Linux-Advocacy Digest #120, Volume #32 Sun, 11 Feb 01 14:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: Answer this if you can... (J Sloan)
How does this look? (Tim)
Re: Bill Gates and Michael Dell (J Sloan)
Re: Linux Distributions. (Ray Chason)
Re: MS executives at LinuxWorld Expo (J Sloan)
Re: Linux reference distro (J Sloan)
Re: Answer this if you can... (Charlie Ebert)
Re: linux is dieing (Mike Martinet)
Re: Bill Gates and Michael Dell (The Ghost In The Machine)
Laptop and linux. Which one??? (Gerardo)
Re: How does this look? ("TsTech")
Re: Is there a real purpose to this forum? (Charlie Ebert)
Re: Interesting article ("Chad Myers")
Re: Answer this if you can... (Ralph Miguel Hansen)
Re: Another Pete Goodwin "Oopsie"! (J Sloan)
Linux Threat: non-existant ("Jan Johanson")
Re: La-Z-Boy and the Decline of Western Civilisation (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: La-Z-Boy and the Decline of Western Civilisation (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: Is there a real purpose to this forum? (Mike Martinet)
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From: J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Answer this if you can...
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:58:01 GMT
John Muir wrote:
> <Examples>
>
> I install some RPM package or other and at the end of the
> install...NOTHING... where is the bloody thing? How do I start it?
I usually just type the name of the program.
If I install an rpm of mozilla 0.7,I can then type "mozilla".
If I install an rpm of quake 3, I then type "quake3"
If the name of the app is unclear for some reason,
the package manager will tell you everything you
ever wanted to know, and more, e.g. all the files
associated with the app - look for the ones in with
a "bin" in the path.
> Where is the new menu entry. Nuffin' doing kid.
Depends on the app - nothing forces you to install
only apps that conform nicely and add menu entries
to both kde and gnome. I notice that quake shows
up on my gnome menu automagically now.
> Now for some REAL fun
> 'find -i / -iname mozilla' ? and then work out if it's a binary or
> script. If it's a script then './blahblah' ? Yes, you arrogant
> bastard, I know Linux is so bloody clever that this will stop baddies
> usurping ? and so on. But it doesn't make anyone actually want to use
> Linux instead of Windows, does it?
I think this is just a matter of not being familiar with
Linux, it's a foreign environment to you, etc, etc.
> I want to copy a line of text from my xterm window (or browser window)
> to another app ... forget it! EVERY Windows app can cut & paste to
> another app, why not Linux? This is CRIMINAL!
I cut and past between xterms, netscape, word processors
all the time - the old one button copy, one button paste is
one of the things I like best about X!
What difficulties are you having?
> I can't get the delete key to delete the character to the RIGHT of the
> insertion cursor in X. (Please don't even try to tell me that
> 'historic' reasons related to teletypes and punched tape have any
> rele-vance to today). In spite of almost a whole day spent reading
> HOWTO's and searching Google et al, if I enter <ctrl>-v then the
> 'delete' key is STILL COMES BACK WITH '^?' INSTEAD OF '[[3~' although
> outside of X it works fine. That I should even have to know such
> arcane crap in 2001 is a total mystery to me.
Point taken.
> I now understand that there really is a good reason why Microsoft
> spends so much effort on usability labs and such. Why do I seem always
> to have to fight Linux. Why doesn't it even TRY to help me?
I'll bet you could get help, but people in this group have
been burned by the likes of Pete yanking their chains, so
that they are reluctant to do so anymore - but post in a
genuine Linux help foru, or better yet locate the nearest
Linux User Group, and I'd bet you'll find all kinds of help.
> The
> arrogant attitude of some Linux 'gurus' is really childish..."REAL
> programmers enjoy wasting whole days trying to get Delete and
> Backspace working in all apps."
There's all kinds of folks using and working on Linux -
some arrogant, some helpful, just like anywhere else.
Cheers,
jjs
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From: Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How does this look?
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:45:50 GMT
I am planning on building a Linux machine using the Redhat 7
distribution.
How does this hardware look? Do you think I will have any problems?
I.E. with installation or most importantly stability?
Redhat Linux 7.0
Abit VP6
2 x PIII 700E (I am not overclocking this, so would 700EBs be better?)
128MB PC133 RAM
IBM Deskstar 75GXP 30GB HD
ELSA GeForce II MX 32MB AGP
Soundblaster 128 PCI
Toshiba 48x IDE CDRom
Linksys NIC
Thanks,
Tim
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From: J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,rec.games.frp.dnd
Subject: Re: Bill Gates and Michael Dell
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:01:57 GMT
ZnU wrote:
> Mac OS X is based on Mach, which isn't really a 'Unix' kernel. I believe
> there's quite a bit of FreeBSD code sitting in kernel space (for
> performance reasons) next to Mach to deal with the things that Mach,
> being a microkernel, doesn't deal with.
But mach is merely the abstraction layer, what's on top
of mach is bsd Unix - but I'm interested to see what kind
of performance hit MacOS X takes from it.
jjs
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From: Ray Chason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Distributions.
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:02:04 -0000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bloody Viking) wrote:
>My exact LILO problem is why I always use Slackware instead of the otherwise
>much better distros. Slackware will be hard on home users as it does take some
>configuring after your install. But at this time, Slackware is my standard. I
>currently use an ancient version, Slackware 3.0 to be exact.
I've used LILO with Slackware 7. No problems whatsoever.
Probably the smallest usable distro is ZipSlack, which you can download
from slackware.com as a 34 MB ZIP file. Download on your DOS or Win9x
box, explode it in C:\ or whatever drive you want, edit LINUX.BAT, and
blammo -- you have a Linux box. No X, alas :-( but it works with the
X packages from the full Slackware distro.
--
--------------===============<[ Ray Chason ]>===============--------------
PGP public key at http://www.smart.net/~rchason/pubkey.asc
Delenda est Windoze
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From: J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS executives at LinuxWorld Expo
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:04:39 GMT
Roberto Alsina wrote:
> KDE was started in october 14 or 16, 1996. THIS is when I recall the
> linux community starting serious effort to take over the desktop, with
> Matthias Ettrich´s call to write a few little apps and a WM because
> fvwm+xv+xemacs was not nice enough for her girlfriend.
^^^^
I sure hope you meant "his girlfriend"
8-0
jjs
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From: J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux reference distro
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:12:14 GMT
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> "Mart van de Wege" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:3a868e12$0$20218@reader3...
> > I work in financials, and as a Linux user (and onetime RH6.2
> > user) I have been tracking RH on this very subject. For one,
> > they just posted earnings well above expectations, and they've
> > set their target for profitability as sometime this year (don't
> > have the exact date here, and I'm too lazy to look it up).
>
> Isn't it amazing that Red Hat's financials have suddenly picked up since
> they decided to start releasing broken versions of their OS (RH 7) that
> generate lots and lots of support incidents?
What support incidents?
I've been running 7.0 on several boxes and not a
hint of trouble in sight, but a number of labor reducing
enhancements.
jjs
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Answer this if you can...
Reply-To: Charlie Ebert:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:14:21 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Muir wrote:
><Tirade>
>
>Now please don't get me wrong, I WANT to like Linux, I want to tell
>everyone how good it is, that they are silly to stay with Windows,
>that Linux is faster and better, but...
>
>I have been using Linux off and on for about three years. Every now
>and again I get the urge to use it constantly and at first find it
>wonderful and open and fast and non-Windows, but then comes the
>STOPPER…
>
><Examples>
>
>I install some RPM package or other and at the end of the
>install...NOTHING... where is the bloody thing? How do I start it?
>Where is the new menu entry. Nuffin' doing kid. Now for some REAL fun
>'find -i / -iname mozilla' … and then work out if it's a binary or
>script. If it's a script then './blahblah' … Yes, you arrogant
>bastard, I know Linux is so bloody clever that this will stop baddies
>usurping … and so on. But it doesn't make anyone actually want to use
>Linux instead of Windows, does it?
>
RPM is not debian? Oh, you must not be running Debian!
Ah, that's the problem!
>I want to copy a line of text from my xterm window (or browser window)
>to another app ... forget it! EVERY Windows app can cut & paste to
>another app, why not Linux? This is CRIMINAL!
>
Debian 2.2 R2 in Gnome can cut and paste amongst anything!
>From a gui to a terminal, from terminal to gui, from gui
to gui. You have drag and drop.
>I can't get the delete key to delete the character to the RIGHT of the
>insertion cursor in X. (Please don't even try to tell me that
>'historic' reasons related to teletypes and punched tape have any
>rele-vance to today). In spite of almost a whole day spent reading
>HOWTO's and searching Google et al, if I enter <ctrl>-v then the
>'delete' key is STILL COMES BACK WITH '^?' INSTEAD OF '[[3~' although
>outside of X it works fine. That I should even have to know such
>arcane crap in 2001 is a total mystery to me.
>
Well, it's not that way for me but since your bound and determined
to go back to windows, just go back.
></Examples>
>
>I now understand that there really is a good reason why Microsoft
>spends so much effort on usability labs and such. Why do I seem always
>to have to fight Linux. Why doesn't it even TRY to help me? The
>arrogant attitude of some Linux 'gurus' is really childish..."REAL
>programmers enjoy wasting whole days trying to get Delete and
>Backspace working in all apps."
>
Ah, these work find on Debian for me?
>For all the 'holier than thou' attitude of so many Linux advocates,
>Linux is simply 'spaghetti code' gone wild. Has no one in the Linux
>community read Parnas (1972) "On the Criteria to be used Decom-posing
>Systems into Modules?" If so, then why are whole web sites devoted to
>trying to help poor idi-ots like myself get the bloody 'delete' key to
>delete the character to the right of the insertion cur-sor? Have you
>lot never heard of encapsulation?
>
Yes, well.
>If Linux was a half-decent system there would only be ONE place to set
>key mappings, but oh no 'its sooo flexible, you can set the key
>mappings in round about 10 to 20 different places', wow! That's really
>cool!
>
In Gnome we call it the Gnome Control Center.
>If a programmer of mine put such a 'solution' to me I would think
>seriously of firing him/her.
></tirade>
>
>;-)
>
>John Muir
>
You mean you were so stupid you didn't know how to fire up Gnome Control
Center to change font's and keymappings?
It is a little green work box icon on your taskbar.
Does not being able to click on this icon and change what you wanted make you
a dumbass sir?
--
Charlie
**DEBIAN** **GNU**
/ / __ __ __ __ __ __ __
/ /__ / / / \/ / / /_/ / \ \/ /
/_____/ /_/ /_/\__/ /_____/ /_/\_\
http://www.debian.org
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From: Mike Martinet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux is dieing
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 11:21:09 -0700
Hey, thanks. I think I'll look at the size of the tarball and see if I
can't fit it onto a rewriteable CD. I'm not running all that much stuff
on Linux.
MjM
Bloody Viking wrote:
>
> Mike Martinet ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : Hey!
>
> : That brings up a question I've never faced before. How do you go about
> : backing up a working Linux implementation? If you (or anyone) wouldn't
>
> A quick n' dirty method is to install a slave drive, get a pair of install
> disks and use them to login. Mount the master drive on /mnt, make a second
> empty directory and after fdisking the slave, mount it on the second directory
> you made. Then, go to /mnt and tar -cvf depositing the giant tarball onto the
> slave drive. You'll tar EVERYTHING on the master drive. HINT: You can do the
> same backup trick with Windows with Slackware install disks.
>
> Modern big cheap hard drives make for some excellent backup devices but with
> the caveat that it can only be used with that computer thanks to BIOSes. If
> you want portability, get a Linux-compliant SCSI card and buy a SCSI hard
> drive to use as a backup drive. That way, any computer you put the SCSI card
> in can read your hard drive perfectly. SCSI drives are pricey though, and it's
> fun to rig SCSI and IDE drives in the same system.
>
> Another method of portability is to buy a Backpack CD drive. A little known
> fact is inside the gadget is an IDE fitting, in which case you remove the CD
> drive and slip in a big hard drive. Except for backup and restore, you leave
> the gadget shut off. Hard drives when not used can hold their data practically
> forever. That's becuse when in use they are designed to be in use for a long
> time, so when not used, they last for nearly geological time periods. I've
> personally fired up old hard drives just fine.
>
> The more conventional method is to buy an Iomega Ditto floppy tape deck. Pull
> out Slackware install disks which support the device and back up or
> restore.
>
> No matter the device you use, to back up, you tar the entire filesystem onto
> the device. When you want a restore, you untar it onto the fdisked and
> formatted new drive and it unfurls into place, leaving you right where you
> left off as of the last backup.
>
> --
> FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 100 calories are used up in the course of a mile run.
> The USDA guidelines for dietary fibre is equal to one ounce of sawdust.
> The liver makes the vast majority of the cholesterol in your bloodstream.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Subject: Re: Bill Gates and Michael Dell
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:19:35 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Paul 'Z' Ewande®
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Sun, 11 Feb 2001 03:44:10 -0800
<964t11$13r5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>"The Ghost In The Machine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
>message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
><SNIP> Some stuff </SNIP>
>
>> Nope...it's not. Although I don't do it that often. :-)
>> (A certain other operating system cures me of that, actually; CMD.EXE
>> doesn't have filename completion, period, and Cygwin on NT
>
>Incorrect. Tab Completion is enabled in NT/2K by setting a single registry
>value.
>
>Locate HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Command Processor key.
>There modify the DWORD value of CompletionChar to 9 [0 by default which is
>disabled]. Reboot. There you go.
>
>You are of course encouraged to back up your registry first. :)
Noted. I'll save this on the off chance that it might be useful. :-)
>
>> tends to do very stupid things -- probably because of performance
>> issues on disk I/O -- if I hit TAB at the '$' prompt, which on
>> a more sane environment beeps (double-TAB will print the commands
>> available), but on Cygwin, because of the relative, erm, speed
>> of the disk, NTFS, the OS, or whatever, seems to just sit there
>> and chugga-chugga. I don't think I can blame Cygwin on this, though.)
>--
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
>
>Paul 'Z' Ewande
>
>
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
EAC code #191 6d:18h:51m actually running Linux.
This space for rent.
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From: Gerardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Laptop and linux. Which one???
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:10:35 GMT
Hello,
I want to buy a laptop, and I want to have a dual boot system
(Nt/Linux). Many of the laptops are "windows designed".
Which brand/model would you suggest to have this running in a descent
way? I mean driver support for screen, CDROM/DVD, floppy, sound, etc.
Thank you,
Gerardo
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From: "TsTech" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How does this look?
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:20:26 GMT
as long as you're not using ATA100, you should be fine.
I wonder about your sound though...
"Tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:966j4d$9od$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am planning on building a Linux machine using the Redhat 7
> distribution.
> How does this hardware look? Do you think I will have any problems?
> I.E. with installation or most importantly stability?
>
> Redhat Linux 7.0
> Abit VP6
> 2 x PIII 700E (I am not overclocking this, so would 700EBs be better?)
> 128MB PC133 RAM
> IBM Deskstar 75GXP 30GB HD
> ELSA GeForce II MX 32MB AGP
> Soundblaster 128 PCI
> Toshiba 48x IDE CDRom
> Linksys NIC
>
> Thanks,
> Tim
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Subject: Re: Is there a real purpose to this forum?
Reply-To: Charlie Ebert:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:24:29 GMT
In article <iZsh6.339615$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, KLH wrote:
>Is there a real purpose to this forum?
>
What the Chad Myers and company Window farting forum?
>Either the discussion is about:
>
>A. Some bug in GNU/Linux or an Application that runs on GNU/Linux that
>should instead be mailed to the bug reporting mailing list or other more
>appropriate place.
Rarely
>
>B. Some general, broad-sweeping statements that you people not only try
>futiley to prove, but try so over and over again and wonder why you continue
>to fail. In otherwords, general arguments that keep getting rehashed in an
>infiite loop.
>
True. Windows users are not scientists.
They have no ability to come to a conclusion.
I have actually SEEN them piss away 3.5 million in VB code
and DESTORY 17 careers in the process.
They have no ability to reason. None what so ever.
The Wintroll is a sad race of trolls who know how to only waste
corporate assets and human lives.
The term building on past sucesses is meaningless to the Wintroll
as they dont know the taste of sucess, like you and I do.
They only know how to THROW money and destroy careers.
>C. Trolls and Zealots in every way to get the mindshare of those who think
>they are serious.
>
Some of the Trolls are actually managers within Corporations.
They are truely dangerous fucking people to the American economy.
>D. Point to some article on the web and say how it proves your point all
>along. Then the thread goes into B. above. Then eventually to C. above.
>
>E. Spam.
>
>
>Have I missed something? Does this forum actually have a useful or noble
>purpose to it? If so, I would love to hear about it!
>
>Best Regards,
>Kevin Holmes
>"extrasolar"
>
>
War actually does have a beneficial purpose to it.
The weak of mind are eliminated from society more quickly.
--
Charlie
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Interesting article
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:10:31 GMT
"Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:kmqh6.1193$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:wckh6.69710$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> <snip>
> >
> > Why don't they try to get the fundamental things right on 2000 before
> adding
> > more cruft that doesn't work right? I've just spent most of the
> afternoon
> > tryng
> > to keep at least one of a pair of win2k web servers running, but they
> keep
> > popping a modal dialog box (from a service???) about an inetinfo.exe
> > application
> > error: "The instruction at "0x65f2b3d" referenced memory at
> "0x0000006c".
> > The memory could not be "read". These are simple vbscript asp pages
> using
> > the built-in msxml object. The bug would be bad enough, but these are
> > remote
> > machines accessed through VNC and it screws up the network to the point
> > where
> > vnc disconnects immediately after authentication - so you can't even tell
> it
> > to
> > reboot. The 'iisrest /reboot' command from another server fails also.
> > After
> > the first attempt it just says a reboot is already in progress but it
> never
> > finishes.
> > How does anyone deal with this kind of trouble?
> >
> > By contrast, a busier Linux server running a mix of perl and java pages
> has
> > been
> > running well over a year without any trouble:
> >
> > $uptime
> > 5:31pm up 450 days, 22:56, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00
> >
>
> That some individuals around here have molded this MS monstrosity into
> their Golden Calf boggles the mind.
That's a Linux server with 1 user and an average load of 0% CPU utilization.
This is somehow "busier"? I could build a WinME box turn it on and never
touch it and get that good of uptime too, that proves nothing.
-Chad
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From: Ralph Miguel Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Answer this if you can...
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 19:30:59 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
John Muir wrote:
>
snip
>
> If a programmer of mine put such a 'solution' to me I would think
> seriously of firing him/her.
> </tirade>
>
> ;-)
>
> John Muir
>
There are programmers working for YOU which means you ought to have a
minimum of knowledge about computing ? And then you tell these ridicoulus
stories ? I never believe you are in computing business.
Cheers
Ralph Miguel Hansen
Using S.u.S.E. 5.3 and SuSE 7.0
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From: J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Another Pete Goodwin "Oopsie"!
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:26:34 GMT
Pete Goodwin wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I know about the Ford quote, the mystery is what the devil
> > this has to do with postcript printing, which as we know is
> > a multicolor phenomenon.
>
> It has nothing to do with colour postscript.
>
> It has to do with "You can have any printer you like, as long as its
> postscript". Does that make sense now?
Not really. Of all the printers I've used at home, none
have been PostScript, so I wouldn't have guessed
that as a possible interpretation.
> I'm surprised I had to explain
> this one.
Keep trying, Pete -
jjs
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From: "Jan Johanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Linux Threat: non-existant
Date: 11 Feb 2001 12:27:11 -0600
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2684374,00.html?chkpt=zdnn_rt_
latest
Look at the numbers they're talking about. TurboLinux is just SOARING with a
whooping 68% revenue growth (not profits, just revenue) which sounds
impressive until you realize that it's a jump from 1.8 million to 2.9
million. Give me a break, that's what two middle level managers at MS make.
Compaq spends that much every time it submits a webspec test. Dell spends
that much EVERY month on print ads in just two magazines. AND their
prediction for growth was LOWERED.
This is after SuSe fell through the floor and dumped it's employees - but,
I'm sure they'll all stay on for free cause we know linux is free and it's
support is free and it's volunteered powered right?
It's nice to see that technical staff is being dumped while the management
teams from BOTH companies are staying around collecting their paychecks and
stock options. Yea, you need all that management but who needs technical
support eh?
But, really - who cares, right? According to linux supporters linux has
newsgroups and websites filled with support by unpaid (unknown, uncertified,
even untrusted) volunteers who we know are just hanging around every minute
of the day waiting to solve YOUR companies problem on your timetable, I'm
sure. I mean, if you've got a problem with something, you can just pick up
the phone, er, write a newsgroup post and keep hitting refresh waiting for
that authoritive answer from sven svengalli recently paroled from warez land
to help you get that enterprise database running again. ALl his time running
mySQL for his warez file indexing system will certainly be of use to you. if
you're ultimately lucky, linus might insult you himself ...!
Anyone suggesting Linux is making inroads at the (successful) enterprise
level is just plain nutz...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Subject: Re: La-Z-Boy and the Decline of Western Civilisation
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:28:18 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Lloyd Llewellyn
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Sun, 11 Feb 2001 02:11:38 GMT
<uxmh6.778$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> You mean like Barney? :-)
>
> I love you
> You love me
> But none of us likes your Daddy
> Because he's a stinking Linux user...
Gosh, isn't that user-friendly? :-) Next thing you'll know
Barney will be singing the Windows 95 theme song:
"You make a grown man crrryyyyyy.....
you make a grown man crrryyyyyy...."
(admittedly, Microsoft initially snipped that part out. Wonder why? :-) )
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
EAC code #191 6d:18h:59m actually running Linux.
Are you still here?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: La-Z-Boy and the Decline of Western Civilisation
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:29:54 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Tom Wilson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Sun, 11 Feb 2001 08:26:12 GMT
<E0sh6.1205$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>"Adam Warner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Hi Tom,
>>
>> > > I'd hate to know what happens to the seat when it crashes
>> >
>> > General Butt Fault?
>>
>> LOL. A General Posterior Fault would be an even better description :-)
>>
>
>True, it fits the existing acronym. <g>
>
>Another thought.
>
>How would people who purchased blue chairs identify a crash?
The Blue Chair of Death?
This could give impressionsable users a complex! :-)
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From: Mike Martinet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there a real purpose to this forum?
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 11:33:45 -0700
Hey! Now we have a FAQ!
MjM
KLH wrote:
>
> Is there a real purpose to this forum?
>
> Either the discussion is about:
>
> A. Some bug in GNU/Linux or an Application that runs on GNU/Linux that
> should instead be mailed to the bug reporting mailing list or other more
> appropriate place.
>
> B. Some general, broad-sweeping statements that you people not only try
> futiley to prove, but try so over and over again and wonder why you continue
> to fail. In otherwords, general arguments that keep getting rehashed in an
> infiite loop.
>
> C. Trolls and Zealots in every way to get the mindshare of those who think
> they are serious.
>
> D. Point to some article on the web and say how it proves your point all
> along. Then the thread goes into B. above. Then eventually to C. above.
>
> E. Spam.
>
> Have I missed something? Does this forum actually have a useful or noble
> purpose to it? If so, I would love to hear about it!
>
> Best Regards,
> Kevin Holmes
> "extrasolar"
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