Linux-Advocacy Digest #711, Volume #33 Thu, 19 Apr 01 22:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: Who votes for Sliverdick to be executed: AYEs:10 NAYS:0 (1 ABSTAIN) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: What's the point (GreyCloud)
Red Hat has become scary? ("B. R. Ivy")
Re: Why left-wing communist assholes hate Reagan. (was Re: ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: The X-Box and monopoly was: Blame it all on Microsoft (Roy Culley)
Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! (GreyCloud)
Re: Firewire nightmare (GreyCloud)
Re: Aaron Kuklis Arrested! (GreyCloud)
Re: Communism ("billh")
Re: Am I ****? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000 ("Ed")
Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) ("billh")
Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) ("billh")
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (theRadical)
Re: What's the point ("pookoopookoo")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Who votes for Sliverdick to be executed: AYEs:10 NAYS:0 (1 ABSTAIN)
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:07:31 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > "Gunner ©" wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:55:07 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >"Gunner ©" wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:08:44 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Hehehehhehe
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> I'm not registered to vote in this precinct, but since I'm a registered
> > > >> >> Democrat does that matter? <G>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Since Democrats don't care about such niceties, you are allowed
> > > >> >to vote AYE in the election, regardless of where you live.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> In fact Sue... you can even vote more than once. Feel free to fill out
> > > >> the form in your hometown, and again while visiting Fresno.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >In the spirit of the Democrat Party, I'll make that 5 AYEs for Sue
> > > >4 in her home town, and one in Fresno.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >AYE: 9
> > > >NAY: 0
> > > >ABSTAIN: 1
> > > >
> > > >When, oh when, will Professor Erb come to rescue his beloved Sliverdick?
> > > >
> > > oooh oooh! We now have enough for a fireing party! YAY. Now who brings
> > > the steaks?
> >
> > Not quite. Sue, being the good Democrat that she is, observered
> > her party's traditional voting methods, and casted 5 ballots.
>
> Considering how I voted in the last election I don't think the Democrats
> would think I'm so "good".
It's amazing how women lose their taste for the Democrat party once
the taxes are coming directly out of THEIR OWN spending money....
>
> Sue
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's the point
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:12:10 -0700
B'ichela wrote:
>
> On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 01:13:45 -0700, GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >This may not come as a surprise, but there are a lot of 30+ year olds in
> >the U.S. that have a hard time reading a simple newspaper. That's why
> >us older folks are being asked to come back to work because the younger
> >generation can't read the technical manuals or follow simple written
> >instructions. Very pathetic.
> I know lots of those people who the minute I try to teach them
> Unix using a very simplified textbook, slam the book down and refuse
> to read it based on its thickness! These same people cry "B'ichela" when
> trying to program their VCR or set up a simple Direct-TV (single LNB)
> sattelite system!
> I was taught the old way, by books. I am 33, female and
> college educated! I learn by doing things and I am not afraid of
> failure. Heres a Linux Example of my thinking:
> I have a ancient Adaptec ACB-4070 bridgeboard. its old, crufty
> and not fully Scsi-1 complient (it lacks the identify Scsi command). I
> wanted to put it to use. I asked on comp.periph.scsi if anyone had
> pointers for software or manuals (I had none). I got lots of help and
> manuals to configure and interface.
> This board CLEARLY was RTFM! I had to hack the Linux 2.0.38
> scsi.c routine to add the proper kludges. Please NOTE! I don't know
> advanced C at all, yet I pressed on. With my K&R Ansi C manual and a
> book from Kochan to learn C I began to get the thing working
> (unforcunatly its a RLL board and I only had a MFM drive. Drive not
> RLL friendly). After several days of printing and reading and failed
> compiles I got the driver to at least talk to the board. Because my
> drive was not RLL I could not sucessfully low level it.
> What I learned in the end was several things
> 1. If I want it done. I gotta do the homework.
> 2. Dont make a new Lilo boot until your loadlin bzImage version is
> working right. I learned this one long ago. Glad I though of this
> before potentially distroying a stable system ;)
> 3. I learned some things about pointers and structs.
> 4. MFM drives don't do RLL well.
> 5. Learned about how the Scsi Bus operates in reguards to the level 0
> and level 1 command sets.
>
> My friends who are not very good at technoligy at all sat
> there flabergasted that I was not afraid to tackle such a project.
> They told me that they would have just thrown the board out.
> The same goes with dealing with simple Sattelite dish
> installations. I did both a single LNB DTV system and a Dish Network
> Dish 500 system. What I learned was invaluable in the future
> installation of dish systems.
>
> As for the ACB-4070 bridgeboard project? I need a RLL drive if
> I want to give it another go or a ACB-4000a bridgeboard (its the MFM
> version). Personally I still want to use this sucker! anyone got
> either a RLL drive or the ACB-4000a bridgeboard laying around I would
> like to have it.
>
> --
>
> B'ichela
You are one of the few that can research. One of the biggest limiting
factor is "You can't do that". Once one gets that limit set into their
head its all over with.
Have any of your college professors say "Its not possible"? Those are
limits.
What about researchers? Do they go to the universities to find out more
about what they are researching? Nope. The new knowledge comes from
proper research which brings out the knowledge inside.
The school system in our state is having a fit. Even on TV an anchorman
challenged the gov. to improve the school system and urged everyone that
is disenfranchised with the school system to send the governor a broken
pencil to represent the broken promise.
The place where my brother is now working, canned about 20 people that
couldn't read.
My older brother is at retirement age and now the company is begging him
to stay on... even offering a big pay raise.
--
V
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From: "B. R. Ivy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Red Hat has become scary?
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:15:40 -0500
Does anyone out there think that Red Hat is moving towards a proprietory OS?
I really appreciated the way that RH 7.0 installed but it almost seemed too
slick. And now they want to bundle in the way too pretty Nautilus GUI with
7.1. I'd hate to wake up five years from now with another Microsoft on the
horizon. Ideas? Opinions?
Randall Ivy
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why left-wing communist assholes hate Reagan. (was Re:
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:17:32 -0400
Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>
> On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:12:30 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> >>
>
> > Actually, they still do. They use a front-end loader, and dump a couple
> > of tons of rock on the condemned.
> >
> > It's quite instantaneous.
>
> Read the URL.
>
>
> >> On Women's rights:
> >>
> >> It's amusing that you suggest that women there are treated better -- they can't
> >> drive, and can't go anywhere without a mans permission. THey can't pursue
> >> a career of choice. Read it and weep ...
> >
> > Crimes against women are FAR lower...primarily because women there
> > don't go around pretending to be men.
>
> Yeah, I suppose driving a car, or going out without a male relative, or
> not wearing correct muslim attire, or work is "pretending to be a man".
> Just out of curiosity, do you impose these sorts of restrictions on your
> girlfriend ?
Never been in Saudi Arabia, have you, so please keep your ignorant
stereotypes to yourself.
For example.
Non-muslim women are not only not expected to cover their faces, etc.,
but it is considered a minor insult for a non-islamic woman to dress
like an islamic woman.
>
> You pretend to be such a passionate advocate of freedom, but now you are
> showing your true colors by coming clean with the fact that think that
> only men are entitled to any freedom at all (and even the men have fairly
> limited freedom, apart from freedom to rape and beat their wives and
> servants)
Nah. I'm just saying that women in Saudi Arabia have a much better life
than American woman...thanks to American feminists.
>
> As for crimes against women being lower, it's a contentious claim. First,
> if women in the US never went out without an accompanying male relative,
> I suppose crimes against women would decrease.
>
> ===
> The Government does not keep statistics on spousal or other forms of violence
> against women. However, based on the limited amount of information available
> regarding physical spousal abuse and violence against women, such violence and
> abuse appear to be a problem. Hospital workers report that many women are
> admitted for treatment of injuries that apparently result from spousal
> violence. Some foreign women have suffered physical abuse from their Saudi
> husbands. A Saudi man can prevent his wife and any child or unmarried adult
> daughter from obtaining an exit visa to depart Saudi Arabia (see Section
> 2.d.).
> ===
>
> BTW, I forgot to mention (again, no freedom)
>
> ===
> In public a woman is expected to wear an abaya, a black garment covering the
> entire body, and to also cover her head and face. The Mutawwa'in generally
> expect women from Arab countries, Asia, and Africa to comply more fully with
> Saudi customs of dress than they do Western women; nonetheless, in recent
> years they have instructed Western women to wear the abaya and cover their
> hair. In 1997 Mutawwa'in continued to admonish and harass women to wear their
> abayas and cover their hair.
> ===
>
> --
> Donovan Rebbechi * http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/ *
> elflord at panix dot com
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roy Culley)
Subject: Re: The X-Box and monopoly was: Blame it all on Microsoft
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 02:15:32 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Paolo Ciambotti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Rob
> Barris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> The ports are USB protocol but not standard USB connectors.
>
> Typical Microsoft. Almost standard, but not quite.
Of course. They will bring out the Microsoft X-Box mouse and keyboard.
One of the funniest things I saw in the main bookshop in Bern last
year, which has loads of Linux Distro's and Unix/Linux books, were
Microsoft Internet keyboards! Just got to get me one of those. :-)
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:24:40 -0700
JS PL wrote:
>
> As hard as it may be to believe, even in Washington, price and quality have
> some value. When a reporter asked why her agency uses Microsoft products,
> Reno explained that her procurement policy is to "buy the best equipment
> possible at the lowest price possible to benefit the American taxpayers."
>
> That's quite a concession. The purpose of American anti-trust law is not to
> prop up corporations that are losing market share, but to protect consumers.
> If Windows is the "best" available operating system at the "lowest possible
> price," it's hard to see what good it does Microsoft customers to split the
> company in half.
>From a gov. standpoint that translates into "buy from the lowest
bidder".
--
V
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Firewire nightmare
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:29:01 -0700
Mark Styles wrote:
>
> After purchasing a new digital camcorder, I decided I would like to
> capture vids to put online, so I went out and bought an Adaptec
> FireConnect 4300 IEEE1394 capture card. My nightmare began....
>
> After plugging the card in to my Windows PC, I booted up. The card got
> picked up, so far so good I thought. I turned on my camera, nothing
> happened. I fiddled around for a while, then gave up and emailed
> Adaptec support. They told me I had to upgrade Windows 98 to Windows98
> SE.
>
> After upgrading (after physically removing my 2nd hard drive because
> the upgrade process was complaining about it), I tried again. This
> time the camera appeared in device manager, but trying to capture
> locked up the PC.
>
> Another email to Adaptec, and this time I had to shuffle the PCI cards
> around to get the card on it's own interrupt (so much for plug and
> play!). After trying countless combinations I finally managed to get
> the card all on it's lonesome at IRQ 5. I rebooted and tried again.
>
Thats why some call it plug 'n pray.
> No good, the capture software still locked up. I emailed Adaptec
> again, this time they phoned me, and I spent two hours on the phone
> with the guy (who was extremely pleasant and helpful btw) trying to
> get it sorted out. We managed to get the capture software to stop
> locking up, but all I could capture was a garbled image. He decided it
> was a faulty card.
>
> I took the card back to the shop and got a replacement. Plugged it in,
> exactly the same problem. Now the technician has decided it is
> something wrong with Windows, but he has no idea what, or how to deal
> with it.
>
> So, after all that, I've decided that I'm going to try to install the
> card in my Linux machine instead, and use the - still under
> development - firewire drivers for Linux. I'll report back on whether
> or not this experience is any less unpleasant.
That will be interesting to read.
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Aaron Kuklis Arrested!
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:30:09 -0700
WesTralia wrote:
>
> "Public " wrote:
> >
> > I think the following explains why Usenet has been without Kuklis the last couple
> > of days:
> >
> > April 17, 2001 22:12:30 - Associated Press
> >
> > Royal Oak, Michigan - A man was arrested on Monday at a local CompUSA store after
> > causing a disturbance and threatening store employees. Police were called to the
> > scene shortly after 5PM after the store manager called 911 and reported the they
> > had a hostile customer who was threatening and hysterical. Police arrived on the
> > scene and discovered the suspect, identified as Aaron Kuklis, screaming at the top
>of his
> > lungs. The man was allegedly became irrate shortly after entering the store and
> > discovering that CompuUSA was no longer carrying the Windows 98 Operating System.
> >
> > Police booked Mr. Kuklis into the county detention center on public nuisance
>charges.
> >
>
> I have it from a reliable source that upon searching Mr Kulkis' trousers
> the police found a shrink-wrapped version "small edition" of Microsoft Bob.
>
> --
Gee... isn't this slander??
--
V
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From: "billh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:31:00 GMT
"Aaron R. Kulkis"
> Tell us again...just for the record.
It is recorded. Find it, wannabe.
BTW, I always drew HFP $300 increments. I seriously doubt you have a clue
as to why. If you're careful and use a few brain cells you'll be able to
determine why from my original posted. You'll also be able to determine
exactly how the exact amount of my income protected by the Combat Zone
Exclusion to Taxes. You're pathetic, KuKu. Simply pathetic.
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From: "Ed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: rec.photo.digital,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Am I ****? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:33:49 GMT
Tor, you seem to be obsessed with your claim that "to be f*****" is correct
and common English. Now I've been to Norway several times, and I find it to
be a fine country with wonderful people, many of whom speak English quite
well, but I can't help but observe that for most of them it is not their
native language, and they would probably refrain from lecturing others on
correct usage of it.
As for your specific claim, you seem an intelligent fellow, but you cannot
be serious when you claim that "f***" is acceptable and normal English.
Perhaps it was 400 years ago on a dock in London, but this is not 400 years
ago. This is here and now, and the word "f***" is currently considered not
acceptable for public usage. So continue to amuse yourself with Ye Olde
Dictionary if you like, but you really aren't at all persuasive on the
matter.
--
---
"Tor Iver Wilhelmsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Jim Knowles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On the other hand, there's always the possibility that a preference
> > for intercourse with his camera is the REAL reason our friend above
> > has refrained from procreation.....
>
> I don't get you assholes: You keep throwing around pathetic insults at
> anyone who posted anything non-negative about the presence of the four
> letter word in the initial subject line - without EVER providing an
> alternative to the common English expression "to be fucked" when used
> in this non-sexual context.
>
> Please get some life, all of you.
>
> --
> Tor Iver Wilhelmsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> This line intentionally left cluttered. dfgjksdfdghsdknfgsjksngskj
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From: "billh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:36:34 GMT
"Roberto Alsina"
>, and still you can't see that it doesn't
> matter if I understand it or not, because the commandment was not given to
> me.
Then it is simply hypocrisy for you to use it as a point of debate.
> Even if you believe you understand it, that's not enough.
> Even if Moses believed he understood it, that's not enough.
>
> Shouldn't you and Moses actually understand it to mean the same thing?
>
> Or rather, since you were not given the commandment, shouldn't you be
> forced to understand it the same way Moses did? *HE* is the one
> supposed to speak to god, not you.
For whom do you think the word of God was meant?
Your statement above proves you know little, if anything, about the
Scriptures. I suggest you learn a bit more before you debate them or use
them to in an attempt to make a point.
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From: "billh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:42:44 GMT
"Roberto Alsina"
> You apparently don't know what absurd means.
> You say it's not murder because it's not unlawful, right?
No. I said killing in war is not murder, is not unlawful, is not immoral,
and is not unethical.
You chose to believe that means I said, "it's not murder because it's not
unlawful." Something I've never said
The two are not the same.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (theRadical)
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:42:12 GMT
On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:26:13 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>theRadical wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:40:32 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >The captain wasn't even on the bridge. The HELMSMAN was steering the
>> >ship, not the Captain....
>> >
>> >In such circumstances, the Captain BELONGS off the bridge, because
>> >he only gets in the way of the Helmsman and the Officer of the Deck.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> good one. that is the stupidest fucking thing i have ever read.
>
>You have no idea how large craft actually operate, do you?
more than you obviously.
>
>
>> where did you pick that up, from all the merchant mariners you blow?
>
>What part of "The captain doesn't man the helm" do you not understand?
i understand it completely. however, that in no way diminishes his
ultimate responsibility for the ship.
>
>The HELMSMAN mans the helm (translation: he steers).
>The officer of the deck tells the helmsman what course to steer.
and the captain is ultimately responsible for any and all moves made
by both of those people whether he is not he bridge or not.
therefore, and especially in hazardous areas, the captain is almost
always on the bridge.
>
>In dangerous waters, especially ports, straights, canals, etc., the
>captain has ZERO responsibility for the course of the ship...that is
>turned over to local navigators who know the local waters (depths,
>currents, wrecks, shoals, sandbars, etc.) thoroughly.
agreed. i think the technical name you are so doltishly searching for
here is "pilot." you claim to be an expert in naval navigation and
don't even know that harbor pilots are called pilots?
>
>The captain's job is to see to it that the ship performs it's mission.
yes, true.
>For the most part, that means lots of paperwork. Conducting inspections
>throughout the ship, etc.
what a fucking joke. most ship captains spend their time on the
bridge. i think you merchant marine customers have definitely lead
you astray.
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From: "pookoopookoo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's the point
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:50:02 -0400
> Nope. X is a server. The gui is the client. This ain't windows.
> Linux is the O/S.
True, but to a visual artist, the GUI is all there is to it. All the
important stuff anyway.
> More than likely, you should go to pcpitstop.com and try to test your
> hardware first.
My hardware is A1, I put it together myself works perfectly in Win2k.
Otherwise I don't think i would even have been able to install Linux =) I'm
also a (OS agnostic as I can be) competent hardware technician.
> You can hang X by having your video card not responding like it should.
> I had RH6.0 and it never crashed. On that computer I was using ECC
> memory and ATI video.
Could be. I run Linux in VMware, not that it should matter much, but it's
emulated hardware so I'll buy that. I remember though when I (briefly)
installed Mandrake 7.2, I had almost the same problems. I was so fed up with
gears and bombs (the mandrake KDE core dump / segfault dialog) I took it
off, reclaimed my HDD space and installed it in VMware, where it would be
easier to deal with.
> > I'm a graphic designer by trade, not a programmer. I find linux VERY
user
> > unfriendly. I have yet to find something to do on it that I can't do
easier,
> > faster and more reliably in windows (and even, to a lesser degree, MacOS
9).
> > I'm used to photoshop, illustrator and quark...Gimp, killustrator and
latex
> > are VERY poor substitutes...=(
> If you're a grahpic designer you should be real happy with SGI IRIX
> systems.
> You want speed? Use these.
Nah, no app support. The only thing we do with these is plug our RIPs into
them. They're not much use for actual design. All that happens on the macs.
> The apps is just a matter of your mental approach to a problem. The
> UNIX apps work differently but do get the job done. Wait until Mac OS X
> gets their apps up and running, and you'll see what I mean. Things will
> work differently than what you are used to... you just have to go thru
> retraining is all.
Now that MacOS X is out though, I won't _need_ Linux. MacOS X will make it
obsolete. We can run every app we need after a simple recompile IIRC. It's
Linux, only better, and much, much prettier. But it ain't free baby! =) That
counts for a lot. Also the fact that I'm PC based at home, so I'll run Win2k
until Linux catches up to MacOS X in simplicity and App support =)
But my little vmware install will lurk in my hdd forever if I can help
it...just waiting for the day I can finally switch. Hopefully that day will
come during my lifetime =)
> > I'd use a free OS if I could. I love the principle behind Linux (that's
the
> > liberal commie in me speaking =).
> :-)
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