Linux-Advocacy Digest #644, Volume #33           Mon, 16 Apr 01 16:13:04 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. ("Aaron R. 
Kulkis")
  Re: Could Linux be used in this factory environment ? (Paul Repacholi)
  Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. ("Aaron R. 
Kulkis")
  Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. ("Aaron R. 
Kulkis")
  Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Why left-wing communist assholes hate Reagan.  (was Re: Communism,  ("Aaron R. 
Kulkis")

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:53:02 -0400

Charles Lyttle wrote:
> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > Charles Lyttle wrote:
> > >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Mathew wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, Jim Richardson wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 03:51:42 GMT,
> > > > > >  silverback, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > > > >  brought forth the following words...:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 01:24:34 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > > > > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>Goldhammer wrote:
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> On Mon, 09 Apr 2001 13:33:15 -0400,
> > > > > > >>> Rob Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> > Right. Fascism is characterized by the *state-directed* control of
> > > > > > >>> >the economy,
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Hmm. Sounds like communism.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Precisely.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Communism and Fascism are merely different sides of the same coin.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >bullshit you lying sack of shit. Fascism is the polar opposite of
> > > > > > >communism. They have nothing in common.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Fascicsm=control by a ruling oligarchy that murders it's population.
> > > > > > Communism=control by a ruling oligarchy that murders it's population.
> > > > >
> > > > >  What about Capitalist Fascist dictatorships like the
> > > > > Philippines,particulary under Marcos.
> > > >
> > > > Capitalism and Fascism are MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE TERMS, you goddmned fucking 
>moron.
> > > >
> > >
> > > BZZZZT. Wrong. Both the Italian and Spanish Fascist governments were
> > > very capitalistic. Capital is just one of the Bunds that make up a
> > > Fascist government. Labor, Church, Military are three others.
> >
> > Wrong.  Free Markets are fundamental to the definition of Capitalism.
> > Fascism's oppressive state involvement in the economy PREVENTS any
> > true Free Market...thus, Capitalism and Fascism are mutually exclusive.
> >
> BZZT. WRONG again. Capitalism has nothing to do with free markets. In
> fact, once the GOVERNMENT starts creating artifical persons in the form
> of corporations, free markets go out the window. No capitalist country
> has free markets. In Fascist countries, it often happens that Capital
> controls the government. The US and Japan are two of the most
> capitalistic countries around. Just try to take a boat load of
> California oranges to Japan and sell them. Or get a load of Japaneese
> eletronics/games/CDs and bring them here to sell. Both countries would
> be out to hang you for interfearing with the the local capitalist.
> 

Japan is fascist.

The US is a mixed economy with heavy doses of leftism. (We merely have
less leftism than the rest of the industrialized world).


In an ideal capitalist economy, there are NO import restrictions.

Hope that helps.



> > Hope that helps, uneducated fool.
> >
> > >
> > > Japan and several other Asian/Pacific countries also adopted variants of
> > > Fascism. In Japan the primary Bunds today are  Merchant, Farmer,
> > > Industry, the Military haveing fallen in disgrace after WWII.
> >
> > Scott Erb (Professional blackboard washer), are you listening????
> >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wow! no similarity there!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Jim Richardson
> > > > > >       Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
> > > > > > WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
> > > > > >       Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

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K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Could Linux be used in this factory environment ?
From: Paul Repacholi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 17 Apr 2001 01:57:16 +0800

"Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> "franek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...

> > I could never understand this enamoration with HTML-based
> > interfaces.  There's a good case for using HTML in a normal
> > web-based environment, but why the hell one would want to use this
> > crude and slow method in a standalone system is beyond me.

> Well, there are a lot of reasons why one might want to do this.

> 1) rollout of new versions is effortless.  Just install the new
> pages, scripts, etc.. and it just works the next time they load a
> page.  You can do this by centralizing the apps in a traditional
> environment as well, but then you have to get everyone to exit their
> processes and reload.  This isn't something you would want to do
> automatically because users might have a page up for a specific
> reason, and killing it on them could be disasterous.

> 2) You can use very low-end hardware for terminals (win 3.1 boxes
> even).

Great if you have no solvents, dust, high power machinery...

As I said, get factory experience and understand *the* factory.
Cutting $20 bucks won't go far when you are explaining the reasons for
destroying $100M of plant and killing 5 people.

Oh, and rolling out new versions is NEVER effortless. It can take 6
months or more of extensive testing before you 'roll out'. And if you
think that it becomes easier by adding a huge jump in complexity...

-- 
Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,
+61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda.
                                             West Australia 6076
Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:57:56 -0400

silverback wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 15 Apr 2001 14:00:58 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >Charles Lyttle wrote:
> >>
> >> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Mathew wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, Jim Richardson wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 03:51:42 GMT,
> >> > > >  silverback, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> > > >  brought forth the following words...:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > >On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 01:24:34 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> >> > > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >>Goldhammer wrote:
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>> On Mon, 09 Apr 2001 13:33:15 -0400,
> >> > > > >>> Rob Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>> > Right. Fascism is characterized by the *state-directed* control of
> >> > > > >>> >the economy,
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>> Hmm. Sounds like communism.
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >>Precisely.
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >>Communism and Fascism are merely different sides of the same coin.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >bullshit you lying sack of shit. Fascism is the polar opposite of
> >> > > > >communism. They have nothing in common.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Fascicsm=control by a ruling oligarchy that murders it's population.
> >> > > > Communism=control by a ruling oligarchy that murders it's population.
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > >  What about Capitalist Fascist dictatorships like the
> >> > > Philippines,particulary under Marcos.
> >> >
> >> > Capitalism and Fascism are MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE TERMS, you goddmned fucking moron.
> >> >
> >>
> >> BZZZZT. Wrong. Both the Italian and Spanish Fascist governments were
> >> very capitalistic. Capital is just one of the Bunds that make up a
> >> Fascist government. Labor, Church, Military are three others.
> >
> >Wrong.  Free Markets are fundamental to the definition of Capitalism.
> >Fascism's oppressive state involvement in the economy PREVENTS any
> 
> wrong fuckhead fascism is based on corporate rule. Fascism is a
> capitalistic society.

Corporate =/= capitalistic, moron.

There have been corporations all over Russia THROUGHOUT the overt
communist years  (and right through to the current "communism with
a happy-face mask").

Secondly...


Sliverdick, why do you prefer government bureacrate rule vs. corporate rule?

At least corporations have to PROVIDE SOMETHING WORTH HAVING to keep
their power.  Where as government bureacrats need to merely serve
the politicians, without doing a damn bit of good for you and me.

Hope that helps?

Thirdly: you STILL have not addressed the fact that:

Fascism   = control by a ruling oligarchy that murders it's population.
Communism = control by a ruling oligarchy that murders it's population.



> 
> >true Free Market...thus, Capitalism and Fascism are mutually exclusive.
> 
> nope they go hand in hand with each other liar.
> 
> >
> >Hope that helps, uneducated fool.
> >
> >>
> >> Japan and several other Asian/Pacific countries also adopted variants of
> >> Fascism. In Japan the primary Bunds today are  Merchant, Farmer,
> >> Industry, the Military haveing fallen in disgrace after WWII.
> >
> >Scott Erb (Professional blackboard washer), are you listening????
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > wow! no similarity there!
> >> > > >
-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

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K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:01:08 -0400

Scott Erb wrote:
> 
> Jim Richardson wrote:
> 
> > The keyword you are looking for is dictatorship...
> >  Surely you don't expect an anarchist to approve of any state run regime?
> > or were you trying to claim that there is no similarity between fascism and
> > communism? which was the point of my post. If you wish to say that there are
> > (or were) some right leaning dictatorships as bad as the some left leaning
> > ones, I'd agree, but that doesn't make the left leaning ones any less horrible.
> 
> You raise some good points -- dictatorship in the name of Allah or Jesus
> or any cause or creed shares some commonality in that centralized
> governmental power enforces the beliefs of the leaders about how their
> ideology should be implemented.
> 
> Fascism and Communism as *ideologies* are very different.  In practice,
> things get murky.  Socialist Kurt Schumacher, who (like most Social
> Democrats) fought against Communists and Fascists in street fights in
> Weimar Germany, and then was imprisioned by fascists for 12 years, after
> which he fought against the Communist take over of East Germany, called
> Stalinists and Soviet style communism "red lacquered fascism."  He
> didn't see a difference, he thought they were both fascist.  Yet he was
> a proud socialist and Marxist.

He would have a point worth noting if you could point to ANY instance
of a Marxist government which has not devolved into something as
horrifying as fascism.

Until then, it's a distinction without a difference.

You know.... 1/10th full vs 9/10ths empty.

Anybody who vehemently argues for the former, and just as vehemently
argues against the latter is a fool.

Come to think of it...that's you.



> 
> So the point is that we can compare ideologies (in which case fascism
> and communism are very different), governmental practices based on the
> labels given (in which case there are some similarities, though as
> fascism is an ideology based on irrationalism and anti-reason, it can
> range from Franco's conservative pro-church fascism to Hitler's rabid
> racism), or idealized views of how that ideology should look in practice
> (whereas democratic socialists regard the East bloc as opposed to their
> values).  In any case, debates like these unfortunately tend to become
> ones where labels are used to insult or ridicule, rather than understand
> the differences between systems and how they function.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

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   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,us.military.army
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:12:58 -0400

Fulcanelli wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (Walter Daniels) wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 23:51:38 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >Fulcanelli wrote:
> > >>
> > >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Scott Erb
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Scott Erb wrote:
> > >> > > > Too simplistic.  Here is a bit about fascism:
> >
> > >If a doctor professes to be "interested in the health of his patients",
> > >but his procedures cause every one of his patients...even those with
> > >mild colds, to die within days...because his methods call for ingesting
> > >large doses of strychnine and cyanide....would you say that this doctor's
> > >work has redeeming qualities?
> > >
> > >Translation:  The road to hell is paved with "good intentions"
> > >
> > >Intentions are worthless (and besides, they are sooooooo easy to
> > >lie about).  The ONLY thing that matters is results.
> > >
> > >ALL forms of Socialism (Fascism, Communism, and middle-of-the-road
> > >socialism) all cause GREAT amounts of harm and very very little good.
> > >
> > >In the year 1900, one could be excused for not knowing.
> > >
> > >In the year 2000, claiming to not understand that socialism is
> > >evil is inexcusable for anybody who claims to be educated.
> >
> >   Sad, but true.
> 
> Silly, and untrue.  Socialism is defined as public ownership of the means
> of production.

I.e. all of the Economic power, including mass-communications,
is under the control of the ruling politicians.

Thus, you have the three primary forms of society wide power (political
control, mass communication, and money) all concentrated in either one
person, or a very small oligarchy.

As said before...in the year 2000, claiming to not understand that
SOCIALISM IS EVIL is inexcusable for anybody who claims to be educated.

>                 Some have suggested this would involve state ownership of
> the means of production, but this state would be controlled by the
> proletariat and the rest of the public, and since the public or working
> class would control the entire means, it would naturally translate to
> public ownership or worker ownership of the means of production since they
> own the apparatus through which such means are controlled, and thus in
> effect own the means of production.
> I know about the only definitions and mis-definitions of Socialism, but
> for the most part they seem to be inventions of the ignorant, based on the
> idea that systems like the USSR are Socialist, and tend to thus become
> silliness.  If someone has a mature rebuttal that shows that these other
> systems are indeed Socialism, I will be interested, but children looking
> for an excuse to insult will not be dignified.
> 
> P.S. Doesn't it show that the right-wing is losing when they must cut off
> entire viewpoints as being "silly" when they haven't even given rational
> proof that they are silly?

So many words and not a single credible idea.


> 
> It is fun to watch them fail again and again, though.
> 
> --
> To email me, remove "NOSPAM" from my address.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Why left-wing communist assholes hate Reagan.  (was Re: Communism, 
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:13:36 -0400

Mysterion wrote:
> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Bloody Viking wrote:
> > >
> > > Organization: Ripco Internet Services- Chicago
> > > Distribution:
> > > X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]
> > >
> > > Joseph T. Adams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > >
> > > : According to left-wing communist assholes, anyone who tries to
> > > : dismantle or reform any important part of the welfare state is not
> > > : only eeeevil, bur racist, because left-wing communist assholes want us
> > > : to believe they're the only ones who can "help" poor Black and
> > > : Hispanic people, and that without this "help," they could not possibly
> > > : survive.
> > >
> > > Fun problem: Our monetary policy ensures that we can never have full
> > > employment. Since we have a policy of intentional unemployment, it is
> morally
> > > unacceptable to not have some kind of welfare system. We can quibble
> about how
> > > a welfare system should be implimented, but one is needed in a regime of
> > > intentional unemployment to cut inflation.
> >
> > Idiotic Keynesian policies are not only fully discredited, but but
> > have been ignored by both the Republican Congress AND Alan Greenspan.
> >
> > That's why unemployment has been so low lately.  Hell, in Detroit,
> > they fast food places will pay a high school kid, with zero experience,
> > $9.00 + benefits JUST TO START
> 
> But who the hell WANTS to live and work in Detroit?

Great money
Low cost of living.



-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

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K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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