Linux-Advocacy Digest #789, Volume #33 Sun, 22 Apr 01 20:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Why left-wing communist assholes hate Reagan. (was Re: ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: Windows 2000 Rocks! (Nigel Feltham)
Re: Blame it all on Microsoft ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Windows 2000 Rocks...and falls down. (Nigel Feltham)
Re: Red Hat has become scary? (pip)
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 (Nigel Feltham)
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 (Nigel Feltham)
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 (mlw)
Re: Another story regarding XP and the dreaded Subscription model: (Nigel Feltham)
Re: Exploit devastates WinNT/2K security (dex)
Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop (Bob Hauck)
Re: Buy Microsoft stock!!! (Bob Hauck)
Re: Why do Win advocates suck? Part 1 (Bob Hauck)
Re: What's the point (Dave Martel)
Re: What's the point (Dave Martel)
Re: Linux advocates posting from Windos 98 (what to do with them) (Dave Martel)
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 (Chad Everett)
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 (Chad Everett)
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 19:07:21 -0400
Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
> >>
> >> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> > Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Detesting homosexuality is NOT the same as fear.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Hope that helps.
> >> > >
> >> > > Why do you detest it?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > What's NOT to detest about it?
> >>
> >> Well, let's see.
> >>
> >> Gays use sex much the same way hets do; as a method of recreation,
> >> excercise, sharing, comforting, bonding, play, relaxation, stress
> >> relief, expression of love, to increase closeness and intimacy, and so
> >> on. So one would conclude that if homosexuality is detestable, so is
> >> all sex.
> >
> > And John Wayne Gacy used knives the same way butchers do; as a method of
> > carving up carcasses into single-serving portions of meat.
> >
> > So, your point is?
>
> I might instead ask you what yours is; I'm sure that Gacy, when using
> knives in the same manner butchers do - i.e. for carving up cows, pigs
> and the like for the dinner table - nobody would have any problem with
> him. It's when he decided to do something out of the norm, or, more to
> the point, something inflicting harm to other people, that he became a
> problem.
That harm was inflicted by using knives in the same manner butchers
do....carving up deceased organisms.
>
> So, to follow your argument, we'd have to assume that homosexuality was,
> in fact, so heinously bad that practitioners thereof are on an equal
> footing with serial killers. Since this is the point you haven't yet
> established, your argument seems to fall of its own lack of support.
> Meanwhile, the comparison of the two things which do seem to be related -
> two forms of sexuality - doesn't seem to support your argument either.
>
You're point is sex with one thing is just as good as another.
By that standard, John Wayne Gacy's choice to carve up humans
is no different than carving up a cow.
> Hmm. So my point is? My point is that you haven't got a point,
> apparently.
You are an idiot.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why left-wing communist assholes hate Reagan. (was Re:
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 19:09:35 -0400
Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 19:58:00 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> >> > Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
> >>
> >> >> > What does this have to do with Linux advocacy? Is Linux, an Is
> >> >> > Lamic womans choice of OS?
> >> >>
> >> >> No, of course not; they're not allowed to make such choices. Linux
> >> >> for women's rights! :)
> >> >
> >> > Fuck them. They already have too mancy privileges and not enough
> >> > responsibilities, you simpering, ass-kissing ninny
> >>
> >> more anti-freedom rhetoric from anti-freedom Kulkis.
> >
> > Let's see...
> >
> > What do you call a system where
> >
> > Class A has many burdensome restrictions and many responsibilities bot
> > Class B, and NO privileges,
> >
> > while Class B has unlimited freedoms, no restrictions and zero
> > responsibilites to Class A
> >
> >
> > That is called FEUDALISM, is it not?
> >
> >
> > Now...look at the society which feminism has made for us.
> >
> > Class A above is defined as "men"
> > Class B above is defined as "women"
> >
> > So much for freedom and equality.
> >
> > Any man who supports Feminism is a self-flagellating idiot.
>
> Are you seriously suggesting that the feminist viewpoint is the promotion
> of the ideal that women should have all freedom, no restriction and no
> responsibility?
Are you aware that, according to feminist doctrine, ***ALL*** sex
between men and women (including consensual sex between a husband
and wife) is rape.
If you were unaware of this, then you should open your eyes and
find out what these wacky women are really and truly all about.
>
> Yeesh. You need to get out more. You've been cooped up with Archie
> Bunker too long.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: Nigel Feltham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 Rocks!
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 00:23:42 +0100
> On the issue of GUI's: once you've worked on Mac, you even dare to call
> the X-windows junk that ships with Linux a GUI.
>
You mean the X-windows system that lets you run code on any Unix machine
and display it's output on any computer that has graphics capability - the
2 machines don't even need to be in the same country. Lets see your Mac do
this then.
How do you change the window manager on a mac then - Linux GUI can be made
to look like windows, mac os, nextstep or many other variations to suit the
user or task ( I use KDE for browsing the web - for other tasks I select
other systems depending on my current mood). Why restrict yourself to one
look & feel - what's good for photo editing is not necessarily good for
word-processing, etc.
As to mac GUI compared to Linux GUI's, if this is true then why is the Mac
version of Linux so popular?
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.theory,comp.arch,comp.object
Subject: Re: Blame it all on Microsoft
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 19:11:05 -0400
Paul Repacholi wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > really. Name one piece of microsoft code that didn't originate on
> > Unix or Macintosh.
>
> > Accuracy counts, so be precise.
>
> NT. MICA, but was derived from VMS 3.4 for the Prism.
>
> DOS v1.0
Very good. Now...name one piece of Microsoft code that didn't
originate in ANOTHER company.
>
> --
> Paul Repacholi 1 Crescent Rd.,
> +61 (08) 9257-1001 Kalamunda.
> West Australia 6076
> Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Nigel Feltham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 Rocks...and falls down.
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 00:25:37 +0100
Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> Hullo wrote:
> >
> > It's great.
>
> Whatever, Claire.
>
What do you mean - at least clare took the time to pick random crap off
support newsgroups to fictionalise some linux problem, this person seems to
have a vocabulary limited to under 10 words.
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From: pip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat has become scary?
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 00:16:50 +0100
Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> Phill (me) wrote: .... I'm sticking to books... blah blah blah
> <snype>
> >
> > Aw, its fun tho for awhile to poke some fun at politics. :-)
> >
> > --
> > V
> Its fun until some patriotic fruit cake such as pip take it so seriously
> that their precious nation will be hurt. Fuck, I love criticism, it
> allows a nation to improve, instead of insolating themselves into
> ignorance of what it really happening.
If you hadn't noticed I'm from the UK - so there it is nothing about
being "patriotic" towards the USA. I thought that we had agreed not to
talk politics - but I guess if I am a "patriotic fruit cake" then maybe
I had over-estimated you. Never mind. As for criticism - fire away - the
UK has much to be proud of but equally not proud of. But do us all a
favour and keep off the politics.
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From: Nigel Feltham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 00:36:12 +0100
GreyCloud wrote:
> Jon Johansan wrote:
> >
> > Says good-bye to expensive, hard to manage unix crap too...
> >
> > http://www.vnunet.com/News/1120413
> >
> > Zenon Chomyszyn, technology manager at the Halifax, told Computing that
> > the company's Unix systems are too expensive to maintain, and that he
> > hopes to reduce these costs by installing W2DC, despite a high initial
> > outlay. "The benefits will be the management of the systems and boxes
> > rather than a saving in purchase price," he said.
> >
> > Chomyszyn added that the operating system will increase the
> > availability, reliability and scalability of the bank's databases, and
> > will reduce operational costs by managing a single server rather than
> > thousands.
>
> Guess I'd better get my money out of that bank then.
Doesn't the article state they are replacing 500 out of 3000 servers -
guess they must really trust this new system then - only replacing 1/6 of
the system :-)
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From: Nigel Feltham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 00:47:17 +0100
Chad Myers wrote:
>
> "mmnnoo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:7KHE6.75389$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In article <3ae31a96$0$2383$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Jon Johansan"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > "Wade Blazingame" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:33AE6.6699$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >>
> > >> > http://www.vnunet.com/News/1120413
> > >>
> > >> Not sure what vnunet is, but the fact that it got through a
> > >> 20-paragraph review of Windows XP without a SINGLE MENTION of product
> > >> activation, which has been one of the most hottest issues surrounding
> > >> XP, is a clear tip-off that someone at vnu loves MS.
> > >
> > > You should read more of vnunet - they cover every major OS and are
> > > DEFINATELY no fan of MS.
> > >
> > > However, product activation in XP is ONLY an issue with those that
> > > intend to bootleg it. It is of NO issue whatsoever to those that
> > > purchase legitimate copies.
> > >
> > > I've been working with the beta and it continues to amaze me how many
> > > people have the operation of activation completely and categorically
> > > wrong. I'll repeat: product activation is ONLY a concern to those that
> > > bootleg XP - it means nothing to legitimate users. (small tidbit
> > > pirates already know: enterprise versions of XP come with a "magic"
> > > key that bypasses activation).
> > >
> >
> > Well, it is not a concern to me, but only because I will definitely
> > never buy XP. Firstly, linux meets all my needs other than
> > video games.
>
> So your needs are a mostly unusable OS with half-baked apps and
> a buggy, if not completely broken UI? Cool!
>
NO - he said he'd stopped using windows.
> Poppycock. You've obviously never tried NT or let alone Win2K, so you
> really don't know what your talking about. Win9x sucks, big time. NT
> and 2K are far superior to anything else out there on the market,
> includig previous MS oses. You so realize that NT/2K are of a completely
> different code base and are not the Win16-based crap that Win9x, are,
> right?
>
This makes sense - someone sells you a faulty product so you decide to
replace it then buy a new version of same product from same company.
How many people would buy a second TV for example from a company who sold
you your previous TV which only lasted a year - If someone sells you a
faulty product once why should you trust them to not sell you another
faulty product - Every product MS have ever sold is full of bugs & security
holes, why should I trust them again instead of a product with proven
stability and security like linux or FreeBSD?
> Right, and this is why Win9x sucks. Win2K doesn't have this problem.
>
It still has the same shitty registry and DLL management so can still be
killed by installing the wrong application - why can't installing anything
which needs a newer version of a DLL just install the new file under a new
name instead of replacing the old one and inevitably killing all apps which
rely on using a specific version - unix has had this ability over 20 years
yet MS hasn't innovated this far yet.
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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 19:42:53 -0400
Jon Johansan wrote:
>
> "mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Jon Johansan wrote:
> > >
> > > Says good-bye to expensive, hard to manage unix crap too...
> > >
> > > http://www.vnunet.com/News/1120413
> > >
> > > Zenon Chomyszyn, technology manager at the Halifax, told Computing that
> the
> > > company's Unix systems are too expensive to maintain, and that he hopes
> to
> > > reduce these costs by installing W2DC, despite a high initial outlay.
> > > "The benefits will be the management of the systems and boxes rather
> than a
> > > saving in purchase price," he said.
> > >
> > > Chomyszyn added that the operating system will increase the
> availability,
> > > reliability and scalability of the bank's databases, and will reduce
> > > operational costs by managing a single server rather than thousands.
> >
> > It is a pretty funny article. I will print a copy and wait a year and have
> a
> > good chuckle.
>
> A year from now remind me and I'll show you all the linux failure articles I
> collect. I had to make seperate folders for different months.
Please do.
>
> You act as if this is an isolated or rare incident.
Isolated, no. Rare, as in a bank making a press announcement or doing an
interview about an IT change? The only reason we know it, is because someone
signed a deal that by doing so, reduced the cost.
--
I'm not offering myself as an example; every life evolves by its own laws.
========================
http://www.mohawksoft.com
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From: Nigel Feltham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Another story regarding XP and the dreaded Subscription model:
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 00:51:42 +0100
Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1284000/1284054.stm
>
> Although not incredibly indepth, it does cover the main issues
> concerning customers. I would not be surprised that Microsoft first
> starts off offering gimicks like "online storage" then gradually moves
> from that to "unless you purchase this service you will not be able to
> use your computer". I would not be surprised if it did happen. Well, at
> least when I pay $NZ189 for my copy of SuSE Linux, it is just a one off
> payment.
>
If a company with 100 PC's wants to buy enough copies of SUSE to legally
install it on all their machines it's still the same one-off payment as one
copy can be installed on 100 or even more machines. Think how much it would
cost to legally install even MS's cheapest OS on all 100 machines - one
copy needed for each machine.
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From: dex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Exploit devastates WinNT/2K security
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 23:43:37 GMT
Well, on the plus side there can really be good consulting money in AFS/DFS etc ;)
Greg Copeland wrote:
> Hate to burst your bubble, but SMB is based on IBM's technology. Microsoft
> simply ran with it. Having said that, after you kick IBM and Microsoft,
> I do agree that NFS should of been what they used.
>
> Here's a interesting note. Most people don't realize the NFS tends to scale
> better than SMB on both network resources AND host CPU load. Back in the
> days when SMB was first picked up, most computers couldn't saturate a 10Mb link,
> because the bus was maxed, as was the CPU. These days, it's a different picture.
> In short, for VERY large file servers, NFS, while tends to support a slightly
> lower per-client transfer rate than SMB implementations, tends to support MANY
> more clients on a single host without being CPU bound than do SMB file servers.
>
> Enjoy,
> Greg
>
> Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Roy Culley wrote:
> > >
> > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/8/18370.html
> > >
> > > Here's a snippet:
> > >
> > > "However, if for some reason it's necessary for you to use the many thrilling
> > > features of Windows networking without NTLMv2, then there is absolutely
> > > nothing you can do but pray."
> >
> > Microsoft love re-inventing the wheel over and over again. There was a
> > perfectly adequate file sharing protocol, called NFS which all UNIX's
> > had, from IRIX to Solaris, you were guaranteed that they could
> > inter-operate, but no, Microsoft had to be different, and now they are
> > facing the consequences for their arrogance. Do I have any sorrow for
>
> [snip]
>
> --
> Greg Copeland, Principal Consultant
> Copeland Computer Consulting
> --------------------------------------------------
> PGP/GPG Key at http://www.keyserver.net
> DE5E 6F1D 0B51 6758 A5D7 7DFE D785 A386 BD11 4FCD
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Reply-To: bobh = haucks dot org
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 23:43:49 GMT
On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 12:46:06 -0700, GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Matthew Gardiner wrote:
[NAMBLA]
> > What has a group of sick weirdos have to do with legal sexual relations
> > between two people of the same sex?
> Because they think that your young lad is fair game and also think that
> it should be made legal.
Maybe now would be a good time to point out how many heteros are charged
with child molestation every year. Most of them think your young lass
is fair game and it should be legal. Does that have anything to do with
the discussion, or is it just a diversion?
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: Buy Microsoft stock!!!
Reply-To: bobh = haucks dot org
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 23:43:51 GMT
On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 12:06:44 GMT, Wade Blazingame <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You know, I would think that this "vague explanation" IS THE VERY CRUX OF
> THIS POST - why didn't you post it?
>
> And yes, I too have noticed the inexplicable price difference in Dell
> workstations / PC's when configured with Linnux instead of Windows.
It is not hard to explain. Two reasons:
1. Selling Linux cheaper would make MS unhappy. An unhappy MS is an
unhappy Dell.
2. Because they can.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: Why do Win advocates suck? Part 1
Reply-To: bobh = haucks dot org
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 23:43:56 GMT
On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 12:16:20 GMT, MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't think it is a stretch to claim that many home users run cd-r
> versions of MS office, and any other major brand of software you care
> to mention.
Another advantage of being a Linux user. You can have a full suite of
software, at an affordable price, without having to steal it.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
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From: Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's the point
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 17:34:15 -0600
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:05:47 +1200, Matthew Gardiner
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Dave Martel wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:20:42 +1200, Matthew Gardiner
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >Question is, why use ext2fs
>> >when a better alternative is already available?
>>
>> Because Norton Ghost works with ext2 but not with ReiserFS.
>
>How many use Norton Ghost? Apart from large organisations that
>standardise their desktops to Linux.
Even as a home user I couldn't live without it. Backups can be done to
a CD burner directly from a bootable floppy. If you choose the
complete-drive backup, Ghost will restore your partition layout as
well as the files. I can completely wipe my HD and restore Slackware
from backup in about 8 minutes without having to fuss with
partitioning.
This is _very_ handy for setting up systems for newbies. After getting
their system minimally configured I make up a bootable Ghost CD. If
their explorations kill linux, they just stick the CD in, boot from
it, answer the "are you sure" prompt, and 10 minutes later they have a
completely useable system again.
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From: Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's the point
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 17:34:59 -0600
On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 22:43:49 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
wrote:
>My point was that such things need to be thought of up front. We have
>way too many people running around implementing "cool ideas" without
>thinking them through for five minutes. Particularly with regard to
>security and reliability issues. The current market seems to reward
>this sort of behavior, but it'll cost us in the long run.
Security's my big gripe. Most of the distro's give you a choice of
either an internet-less install or a server install with the works.
What Joe Consumer needs is a home-user install that provides the
basics - web browser, email, ftp client, and news client - and a
tightly pre-configured firewall to go with them.
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From: Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux advocates posting from Windos 98 (what to do with them)
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 17:52:43 -0600
On 22 Apr 2001 15:50:13 -0500, Donn Miller
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Clinton committed treason on such a massive level that he has
>> NOT ONLY all of the inhabitants of North America for the next
>> several decades, but many many other nations as well.
>
>I think Linux advocates who create spin and propaganda that they alter their
>headers when they really are posting from Windows 98 should be hung by their
>testicles.
Aaron has testicles??????
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 22 Apr 2001 18:46:53 -0500
On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 21:44:12 GMT, Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>"mmnnoo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>
>So your needs are a mostly unusable OS with half-baked apps and
>a buggy, if not completely broken UI? Cool!
>
You misread his post. He said he didn't need Windows XP.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 22 Apr 2001 18:48:12 -0500
On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 15:59:45 -0700, GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Chad Myers wrote:
>>
>>
>> Right, and this is why Win9x sucks. Win2K doesn't have this problem.
>>
>> -c
>
>How much does it cost to buy Win2K today???
>
Windows 2K Professional, Windows 2K Server, Windows 2K Enterprise Server,
...you need to be specify of course.
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