Linux-Advocacy Digest #890, Volume #33 Tue, 24 Apr 01 20:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: MIcrosoft: Words, denial and WTF! (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: Windows 2000 - It is an excellent product (Chad Everett)
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males (Roberto Alsina)
Re: Windows 2000 - It is an excellent product ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: Intel versus Sparc ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: Linux advocates posting from Windos 98 (what to do with them) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) (Roberto Alsina)
Re: Windows 2000 - It is an excellent product (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males (Nomen Nescio)
Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop (Nomen Nescio)
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males (Nomen Nescio)
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males (Roberto Alsina)
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MIcrosoft: Words, denial and WTF!
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 11:29:14 +1200
You show your self off as an even bigger idiot. As I remember
correctly, service packs for Windows 2000 would strictly be
patches/fixes etc. etc., unlike the NT 4 service packs that included not
only patches/fixes but new tools as well. This "minor detail" was
mentioned prior to the release of Windows 2000 when Microsoft change how
they were going to release patches/fixes.
As for you Juvenile comment regarding 810 and xfree, support has been in
Linux since SuSE Linux 7, and might have been also included with
Mandrake 7.2 as well.
So, before you start swing from the chandlers, double check you
comments, or else you will nominate yourself as the newsgroup idiot.
Matthew Gardiner
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> Matthew exposes himself as the idiot he is. In his zeal to "expose" the
> conspiracy of wording, his ignorance of the words "vulnerability" and
> "Service" are shown. Never mind the fact that MS uses the term "hot fix"
> for interim patches (between service packs).
>
> The real reason it's called a "Service pack" is that it often includes new
> features, and not just fixes. For instance, One NT4 service pack included a
> new form of threading called "Fibers" (similar to Posix threads).
>
> All this coming from the guy that thought the i810 GART issues were simply
> "fixed" by a new version of XFree. He doesn't even know much about his OS
> of choice, how can he be making any credible statements about any other OS?
>
> "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Yes, this is another look at the Microsoft machine and the arrogance it
> > displays. First of all, this all MHO, no more, no less, however, most
> > Linux advocates and ex-windows users probably agree with me.
> >
> > Patches, bug fixes, service packs, normal words in the world of
> > computing, no OS are immune to bugs and problems, however, how one word
> > these problems is an interesting topic.
> >
> > Lets look at the SUN, a UNIX power house, they refer to Solaris OS
> > updates and bug fixes, as "patches". Thus telling the public, there have
> > been some errors in the Solaris (or what ever) product, and here are
> > some files to correct the problem, and on top of that, here are some new
> > features. Lotus refers to these files as either fixes or patches, thus
> > going along the same line as SUN for the reasoning, both have taken
> > responsibility for the errors.
> >
> > Now we come to Microsoft, who don't call them "patches" or "fixes", but
> > "service packs", thus avoiding the admittance that maybe in one of their
> > products there is a bug. Talk to a Microsoft rep. and they prefer to
> > call it an "update", as if to say to the customer that it enhances the
> > reliability even more, whilst making sure they don't mention the fact
> > that they (Microsoft) were too sloppy to ensure that there weren't any
> > bugs in the original code.
> >
> > Security alerts are even more hilarious, they are not referred to as
> > "security holes" or "bugs", instead they are called "security
> > vulnerabilities", thus offloading the responsibility for "creating the
> > hole" on the shoulders of hackers/crackers/script kiddies, instead of
> > taking the responsibility themselves for the error.
> >
> > The arrogance goes further than mear words, it heads into their
> > advertising, there customer service, the whole company culture that
> > surrounds Microsoft. You ring up Microsoft because Visual Basic 6 (with
> > latest service packs) doesn't work with Microsoft Office 2000, the first
> > question you get asked it how you are going to pay for the support! I
> > shelled out $350 fucking dollars, why the hell should I shell out even
> > more money to line Bill Gates Pockets? I paid for the software, I want
> > the support that goes with it. Compare that to SUN, I have a copy of
> > SUN Forte Developer 6, I didn't even have a support contract with SUN
> > and they still helped me, so it definitely shows where each companies
> > priorities lye.
> >
> > Office XP, yet another over hyped, under performing suite. The people I
> > know, who kept with Lotus Smart Suite are quite happy about the fact
> > that they aren't on the upgrade tread mill, and the cost of it has
> > stayed constant, and in some cases gone down since the original
> > purchase. Compare what you get for $NZ300, Lotus Smart Suite,
> > w/Database, Browser, Wordprocessor, etc etc, compared to Microsoft's
> > $1300 suite which does the same thing! when are people going to wake up
> > to the hype, its a black hole, sucking users in with the promise of
> > enhanced productivity, however, once sucked in, and have relised that it
> > has not delivered, they dare not tell anyone of their stupid decision,
> > and they stick with Office, even though Corel Wordperfect Suite 2002,
> > Lotus Smart Suite 2000, or StarOffice could have achieved the same feats
> > at 1/10th the price.
> >
> > Matthew Gardiner
> >
> > --
> > Disclaimer:
> >
> > I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
> >
> > If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself
> >
> > Running SuSE Linux 7.1
> >
> > The best of German engineering, now in software form
--
Disclaimer:
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If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself
Running SuSE Linux 7.1
The best of German engineering, now in software form
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 - It is an excellent product
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 24 Apr 2001 18:05:46 -0500
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 17:18:59 -0500, Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Chad Everett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 04:50:14 -0500, Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>> >"Chad Everett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> >> >And how is that any different from opening up Linux to allow normal
>users
>> >to
>> >> >do priviledged activities?
>> >>
>> >> What he suggested is patently WRONG:
>> >>
>> >> Trouble is what you suggested doesn't work worth beans on W2K Pro.
>> >> Why don't you actually try it before you suggest it.
>> >>
>> >> First: Easy CD Creator and NERO both tell you that only Administrator
>> >> can write to CDs on Windows 2000 Pro. Whether I've given users
>> >> permission to load and unload device drivers or not.
>> >
>> >Funny, I'm burning a CD as we speak under a non-administrator account
>using
>> >the method I mentioned using Nero. I don't have EZCD Creator so I can't
>> >test that.
>>
>> You're lying. I also have NERO 5.0. I tried this yesterday. NERO brings
>> up a dialog explicitely telling you that only administrators on Windows
>> 2000 can write to CD/RW drives.
>
>How could you be doing this when you haven't done what I suggested. I know
>you haven't because you had to ask how in another message.
>
>Nero only brings up the message when it cannot start the ASPI device.
>
Please enlighten us and tell us the name and location of the Nero driver
file upon which you adjusted permissions to allow non-administrators
to write to CD/RW drives in W2K.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 19:29:50 -0400
Chad Everett wrote:
>
> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 16:22:19 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Chad Everett wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:13:44 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >how droll.
> >
> >Actually, I did have one girlfriend that looked a lot like Sophia Loren
> >(the 1960's version, when Sophia was still in her 20's).
> >
>
> Which of the 1. through 15. was this?
#14
>
> >> >
> >> >I moved out of my parents house TO ANOTHER STATE at the age of 17.
> >> >
> >>
> >> A court ordered restraining order.
> >
>
> So I got the court orderded restraining order part correct?
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 19:30:14 -0400
Chad Everett wrote:
>
> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 16:22:19 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Chad Everett wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:13:44 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >how droll.
> >
> >Actually, I did have one girlfriend that looked a lot like Sophia Loren
> >(the 1960's version, when Sophia was still in her 20's).
> >
>
> Which of the 1. through 15. was this?
>
#14
> >> >
> >> >I moved out of my parents house TO ANOTHER STATE at the age of 17.
> >> >
> >>
> >> A court ordered restraining order.
> >
>
> So I got the court orderded restraining order part correct?
no
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: 24 Apr 2001 23:35:23 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 19:27:52 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> >Hatred of male-hating sexism =/= hatred of women.
>>
>> You said women are better off when they are not allowed to walk in
>> the street without male company.
>>
>> That's pretty hateful.
>
>So says Roberto, who maintains that it is wrong to kill rapists.
Quotes, please. Yes, I said it is wrong to kill rapists. If they
can be stopped by other means. More humane, less blood to clean
afterwards.
>You really are a sick, SADISTIC fuck, Roberto.
Well, Aaron, you are the one who said he wanted to rape someone,
not me.
>REALLY, REALLY SICK
Well, I'm catching a cold, really.
--
Roberto Alsina
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From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 - It is an excellent product
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 01:24:08 +0200
"Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:bXmF6.14064$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Chad Everett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 04:43:04 -0500, Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > >"Gary Hallock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> In article <GK4F6.9497$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Erik Funkenbusch"
> > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > And how is that any different from opening up Linux to allow normal
> > >> > users to do priviledged activities?
> > >>
> > >> The only priviledged activity that normal users will be allowed to do
> is
> > >> write to the CD. Normal users would still not have the ability to
> load
> > >> and unload drivers. If you have to give out this kind of authority
on
> > >> W2K to allow normal users to write CDs, why not just give everyone
the
> > >> password of administrator and be done with it?
> > >
> > >"Loading" drivers means starting and stopping them, not installing
them.
> > >The users can only start and stop the drivers that the administrator
has
> > >installed, and the admin can deny them access to specific drivers by
> > >disallowing them access in the ACL.
> > >
> >
> > But this doesn't work witht the CD/RW inability to allow
> non-administrators
> > write access to CD/RW devices on W2K. You shouldn't suggest things that
> > don't work.
>
> The article you refernce below is talking about how Win2k is by default.
> I'm talking about adjusting the priviledges of the third party driver that
> is installed to allow burning to cd-r's. They have nothing to do with
each
> other.
Erik, how can I give users access to drivers? You mentioned that you posted
it, but it didn't reached me, could you point me out to where I can find out
how to do this?
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From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Intel versus Sparc
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 01:31:05 +0200
"Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Chad Myers wrote:
> >
> > <Disclaimer: I am not a professional C++ programmer>
> >
> > Have you ever used Visual C++? I know you guys hate Microsoft and all,
but
> > they have a good debugger that tracks memory overwrites. This is
probably
> > a common thing, but if it isn't, it's still pretty cool. It would catch
> > this kind of stuff in one pass.
>
> The Borland debugger caught it perfectly adequately; it just took me
> awhile to realize just what was happening. Actually, the Visual C++
> debugger is pretty good. To get as good, or a little better, you
> have to go to C++ Builder 5 with CodeGuard support compiled in.
>
> Visual C++ does have some serious language compliance problems, I feel.
> But C++ Builder, when you use VCL code, is even worse!!!
>
> Chris
I like VC as a very good text editor, ignoring the language compliance
(anyone know how VS.NET fares in this matter?), it's a very good tool.
I just used a program called ObjectAda, which is a VC clone for Ada, it was
a... learning experiance.
One thing I hope VS.NET will do well is to be able to add more language to
it. I *hated* that debugger.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.singles,soc.men
Subject: Re: Linux advocates posting from Windos 98 (what to do with them)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 19:31:49 -0400
Donn Miller wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> > Wrong. I love women in General.
>
> I find US Army General women to be a little too tough to handle
> sometimes, however...
nah...by that time, they no longer have a need to struggle for
more and more power...
Of course... their body is gone to shit, so they're only good for
the platonic variety. (agape , not eros)
>
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Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: 24 Apr 2001 23:32:26 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 19:25:17 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Roberto Alsina wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:43:31 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Matthew Gardiner wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Roberto Alsina wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 13:02:24 GMT, chrisv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > >"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >>My house has over half a dozen guns, and ammunition for each,
>> >> > >>and I haven't been convinced that I have any "right to kill"
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Says the outed idiot who advocates killing people who lawfully work
>> >> > >toward different social and political goals than he does.
>> >> >
>> >> > Not to mention he is the same guy who believes women are better off
>> >> > in Saudi Arabia, and that ping calls nslookup.
>> >> >
>> >> > He is really a sort of renaissance idiot. Idiot in many fields at the
>> >> > same time. A man who can be idiotic on any subject. A rainbow of
>> >> > idiocy.
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Roberto Alsina
>> >>
>> >> And you forgot the communist conspiracy theory.
>> >>
>> >
>> >Come visit the united states sometime. The communism is right out in the open.
>>
>> Well, seen from here, it's hard to tell a democrat from a republican.
>> The US is so right-wing,
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Translation: not as communist as most countries Roberto knows..
>
>> what you call communists
>
>Do you have another name for those who advocate Marx's philosophy known as
>"Communism"?
Sure. Dozens. I'll start with socialists.
>>in most places are considered moderate left-leaning centrists.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>in very communist places, American's soft-line communists are considered centrists.
And seen from Japan, everyone has too-round eyes.
>Which is like saying 'in the mojave desert, a 105 F (40C) day is considered
>cool and refreshing"
Indeed. Except you are the one standing in the desert. It's all a matter
of perspective.
>Robert has just demonstrated that his baseline of evaluation is the
>political standards of radical Communist countries.
Pfft.
a) My name is not Robert.
b) I am using the following "radical communist countries" as baseline:
France
The UK
Spain
Australia
Canada
Yeah, pinkos, all of'em.
>> Then again, you consider a theocratic monarchy without civil rights
>> "a nice place to live", so I will take your evaluation of political
>> environments with a pinch of salt.
>
>Have *you* lived in Saudi Arabia?
>
>A) yes
>B) NO
No. Have you ever lived in a socialist country?
Or are you saying there are guaranteed civil rights in Saudi Arabia?
Or that it's not a monarchy? Or that it's not theocratic?
If you gonna say I am wrong, you gonna have to say where.
--
Roberto Alsina
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 - It is an excellent product
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 11:39:19 +1200
Hullo wrote:
>
> As far as I know you get a couple of free calls with each product. Like most
> of you I don't find I need to resort to support lines for help, but this
> person does. I am just curious to know what they said about the original
> technical problems described. I don't have great hopes of the poster
> actually being serious enough to
>
> a)Call them
> b)Report honestly
>
Can't be bother, I have already rung up once, switched to 5 different
people, 1 who couldn't speak a word of english, and the last one was
sure what Visual Basic was, gee, what genius's they have work'in a
Microsoft.
Matthew Gardiner
--
Disclaimer:
I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
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From: Nomen Nescio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 01:40:06 +0200 (CEST)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina) wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 18:38:22 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >Hatred of male-hating sexism =/= hatred of women.
> >>
> >> You said women are better off when they are not allowed to walk in
> >> the street without male company.
> >>
> >> That's pretty hateful.
> >
> >Ask a woman who'se been raped while walking home alone at night.
>
> For a self-proclaimed freedom lover, you have a very hard time
> noticing the difference between personal preference and enforced
> restriction.
he has the same problem with microsoft's right to sign contracts and the
consumer's right to choose whatever os they please.
but then that's something he has in common with most of his fellow
socially inept neo maxi zimdweeby compatriots ie linux advocates.
but at least most of them admit to being communists.
though they are equally in denial re: thier gayness.
jackie 'anakin' tokeman
men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth - more than ruin,
more even than death
- bertrand russell
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From: Nomen Nescio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 01:40:06 +0200 (CEST)
"Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> aaron wrote:
> > I don't know about other people, but the repulsive feelings I have about
> > it are pratty damned instinctual...
> >
> > The first time I ever heard of it, (mentioned in a medical textbook) my
> > thought was, OH, GROSS!...
>
> And your point is?
he wants your bum
best,
jackie 'anakin' tokeman, m.d.
men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth - more than ruin,
more even than death
- bertrand russell
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From: Nomen Nescio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 01:40:09 +0200 (CEST)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina) wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 18:39:02 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Roberto Alsina wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 16:45:12 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> >Wrong. I enjoy the company of American women very much.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >However, forming a legal association with one is hazardous
> >> >> >to a man's wealth.
> >> >>
> >> >> Well, forming an association with you can be dangerous for a womans
> >> >> health.
> >> >
> >> >Are you asserting that I have a venereal disease?
> >>
> >> Do you? No, I did not assert that.
> >
> >Then your assertion is false.
>
> Well, if that woman divorces you, and the judge awards her alimony,
> by your definition she "enslaves" you and you are entitled to kill
> her. ^^^^
you misspelled 'not pay'
jackie 'anakin' tokeman
men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth - more than ruin,
more even than death
- bertrand russell
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: 24 Apr 2001 23:42:29 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nomen Nescio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina) wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 18:39:02 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Roberto Alsina wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 16:45:12 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> >Wrong. I enjoy the company of American women very much.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >However, forming a legal association with one is hazardous
>> >> >> >to a man's wealth.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Well, forming an association with you can be dangerous for a womans
>> >> >> health.
>> >> >
>> >> >Are you asserting that I have a venereal disease?
>> >>
>> >> Do you? No, I did not assert that.
>> >
>> >Then your assertion is false.
>>
>> Well, if that woman divorces you, and the judge awards her alimony,
>> by your definition she "enslaves" you and you are entitled to kill
>> her. ^^^^
>
>you misspelled 'not pay'
I know it's hard to believe, but Aaron actually said kill. he has
many times said "enslavers" forfeit their right to live.
See what I mean by dangerous for her health?
--
Roberto Alsina
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