Linux-Advocacy Digest #816, Volume #33 Mon, 23 Apr 01 12:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (Chad Everett)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (Chad Everett)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (Chad Everett)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (Roberto
Alsina)
Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop (Chad Everett)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (Roberto
Alsina)
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males (Donovan Rebbechi)
Re: Why left-wing communist assholes hate Reagan. (was Re: Communism,
Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.) (Donovan Rebbechi)
Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop (Roberto Alsina)
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males ("John Jones")
Re: What's the point (Craig Kelley)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 23 Apr 2001 10:26:46 -0500
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 11:08:38 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Roberto Alsina wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:52:26 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Roberto Alsina wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >Roberto Alsina wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 09:34:40 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> >Roberto Alsina wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 01:03:12 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>> >> >> >> >Mathew wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> On Sun, 22 Apr 2001, Gunner© wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > Mathew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> >> > >Slavery;child labour
>> >> >> >> >> > As opposed to a 16 yr old working at Burger King?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> A 16 year old at Burger King, where they can only work part time,is
>> >> >> >> >> hardly comparable to 12-14 hour work days of children as young as 6.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >In some parts of the world, such work is FAR more useful to the child
>> >> >> >> >than any high-end education (when living in a 3rd-world shithole,
>> >> >> >> >lessons on astrophysics are....a luxery. Food on the table is a
>> >> >> >> >necessity. Hope that helps).
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> There's a wide spectrum between no education and astrophysics.
>> >> >> >> And if you work 12 hours a day at a back-breaking job when you are
>> >> >> >> a kid, you don't get any education.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >What good is an education if you have starved to death?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The black-and-whiteness of your mind is amazing.
>> >> >> There is a solution to this: feed the kid at (public) school.
>> >> >> Of course you would believe that kid is stealing your money.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Roberto Alsina
>> >> >
>> >> >Nope, by Aarons logic, some how the staving child is funded by gold from
>> >> >Moscow as to suck in people into this "communist plot" to take over the
>> >> >world whilst using the power of the Democrats, Unions, and other
>> >> >assorted people intertwined into this communist take over of the world.
>> >>
>> >> Here's my guess: Moscow paid unions to make workers vote parties who
>> >> don't see feeding the poor kid as a waste of money (communists!).
>> >>
>> >> So, when the government steals Aaron's money to feed the kid (communists!)
>> >> the kid is being told that good daddy government (communist!) is feeding
>> >> him, thus he is being indoctrined (little communist!).
>> >
>> >What part of "taking money from MY kids to feed YOUR kids is THEFT"
>>
>> What part of that what? And who said they are my kids?
>
>forcibly taking money from MY kids to feed ANY other man's kids is THEFT
>
>>
>> >And Theft is slavery.
>>
>> No, theft is theft.
>
>Taking the fruits of one person's labor, against their will, for the
>benefit of another person is slavery, is it not?
>
>Strangely enough, theft is taking the fruits of one person's labor,
>against their will, for the benefit of another person.
>
>Therefore, theft is slavery.
>
Well, in the United States of America, it's called income tax, social
security tax, medicare tax, etc. etc. Try telling the IRS that they
are slave mongers and you're going to kill them as punishment. I
do think they might have USENET access in prison.......
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
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misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 23 Apr 2001 10:28:46 -0500
On 23 Apr 2001 14:51:37 GMT, Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:49:05 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>taking random, unrelated snippets out of context is not victory.
>
>It is fun. Fun is a small victory.
This is the essence of trying to have a debate with Roberto. He is
not interested in a debate, he's more like a troll that will say
anything to contradict, despite what he really knows or thinks.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 23 Apr 2001 10:31:25 -0500
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 11:03:29 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Roberto Alsina wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:49:05 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >taking random, unrelated snippets out of context is not victory.
>>
>> It is fun. Fun is a small victory.
>
>So, Roberto, have you stopped raping your daughter?
>
His daughter was raped be a raping intruder in his home, but of
course since his daughter's life was not in danger and he believes
all killing is wrong (unless YOUR life is threatened), he gave the
raper some cookies and milk when he was done and sent him on his way.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: 23 Apr 2001 15:54:54 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chad Everett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 23 Apr 2001 14:51:37 GMT, Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:49:05 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>taking random, unrelated snippets out of context is not victory.
>>
>>It is fun. Fun is a small victory.
>
>This is the essence of trying to have a debate with Roberto. He is
>not interested in a debate, he's more like a troll that will say
>anything to contradict, despite what he really knows or thinks.
Chad, that's so unfair. Unless you didn't know Aaron was not referring
to something I wrote.
And anyway: read my posts, you will find a fairly consistent ideology.
Perhaps you will like it, perhaps not, but rest assured, Aaron holds
it as communist (even though I am a capitalist pig).
--
Roberto Alsina
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 23 Apr 2001 10:35:36 -0500
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 01:58:52 +1200, Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> They openly advance the idea of primary-school "education" about homosexuality
>> as a way of indirectly "recruiting" via the mechanism that children interpret
>> it as a suggestion that homosexuality is interchangeable with heterosexuality.
>
>In New Zealand, the Rainbow Youth Group (a gay and lesbian youth group)
>come to talk at High Schools (ages 13 and up) about sexuality and who to
>talk to if you need some guidance, such as a teacher, parent, counselor
>or youth group.
>
>I don't however agree that in-depth teaching of sexuality of any kind
>should happen in primary schools, however, I would agree that children
>are taught to respect people who are different, then once they are more
>mature, aka when they are in High School, then go onto the heavy topics.
>
>Matthew Gardiner
Trouble is, in the US they teach elementary school kids all about homosexuality.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: 23 Apr 2001 15:59:29 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chad Everett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 11:03:29 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Roberto Alsina wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:49:05 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> >taking random, unrelated snippets out of context is not victory.
>>>
>>> It is fun. Fun is a small victory.
>>
>>So, Roberto, have you stopped raping your daughter?
>
>His daughter was raped be a raping intruder in his home, but of
>course since his daughter's life was not in danger and he believes
>all killing is wrong (unless YOUR life is threatened), he gave the
>raper some cookies and milk when he was done and sent him on his way.
Well, shooting at someone that's raping a woman is somewhat dangerous
for the woman, is it not? I would rather hit him in the kidneys with
a blunt object.
Killing a rapist in the act of commiting a rape is not self defense.
It can be a justified murder, though. But self defense? Nah.
I am amazed at how people will misrepresent anything in order to
make a bogus point.
--
Roberto Alsina
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: 23 Apr 2001 15:59:41 GMT
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 08:13:02 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> MH wrote:
>>
>> "jet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> news:9c06um$1o3m$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >
>> > MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> > news:vEFE6.1319$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > >
>> > > > > Any man who supports Feminism is a self-flagellating idiot.
>> > > >
>> > > > Any man who thinks a woman should be paid the same for equal work is a
>> > > self
>> > > > flagellating idiot?
>> > >
>> > > No, just any man who marries one.
>> > >
>> >
>> > Any man who marries a woman who thinks she should get paid the same as a
>> man
>> > for the same work is a self flagellating idiot?
>> >
>> > LOL.
>> >
>> > J
>>
>> Pay is not the issue. I've no problem with women getting equal pay.
>
> But try to find a woman who TRULY does equal work...like coming in early,
> or staying late, as needed.
Your conjecture aside, we were discussing equal pay for equal work.
--
Donovan Rebbechi * http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/ *
elflord at panix dot com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Subject: Re: Why left-wing communist assholes hate Reagan. (was Re:
Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.)
Date: 23 Apr 2001 16:02:18 GMT
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 07:26:48 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>>
>> > Are you aware that, according to feminist doctrine, ***ALL*** sex
>> > between men and women (including consensual sex between a husband
>> > and wife) is rape.
>>
>> Nonsense. It's true that there are feminists this extreme, but it's
>> certainly not true that all feminists are like that. That's sort of
>
> That's their official doctrine now.
More nonsense. To presume that there is one "official doctrine" called
feminism is as silly as to suggest that there is one called conservatism.
My Pat Robertson point still stands.
--
Donovan Rebbechi * http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/ *
elflord at panix dot com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: 23 Apr 2001 16:02:36 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chad Everett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 01:58:52 +1200, Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> They openly advance the idea of primary-school "education" about homosexuality
>>> as a way of indirectly "recruiting" via the mechanism that children interpret
>>> it as a suggestion that homosexuality is interchangeable with heterosexuality.
>>
>>In New Zealand, the Rainbow Youth Group (a gay and lesbian youth group)
>>come to talk at High Schools (ages 13 and up) about sexuality and who to
>>talk to if you need some guidance, such as a teacher, parent, counselor
>>or youth group.
>>
>>I don't however agree that in-depth teaching of sexuality of any kind
>>should happen in primary schools, however, I would agree that children
>>are taught to respect people who are different, then once they are more
>>mature, aka when they are in High School, then go onto the heavy topics.
>>
>>Matthew Gardiner
>
>Trouble is, in the US they teach elementary school kids all about homosexuality.
What's "all about homosexuality"?
Some men like to have sex with men, some women like to have sex with women.
Those men will introduce their penises in the other's orifices.
Those women will orally and/or manually stimulate each other in
the usual areas, perhaps with mechanical help.
What's dangerous about that knowledge?
Or am I missing something in that "all about homosexuality"?
--
Roberto Alsina
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From: "John Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:52:42 GMT
"Bud Frawley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 09:44:01 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis said...
> > Bud Frawley wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 08:13:02 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis said...
> > > > MH wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "jet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > news:9c06um$1o3m$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:vEFE6.1319$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Any man who supports Feminism is a self-flagellating
idiot.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Any man who thinks a woman should be paid the same for equal
work is a
> > > > > > > self
> > > > > > > > flagellating idiot?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No, just any man who marries one.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any man who marries a woman who thinks she should get paid the
same as a
> > > > > man
> > > > > > for the same work is a self flagellating idiot?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > LOL.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > J
> > > > >
> > > > > Pay is not the issue. I've no problem with women getting equal
pay.
> > > >
> > > > But try to find a woman who TRULY does equal work...like coming in
early,
> > > > or staying late, as needed. Or going out of town on a business trip
> > > > on short notice....or transferring half way across the country (or
> > > > even to an office 20 miles farther from her house).
> > > >
> > > > Quite frankly...there are reasons why the STATISTICAL AVERAGE for
> > > > women's pay is so much lower than men...they refuse to go to the
> > > > same lengths that men will to *EARN* it'
> > >
> > > LOL!!!!! I guess you just proved your not a manager! when my cousin
got
> > > promotyed to manager in his company he showed me the pay list! there
was
> > > 2 different pays 1 for men 1 for women! men got paid $13.00 an hour
when
> > > women got paid $9.00 an hour for the same shift! I told him it's not
fair
> > > and they should pay the same so he filed an greavence. they said no
way.
> > > he quit that job in a hurry! I bet they stop laughing when I call feds
on
> > > this one! they offered him mney to keep quiet but I said no way I'm
> > > keepiung quiet! this is gonna hit the papers when I start talking!
> >
> > Men show up for work more reliably.
>
> LOL!!!! ya right! I left out the part when he showed me there time cards
> because I knew you'd bite! the women get there every day ON TIME! when
> somebody's show's up late it's always a man! those are statistics my boy!
>
> >
> > Do you know how much a production work stoppage costs a factory?
> >
> > A hell of more than $4.00/hour.
>
> LOL! like they lower there prices when it stops! you do'nt pay for when
> it stops because the owner is right there! I guess you think he has to
> pay himself when it stops! LOL!!!!!
> >
> > As long as women insist on group rights, then they will suffer
> > group penalties as well.
> >
> >
> > By the way, who put a gun to these women's heads and FORCED them
> > to accept $9.00.
>
> thank's for proving your a complete moron! they either take $9.00 or they
> get fired! that's as bad a holding a gun to there heads if you want to
> support a family!
>
> >
> > It appears that management offered $9.00/hour, and they accepted.
>
> I'm gonna say this one more time so take the beans outa your ears THAT"S
> ALL THE JOB PAYS FOR WOMEN! maybe you should go back to the dumass farm!
>
> >
> > All this displays is that most women are exceptionally poor
> > negotiators.
>
> care to provide a cite? I guess not!
>
> >
> > So of course, they have to get a law passed to protect them, because
> > they are so strong, and equal.
>
> if men were paid less then women they would pass a law so fast it would
> make your head spin!
> >
They already did - It's the Equal Pay Act of 1963. It prohibits paying
people less for the same work becasue of their sex. Tell your cousin about
it.
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From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's the point
Date: 23 Apr 2001 10:06:45 -0600
WJP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 02:40:42 -0600, Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> //snipolla//
> >
> >That's the problem with linux. With all the tools and control it gives
> >you, you have only yourself to blame if someone hacks your system.
> >
> >With Windows you know security is hopeless anyway and don't take it
> >quite so personally when the script kiddies come calling.
> >
> >So, one might say that I prefer to use Windows on my Internet system
> >because it's less secure than linux! :-P
>
> This may be very true, Dave, however, there are programs available that
> will supply immediate protection while using Windows on the internet -
> and, similar to Linux, they are free. I use Zone Alarm, personal
> edition. Right now, I'm averaging about six "port scans" a day (as
> registered by ZA). I have gone to the GRC.com web site and tested my
> network/system and it reports that I'm in "stealth" mode, which provides
> some assurance that I cannot be hacked - within Windows, that is.
>
> I am presently reading the Sams book, "Mastering Linux Security", so I
> hope to have SuSE security measures in place very soon. In the
> meantime, I must rely on Zone Alarm to keep the script kiddies out of my
> machines.
Zone Alarm loads *after* the stack under Windows as well; I don't see
how it buys you anything better than what Linux does. It is better
than "Black Ice", which is an awful "security" product for Winodows,
though.
If you'd like to play around with a program that is MUCH better than
zone alarm, check out portsentry for UNIX:
http://www.psionic.com/abacus/portsentry/
I have mine setup to add hosts to my firewall if they attempt to
access an unavailable port (except for http traffic, which is allowed
regardless -- just to taunt if nothing else).
--
It won't be long before the CPU is a card in a slot on your ATX videoboard
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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