Linux-Advocacy Digest #139, Volume #34 Thu, 3 May 01 01:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: Is StarOffice 5.2 "compatible" w/MS Office 97/2000? (Matt McLeod)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (Walter
Daniels)
Re: Linux has one chance left......... (carl@cx)
article on Windows 2002 ("Glitch")
Re: Is StarOffice 5.2 "compatible" w/MS Office 97/2000? (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! ("JS PL")
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (silverback)
Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop (Chris Belway)
Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop (Chris Belway)
Re: "Portability is for Canoes" ("pookoopookoo")
Re: Linux has one chance left......... ("pookoopookoo")
Re: Linux has one chance left......... ("pookoopookoo")
Re: XWindows loading on startup ("Mart van de Wege")
Re: Linux has one chance left......... ("pookoopookoo")
women who pick criminals for mates are undesirable mates (Steve Chaney)
Re: What is 99 percent of copyright law? was Re: Richard Stallman (GreyCloud)
Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matt McLeod)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.advocacy,alt.solaris.x86,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: Is StarOffice 5.2 "compatible" w/MS Office 97/2000?
Date: 3 May 2001 13:10:35 +1000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bill Vermillion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <9cpcp1$i54$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matt McLeod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bill Vermillion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Scott Nolan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>So name any word processor that truely gives us WYSIWYG...
>>>
>>>Does FrameMaker count?
>
>>No, because it's not a word processor. But quite frankly
>>"word processor" and "truely gives us WYSIWYG" should be
>>mutually exclusive anyway: a word processor is for processing
>>words, not for doing pretty layouts.
>
>But it certainly does make pretty documents with multi-media links
>in it as many of the 'word-processors' do. Where would that fit
>because it surely isn't an editor. Considering it doesn't even
>seem to mind 1000 page documents - on the presentation I saw - what
>is it exactly.
DTP, specialising in technical documentation.
And IME you do *not* want to create a 1,000 page document in a
single file with Frame. It's fine if you break it down into
much smaller chapters or sections and use the book management
stuff to bring it all together, but like anything else handling
page-layout it gets awful sluggish if you overload it.
As it happens I use Frame most days, and in the same sort of role
where others might use Word -- it's our standard tool for doing
documentation. It's certainly much better at basic word-processing
than Word is, *and* it's better at layout, but that does not make
it a word-processor.
It is also less frustrating to work with for WP tasks than
StarWriter, which is rather irritating.
(What would I consider to be a good word processor? WordPerfect 5.x
on DOS or VMS or whatever -- just not the GUI versions, which sucked.)
--
"Awooga! Awooga! Someone put my clothes back on!"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Walter Daniels)
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 03:12:02 GMT
On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:16:46 -0500, Kurt Lochner
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Fraud Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> again twisted the meaning of:
>> silverback wrote:
>> >Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > silverback wrote:
>> <etc,... snip>
>> > >> wrong again liar. Fascism is corporate rule. The Nazis allowed the
>> > >> corporations to write the laws.
>> > >So, then, you agree that it's bad to let the Sierra Club and similar
>> > >groups write environmental law, and that it's a bad idea to let
>> > >those with a vested interest in the welfare bureacracy to write
>> > >welfare laws.
>> > nope, the Sierra club is hardly a corporation buttfuck.
>> From http://outingleaders.sierraclub.org:8082/Common/ins_manual/index.asp;
>> [...]
>> The Sierra Club, which includes the chapters, groups, and sections,
>> is considered one corporation under California corporation law.
><sigh> I let the disengneuous fraud out of my kill-file, and he's
>still trying to misrepresent even the simplest of concepts as some
>kind of defense for his intentional ignorance..
Tell me. Where exactly does the "Sierra Club," get a major portion
of its funding? IIRC, it hasn't been "individual contributions," for
some years. It gets most, from "foundations," and "eco programs." NOw,
if most of their "funds," come from "special interests," who do they
really answer to? They do not have an "endowment" to fund their
operation, which means they have to "sell" something. In the case of
the "Sierra Club," it is "environmental causes." Since the vast
majority of "foundations" are liberal, democratic in outlook, they
must figure that the "SC" is doing what they like.
When you factor in the history of _how_ they "protect the
environment," it's pretty obvious who they really are. Someone who
would "protect the environment into destruction." To themn, like most
"enviro extremists," it is "set it aside for the smallest number who
can afford to use it." What's that, it's elitism? Damn straight it is.
Make me pay for it, but then tell me I can't use it, because I'm not
"special" enough.
>--What part of "not-for-profit" do you not yet comprehend, Fraud?
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From: carl@cx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux has one chance left.........
Date: 2 May 2001 19:39:16 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
>
>It should be a matter of clicking on an icon and changing between the
>various dpi.
I think anything to do with X server configuration is really hard on
linux. if it was easy, we would have a easy to use GUI interface
to click couple of buttons and be done with it (like the Display
panel on windows).
The reason no one has been to do this on linux, means only it is
very hard, but someone will be able to do it one day.
I think using xconfigure and all those like it, are just too low
level for the users (I have no idea what frequency my monitor runs
at, or how many MBytes my graphics card has). On windows, I never
have to know these things , and my display and the fonts and the
whole desktop looks much nicer on windows than linux.
But I still think this is just a matter of time. We need true type
fonts that come preinstalled and the user should not have to do
anything. Just like on windows.
may be next version of X will solve these issues? anyone knows?
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From: "Glitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: article on Windows 2002
Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 23:28:53 -0400
http://www.msnbc.com/news/567993.asp
Is it just me or does Microsoft have trouble figuring out a consisten
naming scheme for their operating systems?
I think they have an identity crisis or something. I wish it would stop
whatever it is.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.advocacy,alt.solaris.x86,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: Is StarOffice 5.2 "compatible" w/MS Office 97/2000?
Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 03:24:30 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Edward K Dodge
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on 02 May 2001 13:17:32 -0700
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>"pookoopookoo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> > You've obviously not used vi (note it's lower case, not VI). Agreed, vi
>> is
>> > a bitch no learn, but once grokked, it is a truely powerful editor. No
>> doubt
>> > the same could be said for emacs - but as I don't use it, I can't comment.
>>
>> No matter how powerful it is, all it does is edit text. That's not what the
>> average user wants. They want nice printed output, with reasonable color
>> correction and WYSIWYG formatting. Maybe a few nice templates. Most
>> important is a nice GUI and WYSIWIG.
>>
>> > UNIX does have GUI email clients too, ya know. Probably got there before
>> > Windoze, too.
>>
>> Probably, but grandmas all over the world kind of missed the boat. Now
>> they're in the Microsoft / Apple camp.
>>
>
>What would gramndma want with UNIX? It's a developer/programmer's OS.
The same thing she might want with any OS -- send and receive
letters, pictures, videos perhaps. Write and save her recipes.
Financial statements. Records. Web browsing. Instant
Messaging or IRC. Maybe CD music, maybe streaming. In
the future, she might even watch TV if everyone's bandwidth
goes through the Internet instead of cable or rabbit ears.
All through a point-and-click interface.
It may not matter whether she's using Windows or Linux, as long
as she can do what she wants, just like anyone else. Linux can
easily be set up to log in through xdm and then fire up
an application -- possibly Netscape with applets, possibly
xconqueror, possibly a "control panel" -- as the only client.
Does Linux have the tools? I think it has almost all of them.
(I could see cable companies or phone companies selling package
deals easily enough, though -- complete with in-house installation.
However, some of them have packaging issues -- I don't know how
easy it is to create a video directly from a digital video camera,
for instance.)
Note that Microsoft is already in the set-top box market with UltimateTV,
and may be attempting to compete with Tivo. However, this
is a slightly different beastie AFAIK.
I'd have to look to see if someone can bypass the login step
and still use xdm -- one can of course also set up an account
and have init fire off a script that does:
su - blankaccount
and blankaccount's shell fires up X (startx), which fires up whatever's
needed. If the script exits, init will restart it (unless
it gets respawned too many times for init's liking for some reason,
in which case she'll have to wait 5 minutes). Note that blankaccount
needn't have a valid password.
Or one can simply instruct grandma to type in her user name --
"grandma", perhaps -- and a blank password or something -- there
are some issues if she's using a DSL line, which is "always on" -- and
then go through the standard login sequence.
[.sigsnip]
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From: "JS PL" <the_win98box_in_the_corner>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 23:26:29 -0400
T. Max Devlin wrote in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Said JS PL in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed, 2 May 2001 10:50:53 -0400;
>>Aaron R. Kulkis wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>>>Daniel Johnson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>>> > Said JS PL in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue, 1 May 2001
10:11:32 -0400;
>>>> > >Since 1993, however, Compaq has not consistently loaded any
>>>> > >alternatives to Windows on personal computers it markets to
consumers.
>>>> Our
>>>> > >assessment of consumer preference is that our customers want Windows
>>to
>>>> be
>>>> > >preinstalled on their computers.
>>>> >
>>>> > I don't think you understand how damning such testimony is to
>>>> > Microsoft's case, JS PL.
>>>>
>>>> I don't understand, that's for sure. Sure seems like this Compaq
>>>> testimony backs up what us MS-shills are saying: People aren't
>>>> being "forced" to accept Windows; companies like Compaq
>>>> are giving them what they want.
>>>
>>>Then how come, if I call up Compaq, and ask for a desktop machine
>>>with Linux pre-installed, the REFUSE to sell it to me, and when
>>>it comes to servers, fi I ask for Linux pre-installed, they will
>>>NOT give me a rebate on the Mafia$oft licenses which I am not
>>>going to use.
>>
>>Because no one has the inherint "right" to buy whatever they want.
>
>Yes we do. We live in a free country; we have the right to buy whatever
>we want.
I'm sorry kook. Your wrong. You have the right to buy whatever someone would
like to sell. That's all. You don't have the right to buy whatever you want,
that would be the *opposite* of a free country.
>There is no reason (save illegal actions known as
>'monopolization') that a producer would not then attempt to profit by
>selling us whatever we want.
>
>>It's the same reason
>>you can't walk into McDonalds and demand a pizza.
>
>You're saying McDonalds doesn't want to sell pizza for some reason other
>than that they can't make enough money from it to show a profit?
No. Their reasons for not selling pizza do not matter. The fact remains that
you have no right whatsoever to go into McDonalds and buy wahtever you want,
including demanding a pizza.
> I don't know of any honest businessman who would turn down honest profit
>on principle.
Not relevant.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (silverback)
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 01:47:53 GMT
On Thu, 03 May 2001 03:12:02 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Walter
Daniels) wrote:
>On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:16:46 -0500, Kurt Lochner
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Fraud Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> again twisted the meaning of:
>>> silverback wrote:
>>> >Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> > > silverback wrote:
>>> <etc,... snip>
>>> > >> wrong again liar. Fascism is corporate rule. The Nazis allowed the
>>> > >> corporations to write the laws.
>>> > >So, then, you agree that it's bad to let the Sierra Club and similar
>>> > >groups write environmental law, and that it's a bad idea to let
>>> > >those with a vested interest in the welfare bureacracy to write
>>> > >welfare laws.
>>> > nope, the Sierra club is hardly a corporation buttfuck.
>>> From http://outingleaders.sierraclub.org:8082/Common/ins_manual/index.asp;
>>> [...]
>>> The Sierra Club, which includes the chapters, groups, and sections,
>>> is considered one corporation under California corporation law.
>><sigh> I let the disengneuous fraud out of my kill-file, and he's
>>still trying to misrepresent even the simplest of concepts as some
>>kind of defense for his intentional ignorance..
>
> Tell me. Where exactly does the "Sierra Club," get a major portion
>of its funding? IIRC, it hasn't been "individual contributions," for
>some years. It gets most, from "foundations," and "eco programs." NOw,
>if most of their "funds," come from "special interests," who do they
>really answer to? They do not have an "endowment" to fund their
>operation, which means they have to "sell" something. In the case of
>the "Sierra Club," it is "environmental causes." Since the vast
>majority of "foundations" are liberal, democratic in outlook, they
wrong fuckhead most foundations are hard right and fascists.
>must figure that the "SC" is doing what they like.
>
> When you factor in the history of _how_ they "protect the
>environment," it's pretty obvious who they really are. Someone who
>would "protect the environment into destruction." To themn, like most
>"enviro extremists," it is "set it aside for the smallest number who
>can afford to use it." What's that, it's elitism? Damn straight it is.
>Make me pay for it, but then tell me I can't use it, because I'm not
>"special" enough.
>
>>--What part of "not-for-profit" do you not yet comprehend, Fraud?
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Belway)
Crossposted-To: soc.singles,seattle.gay.news,soc.men,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: 3 May 2001 04:03:13 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Belway)
Ray Fischer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> Chad Everett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Go back and read the posts. One of the original questions posed was
>>(I'm paraphrasing) "why be concerned about what people do in their
>>private lives". That's not what I worry about. I am concerned
>>about the homosexual political lobby that wants to eliminate freedom
>>of speech and freedom of religion.
>
> Propaganda 101: Demonization. "They" want to eliminate freedom.
>
Ray, did you know that if you go to Japan or any Asian country, _they_
could take a televison and turn it into a watch?
did you know that, Ray?
WELL?
> You're a bigot.
You are gay, Ray.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Belway)
Crossposted-To: soc.singles,seattle.gay.news,soc.men,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: 3 May 2001 04:04:56 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Belway)
Matthew Gardiner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
>>> Well, a few posts back some one commented on the issue at hand then
>>> Jackie replied saying that that person wrote like a homosexual, and the
>>> debate went from there.
>>
>> so you're gay right?
>> jackie 'anakin' tokeman
> yes I am rather happy.
>
Matthew, how long have you been happy about your homosexuality?
WELL?
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From: "pookoopookoo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: "Portability is for Canoes"
Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 00:10:43 -0400
> Or you can have Java which gives you neither portability nor speed!
Hey that smarts...Java was a great idea. <dreamy look> oh what could've
been...
Too bad it wasn't open source.
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From: "pookoopookoo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux has one chance left.........
Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 00:13:55 -0400
> So you agree then I assume
hehe, I guess so. =)
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From: "pookoopookoo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux has one chance left.........
Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 00:15:46 -0400
> Translation: He's never used Gimp. He read about it once, but he became
> very afraid when he saw the work "filter".
Of course I've used it you silly man! I just didn't particularly like it =)
I don't like the fact that you can't make HUGE brushes (like 200 pixels).
But anyway, the fact of the matter is that Photopaint and Corel Draw is
available so my entire line of arguments just crumbled =) hehe, apart from
the wine emulation bit.
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From: "Mart van de Wege" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: XWindows loading on startup
Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 06:14:30 +0200
In article <9cq2vi$t2s$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> I don't think you want to do that, unless you're really short of disk
> space.
>
> The best option is to (as root) etic /etc/inittab and change the
> runlevel to 3, instead of 5. The file is sually very well commented and
> it has a good man page as well.
>
> -Ed
>
>
Sorry Ed, won't work on Debian. See my answer to GreyCloud below for the
reason why.
Mart
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From: "pookoopookoo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux has one chance left.........
Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 00:16:38 -0400
> > Sadly Windows is NOT a real time OS.
>
> True.
But...I have a buddy in computer engineering at McGill university, and he
said it was...what is the difference between a real-time system and a
non-realtime one?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Chaney)
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: women who pick criminals for mates are undesirable mates
Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 04:24:14 GMT
On Tue, 01 May 2001 02:32:14 GMT, "Deborah Terreson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>----------
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Nomen Nescio
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>> who is more likely to be a total failure with women?:
>>
>> a. a drug dealer
>> b. a dumb jock
>> c. a jerk
>> d. a criminal
>> e. a computer nerd
>
>
>Damn, that's cold!
Any woman who picks a criminal over a nerd is definitely a suicidal
headcase that should not be swimming in the gene pool. The rest are pretty
much borderline headcases but a woman who picks d) is undisputably the one
to avoid having kids with
or even close relations, for that matter.
-- Steve
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What is 99 percent of copyright law? was Re: Richard Stallman
Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 21:31:59 -0700
Roberto Alsina wrote:
>
> On 28 Apr 2001 02:22:12 GMT, Dylan Thurston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Roberto Alsina wrote:
> >>Sun is going to ship GNOME linked to thir proprietary libc.
> >>The exception allowing linking to libc is only valid if the library
> >>is not shipped along the GPLd binary.
> >
> >From the GPL, clause 3:
> >
> >... However, as a special exception, the source code distributed need not
> >include anything that is normally distributed (in either source or binary
> >form) with the major components (compiler, kernel, and so on) of the
> >operating system on which the executable runs, unless that component
> >itself accompanies the executable.
> >
> >Thus there is a special exemption to allow linking with proprietary
> >libcs. (Whether or not its necessary has been the subject of extensive
> >flame wars, which I'd rather not touch off.)
>
> Read it. This exception applies "unless that component (the libc)
> itself accompanies the executable (GNOME)"
>
> Sun is planning to ship GNOME with Solaris (and it's libc) thus making
> this exception not apply.
>
> >Note the Sun already distributes, e.g., bash and gcc with Solaris.
>
> And that seems to me a breach of the letter of the GPL. Yet the
> FSF doesn't mind.
>
> --
> Roberto Alsina
I've got Solaris 8 and bash and gcc are given away. Sun does not
support either, you have to go to Gnu.org for support.
--
V
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 00:23:46 -0400
Matt Kennel wrote:
>
> On Wed, 02 May 2001 12:42:40 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :
> :So, to summarize, you believe that homosexual attraction is genetically
> :determined.
>
> The twin and brother studies seem to indicate that it is
>
> :In other words, it is a birth defect, just like congenital mental retardation.
>
> Or being black or lithuanian.
Being black or lithaunian doesn't interfere with the survival of
the DNA's lineage.
Being homosexual does.
Hope that helps.
>
> Its persistence in humans despite an obvious sexual reproductive
> advantage implies to me that the most likely genetics is that it is an
> unintended consequence of a combination of genes that are otherwise
> selected for.
>
> :Aaron R. Kulkis
>
> --
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> *
> * "To chill, or to pop a cap in my dome, whoomp! there it is."
> * Hamlet, Fresh Prince of Denmark.
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Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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