Linux-Advocacy Digest #397, Volume #32 Thu, 22 Feb 01 00:13:06 EST
Contents:
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Allchin backtracks, now likes open source (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Who is the most heavily killfiled person on cola? (Tim Hanson)
Re: Allchin backtracks, now likes open source (T. Max Devlin)
Re: VA Linux cuts 25 per cent of staff, sees 212% increase in revenue (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Allchin backtracks, now likes open source (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: How much does it take to make sound work in linux?? (Bloody Viking)
Re: Allchin backtracks, now likes open source (T. Max Devlin)
Re: What do I do with a Windows partition? (Bloody Viking)
Re: Net Chads (T. Max Devlin)
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:21:51 -0500
Sam Morris wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > The .sig does *NOT* antagonize them into flaming
> me.
> > > Quite
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > opposite...by documenting their behavior, it takes
> all
> > > the
> > > > > fun
> > > > > > > > away from them.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > All it does is cancel out the effect of the remaining
> 12
> > > > > people
> > > > > > > who sill only post links to newsgroups rather than
> > > attaching
> > > > > > > binaries.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > non-sequitor.
> > > > >
> > > > > These people save bandwidth. You waste it. Meanwhile, you
> > > still
> > > > > haven't justified the petty attacks.
> > > >
> > > > False premise.
> > > >
> > > > Describing the modious operendi of these habitual flamers
> > > > is *NOT* a petty attack.
> > >
> > > Illogical, given that these "habitual flamers" never actually
> > > seem to reply to you. I doubt it's because of your .sig's
> > > mystical powers of deterrance. Your .sig *IS* full of petty
> > > attacks, and you didn't reply to the fact that you waste
> > > bandwidth.
> >
> > Give it up, you're starting to sound like Tholen's siamese
> twin.
>
> Nice dodge.
No, no, that won't do.
You're supposed to argue that you don't even have a twin,
let alone one that was born in Siam...and that furthermore,
Siam no longer exists.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Sam
>
> "All your base are belong to us" - Cats
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:22:48 -0500
"J.B Moreno" wrote:
>
> Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Ignoring savage insults and accusations implies to the observer that
> > that insults and accusations are true.
>
> Except on usenet where it implies that you have a decent newsreader.
Only to those who are aware of what a decent newsreader is.
>
> --
> JBM
> "Moebius strippers only show you their back side." -- Unknown
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:26:37 -0500
John Rudd wrote:
>
> "J.B Moreno" wrote:
> >
> > Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Ignoring savage insults and accusations implies to the observer that
> > > that insults and accusations are true.
> >
> > Except on usenet where it implies that you have a decent newsreader.
> >
>
> Indeed. There was an interesting 'USENET the RPG' (I think it was Steffan
> O'Sullivan, or Carl Cravens) post made a long time ago, where it asserted
> that you can't really make someone else look like a fool on USENET, you can
> only make yourself look like a fool, or try to lure someone else into
> making themselves look like a fool. The latter can only happen if you're
> responding to their lure ... so if you killfile someone, they can't "harm"
> you.
>
Have you stopped raping your daughter?
> Kulkis is doing a great job of making himself look like a fool.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Allchin backtracks, now likes open source
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 04:28:36 GMT
Said Charlie Ebert in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed, 21 Feb 2001
[...]
>>> And this is the underlying motivation for Microsoft's continuing assault
>>> against open source software: Microsoft wants to poison any initiatives for
>>> government to spend money on open source software development.
>
>They may want to, but they can't.
>All those government organizations need to accomplish a task, and
>they chose Linux to do this with as it's easier to work with and
>easier to re-distribute. No license hassles.
>
>They will never choose closed source software for major projects.
>And Microsoft is right, Linux is like a gigantic mushroom dustcloud
>and Microsoft is inside the storm. Every direction they look, even
>UP is closed off for them now.
But that's not their aim, Charlie. The goal is to prevent what might be
considered the opposite, and might be considered by many to seem
reasonable, and is (or was) considered by some to be almost necessary,
required, and inevitable: an act of Congress making ALL software
developed with tax-payer money GPL.
>Linux has not taken over their market, it has fully encompassed
>Microsofts Market. And there's nothing they can do about it.
>
>If the Government *WERE TO PASS LEGISLATION* which banned government
>contributions of code to Linux, private vendors would be using Linux
>anyway.
Like I said; just the opposite. The question is: would the law be
grandfathered? That seems impossible and wrong, but so does Microsoft's
premise.
>There is nothing to stop those private vendors from using Linux.
>They are selling Linux to the Navy right now to replace Microsoft, Airforce
>too! There was an article about it in the Linux Journal this month.
To be frank, I think FreeBSD might be pretty common, too.
>Don't forget about embedded Linux chips taking on Cisco! Cisco is very
>worried about this as now they have over 100 competitors when before they
>had none.
Despite Cisco's fervent wishes, they have always had hundreds of
competitors.
>Even if the Government were stupid enought to ban contributions of code
>from NASA or the NSA or whoever, the vendors would just haul it in anyway.
>
>Microsoft has to face the facts that it has died.
>It just has to face those facts.
No, it doesn't. Or maybe it does.
A real person, we're told, goes through predictable phases when dealing
with difficult facts. IIRC, the first was denial, and the second is
anger.
I think we're entering the anger phase. Does anyone know what comes
next?
>And if your a manager who's proposed Microsoft for your business,
>I think you should retire. You've just become useless to our
>organization. Retire.
You underestimate the necessity of dealing with the reality of a
monopoly. Nevertheless, I think anybody involved in IT who is not
comfortable with Linux (which, happily, excludes anyone who's ever used
any Unix) had better start learning it, whether they like it or not.
>>> Also notice how we:
>>>
>>> (a) Now have "Microsoft representatives" instead of a real person being
>>> quoted making the comments.
>>>
>
>This just means their serious.
They're. Sorry.
[...]
>They will have zero chance of stopping "taxpayer-funded" software development.
Yes, but they have an excellent chance, I'm afraid, of stopping
taxpayer-funded development of GPL software. Which is wrong; all
tax-payer funded development of software should automatically be GPL.
>Just look at that line. "Microsoft uses the term "taxpayer-funded" software
>development, instead of government funded. Well, taxpayers pay taxes, and
>governments run from the money taxpayers pay, so what is the difference
>between government funded and taxpayer funded?
Have you been asleep for the past couple decades?
>Are they saying we can
>only be payed off with crisp new $20's from the mint? What are they saying
>here? From what I've seen of Microsoft infiltration of the Federal
>Government, State Government and Local Government, I believe they should
>be permanently banned from contracts. We should ban all proprietary software
>and pass an ammendment that only free/open source software can be used.
Face it, Charlie; you're a socialist. And I say that with the greatest
admiration. I wish I had the faith in human nature it takes to be a
socialist. Oddly enough, though, I _do not_ wish I had the faith in
human nature it takes to be a libertarian; anarchists don't make good
politicians.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
------------------------------
From: Tim Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Who is the most heavily killfiled person on cola?
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 04:29:03 GMT
"Rob S. Wolfram" wrote:
>
> Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [snipped 24 lines]
> >Even during a very heavy month, I can't imagine all the space of my
> >.sig amounting to even one moderate-sized jpeg.
>
> Let's do the math, shall we?
>
> On my local inn I expire COLA in 14 days, so we can do some checks on a
> 2-week COLA spool.
>
> I currently have 4468 jpegs on my system (including
> netscape cache) and the very biggest one of all amounts to 516484 bytes
> (1024x768 24bits-color picture).
>
> You made 557 of the 4714 posts in my spool, each containing a 1316 byte
> signature, which amounts to 733012 for two weeks time (excluding
> dash-dash-space).
>
> So only the sum of your signatures amounts to 4.7% of my total COLA
> newsspool of 15144kB (the latter being diskusage, not bytecount, so the
> real number is likely to be closer to 5.6% if we suppose an average of
> 0.5kB blockspace waisted per file).
Big ripping deal. This analysis must've taken you all afternoon.
> There are 40 posts where your signature has been quoted integrally, 10
> of which ar yours. Message-ID's:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> One particularly bad one was by Charlie Ebert (Message-ID
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ), but often Charlie makes a
> habit of snipping in the posts he's quoting.
>
> This brings us to your quoting behaviour. All 557 posts by you attribute
> to a total of 26036 lines of body text (i.e. excluding the headers and
> your signature). Of these lines, 19349 consisted of quoted text, so only
> 6687 lines (26%) consisted of your original text (that is *including*
> white space and *including* "<name of previous poster> wrote:").
>
> As for the reason of your obnoxious signature, I regard that as utter
> bull shit. You *do* seem to be molested personally, and I think "meow"'s
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is an example of that, (I
> wonder why I don't have the same problem... time for a mirror maybe?)
> but any selfrespecting Unix Systems Engineer should know that there are
> other and better ways to deal with that.
> Either way, a selfrespecting Unix Systems Engineer, especially one who
> was around in the early days should live and breath rfc 1855.
>
> For the record, you will be plonked. The only reason it hasn't happened
> yet it because I want to prevent `suck`ing messages with your behaviour,
> regardless of who posted it, but I didn't get around to doing it yet.
> I'm not planning to plonk you personally (i.e. in slrn), as I don't
> disagree with all you write. Just with your political views and your
> needlessly excessive use of strong language.
>
> I also would like to request everyone to *please* snip Aarons obnoxious
> signature when f'lupping, especially Charlie Ebert who attibuted to 15
> of the 40 posts with the sig quoted.
>
> HAND.
> Rob
> [snipped 20 more lines and 39 line .sig]
> --
> Rob S. Wolfram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> OpenPGP key 0xD61A655D
> Adult: A person who stopped growing at both ends and starts
> growing in the middle
> -- stolen on Usenet
--
Bagdikian's Observation:
Trying to be a first-rate reporter on the average American
newspaper is like trying to play Bach's "St. Matthew Passion" on a
ukelele.
------------------------------
From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Allchin backtracks, now likes open source
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 04:32:01 GMT
Said Chris Ahlstrom in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed, 21 Feb 2001
[...]
>I dunno, our Windows project is going to be DII-COE compliant.
>I hear rumors that the DII-COE geniuses want to phase out
>the support for UNIX. In other words, the military wants to
>become dependent on a single vendor for their operating
>system. Sounds very outrageous. If true, I'm dumbfounded,
>feckless, and fearful.
The power of a PC OS monopoly is positively mind-boggling. Be not
afraid, though; the combined on-slaught of Linux and anti-trust is
pretty intimidating in its own right.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: VA Linux cuts 25 per cent of staff, sees 212% increase in revenue
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:34:30 -0500
Chad Myers wrote:
>
> For those of you who may have been worried about
> Linux possibly "overtaking" Microsoft Windows in the
Why would any non-Microsoft employee be "worried" by Mafia$oft going
out of business....
Programmers will no longer have to shell out $5,000 every couple of years
to maintain certification.
MCSE's will not longer have to shell out $thousands every couple of years
to maintain certification.
Businessmen will no longer have to shell out $MILLIONS every couple of
years on pointless bloatware upgrades....followed by $MILLION hardware
upgrades, becuase the bloatware upgrade makes the 2-year old hardware
slow to a crawl.
Oh yeah...I forgot....idiots like you who present themselves as "administrators"
because they can point->drool->click when presented with microsoft blue...
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Allchin backtracks, now likes open source
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 04:36:10 GMT
Said Tim Hanson in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 20:04:38
>Charlie Ebert wrote:
[...]
>> Linux has not taken over their market, it has fully encompassed
>> Microsofts Market. And there's nothing they can do about it.
>
>Really, this episode reminds me of the contortions of SCO last year, but
>on a MUCH larger scale.
I missed the contortions. Please advise.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:37:15 -0500
Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>
> On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:47:06 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>
> >They are NOT petty attacks. They are documentation of methodologies
> >used in petty attacks against me.
>
> Oh you poor little thing.
>
> No one here gives a shit, Aaron. If you want a shoulder to cry on,
> try alt.whiners or something like that.
I'm not the one whining. It's the idiots who don't know how
to hit the "next article" key.
>
> If you want to whine, then at least refrain from attaching your whinig
> to every single post.
>
> --
> Donovan Rebbechi * http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/ *
> elflord at panix dot com
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bloody Viking)
Subject: Re: How much does it take to make sound work in linux??
Date: 22 Feb 2001 04:40:42 GMT
#KUNDAN KUMAR# ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I have become frustrated and you are my last hope.Even though i am a
: newbie, i managed to install debian and upgrade my kernel to 2.4.1. But
: after lots of tweaking, I am unable to get the sound working with good
: quality. I had LM 7.2 installed on my computer earlier and the card was
: working fine.
Can you cannibalise the kernel that worked with the card? If you upgraded
distros, chances are, you can recycle an old kernel that worked with all your
gear. This would be the easy way, at least if you backed up the modules
directories before the upgrade.
This is a problem with the thing with kernel modules necessitated with the
bigger kernels compatible with increasing amounts of hardware. (still waiting
for /dev/kitchen-sink though)
I've found that sometimes an old kernel worked fine but a newer doesn't with
obscure devices, at least not so easally. If you can, you could pull out your
old distro and get the kernel source and remake the old kernel if it's already
nuked from the upgrade.
To avoid a problem like this in the future, you could look around in the other
Linux newsgroups for what others use and with what kernels and hardware. If
you just bought a new computer and recycling parts, sometimes a gadget may
work with one motherboard but not another when using Linux.
Some ancient history here: A long time ago I had a Wearnes CD drive and a 486
with a VESA local bus type motherboard. I was never able to make it work...
until I bought a computer later with a PCI motherboard. Worked perfect with
the same distro, same kernel, same install process, etc. I was dumbfounded.
For best results with hardware, look for standardised stuff and when possible
try to avoid obscure hardware. Don't help you now with the sound card, but
could save grief later.
--
FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 100 calories are used up in the course of a mile run.
The USDA guidelines for dietary fibre is equal to one ounce of sawdust.
The liver makes the vast majority of the cholesterol in your bloodstream.
------------------------------
From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Allchin backtracks, now likes open source
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 04:41:00 GMT
Said Karel Jansens in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed, 21 Feb 2001
>In article <97121o$gej$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "dev null"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>> What happens if we apply their own criteria to Microsoft software?
>>> Taxpayers pay for it, but it gets "locked away" in Redmond instead of
>>> being available for general use. So, we don't have any access to the
>>> source at all *and* we aren't alowed to publish/review the contents
>>> therin.
>>
>> Just what I know *I* want. Cola regulars reviewing the source for
>> applications I depend on.
>>
>> Whew! Why don't I just type my thesis in vim with my eyes closed, and
>> then turn it in. End result would be the about the same.
>>
>>
>Given your proven writing "style" and the observed level of intelligence
>you display, it probably would.
*SNIFF* *SNIFF*
I smell a troll.
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T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bloody Viking)
Subject: Re: What do I do with a Windows partition?
Date: 22 Feb 2001 04:53:52 GMT
Edward Rosten ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Here's some choices:
: you could get aquainted with LVM and try to combine it with another drive
: use it to store ISOs before burning CDs
: write your own file system and test it there.
If you are using Loadlin, save that dir from that filesystem then partition a
10M partition as bootable DOS and replace the Loadlin upon using Win 98's DOS
to format it, then with the other partition, make it ext2.
To do this, have a Linux boot disk handy of course, but make a DOS boot disk
with format and its fdisk, and the Loadlin dir with Loadlin, the one-liner
script, and kernel file. (the Linux boot disk can be a hacked install disk
or a Loadlin boot disk) With the disks, reboot, do up the hard drive in
question with both fdisks, and format the DOS partition to set up Loadlin, and
set it back up, with the one-liner script as the autoexec script.
While in Linux, you can leave that little partition to port stuff if ever
needed.
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FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 100 calories are used up in the course of a mile run.
The USDA guidelines for dietary fibre is equal to one ounce of sawdust.
The liver makes the vast majority of the cholesterol in your bloodstream.
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Net Chads
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 04:55:37 GMT
Said Donn Miller in comp.os.linux.advocacy on 20 Feb 2001 23:11:34
>Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> http://www.physics.smu.edu/~web/student/chadmyers.htm
>
>> http://zapata.seas.smu.edu/~clmyers/
>
>Heh! Note how he's got these two zits, equally spaced on each side of his
>nose. Either that, or those are small round tatoos! Also, I have a strong
>suspicion that Chad sometimes posts in here as "Bracy" as a Linvocate. They
>both post from the same ISP, and use the same language in their personal
>attacks.
Can you get some pointers?
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T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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