Linux-Advocacy Digest #376, Volume #33            Thu, 5 Apr 01 03:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Microsoft should be feared and despised ("JS PL")
  Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software ("Les Mikesell")
  Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software ("Les Mikesell")
  Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (silverback)
  Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (silverback)
  Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (silverback)
  Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (silverback)

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From: "JS PL" <jspl@jsplom>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft should be feared and despised
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 02:15:50 -0400


"Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9agvdk$3go$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Mediaplayer is one example.  At the beginning it was a humble little
player,
> just played ya basic filetypes, and the streaming media was left to Real
> Media, heck, Microsoft even included the Real Media plugin with one of the
> versions of IE (I think it was IE 4).  Then Microsoft went, ooo, that
> technology is getting popular, maybe we should get in on the action.  Of
> course they couldn't use the Real Media Codec, so instead, the created
their
> own format and extended the mediaplayer. Since it was already included
with
> Windows, hey, most of the work was done.  Since they were in the position
of
> having a monopoly in the OS market, they could use the profits of
subsidise
> the cost of giving away the player and server for free.

I don't ever remember paying for Real Player. You mean MS introduced their
media player for the same price as Real Player? Say it aint so!! A software
company introduced a product and priced it competitively with the market
leader, MY GOD what gall they must have!!

Ever priced the Real Audio/Video encoder?
Here's what I just pulled off the real.com site:
"Streaming Media Starter Kit $2,999 30-day money-back guarantee"

Seems a little high! Looks like they could use some competition, in a
competitive marketplace! Thank you Microsoft, if it wasn't for you
developers would probably be paying  TEN GRAND for the Streaming Media
Starter Kit!!!




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From: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.int-property
Subject: Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 06:20:23 GMT


"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Said Donovan Rebbechi in comp.os.linux.advocacy on 4 Apr 2001 05:03:51
> >On Wed, 04 Apr 2001 04:13:35 GMT, Les Mikesell wrote:
> >>
> >>restriction claim.   More modern environments allow dynamic
> >>linking so in many cases there is in fact no copyrighted material
> >>distributed - and in some instances dynamic loading where the
> >>libraries are not even known prior to execution time.  How can
> >>you reconcile that with your statement that the code is or isn't
> >>derived when it is written?
> >
> >The dynamic loading one is a very interesting issue indeed, one I hadn't
> >considered. It would certainly appear not to be a "derived work" if the
> >library isn't required for execution (eg an image viewer that dlopen()s
> >various graphics libraries)
>
> Is the term "execution" here used in a way which is not entirely
> synonymous with "operation"?

> Any program that "uses" a library (regardless of the mechanism or
> semantics) but does not require that library in order to be "useful" in
> operation does not infringe, IMHO.

What part of copyright law says anything about being "useful"?  Or
that the covered program must work at all?

> The library has to be "part of the
> program" from the perspective of "use" of that program: operation.  By
> "part of the program", I don't mean as a metaphysical substance, (which
> means it doesn't matter what labels, relationships, or technical
> mechanisms are at work) but simply as a required component: something
> the operator must have for operation to continue.

Aside from this fantasy having nothing to do with the law, if the
operator must 'have' this component, then it becomes a use issue.
That is, you have a copy of the library under its own terms and
anything dynamically linking to it does not make a copy but uses
the existing copy which you have the right to use.  The code calling
it does not make or contain a copy of the library - it simply uses
the routines.

> If the new code and the library are combined during compiling, of
> course, then infringement occurs; I think you guys are OK with that,
> right?  The only tricky bit is the linking, where the library is in a
> separate file from the program.

Yes, if you statically link the library into a binary and distribute that,
you would be copying the covered work.   However, with dynamic
linking there is no such copy, and in the case where the end user
obtains his own copy of the library and makes the final link it is
a matter of use, not distribution.

> My point is that a program which *can* use a library, even if the only
> such library is GPL, but doesn't require the library to be operational,
> it doesn't seem to me that it could infringe on any copyright based on
> being derivative of the GPL library.  Unless it did, of course, actually
> have some of the code literally copied into the program.

The case the FSF claims does infringe is where there is no known
alternative to a GPL'd library and it is required for operation of
the program.  Aside from having no real basis for such a claim,
whether a program infringed or not could change after it was
written, or could be incorrectly decided based on not knowing
about the existence of an alternative library that might be used.

          Les Mikesell
              [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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From: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.int-property
Subject: Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 06:26:18 GMT


"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Les often gets hung up on the idea of software functionality and
> copyright.  He insists "functionality is not protected", as if that is
> all there is to it.

No, I have never said anything like that.  What I have said is that
each library may have its own terms to allow you to use it.  Having
met those terms, you may then use those libraries by running
code that calls their functions.   However, the owner of the library
may not claim to own or control the separate code that calls it.

> But functionality does not have to be *protected*
> in order for copyright to involve functionality when it comes to
> software.  If a piece of software is not functional, it might be
> considered code, but it can't be considered "a program", and only
> programs merit copyright protection.  A non-functional snippet can, of
> course, be copyrighted, but that is because its function would be to be
> a non-functional snippet; a piece of text, putatively assumed to be
> natural language.

The functionality is irrelevant as far as copyright protection goes. An
abstract work of art has the same level of protection as functional code.

> >In short, how do you decide which party can sue and which can't?
>
> I'm afraid that's a conundrum with any intellectual property.  All the
> more reason to support the GPL as the only method of *guaranteeing* that
> software will remain open source.

No, it just guarantees that a lot of useful things won't exist.

    Les Mikesell
         [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (silverback)
Crossposted-To: 
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 04:31:21 GMT

On Wed, 04 Apr 2001 14:31:28 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>silverback wrote:
>> 
>> On Tue, 03 Apr 2001 13:24:01 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> >silverback wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, 03 Apr 2001 06:04:38 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >silverback wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Mon, 2 Apr 2001 10:31:27 -0800, "Dana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >silverback <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> >> >> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >> >> >> On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 08:44:35 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>> >> >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >Scott Erb wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> I couldn't believe the sudden torrent of fascist like threats and
>> >> >> >> >                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Spot the character assassination.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >First of all, Fascism is a form of socialism.  By now, it should be
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> wrong clyde. Fascism is the polar opposite of socialism. Fascism has
>> >> >> >> always been a top down revolution to protect the interest of the rich
>> >> >> >> corporate owners. The fact that the fascist supporters are from the
>> >> >> >> top tier of society is enough to dispense with yer silly nonsense.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >They are just about one and the same. Socialism usually leads into fascism,
>> >> >> >look at Germany around 1930's to 1945.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> too bad moron.The Nazi were right wingers and advocated the same
>> >> >> fucking nonsense as what you do. Cut the taxes of the rich, privatize
>> >> >> large portions of government, outlaw unions, eliminate welfare and
>> >> >> unemployment.
>> >> >
>> >> >Hint: THOSE are not the attributes which made the Nazis bad.
>> >> >       Hope that helps, sliverdick.
>> >>
>> >> oh yes they were.
>> >>
>> >
>> >Do you think cartels are good or bad?
>> >
>> 
>> bad idiot.
>
>Then why do you support unions, which are nothing more than labor cartels.
>
no thats a big lie

>
>
>
>> And the Nazi economy was based on cartels. But then cartels
>
>Labor unions are nothing more than labor cartels.

wrong again fool

>
>> are a right wing approach to business. In America we were a little
>
>No...cartels are a SOCIALIST approach to business...as evidenced
>by the fact that leftists are very fond of labor cartels.

wrong again stupid

>
>> more honest about cartels we called the leaders of such robber barons.
>
>....and Union Thugs.

no yer an idiot.

>
>
>
>
>> 
>> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >Aaron R. Kulkis
>> >> >Unix Systems Engineer
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >Aaron R. Kulkis
>> >Unix Systems Engineer
>> >DNRC Minister of all I survey
>> >ICQ # 3056642
>> >
>> >K: Truth in advertising:
>> >       Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
>> >       Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
>> >       Special Interest Sierra Club,
>> >       Anarchist Members of the ACLU
>> >       Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
>> >       The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
>> >       Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>> >
>> >
>> >J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
>> >   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
>> >   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>> >
>> >I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
>> >   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
>> >   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
>> >   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>> >
>> >H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
>> >    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
>> >    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
>> >    you are lazy, stupid people"
>> >
>> >G:  Knackos...you're a retard.
>> >
>> >
>> >F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
>> >   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>> >
>> >E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
>> >   her behavior improves.
>> >
>> >D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
>> >   ...despite (C) above.
>> >
>> >C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>> >
>> >B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
>> >   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
>> >   direction that she doesn't like.
>> >
>> >A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.
>> 
>> ***********************************************
>> 
>> GDY Weasel
>> emailers remove the spam buster
>> 
>> For those seeking enlightenment visit the White Rose at
>> 
>> http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/whiterose.htm
>> 
>> *********************************************
>
>
>-- 
>Aaron R. Kulkis
>Unix Systems Engineer
>DNRC Minister of all I survey
>ICQ # 3056642
>
>K: Truth in advertising:
>       Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
>       Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
>       Special Interest Sierra Club,
>       Anarchist Members of the ACLU
>       Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
>       The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
>       Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>
>
>J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
>   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
>   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
>I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
>   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
>   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
>   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
>H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
>    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
>    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
>    you are lazy, stupid people"
>
>G:  Knackos...you're a retard.
>
>
>F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
>   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
>E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
>   her behavior improves.
>
>D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
>   ...despite (C) above.
> 
>C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
>B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
>   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
>   direction that she doesn't like.
>
>A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

***********************************************

GDY Weasel
emailers remove the spam buster

For those seeking enlightenment visit the White Rose at

http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/whiterose.htm

*********************************************

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (silverback)
Crossposted-To: 
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 04:32:27 GMT

On Wed, 04 Apr 2001 14:32:00 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>silverback wrote:
>> 
>> On Tue, 03 Apr 2001 13:25:42 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> >silverback wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 03 Apr 2001 10:42:15 GMT, "Alex Chaihorsky"
>> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> gee another fucking idiot. Guess who supported him finacically during
>> >> >> the 20s? It was the rich industralists. Hitler came to power by making
>> >> >> secret deals with them. How was it that Hitler was released from
>> >> >> prision after the failed Beer hall Putsch when others that had only
>> >> >> revealed to the press snipets of information that proved Germany was
>> >> >> rearming. They rotted in prision. And yes they were charged with
>> >> >> treason in the early 20s.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Face it boob the only way Hitler gained such a release was someone or
>> >> >> many someones pulled strings for him to get out. And that means only
>> >> >> one thing the German elite.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >Many a discussion here sooner or later come back to Nazi-Socialist question.
>> >> >To get to the bottom - question to everybody: HOW HITLER GOT TO BE
>> >> >CHANCELLOR?
>> >> >I start a new tread with that title. Please, give me your opinions. Here are
>> >> >the facts:
>> >> >
>> >> >Historic facts:
>> >> >
>> >> >During 1932 elections
>> >> >Hitler got                 11.8 million votes
>> >> >Social-Democrats     8.1
>> >> >Communists                5.8
>> >> >
>> >> >To be a Chancellor, Hitler had to have absolute majority. He never got it.
>> >> >If Communists would get into coalition with SD, Nazi would be outsiders.
>> >> >Nazi party was in deep financial troubles, Hitler thought of suicide.
>> >> >Communists declined the coalition and Hitler won.
>> >> >Why wouldn't Communists eliminate Hitler by supporting SocDems?
>> >>
>> >> fact Hitler was appointed chancelor after a backroom deal with the
>> >> leaders of big business. The communist and Nazis were rabidly opposed
>> >> to each other.
>> >
>> >And yet, Stalin told the Communists to vote for Hitler.
>> 
>> no
>
>And yet, it happened.

nope it never happened

>
>It's a matter of HISTORY.  Look it up, asshole.
>

yer trying to rewrite history and got caught lying. I know more about
the German elections than a little liar like you will ever know.

>
>> 
>> >
>> >Why is that?
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >Alex Chaihorsky
>> >> >Reno, NV
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> ***********************************************
>> >>
>> >> GDY Weasel
>> >> emailers remove the spam buster
>> >>
>> >> For those seeking enlightenment visit the White Rose at
>> >>
>> >> http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/whiterose.htm
>> >>
>> >> *********************************************
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >Aaron R. Kulkis
>> >Unix Systems Engineer
>> >DNRC Minister of all I survey
>> >ICQ # 3056642
>> >
>> >K: Truth in advertising:
>> >       Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
>> >       Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
>> >       Special Interest Sierra Club,
>> >       Anarchist Members of the ACLU
>> >       Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
>> >       The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
>> >       Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>> >
>> >
>> >J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
>> >   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
>> >   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>> >
>> >I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
>> >   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
>> >   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
>> >   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>> >
>> >H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
>> >    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
>> >    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
>> >    you are lazy, stupid people"
>> >
>> >G:  Knackos...you're a retard.
>> >
>> >
>> >F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
>> >   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>> >
>> >E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
>> >   her behavior improves.
>> >
>> >D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
>> >   ...despite (C) above.
>> >
>> >C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>> >
>> >B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
>> >   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
>> >   direction that she doesn't like.
>> >
>> >A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.
>> 
>> ***********************************************
>> 
>> GDY Weasel
>> emailers remove the spam buster
>> 
>> For those seeking enlightenment visit the White Rose at
>> 
>> http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/whiterose.htm
>> 
>> *********************************************
>
>
>-- 
>Aaron R. Kulkis
>Unix Systems Engineer
>DNRC Minister of all I survey
>ICQ # 3056642
>
>K: Truth in advertising:
>       Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
>       Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
>       Special Interest Sierra Club,
>       Anarchist Members of the ACLU
>       Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
>       The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
>       Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>
>
>J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
>   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
>   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
>I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
>   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
>   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
>   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
>H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
>    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
>    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
>    you are lazy, stupid people"
>
>G:  Knackos...you're a retard.
>
>
>F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
>   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
>E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
>   her behavior improves.
>
>D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
>   ...despite (C) above.
> 
>C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
>B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
>   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
>   direction that she doesn't like.
>
>A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

***********************************************

GDY Weasel
emailers remove the spam buster

For those seeking enlightenment visit the White Rose at

http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/whiterose.htm

*********************************************

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (silverback)
Crossposted-To: 
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 04:32:58 GMT

On Wed, 04 Apr 2001 14:33:04 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>silverback wrote:
>> 
>> On Tue, 03 Apr 2001 13:26:17 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> >silverback wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, 03 Apr 2001 06:00:40 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Michael Ejercito wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 14:00:00 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> >> (silverback) wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 08:44:35 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>> >> >> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>Scott Erb wrote:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> I couldn't believe the sudden torrent of fascist like threats and
>> >> >> >>                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Spot the character assassination.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>First of all, Fascism is a form of socialism.  By now, it should be
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >wrong clyde. Fascism is the polar opposite of socialism. Fascism has
>> >> >> >always been a top down revolution to protect the interest of the rich
>> >> >> >corporate owners. The fact that the fascist supporters are from the
>> >> >> >top tier of society is enough to dispense with yer silly nonsense.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>    Fascism has more to do with abolishment of individual rights.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >****ALLL**** forms of SOCIALism are about abolishing individual rights.
>> >>
>> >> sorry idiot fascism has always been a right wing ideology. Its what
>> >> you spew forth.
>> >
>> >yes...right wing SOCIALISM, sliverdick.
>> >
>> 
>> there is no such thing as right wing socialism
>
>What part of "National Socialist Workers Party" do you not understand?

poor damn fool still thinks East germany was a democracy too.

>                       ^^^^^^^^^
>
>
>
>> 
>> >
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >>  Michael
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >Aaron R. Kulkis
>> >> >Unix Systems Engineer
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >Aaron R. Kulkis
>> >Unix Systems Engineer
>
>-- 
>Aaron R. Kulkis
>Unix Systems Engineer
>DNRC Minister of all I survey
>ICQ # 3056642
>
>K: Truth in advertising:
>       Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
>       Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
>       Special Interest Sierra Club,
>       Anarchist Members of the ACLU
>       Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
>       The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
>       Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>
>
>J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
>   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
>   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
>I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
>   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
>   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
>   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
>H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
>    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
>    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
>    you are lazy, stupid people"
>
>G:  Knackos...you're a retard.
>
>
>F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
>   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
>E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
>   her behavior improves.
>
>D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
>   ...despite (C) above.
> 
>C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
>B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
>   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
>   direction that she doesn't like.
>
>A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (silverback)
Crossposted-To: 
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 04:33:36 GMT

On Wed, 04 Apr 2001 20:43:18 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Raoul Duke*** wrote:
>> 
>> On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 22:54:44 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> >"Gunner ©" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:01:02 -0800, "Dana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I wonder how Scott Erb would feel if he gets his wish of an all-powerful
>> >> >> government, and along the way, he gets carted off to some gulag....
>> >> >
>> >> >It would be poetic justice.
>> >> >It is not that Erb is ignorant, he is very dishonest. And to think he is
>> >> >teaching this to his students.
>> >>
>> >> HE"S a TEACHER?  Lord love a duck. No wonder the SAT scores are being
>> >> lowered. No wonder the educational system in this country is floundering
>> >> and turning out kids who cannot read, nor think, nor function.
>> >>
>> >> Scott would be a poster child for home schooling.
>> >>
>> >
>> >Home-school your kid...or else he might turn out to be like Scott Erb.
>> 
>> Home school your kid.  He will make a great shoe shine boy in a
>> Chinese suburb.
>
>Colleges across the nation are reporting that home-schooled kids
>tend to be MUCH better students than public-schooled kids.

bullshit

>
>Why is that?

because its another fucking right wing lie.

>
>
>> 
>> ************
>> 
>> Raoul Duke
>> 
>> "Will all who are sick and tired of that fist fucker Raoul Duke post a
>> resounding FUCK YOU RAOUL!! Then promptly put this
>> little prick in your kill file. Please.
>> Jack " -- alt.military.retired
>> >
>> >
>> >> Gunner
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> "Confronting Liberals with the facts of reality is very much akin to
>> >> clubbing baby seals. It gets boring after a while, but because Liberals are
>> >> so stupid it is easy work."  Steven M. Barry
>
>
>-- 
>Aaron R. Kulkis
>Unix Systems Engineer
>DNRC Minister of all I survey
>ICQ # 3056642
>
>K: Truth in advertising:
>       Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
>       Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
>       Special Interest Sierra Club,
>       Anarchist Members of the ACLU
>       Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
>       The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
>       Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>
>
>J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
>   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
>   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
>I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
>   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
>   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
>   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
>H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
>    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
>    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
>    you are lazy, stupid people"
>
>G:  Knackos...you're a retard.
>
>
>F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
>   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
>E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
>   her behavior improves.
>
>D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
>   ...despite (C) above.
> 
>C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
>B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
>   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
>   direction that she doesn't like.
>
>A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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