Linux-Advocacy Digest #645, Volume #33 Mon, 16 Apr 01 16:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: there's always a bigger fool ("Kelsey Bjarnason")
Re: Microsoft gets hard ("David Ehrens")
Re: t. max devlin: kook ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: Communism
Re: hmm getting tired of this! (Brent R)
Re: Who can help me? ("Kelsey Bjarnason")
Re: Why left-wing communist assholes hate Reagan. (was Re: Communism, Communist
propagandists in the US...still..to this day.) (Chad Everett)
Re: there's always a bigger fool ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (Chad Everett)
Re: Communism (Chad Everett)
Re: there's always a bigger fool (Roberto Alsina)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (chrisv)
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.society.liberalism,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:15:17 -0400
Fulcanelli wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Walter Daniels wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > The Japanese Government(?) and Japanese business, are so intertwined
> > > taht there isd effectively no difference. This due in large part, to
> > > their decision after WWII, to "co-ordinate" business policies. There
> > > is a ministry, whose name escapes me, that literally controls research
> > > and development. No R&D is done, without their permission. IIRC, it
> > > also determines what can be imprted/exported.
> >
> > Which, of course, means you have a state capitalist system, similar in
> > ways to authoritarian state capitalist systems in other Asian states, like
> > Korea and Taiwan, though each have moved towards democracy, and Japan is
> > democratic.
> >
> > None of that suggests Japan is fascist. Anyone who makes that claim is
> > ignorant about what fascism is, and engaged in hyperbolic rhetoric that
> > creates more heat than light.
>
> Good point. Fascism has always, by it's nature, been anti-democratic and
> to equate a democratic nation with Fascism is silly. Now some people
> might argue that the democracy is an illusion, like some Socialists, but
> they'd never do something like claim that a democratic nation is Fascist.
> Another thing Daniels doesn't know is that, in Fascism, the state
> *assists* big business in maintaining and increasing production, as
> opposed to acting as a burden. This would make the Bush administration
> more like Fascism than Japan easily.
Clue for the Clueless...most of the "corporate welfare", as Robert Reich
so succinctly put it...was instituted by Democrats.
Republicans (and especially libertarians) advocate that the government
neither hinder NOR ASSIST businesses.
Hope that helps.
>
> --
> To email me, remove "NOSPAM" from my address.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
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DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Kelsey Bjarnason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: there's always a bigger fool
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:20:41 GMT
"Charles Lyttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
> >
> > [snips]
> >
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Charles Lyttle"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Can you cite any widely used programs that prompt for a reboot that do
> > > not actually need a reboot?
> >
> > Almost any application being installed under Win2K. If it prompts for a
> > reboot, it's almost certain not to actually need it. (One notable
> > exception is when it does, actually, provide an OS services update, such
> > as a new MSI runtime, a new version of MDAC, or the like.)
> Give me a name. How about one for NT, W2k, ME, 98, XP, etc.
Whether it needs a reboot in a given OS is dependant on several things. One
of the commoner reasons for a reboot is updating MFC DLLs in the system
folder. Whether a given application has newer versions that the ones
already installed (if indeed, any are installed) is going to depend on what
has previously been installed.
Example: Win2K, IIRC, ships with the latest versions (at time of shipping)
of the MFC DLLs. It is unlikely any application produced prior to this time
is going to have newer versions of those files. The same application being
installed under, oh, Win98 _might_ need to install or update them. You seem
to want to lump all Windows versions into a single pigeonhole, expecting the
same behaviour across all of them; that's not going to happen. Further, you
seem to be ignoring _why_ these sitations arise in the first place.
Given that, I'm not sure how one could even hope to answer your question as
written.
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From: "David Ehrens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.arch,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Microsoft gets hard
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:23:50 GMT
"JS PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
...
> That looks pretty proportional to their claim of 32,000 worldwide!
Microsoft partners include companies who have several MS-certified
(MCSE, MCP, MSD) employees on staff, or who at one point were interested
in riding the Microsoft wave. I am one of the many former "paper"
partners that MS had at one point. The advantages to these programs were
minimal, aside from the legitimacy that certification confers on
individual technicians. For instance, we had to pay distributor prices
5-10x higher than Compaq, Dell, and Gateway for product, were
continually beat up by educational "partners" who were selling product
illegally at academic discount prices, and as a company outside an urban
hub, were routinely passed over (in referrals) in favor of preferred
partners in major cities, in some cases in other states. It was a big
disappointment. I know others who bailed out of various MS programs.
I don't care if Microsoft can prove they have 500,000,000 partners.
Their allegiances lie with companies in their size and weight class, not
small consulting or integration outfits.
David Ehrens
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From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: t. max devlin: kook
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 22:18:37 +0200
"Kelsey Bjarnason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9OGC6.1256$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [snips
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> > > When *is* M$ going to develop a journaling file system?
> > >
> >
> > Bill Gates is still scratching his head trying to figure out why
> > any filesystem would want to keep a diary.
>
> FWIW, according to Microsoft, NT Server 4's NTFS was journaling. So that
> would mean they developed it a considerable time ago.
NTFS journal meta data, a fully journaling FS will journal data too.
I don't know how it will deal with nearly full HD, though.
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Crossposted-To:
alt.society.liberalism,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:35:52 GMT
>>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
Aaron> Fulcanelli wrote:
>>
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> > Walter Daniels wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > The Japanese Government(?) and Japanese business, are so intertwined
>> > > taht there isd effectively no difference. This due in large part, to
>> > > their decision after WWII, to "co-ordinate" business policies. There
>> > > is a ministry, whose name escapes me, that literally controls research
>> > > and development. No R&D is done, without their permission. IIRC, it
>> > > also determines what can be imprted/exported.
>> >
>> > Which, of course, means you have a state capitalist system, similar in
>> > ways to authoritarian state capitalist systems in other Asian states, like
>> > Korea and Taiwan, though each have moved towards democracy, and Japan is
>> > democratic.
>> >
>> > None of that suggests Japan is fascist. Anyone who makes that claim is
>> > ignorant about what fascism is, and engaged in hyperbolic rhetoric that
>> > creates more heat than light.
>>
>> Good point. Fascism has always, by it's nature, been anti-democratic and
>> to equate a democratic nation with Fascism is silly. Now some people
>> might argue that the democracy is an illusion, like some Socialists, but
>> they'd never do something like claim that a democratic nation is Fascist.
>> Another thing Daniels doesn't know is that, in Fascism, the state
>> *assists* big business in maintaining and increasing production, as
>> opposed to acting as a burden. This would make the Bush administration
>> more like Fascism than Japan easily.
Aaron> Clue for the Clueless...most of the "corporate welfare", as Robert Reich
Aaron> so succinctly put it...was instituted by Democrats.
Lots was, but I expect most of that is now rolled off.
Aaron> Republicans (and especially libertarians) advocate that the government
Aaron> neither hinder NOR ASSIST businesses.
Read the Cato (fairly libertarian) report on Corporate Welfare. The
GOP is in it as big as the democrats were when they were in power.
Aaron> Hope that helps.
Only to illustrate your ignorance and or hypocrisy.
--
Andrew Hall
(Now reading Usenet in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh...)
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From: Brent R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: hmm getting tired of this!
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:39:59 GMT
Matthew Gardiner wrote:
>
> <snype>
>
> Nope, quite warm. Government still owns power, hence, no California
> crisis. Gas, we have a nice gas field on the east coast and several
> other places that meets the requirements of New Zealand. Also, most
> NZ'ders don't have fucking huge houses. Went to the US, and 1st the
> houses are fucking huge when compared to the likes of whats in Aussie
> and the UK. 2nd, Yanks don't just heat the house, they turn it into a
> sauna, I mean, not just to warm it up so you just wear a track suite or
> something, warm to the point that you are actually wearing summer gear.
> New Zealand has cheaper electicity because of our natural advantge,
> shit, you could chuck a windmill anywhere and you will make power in New
> Zealand. However, in terms of gas, during winter, when I lived with my
> parents, the cost per month was around $140-160 per month, which works
> out to be around $US65 per month, which is bloody cheap.
>
> Matthew Gardiner
Making a blanket statement like Americans like big houses and like to
heat them excessively is just silly. There is a tendency for Americans
to like unnecessarily big things, which I would agree is stupid, but
that's their personal preference... and if they have the buying power to
pay for the heating then they can have big houses. Although I would find
that to be a waste of money.
As for the heating thing... I'm not sure where you're coming from. Is
that a statistic or just a result of an assumption you made based on the
few token US households you visited when you came here? I suspect the
latter... unless you managed to visit more than 100,000 houses or so
(enough to make a reasoned assumption on the heating tendencies of the
US).
Also coming from NZ why would you even compare heating prices with the
US? Have you ever been to the US mid-West?? It's a huge area that is
statistically colder than Siberia in some areas (Minnesota).
This sounds like an old-fashioned case of US-bashing... usually fueled
by the sender's feelings of inferiority.
> --
> I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
>
> If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself
>
> Running SuSE Linux 7.1
>
> The best of German engineering, now in software form
--
- Brent
http://rotten168.home.att.net
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From: "Kelsey Bjarnason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Who can help me?
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:42:31 GMT
[snip city]
"ja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9beoo1$16gu$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> I face a problem about compile.
>
> %cc -o AppTest AppTest.c
> AppTest.c: In function 'Attempt Connection':
> AppTest.c:253: in compatible type for argument 2 of 'connect'
> AppTest.c: In function 'GetReturnStatus':
> AppTest.c:storage size of 'readFds' isn't known.
>
> Do you know what's wrong?
The fact you're asking for programming help in an advocacy newsgroup instead
of a programming newsgroup? However...
> //AppTest.c:253: in compatible type for argument 2 of 'connect'
> // compile tell me ServerAddr have something wrong . why???
> // How to modify ?
> if (connect (Socket, ServerAddr, sizeof (struct sockaddr_in)) == ERROR)
Well, I don't know about the *nix flavours of connect, but the Win32 flavour
wants a _pointer_ to a sockaddr as the second parameter, not a copy of a
sockaddr.
> int GetReturnStatus ()
> {
> int BytesRead;
> int selectCount;
> //AppTest.c:storage size of 'readFds' isn't known.
> //How to modify?
> struct fd_set readFds;
Sounds like fd_set isn't defined in any of the headers you've included; have
you poked around to find out where it _is_ defined?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Why left-wing communist assholes hate Reagan. (was Re: Communism,
Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 16 Apr 2001 14:35:03 -0500
On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:13:36 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Mysterion wrote:
>>
>> But who the hell WANTS to live and work in Detroit?
>
>Great money
>Low cost of living.
>
The same could be said for Saudi Arabia.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: there's always a bigger fool
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:48:28 -0400
Matthew Gardiner wrote:
>
> Just as a follow up for Pete to read, isn't libc one of the most
> important libraries on the OS? hence, its not just one of those minor
> ones, its a major one, and requires no reboot. Now thats what I call
> convenient.
Yes. without libc, NOTHING works.
>
> Matthew Gardiner
>
> The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
> >
> > In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Matthew Gardiner
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote
> > on Sun, 15 Apr 2001 00:39:09 +1200
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >I updated my glibc from 2.1 to 2.2 and did not require a reboot.
> >
> > This may illustrate why Linux works better than Windows; one issue
> > here is that executables requiring the services of glibc are
> > pointing to one copy of the file, whereas anything started up
> > after the installation of the new file will, unless they explicitly
> > specify 2.1 as a version (presumably, this is done during link time
> > or during dlopen() time by appending the version number), get
> > the new version.
> >
> > Heaven help the sysadmin types if there are incompatibilities between
> > 2.1 and 2.2. However, that's extremely rare, though I suspect
> > something like that has happened on Unix.
> >
> > The only way to deal with that is to kill all daemons referring to
> > glibc -- unfortunately, that includes init. Reboot time! But
> > again, that's extremely rare -- and its even rarer because Linux
> > doesn't support the notion of a global shared data segment between all
> > processes using a certain library; if a process wants functionality
> > like that, one has to use mmap(), read it from a file, or otherwise
> > deal with this lack, and most Unix utilities functions are
> > downward-compatible, which has the downside of a number of
> > deprecated switches on occasion (make(1), for example,
> > ignores the switches -b and -m). One hopes in the case of mmap()
> > that all writers respect the original version and that the file
> > itself can be upgraded once the system reboots. (Note that glibc
> > implements mmap(), but AFAIK no call within glibc uses it.)
> >
> > An example of a system which might have had shared-data per library
> > was the Amiga, which had true shared libraries (but no
> > memory mapping). However, it wasn't automatic; the library had to
> > set it up and maintain it itself.
> >
> > By contrast, NT doesn't implement versioning on their DLLs beyond
> > the relatively crude 'msvcrt20.dll' and 'mfc30.dll'. Presumably,
> > the installer moves them out of the way, but the DLL loader -- I
> > think -- will load exactly one copy of a DLL, and, until needed,
> > will not unload it; NT therefore thinks that the old copy of the DLL
> > is the same as the new and won't load the new one. I think
> > the name is 'MSVCRT20' or 'MFC30'.
> >
> > (Linux does the same, but the name is the full file pathname,
> > which means the control is finer and much more reliable. Also,
> > I think the device and inode gets involved in there somewhere; two
> > different files will not have the same device and inode.
> > I'd have to look, but AFAIK Linux can share physical code pages,
> > as can NT.)
> >
> > >
> > >Matthew Gardiner
> > >
> > >Ayende Rahien wrote:
> > >>
> > >> "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> > Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > [snips]
> > >> > >
> > >> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Since there is no junior-high-designed "registry" to get corrupted,
> > >> > > > there is ZERO need to shut down other programs to install a new app.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Umm... the registry is not the reason apps require reboots. Generally
> > >> > > speaking, there are three reasons an install wants to reboot:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 1) It has attempted to update a locked file, such as a system file.
> > >> > > 2) It has installed something expected to run during the startup phase
> > >> of
> > >> > > operations
> > >> > > 3) It is installing a service (not in the NT sense, but in the sense of
> > >> a
> > >> > > background application or library) which needs to be launched in order
> > >> to
> > >> > > work
> > >> > >
> > >> > > One might suggest that in the case of #3, a better approach could be
> > >> used.
> > >> > > I agree. In the cases of #2 and #1, I'm not sure how, given such an
> > >> > > application being installed, Linux would handle this any better; how
> > >> exactly
> > >> > > does Linux handle live patching of the kernel, for example, without
> > >> > > rebooting?
> > >> > >
> > >> > Just in regards to:
> > >> >
> > >> > 1. Linux has most, if not all libraries installed required for most
> > >> > software, however, when more libraries need to be installed, no reboot
> > >> > is required. Under O/S 2 Warp 4, you had to reboot after applying a
> > >> > service pack (because it included low-level drivers, kernel updates
> > >> > etc), however, in an application sense, it should not be required.
> > >>
> > >> What about needing to update those libraries?
> > >>
> > >> > 2. Can be started then and there. Just like if I want to add support for
> > >> > a USB Zip drive, I simply drop into shell and type: insmod usb-storage,
> > >> > and voila, instant access to my hardware. I have installed Solaris
> > >> > patches and the only time you need to reboot is when the kernel has been
> > >> > updated, however, it is not forced, unlike Microsoft Windows.
> > >>
> > >> I don't think he meant this, there are several stuff that *need* reboot,
> > >> because they can't be done when the computer is running.
> > >> Converting the FS type of the system partition, or making changes to it,
> > >> frex.
> > >> I don't think that you can do that in linux without reboot either.
> > >>
> > >> > 3. Services, yet another thing that can be started on the fly. For
> > >> > example, I could start up Apache without needing to reboot. I could
> > >> > start Squid proxy with out a reboot.
> > >>
> > >> Dito for NT. There is nothing to prevent you from starting & shutting down
> > >> services whenever you like it.
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> > What I am pointing out is that, if you take a kernel upgrade out of the
> > >> > equation, a OS should never need to be rebooted, and hopefully once
> > >> > hot-plug PCI becomes more mainstream, even needing to shut down the
> > >> > computer to install hardware will become a thing of the past.
> > >>
> > >> I fully agree.
> > >> Something to point out, though. Ninety nine precent of the applications that
> > >> want reboot, don't need it. It's something that had been there because of
> > >> 9x. And I certnaily close none of my applications to install new ones.
> > >> (Well, I log in as another user via TS, but that is another matter.)
> > >
> > >--
> > >I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operater from Hell)
> > >
> > >If you donot like it go [#rm -rf /home/luser] yourself
> > >
> > >Running SuSE Linux 7.1 Pro w/ Kernel 2.4.2
> > >
> > >SuSE, the best of German engineering, now in software form :)
> >
> > --
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
> > EAC code #191 8d:10h:21m actually running Linux.
> > Use the source, Luke.
>
> --
> I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
>
> If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself
>
> Running SuSE Linux 7.1
>
> The best of German engineering, now in software form
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 16 Apr 2001 14:38:01 -0500
On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:53:02 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Charles Lyttle wrote:
>>
>> BZZT. WRONG again. Capitalism has nothing to do with free markets. In
>> fact, once the GOVERNMENT starts creating artifical persons in the form
>> of corporations, free markets go out the window. No capitalist country
>> has free markets. In Fascist countries, it often happens that Capital
>> controls the government. The US and Japan are two of the most
>> capitalistic countries around. Just try to take a boat load of
>> California oranges to Japan and sell them. Or get a load of Japaneese
>> eletronics/games/CDs and bring them here to sell. Both countries would
>> be out to hang you for interfearing with the the local capitalist.
>>
>
>Japan is fascist.
>
Have you informed the Japanese people of this? It's a shame the US
setup and has been fostering a fascist country that surrendered to
us in 1945.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 16 Apr 2001 14:39:16 -0500
On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:41:39 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>billh wrote:
>>
>> "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>>
>> > ANSWER THE QUESTION!
>>
>> Dance, little man, dance. LOL!!!
>
>Notice how Bill Hudson refuses to tell us how long he's served in any combat zones.
>
Maybe it's classified.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: there's always a bigger fool
Date: 16 Apr 2001 19:54:47 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:48:28 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Matthew Gardiner wrote:
>>
>> Just as a follow up for Pete to read, isn't libc one of the most
>> important libraries on the OS? hence, its not just one of those minor
>> ones, its a major one, and requires no reboot. Now thats what I call
>> convenient.
>
>Yes. without libc, NOTHING works.
Well, here again Aaron shows how little he knows about the inner
workings of a unix system.
Had he said "nothing works" I would have let it pass. But no,
he had to say "NOTHING works".
Bullshit, Aaron. Read this and weep (if you understand it):
[ralsina@pc03 ralsina]$ ldd /sbin/* |grep "not a"|wc -l
16
Ok, you probably didn't. Here it is in detail: no dynamic
binary will work. But all static ones will.
--
Roberto Alsina (Who remembers systems where there was no
libc binary at all)
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From: chrisv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:56:46 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (silverback) wrote:
>just remember we tried that bullshit lazy fairy economic bullshit once
>in this country. It ended in a spectular failure called the Great
>Depression.
Learn how to trim posts, Comrad.
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