliberately sabotaged your system...dishonest sack of
shit.
> --
> Pete, running KDE2 on Linux Mandrake 7.2
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux is dieing
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 07:53:21 GMT
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> Mike Martinet wrote:
> >
> > Hey!
> >
> > That brings up a question I've never faced before. How do you go about
> > backing up a working Linux implementation? If you (or anyone) wouldn't
>
> use the /sbin/dump command (and it's mate, /sbin/recover)
You meant "restore", I know you did...
jjs
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Subject: Re: Bill Gates and Michael Dell
From: G3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,rec.games.frp.dnd
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 07:54:44 GMT
in article [EMAIL PROTECTED], J Sloan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on
2/5/01 2:51 AM:
>> On the other hand trying to install red hat I had to restore drive
>> partitions like 5 times. Red hat is great on a 486 with no other OS's
>> anywhere near it.
>
> Red Hat is also great on a 16 CPU Itanium - just like it's
> great on my wife's Celeron 600, dual booting with win 2k.
>
>> I can't wait for OS X to show everyone what UNIX SHOULD be by now.
>
> I admit it looks like a nice GUI - but I'll need to see some
> performance and reliability data before I beleive that it's
> "what unix should be by now".
>
> jjs
LOL you do realize Avie Tevanian, the guy who wrote Mach (as in the
microkernal) is the head of the OS division yes?
-g3.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Storm Linux & Applixware
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 03:01:14 -0500
Tom Wilson wrote:
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On Sun, 04 Feb 2001 10:55:29 GMT, "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> I owned a Caddy, not the Chevette.
> > >
> > >That's the car to which he referred.
> > >
> > >Caddies from the 80's were absolute garbage...Especially that Cimmeron
> > >thing.
> >
> > Cimmeron was a pile of garbage. It was a padded Chevy Citation which
> > was Chevy's first attempt at a front wheel drive car. The squared off
> > Caddy's (shorter ones) were garbage as was the front wheel drive
> > Seville.
> > Mine was the standard rear wheel drive Coup De-Ville that they had
> > been making since the 1970's. Ran for 298,000 miles before it was rear
> > ended by some 90 year old man in a Ford Wagon.
>
> That 4-6-8 engine was amusing too...
We had one of those. Spent all of it's time on 4 or 8 cylinders...VERY
rarely on 6.
What's strange is that Cadillac planned to only offer it for only
one year...years before it ever got into production. I can't figure
out why they would go to all of the trouble of making a system to
"interrupt" the hydraulic pressure on the hydraulic lifters and then
PLAN on abandoning it long before recouping their development costs.
In any event, it turned out to be a not-so-good idea. Shifting from
4-cylinders to 8-cylinders was hard on the crankshafts. Apparently,
there were problems with cracks (and worse).
I wonder if the "Jake Brake" idea came from this?
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marada C. Shradrakaii)
Date: 05 Feb 2001 08:02:06 GMT
Subject: Re: Linux is a fad?
>Try to NOT buy a USB device and see what happens.
>For better or worse USB is the new standard.
>Of course like with most standards, Linux need not apply.
Odd. Last time I went to buy a keyboard, there were about 15 different
flavours of PS/2 or AT keyboards to play with (I didn't look at mice), costing
from 5-7 USD on up. And last time I bought a mainboard (1/01) it had PS/2 and
parallel ports. Only a very small subset of machines are USB-only.
--
Marada Coeurfuege Shra'drakaii
Colony name not needed in address.
This post is No. 54 056 in a limited edition of 700 000 000. Certificate of
Authenticity attached.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: UltraEdit in Linux?
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 03:02:53 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> hi all:
>
> i am a loyal user of UltraEdit for years under Windows. recently i am
> using more and more Linux for software development, but i haven't
> really found an editor that is quite as good and compact as UltraEdit.
> so far, i've just been using the regular/standard editors that come
> with Linux, such as vi, emacs, and pico.
>
> i would like to have something that would run under X and somewhat
> resembles UltraEdit (keyword high-lighting, space-tab option, auto
> format, and most importantly, the vertical selection!) anyone have any
> idea of such editor in Linux?
If I recall, there's something like that which a guy at GM Powertrain,
Warren Tech center uses.
I'll call around, and find out what it is. I know it's available on
HP-UX. We can see if there's a Linux port.
>
> thanks in advance.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
Subject: Re: Bill Gates and Michael Dell
From: G3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,rec.games.frp.dnd
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 07:59:53 GMT
in article [EMAIL PROTECTED], J Sloan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on
2/5/01 2:48 AM:
>> I wouldn't know. It takes so long to do something with linux shitty
>> interface I can't accurately compare their complexity in terms of upkeep.
>
> Sounds like you are completely unfamiliar with Linux.
> Those who have learned it find it much easier to keep
> up to date than other Unices, or even windows.
Up to date? I'm just talking about navigating something that default
installs with 3 separate interfaces! pick one dammit. And the other prob
is none of them are good at everything, they are all ok for one thing and
shitty for everything else. The thing makes as much sense as a goat with
duck feet. Maybe 10 year veterans find it easy to use but 60 year olds
using windows ain't gonna.
>> In my case I have yet to have a Linux system around as long as a Windows
>> install because its so hard to get it to DO anything and the interface is
>> such a piece of total smeg that I quickly realize I could do this in 3 steps
>> under Windows 3.11 and move from the linux machine to a PC or more often
>> than not a Mac.
>
> Sorry to hear of your woes, perhaps you were
> given some bad information.
Not really. I already have Photoshop, and Word, and Explorer (my key apps)
on both Mac OS and Windows. UNIX is a useless paperweight for me.
>
>> Linux is a nice free webserver that's about it.
>
> I admit it can be gotten for free, but that's not "it".
> it's also quite a fast, flexible and capable webserver.
>
> In addition, it makes a great mail, ftp, dns or big brother
> server - heck, it even makes a great samba server.
> Our company mail, dns & ftp servers were moved to Linux
> back in 1999, and it's the best move we ever made.
>
> For techies, Linux is a great workstation - I have to use
> a windows pc at work at times (i.e. when there's a word doc
> to be edited and passed on). I see windows nt and 2000 every
> day, and I have to tell you, I much prefer my Linux desktop,
> where I get 90+ percent of my work done.
>
> Then I come home to a Linux system, with OpenGL graphics,
> Quake 3 arena and Unreal Tournament ready to go -
I'll keep my mac and telnet to unix-based servers on an as needed basis
thanks.
Not only does it have better apps then either Linux or Winblows, Its at
least as Stable as NT, and I don't have to worry about going through arcane
text based config files if something goes wrong.
-G3
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "It's the desktop, stupid"
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 03:04:41 -0500
Bob Hauck wrote:
>
> On Sun, 04 Feb 2001 21:13:52 -0500, mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Pete Goodwin wrote:
> >>
> >> http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-2001-02/lw-02-penguin_1.html
> >>
> >> Fascinating!
>
> >Linux has a tremendous opportunity to develop a common desktop API, leaving
> >actual implementations irrelevant.
>
> I think that it is far more important that there are modern API's than
> that there is only one of them. This is important because it allows for
> the more rapid creation of end-user applications.
>
> If there is more than API, and it looks like that will be the situation
> for some time to come, then it is important to have interoperability at
> the level of drag-and-drop, the clipboard, and so forth, so as not to
> inconvenience the users. But I do not belive that it is very important
> that all applications present the same look and feel.
>
> As you said in your post, even in the world of Windows, vendors are
> ignoring CUA in favor of flashy interfaces that attract new customers.
> Users also have shown that they don't particularly value consistency by
> their installation and use of assorted "skinning" products.
>
> In short, I agree that the API's and the "under-the-hood" standards are
> far more important than the look and feel.
Translation: Butterscotch-dipped shit is still shit, and no amount
of dipping is gonna make it into chocolate.
>
> --
> -| Bob Hauck
> -| To Whom You Are Speaking
> -| http://www.haucks.org/
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?)
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 03:05:30 -0500
"." wrote:
>
> > > I hope it wont. I use Win98 at home because I like to play games.
> > > However, each successive release of Windows appears to be trying to take
> > > more and more control out of my hands, which I will not permit on my
> > > computer.
> >
> > You want to talk about 9x and control? LOL.
>
> Yep. I'm not talking about the control you need in a work environment,
> control over security - I knew MS was pretty short on that when I first
> installed Win98.
>
> I'm talking about freedom and control over my own personal machine. I
> can do almost anything I damn well please under 98, including useful
> tasks like creating a bootdisk (fuck you, WinME). Win98 almost never
> pops up and says "You cannot do this", and if it does, I can bloody well
> get to DOS and do it anyway.
Linux is FAR better in this respect.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,rec.games.frp.dnd
Subject: Re: Bill Gates and Michael Dell
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 03:07:36 -0500
G3 wrote:
>
> in article 3a7e399f$0$26810$[EMAIL PROTECTED], Peter Seebach at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 2/5/01 12:26 AM:
>
> >> I have *NEVER* had to re-install a Unix Operating System to solve a problem.
>
> Considering what it takes to get one running to begin with I can't think of
> anything important enough to bother. ;p
Installing HP-UX or Solaris is a breeze.
Spend 10 minutes setting time zone, IP address, partitions, etc.
Come back in 30 minutes, and you're done.
>
> >> I have *NEVER* heard of any other non-MS
> >"re-install" to solve *ANY* problem.
>
> Mac OS likes it occasionally but you really need to screw the pooch to
> require that.
>
> Bottom line though MS OS's work much like MS Apps, their pretty, they have a
> lot lot of features, most of the coolest features have bugs, and they take
> up far more resources than anything doing as little as they do should
> rightfully take up.
>
> Still their Mac products of late are pretty cool.
>
> -G3!
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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