Linux-Advocacy Digest #749, Volume #33 Sat, 21 Apr 01 08:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: Aaron Kuklis Arrested! ("Todd")
Re: What's the point (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: What's the point (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: What's the point ("Todd")
Re: Microsoft gets hard (Nils Holland)
Re: Why do Win advocates suck? Part 1 (Martigan)
Re: What's the point (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: Aaron Kuklis Arrested! (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: Who votes for Sliverdick to be executed: AYEs:10 NAYS:0 (1 ABSTAIN) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: Pete Goodwin is in good company (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: Pete Goodwin is in good company (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:44:19 +1200
> Detesting homosexuality is NOT the same as fear.
>
> Hope that helps.
Why do you detest it?
Matthew Gardiner
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From: "Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Aaron Kuklis Arrested!
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 18:47:37 +0800
Reply-To: "Todd" <todd<remove>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> how come you are running Windows 98?
Why not?
> how come you posted it using HTML encoding?
HTML rocks over text.
Are you stuck in the dark ages or something?
-Todd
>
> Matthew Gardiner
> --
> I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
>
> If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself
>
> Running SuSE Linux 7.1
>
> The best of German engineering, now in software form
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's the point
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:50:54 +1200
B'ichela wrote:
>
> On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:13:25 +0200, Roy Culley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >She was the reason I got out of the UK (well that's what I like to say
> >when people ask). I wouldn't wish Maggie on any country. It is only because
> >the British people are so placid (it came very close to rebellion at times
> >during her premiership) that they allowed her to do what she did.
> Just a repsonse. I rather stay in the U.S for the following
> reasons
> 1. I was born here.
> 2. I hate changing plugs ;) (from U.S to Euro and back)
> 3. English is my native language
>
> Now if anyone in the U.S in the New England area is willing to
> hire email me with your requirements. I should point out. I am
> visually impaired but still can see some. I cannot drive, My SSI check
> does not leave me enough for a professional mover. I am willing to
> telecommute (what a concept!). I am considering the Providence RI and
> Boston Ma. areas near the MBTA (Massechussetts Bay Transit Authority).
> I live in Willimantic Connecticut near Norwich Ct.
>
> --
>
> B'ichela
You should jump onto www.stuff.co.nz and see if there is a job in New
Zealand. We're a laid back country, jobs are easy to find, and the grass
is always green, what more can a person ask for?
Matthew Gardiner
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If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's the point
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:59:35 +1200
> Really? Explain why 2.4.2 has a Reiserfs bug fixed.
>
> Explain why 2.4.3 has not zero, not one, but THREE bugs regarding the
> Reiserfs fixed?
>
> Explain why 2.4.4 pre-4 has a Reiserfs bug fixed in it so far.
Explain why in the Windows 2000 Service pack 1 they included an update
to the NTFS driver? that not including all the service packs from NT4 in
regards to the NTFS. I have used Reiserfs since obtaining a copy of
Mandrake 7.1, and I have never had a problem, no data loss, what so
ever. If you are going to say ReiserFS isn't up to the standard, please
give an example.
Matthew Gardiner
--
I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself
Running SuSE Linux 7.1
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From: "Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's the point
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 19:02:06 +0800
Reply-To: "Todd" <todd<remove>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"Donn Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Todd wrote:
> >
> > Welcome to Linux.
> >
> > It takes endless hours to do simple things that under Windows is done
> > automatically.
> >
> > And they say it is a conspiracy.
>
> Not if you actually know how to USE said operating system (which, in
> this case, is Linux).
I have RedHat 7.0.
> Windows is a complete joke, my man. You mean you
> really think that DOS-based piece of crap is better than Linux? LOL!
Hell no... I have almost never used 9x... My path was OS/2 -> NT 3.5/4.0 ->
Windows 2000.
Never have a really *used* 9x.
> So, Todd. Are you enjoying the speed and reliability of the excellent
> FAT filesystem?
I use NTFS 5.0 which supports encryption (128bit) and compression built into
the filesystem.
> You know, the one that requires weekly defragmentation?
Haven't defragged for a long time. But I guess if I needed to I could
simply use the built in defrag utility.
> Also, I've read some books on Windows programming. I had to laugh at
> how you're supposed to code around the numerous problems in Windows,
> like for example, putting a message loop in your program to allow your
> app to multitask with other apps better. LOL!
A message loop? Every Win32 program *requires* a message loop to capture
messages. I don't know how you could write a Win32 windowed application
without one.
If you are talking about the 'PeekMessage' function, this is really not
necessary. You could use another thread, for example. Most D3D games use
PeekMessage to update the 'scene' when there are no events.
If you are programming for the 9x class of OSes, you are right, Windows is
pretty lame. NT and 2000 are rock solid and work great.
By the way, do you have any references on those Windows programming books? I
have quite a few programming books on Win32 and have never seen this...
> How come Linux doesn't
> need this? How come I can format a floppy and do other things in Linux?
Again, I am using Windows 2000... formatiing a floppy is nothing.
(Actually, my computers don't even have floppy drives :)
> There are better things to judge an operating system on than the endless
> ease-of-use issues,
But that is what is important to the *vast* majority of computer users.
> because once you've mastered the learning curve of
> an OS, reliability and performance become the most important issues.
The most important issue for me is being able to run the applications that I
want to run. An OS is pretty much useless if it doesn't have apps. that
people want.
> And unix filesystems are better, because your data isn't scattered all
> over your disk with a linked-list data chain. You've got the inode
> system with unix filesystems, which is much better than that linked-list
> piece of crap you call FAT.
Hmmm... benchmarks of Windows 2000 have been pretty good with NTFS. Also,
since NTFS is journaled, I haven't yet lost a file due to corruption unlike
under Windows 9x and OS/2. (heh - i always lost the os2.ini file due to
corruption)
NTFS has been the most reliable FS I have ever used.
-Todd
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From: Nils Holland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.arch,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Microsoft gets hard
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:04:10 +0200
unicat wrote:
> (The folowing are the editorial opinions of the author,
> no more no less...)
>
> I recenly saw rumors on some internet chat pages that Linux hackers are
> already
> porting Linux, and Apache, to the Microsoft X-box using Xbox developers
> kits....
You didn't read that on April 1st, when even the KDE folks "announced" that
they and Troll Tech would base the next version of KDE / QT on Mozilla and
Java-Script technology? And after all, you said yourself that the
Linux/Xbox stuff were rumors. In fact, some time before the official
release of the Playstation 2, some German computer magazine wrote that that
machine would be totally Linux-based. Now that it's there, I don't think
this is true, however.
Anyway, I don't think you are totally right in your original message. You
said Windows is dead. I don't think so. Enough fools, including big
companies, see Windows as the ultimate operating system, and they buy any
new version of it, leaving Microsoft with a big market. If Windows was
dead, I believe Microsoft would be dead too! In the past, Microsoft was
probably able to do some strange business strategies, but that was only
possible because they were (and are) the leaders in a certain field (namely
the field of the OS-market). However, I think they don't have much besides
their OS (maybe their office package, but not much more). And, according to
how I see the situation, I don't think that Microsoft will be able to
successfuly enter other markets and simply kill the companies that have
been in these markets for long. No, the days when such things were possible
are over.
Personally, I don't care much about video game systems, but I cannot
imagine that Microsoft's XBox will suceed. There are enough gaming machines
out there, and even Sega, who had been in there for long, had to stop
making hardware. It's a good question if under such circumstances our
friends in Redmond should, as a kind of start-up project, enter the market
of video gaming hardware.
And after all, Microsoft definately won't sell the XBox as a Linux-machine.
They have Windows, and it's not yet time to sacrifice Windows. Their
strategy is as follows: In case the Playstation 2 should ever be able to
run Office apps, have something handy that is similar to the PS2 and that
can compete with it! This doesn't have anything to do with Linux.
In the end, it all comes down to the following: Due to the basic rights
each human being has, and due to our nice little GPL, we, as users and
developers or whatever, have the choice which software to run on which
hardware. I know for sure that I will neither run Linux on an XBox, nor
will I run any Microsoft software on my Linux-system. That's my right. I
can use all the free software out there in whatever way I want, and I can
customize my computer the way I want. With Microsoft software, I cannot
really use it the way I want to, but I can at least decide if I want to use
it or not. Everyone out there has the same choice, so if you don't want to
use Microsoft, do as I do and don't use it. Don't worry about any of their
future projects, you simply don't have to use them. I don't think that any
longer Microsoft can make *your* decisions for *you*.
(Note, dear Windows fans, that the last paragraph was not written to insult
you. I only wrote it because numerous folks out there have claimed to be
"dependant on Microsoft", and that Microsoft's goal is to make you depend
on them. I don't see this, because, as I said above, everybody can choose
freely whether or to use not to use MS products.)
Greetings,
Nils
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From: Martigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why do Win advocates suck? Part 1
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:05:45 GMT
Todd wrote:
>
> "Martigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:bIYD6.60652$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > O.k. now that I have your attention,.
> >
> > I have posted a few times here and there, but what amuses me is
> this;
> > Windows trolls complain about how useless, unfriendly, incomprehensable
> > linux is,
>
> I would never say linux is 'useless'.
>
> It *is* hard to learn, and not organized very well.
Hard to learn IF you already have windows in your blood.
>
> > but most linux users have used windows for an extensive amount of
> > time. So after all the bashing of whom has the "lazzy" os I say it is
> > Windows. Can you do "True" OS maintanence in the CLI?
>
> Yes. But why would you want to use the CLI anyway? Funny. A CLI is
> simply
> a text based GUI. The Windows 2000 server resource kit give one almost
> every tool necessary for CLI work anyway... never used it though.
Text based GUI, in Windows maybe. Is it possible to totally leave the
GUI in windows and revert to a CLI?
>
> Just use terminal services for remote admin. Works great.
>
> > Can you get any
> > good documentation with windoze?
>
> Sure. It is fully indexed and very easy to use.
Fully indexed? I disagree, the index is just a glorified text search
engine. Any if you can't find what you need, you are told to goto the
website for more info.
>
> > At least I can type "info rm" and get a
> > FULL DETAILED discription of usage and envocations for the command!
> > Have you tryed "help fdisk" in windoze?
>
> The correct CLI syntax is to put a /? at the end of the command. If you
> want a lot more detailed help, there is always 'help' on the start menu.
> I know that may seem unintuitive to the linux community :)
>
> > Argue as you will but Linux has taken my blood and I shall give
> > my
> energy
> > to the revalotuion.
>
> You may want to get a spell checker someday also :)
Your right, BUT that's the only come back you have? You prolly think
black people from Harlem are stupid too!
>
> > Because people deserve the best! And with Millions of
> > beta testers how can you complain.
> >
> > P.s. Ya Windoze might have better games, but why buy a $1.5K
> piece of
> > silicon to play games when you can buy a PSX2 for $300?
>
> Well, for me, I hate console games so far... they are just not nearly as
> involved as PC games.
> >
> > P.s.s. If windows is so "great" why can it be brought down with
> > a
> > "dumb-ass.txt.vbs"??????
>
> Hmmm... are you talking Windows 2000? I could easily write a C program
> that would trash a Linux installation too unless you are not logged in as
> root (administrator in 2000).
True you do need # ;-)
>
> -Todd
>
>
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's the point
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:07:13 +1200
<snype>
> I moved to a Debian based distro several months ago. The best thing I
> have ever done and I've been using Linux since 1994 starting off with
> SLS from floppies (over 70 before I decided it was time to invest in
> a CD drive). :-)
>
> I have spent a lot of money on Linux apps. I bought accelerated X 1.x
> when my graphics card wasn't supported under XFree. I bought RedHat
> Office Suite (basically applixware) when I wanted a decent desktop
> office suite. This was my first introduction to RedHat (version 5.0)
> and its installation was a breeze. I've since bought several SuSE and
> RedHat distro's, Applixware 5 and Accelerated X 5 (as it handles
> overlays which I need for some X clients that only work on 8bpp
> displays. I'm not ashamed to promote a commercial application
> here. XiG, the developers of Accelerated X, produce an outstanding
> product with the simplest X configuration I have ever used). I will
> buy rather than download any commercial Linux software that I need as
> I want these companies to survive. Not all, and I'm sure most, Debian
> lovers are totally averse to buying commercial software.
>
> We agree that Linux is a far superior piece of software when compared
> to Windows. I think we agree that it is worth paying for good commercial
> Linux software whether it is a Linux distribution or an application.
> Just don't knock those of us that have found Debian (or most especially
> those commercial distro's based on Debian) to be the best Linux distro's
> around.
Correct. I don't mind shelling out several hundred dollars for a good
quality piece of software. As for Linux being opensource. I choose
Linux not because it is opensource, but because it is superior quality.
If Microsoft produced a superior OS, and they could prove it, then I
would go for it, however, I have already been stung one too many times
by the Microsoft hype machine. When XP is released, I am going to wait
at least 6 months to see where Microsoft is going to head. I already
guess what is going to happen, hence, I am not going to be sucked into
the hype.
Matthew Gardiner
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Aaron Kuklis Arrested!
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:13:22 +1200
Todd wrote:
>
> "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > how come you are running Windows 98?
>
> Why not?
Linux advocate running Windows 98. If you talk the talk, walk the walk,
other wise keep ya trap shut.
>
> > how come you posted it using HTML encoding?
>
> HTML rocks over text.
>
> Are you stuck in the dark ages or something?
Have you heard of net-etiquette? by posting in HTML is stops people who
don't have HTML compat. news readers, from reading the post.
Matthew Gardiner
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Who votes for Sliverdick to be executed: AYEs:10 NAYS:0 (1 ABSTAIN)
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 07:14:17 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
> a
> Aaron> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >> >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
> >>
> Aaron> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
> >> >>
> Aaron> Rob Robertson wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Rob Robertson wrote:
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > Henry Glenworthy wrote:
> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> > > > "Rob Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> >> > > > > Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> > > > > "Let's take a nice, Glen "Sliverdick" Yeadon style
>pure-democratic
> >> >> >> > > > > vote:
> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> > > > > All for putting Glen "Sliverdick" Yeadon up against the wall,
>and
> >> >> >> > > > > filling him full of lead, say "AYE!" All opposed, say "NAY"
> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> > > > > Let's see how much Sliverdick likes democracy now."
> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> > > > > > AYES:3
> >> >> >> > > > > > NAYS:0
> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> > > > > ABSTAIN:1
> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> > > > > An example of the dangers of pure democracy is all well and
>good,
> >> >> >> > > > > but I reject pure democracy even if Glen advocates it and
>wouldn't
> >> >> >> > > > > vote either way on the matter; there is no moral justification
>for
> >> >> >> > > > > the action or the mass decision behind it.
> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> > > > >>>>
> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> > > > What!? You don't believe in "one person - one vote", even if
> >> >> >> > > > the result is the trampling of individual rights? Tsk, tsk.
>Shouldn't
> >> >> >> > > > the easily swayed, fickle general public get to determine the fate
> >> >> >> > > > of minorities it has suddenly grown to dislike? Shouldn't people
> >> >> >> > > > who drive while using a cell phone and drinking their Starbuck's
> >> >> >> > > > latte be shot on the spot?
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > Heavens, no! That's just,... it's immoral, first of all, and
>entirely
> >> >> >> > > incommensurate with the actual crime. What if we just firehosed them,
> >> >> >> > > instead?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Should not the murderer be subjected to the loss of his own life?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Therefore, someone (like Sliverdick) who advocates democracy (mob
>rule),
> >> >> >> > should be subjected to mob rule.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I agree completely that Glen should be responsible for his actions, but
> >> >> >> I wanted to point out that since *I* don't believe in mob rule and view
> >> >> >> it as an abdication of moral responsibility, I'm not voting 'aye' -- I'm
> >> >> >> not voting at all on the question.
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> Aaron> I think Sliverdick should be made to serve as an example to all others
> Aaron> who believe in his idiotic shit.
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes, by mocking his views and exposing his lies.
> >> >>
> >> >> Killing him for his ideas, as you advocate, is the
> >> >> act of a totalitarian, which you have often shown
> >> >> signs of.
> >>
> Aaron> Those who seek to enslave others forfeit their right to life.
> >>
> >> If they act on it sure. If they just run off their mouths,
> >> they deserve to be mocked and refuted.
>
> Aaron> Encouraging someone to commit a crime makes you guilty of the crime.
> Aaron> It's called aiding and abetting, and is punishable all the same.
>
> Aaron> Hope that helps.
>
> Encouraging and aiding and abetting are different things.
Conspiracy.
>
> I doubt this will help.
>
> --
> Andrew Hall
> (Now reading Usenet in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh...)
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
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K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Pete Goodwin is in good company
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:15:42 +1200
In New Zealand Dollars it is expensive, however, depending on the tax
rules in
the UK, it might work out quite cheap to buy a copy.
Matthew Gardiner
--
I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Pete Goodwin is in good company
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:17:20 +1200
Pete Goodwin wrote:
>
> Matthew Gardiner wrote:
>
> > Oh, the whole world owes me a living crossed with the, its everyone
> > elses fault except my own syndrom. Very typical in Windows programmers,
> > esp those who have never done real programming, and instead rely on the
> > old point and click application construction.
>
> And not at all a good description of me. Unless you think programming on
> OpenVMS involved point and click?
There is a first for everything :) oh, btw, did you run that memory
test, its has been almost 4 days.
Matthew Gardiner
--
I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 07:22:12 -0400
Ace Agincourt wrote:
>
> Hi Don,
>
> On 21 Apr 2001 01:26:52 GMT,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
> put fingers to keyboard and tapped away writing:
>
> ? On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:11:05 +0100, Ace Agincourt wrote:
> ? > Hi Roberto,
> ?
> ? > Serbia was at war with the Kosovas. Are you claiming that the mass
> ? > murders did not occur.
> ?
> ? They are mass *murders* only if they are war *crimes*, ie they are
> ? unlawful even in the context of war. Are you claiming the mass murders
> ? were not war crimes ?
>
> Should, then, Lord Walworth have been tried for war crimes after he
> murdered Wat Tyler? Who would have intervened in England's private
> affairs?
>
> ?
> ? > Also, Hitler went to war against the Jews.
> ? > Are you a holocaust denier?
> ?
> ? The NAZIs were tried as war *criminals*, meaning their killings were found
> ? to be unlwaful.
>
> Under whose authority? Should Bill Clinton be forced to stand trial
> for his war crimes: the bombing of a Sudanese Pharmaceutical plant and
Yes.
He should also be put on trial for Treason.
And sentanced to hanging by his testicles.
> the associated maimings, and the bombing of an Afghan youth training
> centre and its associated murders?
>
> Best wishes, Ace.
>
> ====================
>
> This story shall the good man teach his son;
> And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
> From this day to the ending of the world.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
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K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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