Linux-Advocacy Digest #87, Volume #34 Tue, 1 May 01 11:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: Baseball (Cray Drygu)
Re: Help: Bought out by MS geeks... (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: bLobbi sanchez: the evil of lesbianism (BrendaLee)
Re: AMD is to Intel as "What OS" is to Windows? (Gregory L. Hansen)
Re: Pete Goodwin is in good company (Neil Cerutti)
Re: Linux has one chance left......... (Darren Winsper)
Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! ("JS PL")
Re: e: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Re: The upgrade (Darren Winsper)
Re: Hey Flatfish (re: KDE 2.1) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Bill Hudson caught LYING again. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Bill Hudson admits that he, Dave Casey, V-man and Redc1c4 are liars. ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: Bill Hudson admits that he, Dave Casey, V-man and Redc1c4 ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Bill Hudson admits that he, Dave Casey, V-man and Redc1c4 are liars. (T. Max
Devlin)
Re: Bill Hudson admits that he, Dave Casey, V-man and Redc1c4 are liars. (T. Max
Devlin)
Re: OEM Windows licenses not transferable to charities (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software (T. Max Devlin)
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Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Baseball
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cray Drygu)
Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 13:32:00 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Quantum Leaper) wrote in
<MkqH6.78617$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Just a quick semantic nitpick here...
>If I wanted too, I could easily install Linux, but it DOESN'T support
>my DVD atleast for movies,
Actually, linux supports your DVD drive just fine. The problem is that the
DVD industry doesn't support linux, and because they felt the need to lock
and encrypt DVD movies, it's actually (technically) impossible for any
third-party Open Source programs to play DVDs. (Witness the DeCSS fiasco.)
Having said that, I believe there *is* a legitimate linux DVD player in the
works... LinDVD, I think it was?
Oh, and this...
>and the selection of games on it suck.
>There is a total of 2 games, out of 12 or more games, available on
>Linux....
Two?
I see Tribes 2, Alpha Centauri, Heavy Metal: FAKK2, MindRover, Rune, Deus
Ex, Soldier of Fortune, Unreal Tournament, Descent 3, Quake 3, Heavy Gear
2, SimCity 3k, Heretic 2, Railroad Tycoon 2, Civ: CTP...
And that's just what Loki's got. (www.lokigames.com)
--
cray [at] org
silverlight [dot]
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help: Bought out by MS geeks...
Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 01:33:05 +1200
MH wrote:
>
> "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9clq65$ech1s$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> kool breeze wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Guys...my company has been bought out by a company dedicated to MS.
>
> Gee, I've got some ocean front in Nevada, real chea ....
>
> Get real.
>
What relivance has your snide comments have to do my original post?
Matthew Gardiner
--
Disclaimer:
I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself
Running SuSE Linux 7.1
The best of German engineering, now in software form
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From: BrendaLee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.singles,soc.support.fat-acceptance,alt.fan.jackie-tokeman,alt.snuh
Subject: Re: bLobbi sanchez: the evil of lesbianism
Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 13:36:50 GMT
Nomen Nescio wrote:
>
> fat smelly hairy lesbian oinked:
> > On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 20:14:56 +0100, "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >I have to say, Jackie, that you do love the cross posts.
> > >
> > >-Ed
> >
> >
> > The sumbitch needs his medicine-he is starting to hallucinate again.
That mirror looms large.
> > Failing that, a bullet between the eyes will be an acceptable
> > substitute for this sissyboy.
Is that so? Duly noted.. Some day you are gonna make a death
threat to the wrong person.
Mark my words.
BrendaLee
>
> i just wanted to see that again.
> jackie 'anakin' tokeman
>
> men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth - more than ruin,
> more even than death
> - bertrand russell
--
BrendaLee
Lady DreamCatcher
====================
http://www.cocreator.com/ehmka/
=====================================
brendalee makes the world better by her presence in it.
~~jackie 'anakin' tokeman~~
when you dance with an angel the angel don't change the angel
changes you
~~jackie 'anakin' tokeman~~
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gregory L. Hansen)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: AMD is to Intel as "What OS" is to Windows?
Date: 1 May 2001 13:45:01 GMT
In article <9cmdap$5nf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Andy Jeffries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> When I wrote an article about this
>> http://www.ratrobot.com/ms/ms.htm
>
>Did you use that awful background to force people to use Lynx?
>
>Couldn't you put some server side code in to only send that out if the
>user-agent is Internet Explorer? :-)
Dang, what did he do with his web page? It just crashed Netscape on me!
--
"'No user-serviceable parts inside.' I'll be the judge of that!"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Neil Cerutti)
Subject: Re: Pete Goodwin is in good company
Date: 1 May 2001 13:55:22 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pete Goodwin posted:
>The only FUD I see posted here is from Linux Advocates. I'm
>posting fact.
A fact can be FUD. It depends on the ratio of true significance
to attributed significance. That you have had problems
configuring your Linux box is fact *and* FUD.
--
Neil Cerutti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
*** Your mining mules have deteriorated from heavy use and cost
$100 each to repair. The total cost is $200. ***
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From: Darren Winsper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux has one chance left.........
Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 15:11:39 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> and it is a slim chance at that.
>
> The tide is changing rapidly and Linux had better get it's act
> together quickly or it runs the risk of being a has been real fast.
>
> While Win2k was very slow out of the starting gate, support and
> interest in this OS has been building steadily for the past year or so
> and in anticipation of XP people are now taking a second look at
> Win2k.
>
> In the DAW world the WDM drivers have reduced the Sound Card latency
> to 2ms or less which allows real time input monitoring including
> effects etc.
Aren't there realtime patches for Linux which can do this sort of thing?
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From: "JS PL" <the_win98box_in_the_corner>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 10:11:32 -0400
Aaron R. Kulkis wrote in message
>> > REQUIRING OEMs to force it on customers in order to maintain
>> > profitability?
>>
>> They don't, usenet kook.
>
>Compaq, Dell, and others testified that they do.
Show me where they testified to that. A quick search has revealed that THIS
was Compaqs testimony:
<paste>
Compaq currently pre-installs Windows 98 on the hard drives of all of its
Presario consumer computers and on some of its computers sold in commercial
(business) settings. In addition to Windows 98, Compaq currently installs
Windows 95, Windows NT, Digital UNIX, and Open VMS, NSK, SCO, IBM, and
Netscape on some computer systems.
Compaq licenses Windows 98 from Microsoft for its consumer computers because
we believe that our consumer customers expect that the new personal
computers they purchase from us or from our competitors will have the latest
and most advanced features and functions. Our customers, however, are not
buying an operating system, a hard drive, memory, or a modem. Many of our
consumer customers do not care to know the constituent components (or even
the components’ brand names). Rather, they are buying an "out of the box"
experience. They want their computers to be simple and easy to use right out
of the box, and they look to the Compaq brand to make that experience a good
one.
If there were sufficient customer demand for a different operating system
for personal computers, Compaq would consider licensing that operating
system. Since 1993, however, Compaq has not consistently loaded any
alternatives to Windows on personal computers it markets to consumers. Our
assessment of consumer preference is that our customers want Windows to be
preinstalled on their computers.
Compaq has been able to license Windows from Microsoft at a reasonable
royalty rate. In fact, on a percentage basis of total cost, the operating
system remains one of the least expensive components of a computer. For a
medium-functionality consumer computer that retails for approximately
$1,500, the operating system (particularly Windows) consists of less than
five percent of that cost. Compaq also constantly pushes Microsoft, as it
does every one of its suppliers, to provide Windows to Compaq at the lowest
possible price, consistent with Compaq’s substantial research and
development efforts, marketing efforts, product contributions and volumes.
</paste>
Sorry that you live outside of the truth.
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Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: e: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 14:13:24 GMT
>>>>> Goddess writes:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>>>> Goddess writes:
>>
Goddess> "jet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news> 9cbajs$3f9u$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> >> > > > >Barbie dolls didn't stop me.
>>
>> >> > > > Personally, I wonder who the dumbass was who programmed in the
>> >> > > > "Math is haaaaaaard" into them at one point.
>>
>> >> > > I don't see the problem with that. So what if math is hard? It
Goddess> was hard
>> >> > > for me at times. I think taking that away sends a worse message:
Goddess> girls
>> >> > > can't do or shouldn't attempt hard things.
>>
Goddess> I can agree with that. Most of my friends (boys AND girls)
Goddess> found math hard.
Goddess> I didn't though. I did help them with their homework. But
Goddess> yes, math, for
Goddess> most people is indeed hard. My husband teaches math and he
Goddess> knows that most
Goddess> find it very hard. Some work at it even if it's hard to do
Goddess> and most don't,
Goddess> even boys.
>> I think that is because they are told it is hard. It is a cultural
>> message. But it is no harder than any other subject.
Goddess> Do you truly believe that? I don't. First of all, I don't believe that
ALL
Absolutely.
Goddess> people are told that Math is hard. Secondly, I don't believe that for
The myth that math is hard is deeply embedded in our culture.
Goddess> everyone, Math IS no harder than any other subject.
I did not say "for everyone". Certainly some are better at math
than English, and others are better at English than math. But overall,
no real academic subject is harder than any other.
Goddess> Personally, I believe that individuals find different areas of study easy
or
Goddess> hard depending on the way their own minds work AND their interests and the
Goddess> encouragement they receive. From what I've seen, Math is one of those
areas
Agreed. You are taking my point a lot further than I intended. Sorry
for my brevity. It is a pet peeve with me, this "math is hard" myth.
Goddess> that you either *get* or you don't get. Sorta like being able to draw or
Goddess> make music; some of us can do some of those things and some of us can't no
Goddess> matter how hard we try. I cannot draw. Even a 5 year old draws better
than
Goddess> I do. I'm not about to try to be an artist. :-)
But I firmly believe that a lot of people think math is hard because
they were told so, and that it is a self fulfilling myth. This bothers
me, because math is the language and medium of science, and science is
important.
--
Andrew Hall
(Now reading Usenet in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh...)
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From: Darren Winsper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The upgrade
Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 15:14:48 +0100
Pete Goodwin wrote:
> I upgraded my 400MHz Pentium PII to a VIA system with an AMD Duron 850MHz.
>
> Windows 98 SE reinstalled everything and had to reboot a few times to
> complete the change over. It also sometimes crashes on shutdown.
>
> Linux SuSE 7.1 just... worked. Hey!
It was the same here with Debian, similar upgrade too. However, I had
W2K on at the time and it wouldn't even boot. It seems W2K didn't like
the fact that the IDE interface had changed so it just blue-screened
almost immediately.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Hey Flatfish (re: KDE 2.1)
Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 14:18:21 GMT
Haven't tried it yet because I am waiting for the monitor on that
system to come back from the repair shop.
I will keep you posted and thanks for the suggestions.
Flatfish
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 23:42:30 -0400, Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>So, did you try turning off the sound daemon in KDE 2.1? When I did
>this, it made a very big difference in performance for me. Basically,
>you could try disabling all the services/daemons you don't need, and it
>should give you some improvement. I didn't really see too much usage
>for KDE sounds anyways.
>
>Just wondering if you tried this...
>
>
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Bill Hudson caught LYING again.
Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 10:20:28 -0400
billh wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>
> > You said you don't wear a uniform, LIAR.
>
> Your proof? You are best advised to ensure whether I did or not when I
> posted, wannabe. You're just too easy, "war-hero".
What's wrong, Bill?
Can't remember all the lies you've told....
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
us.military.army,soc.singles,soc.men,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.military.folklore,misc.survivalism
Subject: Re: Bill Hudson admits that he, Dave Casey, V-man and Redc1c4 are liars.
Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 10:20:50 -0400
billh wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>
> > Are you seriously claiming that the F-111 is not a bomber and electronic
> > warfare platform?
>
> And do you still claim class 2 supplies are food, wannabe? LOL!!!
Never did, shit-head.
Food is Class I.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles,soc.men,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Bill Hudson admits that he, Dave Casey, V-man and Redc1c4
Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 10:21:35 -0400
billh wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>
> > > > That which supports strategic goals as opposed to tactical goals.
> > >
> > > LOL!!! You've out done yourself, wannabe.
> >
> >
> > Then, Bill, I'm sure you can provide us with a better concise
> > definition of "strategic," right, asshole.
>
> I can give you the proper definition. Something you've failed at yet again.
> Tell us, KuKuNut, do you even know where to get the proper definition?
> Please tell us your source.
You do realize that the "proper definition" of strategic gets changed
every time TRADOC comes up with a new doctrine.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 14:28:37 GMT
Said Aaron R. Kulkis in alt.destroy.microsoft on Mon, 30 Apr 2001
>"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
>>
>> Said Aaron R. Kulkis in alt.destroy.microsoft on Mon, 30 Apr 2001
>> >"Joseph T. Adams" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> :>
>> >> :>Who would you trust first, Max, Joseph, or me?
>> >>
>> >> : False premise. I don't trust either of you.
>> >>
>> >> Gee, I'm both shocked, and disappointed.
>> >
>> >Geeeee, and I'm a representative of the very same GOVERNMENT into which
>> >Mr. Devlin puts all of his trust and hope.
>>
>> No, you're not. You're a low-level employee, one step up from the
>> grunts.
>
>Yes...In fact I'm part of the same machinery that would ACTUALLY ENFORCE
Now you're 'machinery', as well as an 'agent' and a 'representative'.
My, you are pretentious, aren't you?
>the sort of "civilian disarmament" laws that you argue for.
Huh? When have you ever heard me argue for gun control?
>Do you REALLY want people like me coming in and searching your house
>for contraband?
That would be the police, not the army, nimrod.
>Be careful what you ask for...you just might get it.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
us.military.army,alt.destroy.microsoft,soc.singles,soc.ment,alt.military.folklore,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Bill Hudson admits that he, Dave Casey, V-man and Redc1c4 are liars.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 14:28:38 GMT
Said rifleman1 in alt.destroy.microsoft on Mon, 30 Apr 2001 22:40:26
>> > So your clearly erroneous claim that the C-130 is a strategic platform
>> > is now joined by your contention that tanks are construction vehicles?
>> >
>>
>Define this please, Is the ground support version not a strat platform , I
>call a bird loaded with miniguns , greade launchers and chain guns quite
>aowerful asset ( called pufff the magic dragon I think)
That would be a *tactical* platform, not a strategic one.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
us.military.army,alt.destroy.microsoft,soc.singles,soc.ment,alt.military.folklore,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Bill Hudson admits that he, Dave Casey, V-man and Redc1c4 are liars.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 14:28:40 GMT
Said Aaron R. Kulkis in alt.destroy.microsoft on Mon, 30 Apr 2001
>rifleman1 wrote:
>>
>> > >
>> > > So your clearly erroneous claim that the C-130 is a strategic platform
>> > > is now joined by your contention that tanks are construction vehicles?
>
>The point, Bill Hudson, is that tanks WERE USED AS "earth movers" because
>that's what the situation called for...REGARDLESS of what the guys at
>TACOM headquarters in Warren Michigan, or the various tank plants around
>Detroit thought.
My point (not Bill Hudson's) was, Aaron, that REGARDLESS of this
occurrence, a tank is not a construction vehicle, and a C-130 is not a
strategic platform, it is a tactical platform.
>A weapon's usefulness is defined NOT by a field manual, nor TRADOC;
>A weapon's usefulness is defined by whatever the crews and their
>commanders are willing AND ABLE to do with it.
No, but a weapon expert's knowledge of the weapon starts there, and you
haven't gotten that far yet, which was Bill Hudson's point.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: OEM Windows licenses not transferable to charities
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 14:28:41 GMT
Said Erik Funkenbusch in alt.destroy.microsoft on Mon, 30 Apr 2001
>"Craig Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> > To my knowledge (and my OEM license doesn't say so) MS does NOT void the
>> > liscense if you give a machine to charity. Just because someone writes
>it
>> > on a web site doesn't mean it's true.
>>
>> It's slimy regardless because you can't use that license in another
>> computer at all. Microsoft is basically saying:
>>
>> "You must by a new copy of Windows every time you buy a new machine,
>> even if you are going to 'retire' your current machine and use the
>> same version of Windows on the new one."
>
>It's not slimy at all.
Bwah-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.
>MS licenses WIndows at a greatly reduced cost to
>OEM's for two major reasons:
Yea, "reduced" from "enough to put you out of business".
>1) OEM's take on most support issues.
>2) Licenses are non-transferable.
>
>If they were to remove the non-transferable clause, the cost would likely
>have to go up since MS wouldn't be able to make as much money on a license.
What the funkenbusch does the transferability of the EULA have to do
with the OEM license? It's not even a "non-transferable" clause; even
the name is smokescreen. A license you buy for a product isn't
"transferred" if you continue to use it.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.int-property
Subject: Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 14:28:42 GMT
Said Jay Maynard in comp.os.linux.advocacy on 30 Apr 2001 23:55:32 GMT;
>On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:06:56 GMT, T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>>but the fact remains that the root abstraction of copyright is whether
>>the author is getting paid, not whether someone is making copies.
>>So, yes, the kind of applications of copyright the FSF advocates, still
>>untested, ARE in violation of your metaphysical concept of copyright.
>>But because the FACT of copyright law is as I suggest,
>
>I just floated your premise past a practicing copyright attorney. It seems
>your understanding of copyright law is as flawed as your understanding of
>programming. The fundamental of copyright is nothing more and nothing less
>than restrictions on the right to make copies. This is straight from 18 USC
>106(1):
>
>Subject to sections 107 through 119, the owner of copyright under this title
>has the exlcusive rights to do and authorize any of the following: (1) to
>reproduce the copyrighted work in copies or phonorecords....
>
>So, the plain language of the statute proves you wrong, once again. Your
>effort to redefine "copyright" is doomed to the same failure, and for the
>same reasons, as the FSF's effort to redefine "free".
I don't understand what you're talking about; you must be entirely
clueless. You need to go check with a Constitutional lawyer; perhaps
they won't be so blinded by their acceptance of text as metaphysical
ethics.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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