Linux-Advocacy Digest #978, Volume #33 Fri, 27 Apr 01 06:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Blame it all on Microsoft ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Importance, or lack, of Marketshare? (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: Importance, or lack, of Marketshare? (GreyCloud)
Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop (Tomaz Cedilnik)
Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: I Love the BSA (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: Importance, or lack, of Marketshare? (GreyCloud)
Re: Blame it all on Microsoft (Tim Bradshaw)
Re: Aaron Kookis: over 340 posts in 6 days! (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop (Tomaz Cedilnik)
Re: Importance, or lack, of Marketshare? (GreyCloud)
Re: Women's rights and responsibilities. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Why do Win advocates suck? Part 1 (Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?=)
Re: Blame it all on Kulkis, er, Microsoft ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.theory,comp.arch,comp.object
Subject: Re: Blame it all on Microsoft
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 05:27:28 -0400
"James A. Robertson" wrote:
>
> I'm sure that I read that in a fiction thriller - are you sure it's a
> real story?
>
Yes. The CIA intercepted a large high-speed printer. They had the
specs (from the vendor's records) of exactly what machine it was
getting hooked up to, etc.
The printer was then used as a carrier to deliver a virus into the
main machine, said virus then distributing itself throughout the
Iraqi command-and-control net.
> Steve Long wrote:
> >
> > but the Allies did effectively disable the entire network when a virus
> > embedded in a printer (which they arranged to end up in the iraqi military
> > environment) infected their infrastructure.
> >
> > "Phlip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:EE_F6.419$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > >>Huh, IP can seldom cope on a GOOD day. The idea of an IP based network
> > > >>staying up under severe stress is just too funny to be funny.
> > >
> > > During the Gulf War when the US bombed Iraqui "command and control
> > > facilities" they were often going after network servers. They never
> > brought
> > > the net down.
> > >
> > > Staying up during a war is what TCP/IP was >designed< to do.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Phlip [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > ============ http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?PhlIp ============
> > > -- Personally qualified to snub Mensa --
>
> --
> James A. Robertson
> Product Manager (Smalltalk), Cincom
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <Talk Small and Carry a Big Class Library>
--
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Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Importance, or lack, of Marketshare?
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 21:29:10 +1200
mlw wrote:
> MH wrote:
>>
>> "mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >
>> > The Microsoft zealots always quote marketshare at some point, have you
>> noticed?
>> > I started thinking about that, why is it important? Is it important?
>>
>> In a mixed economy it's vitally important.
>> Unless something happened while I napped, I believe this is still a
>> capitlist system.
>> Marketshare == more captial, which in turn means more investment, more
>> investment == more R&D. Which == more products & promotion which == ...
>> circular development and growth, which == more return on investment,
>> which == ...
>
> Not really true. A small slice of a market can be enough to fund a good
> company. Mercedes sells fewer cars than GM, but is seemingly more
> profitable and does more research.
>
> Success or failure of a company is more about how well it manages its
> resources, which market share is only one.
>
A better example would be Rolls Royce, it is a high end, low volume
manufacturer of cars, the still make a tindy profit, not because they sell
their goods at a high price, but because they have diversified into other
areas, such as engines for jets, in the case of the Airbus A340
Matthew Gardiner
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Importance, or lack, of Marketshare?
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 02:30:39 -0700
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9c8uuf$sk2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I complain when products are sold at $1300, for an Office Suite! when
> > Wordperfect suites all my needs, and it is sold at 1/2 the price. You do
> > the math, and work it out. The most I have ever paid for piece of sofware
> > was $900 for Corel Draw 9 for Windows 2000. $800 for Windows 2000 Pro,
> $800
> > for a flaming OS! if that isn't highway robbery, then I don't know what
> is!
> > For $184 I have SuSE Linux 7.1, a complete OS, with applications, support
> > etc. I would also be interested in the number of users who casually let
> > their mates borrow their copy of Office and Windows, because it is clear
> > that not all people have that sort of money, yet I know so many with a
> > "back up version" sitting at their house.
>
> I don't know what the new zealand dollar is compared to the US dollar, but
> can it be that bad? Win2k Pro is only $295 US.
Sorry, but that's way overpriced! Solaris 8 is only $75 for the CD-ROM
set. And it's good for more than just one computer. They also provide
StarOffice 5.2. And then you have to add in the "Wife" constant! (What
is it good for?) Wasn't hard after I got it.
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From: Tomaz Cedilnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.singles,alt.linux,alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:32:20 +0200
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > windows is a pretty cool system. i like it just fine.
>
> You write like a shit gourmet.
>
> Shit 3.1
> Shit 95
> Shit 98
> Shit NT
> Shit 2K
> Shit ME
> Shit CE
>
> How much more shit are you gonna eat, jackie?
You forgot 3.0 and 3.11; there are more NTs, and XP (or something) is
coming to make people even more miserable.
Tom
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 05:33:52 -0400
GreyCloud wrote:
>
> Roberto Alsina wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 21:39:26 -0700, GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >Roberto Alsina wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 11:02:54 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> >Roberto Alsina wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:43:31 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
> > >> >> >Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Roberto Alsina wrote:
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 13:02:24 GMT, chrisv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> >> >> > >"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> >> >> > >
> > >> >> >> > >>My house has over half a dozen guns, and ammunition for each,
> > >> >> >> > >>and I haven't been convinced that I have any "right to kill"
> > >> >> >> > >
> > >> >> >> > >Says the outed idiot who advocates killing people who lawfully work
> > >> >> >> > >toward different social and political goals than he does.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > Not to mention he is the same guy who believes women are better off
> > >> >> >> > in Saudi Arabia, and that ping calls nslookup.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > He is really a sort of renaissance idiot. Idiot in many fields at the
> > >> >> >> > same time. A man who can be idiotic on any subject. A rainbow of
> > >> >> >> > idiocy.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > --
> > >> >> >> > Roberto Alsina
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> And you forgot the communist conspiracy theory.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Come visit the united states sometime. The communism is right out in the
>open.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Well, seen from here, it's hard to tell a democrat from a republican.
> > >> >> The US is so right-wing, what you call communists in most places are
> > >> >
> > >> >Here's a hint, Roberto.
> > >> >
> > >> >Right-wing vs. Left-wing is a false dichotomy. They are BOTH
> > >> >forms of totalitarian socialism.
> > >>
> > >> Are you confessing to be a communist? After all, you advocate
> > >> execution without trial of burglars. That's a pretty right-wingish
> > >> thing to advocate.
> > >
> > >Haven't you ever heard of the "Kill a Burglar Law" of Louisiana??
> >
> > Nope. However, most those laws that are in effect in the US are
> > considered rightist stuff, compared with the penal laws in
> > effect in pretty much every other western democracy.
> >
> > --
> > Roberto Alsina
>
> It the right to defend oneself from crooks that enter your home.
> If you kill a burglar breaking and entering or even stealing you have
> the right to kill them. The crime rate dropped dramatically.
>
Discouraging crime is an outrage to left-wing assholes.
> --
> V
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
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K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I Love the BSA
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 21:35:32 +1200
> I think you need to clarify 'handouts' vs. the truly needy.
> I have several friends that have children in their 40's that are
> disabled due to schizophrenia. One was attending college and was a
> straight A student. Half way thru his 4 year degree he suffered from
> schizophrenia... he started to hear voices that he had absolutely no
> control over. Ruined his start... never had a chance to save or even
> contribute to an insurance policy. Last I heard, he was living in a
> cardboard box behind a major brand store... they complained to the
> police and had him put in jail.
> He's now in prison for an illness that he could not control.
>
Don't you have a health system over there? in New Zealand he would be
admited to a Mental Hospital, then after recieving the appropriate
medication, learnt when/how to take their medication and the person feels
confident, they are then re-introduced into the commmunity, if they are
capable of working, a part-time job will be setup, and the short fall, aka
the difference between the money earn't, and the cost of living, is then
made up by social welfare.
Matthew Gardiner
--
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Importance, or lack, of Marketshare?
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 02:36:23 -0700
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9c8ve5$t0q$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Also take in account that the average salary in New Zealand is $22,000,
> and
> > most people have to prioritise, either by a ligit copy of Windows at $300
> > or pay the rent. Most people would rather pay the rent. Hence Microsoft
> > is the cause of the digital divide. Go into a store, take $300 off the
> > price of the computer and you have the price of the computer without
> > Windows, and in some cases, it could mean the difference of a computer
> > being sold or not.
>
> The OEM does not pay $300 (which I assume to be about $100 US) for Windows.
> They pay about US $45 in most cases.
Gee! That's odd! How come at COSTCO in Seattle that Windows 98SE is $80
to just upgrade?? Mind you that COSTCO is a WHOLESALER!
Your figures don't add up!
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From: Tim Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.theory,comp.arch,comp.object
Subject: Re: Blame it all on Microsoft
Date: 27 Apr 2001 10:38:18 +0100
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> And if it's of such high quality, then why is it used .... NOWHERE...
>
Careful now. Since Windows is used everywhere should we assume it is
high-quality software?
There is no correlation between quality and popularity. Popular
systems merely need to be good at beign popular.
--tim
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Aaron Kookis: over 340 posts in 6 days!
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 21:38:43 +1200
Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> The, Mudshark wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 16:18:47 GMT, chrisv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >Is there anyone else in the world so full of himself, so sure of
>> >himself, so in love with the sound of his own voice, so devoid of a
>> >life that on some days he'll post well over 50 obnoxious,
>> >argumentative messages into a single newsgroup?
>> >
>>
>> Maybe Aaron administers Linux machines. They run so smoothly and
>> efficiently that they require minimal user intervention and he has a
>> lot of time on his hands.
>
> Damn straight
>
>>
>> No, I am not being flippant.
>>
>> Mudshark
>
>
Just to add, Aaron could also do alot of the admin from home, thus, only
needs to come in when it is really necessary.
Matthew Gardiner
--
Disclaimer:
I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself
Running SuSE Linux 7.1
The best of German engineering, now in software form
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From: Tomaz Cedilnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.singles,alt.linux,alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:37:33 +0200
The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
> You forgot 3.11 and WFW. :-)
Isn't it the same?
> Not to mention the Mountain-Sized Dregs of an Operating System.
???
> (And then there's Orifice 97, Orifice2000, Weird 2.0, Weird 6.0,
> Weird97, and Weird2000...)
Orifice xx contains Weird xx. Not sure about older Weirds... Dont forget
about Ex-scale 95, 97, 2000, ...
Tom
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Importance, or lack, of Marketshare?
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 02:39:57 -0700
mlw wrote:
>
> MH wrote:
> >
> > "mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > The Microsoft zealots always quote marketshare at some point, have you
> > noticed?
> > > I started thinking about that, why is it important? Is it important?
> >
> > In a mixed economy it's vitally important.
> > Unless something happened while I napped, I believe this is still a
> > capitlist system.
> > Marketshare == more captial, which in turn means more investment, more
> > investment == more R&D. Which == more products & promotion which == ...
> > circular development and growth, which == more return on investment, which
> > == ...
>
> Not really true. A small slice of a market can be enough to fund a good
> company. Mercedes sells fewer cars than GM, but is seemingly more profitable
> and does more research.
>
> Success or failure of a company is more about how well it manages its
> resources, which market share is only one.
>
> >
> > > I think "why" marketshare is somewhat important, is because you need a
> > > community of users and developers to create the various software. The days
> > > where one could write all that they need are long gone.
> >
> > Market 'share' is an odd term when you ponder it.
> > The market 'slice' that a company has at any given time is a better term for
> > me when talking about a 'market'. If we're talking about some
> > pie-in-the-sky, romantic, Eric Raymond-like-LSD-induced mirage --where life
> > is a bowl of strawberries as long as you divulge the 'source', count me out.
> > Viewing source _is_ cool. Making it a business model is absurdity. Free and
> > open intellectual exchange, as beneficial as it is, doesn't pay the bills.
> > Torvalds is out at Transmeta gobbling 6 figures enabling Bill Gate's
> > visions, such as the new Tablet coming from MS in 2002 which will run on
> > Transmetta's processor. Is Transmeta's internal source or intellectual
> > property open? I think not.
> >
> > I prefer reality with my breakfast.
>
> Reality is an interesting point of view. Bill Gates may be very wealthy, and
> Microsoft may be profitable, but they are not necessarily the best way to go.
> With the wavering economy, open source may start taking bigger chunks out of
> commercial software.
>
Gates' wealth is a variable depending upon the Stock Market. From what
I've read in the Seattle Times, Microsoft is being scrutinized as a
pyramid scheme.
> >
> > > The real issue is how big does that market need to be? How many active
> > > users/developers does it take before a system is self sustaining? Also,
> > does
> > > open source make this number larger or smaller than the equivalent closed
> > > source?
> >
> > The market, under ideal conditions, should be its own determinate.
>
> Pure "capitalism" does not work. Capitalism with social controls is the only
> proven successful path for humans.
>
> --
> I'm not offering myself as an example; every life evolves by its own laws.
> ------------------------
> http://www.mohawksoft.com
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V
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.men
Subject: Re: Women's rights and responsibilities.
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 05:39:03 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
>
> >> And I was under the impression in the cases of questionable
> >> paternity that a DNA sample could be demanded.
>
> Aaron> Nope. Paternity is still judged on English common law: whoever
> Aaron> the mother CLAIMS is the father *IS* the father, until proven
> Aaron> otherwise.
>
> Can you cite a single state that has a law like this?
Common law doesn't have cites, you idiot.
>
> --
> Andrew Hall
> (Now reading Usenet in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh...)
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ICQ # 3056642
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can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why do Win advocates suck? Part 1
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:31:26 +0200
Todd wrote:
>
> Well, if you have the money, get two LCD displays... takes up a lot less
> space than one monitor.
>
> Very nice setup indeed.
>
Can you point me to the vendor who will sell me LCD´s which manage
1800x1350 *each* without costing more than 4000$ each?
Because thats what I´m running right now with SuSE linux.
Meaning each one of them will display more than your toy-setup.
Peter
--
The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably
the day they start making vacuum cleaners" - Ernst Jan Plugge
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Blame it all on Kulkis, er, Microsoft
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 05:43:31 -0400
GreyCloud wrote:
>
> Nick Maclaren wrote:
> >
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > |> > |>
> > |> > |> TCP/IP takes line of configuration,
> > |> > |> and 2 commands to get up and running
> > |> >
> > |> > For those of us who are less familiar with such arcane incantations
> > |> > than you are, please could you post your magically concise single
> > |> > line of configuration and two commands?
> > |>
> > |> in /etc/hosts
> > |> numeric.ip.address.here hostname [alias1 ...]
> > |>
> > |> ifconfig eth0 up address numeric.ip.of.thishost
> > |> route add default numeric.ip.of.gateway
> >
> > That is grounds for being thrown off many or most networks. Most
> > require a specific netmask and often a specific set of DNS servers.
> > There is currently a plague of misconfigured systems with incorrect
> > netmasks.
> >
> > Not to say that that won't always be enough, and will be cleared
> > when you next reboot.
> >
> > You are also assuming that someone else has done a lot of other
> > configuration when setting up the system distribution that you are
> > using, because there are dozens of other aspects that need to be
> > set correctly. Even at the hardware and TCP/IP levels, let alone
> > if you actually want to run any standard clients or daemons.
> >
> > Nice try, but no banana.
> >
>
> So?? Bottom line... everybody is now using TCP/IP. SNA... hehehehe...
> it lost a loooongg time ago!
You mean Silly Nonsense Architecture....it's still being used for
IBM mainframes.
I've had to deal with it a couple of times.
5 fucking huge configuration files FOR EACH REMOTE HOST THAT A MACHINE
WANTS TO TALK TO.
And no address mapping, no...everything is with MAC addresses.
>
> > Regards,
> > Nick Maclaren,
> > University of Cambridge Computing Service,
> > New Museums Site, Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG, England.
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Tel.: +44 1223 334761 Fax: +44 1223 334679
>
> --
> V
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Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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