Linux-Advocacy Digest #717, Volume #34           Wed, 23 May 01 00:13:04 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop ("You've got MALE.. 
sex organs!")
  Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop ("You've got MALE.. 
sex organs!")
  Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop ("You've got MALE.. 
sex organs!")
  Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU! ("Matthew Gardiner")
  Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop ("You've got MALE.. 
sex organs!")
  Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU! ("Matthew Gardiner")
  Re: Warning to new users of Windows XP ("Paolo Ciambotti")
  Re: Warning to new users of Windows XP ("Matthew Gardiner")
  Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust! 
("Interconnect")
  Re: Linux dead on the desktop. ("Matthew Gardiner")
  Re: Warning to new users of Windows XP ("Ayende Rahien")
  Re: Linux dead on the desktop. ("Ayende Rahien")
  Re: Win2000 Annoyances ("Ayende Rahien")

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From: "You've got MALE.. sex organs!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 21:08:05 -0600

See how fucked up you are?

WHERE, WHEN have I advocated a "nationwide gun ban"? You're just
a goddam LIAR for implying this. But I see you making up this
sort of goddam LIE on a regular basis.

All I've done is point out what a bunch of pussies you ignorant
right wing shits are about everything, including the handling
of guns. If it weren't for assholes like you, people might not
assume anyone with a gun is some fucking idiot.

And BFD. 9 decorations.. They can't be worth much. I'm not
impressed. I suspect I could still whip your little weenie ass
bare handed, and I'm an OLD MAN now..

BTW, Junior, your sig file eats shit and you eat shit.

"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> 
> "You've got MALE.. sex organs!" wrote:
> >
> > Aw, suck my dick, you little right wing turd. I'll insult little
> > phoney fuckheads like you all I want. I've earned my rights to
> > criticize little bastards like you.
> 
> I hope you get your wish for nationwide gun ban.  Then me and all my
> rightwing gunnut friends can legally invade your home and totally
> trash it out looking for yours.
> 
> >
> > Oh, you're a SOLDIER! So fucking what? Plenty of us have been soldiers,
> > and I doubt that many have been as much of a sad sack as you. Soldiers
> > are like any other population - there are some great ones, and there are
> > some losers - like YOU.
> 
> I was decorated 9 times in my first 3 years of service.
> what does that tell you
> 
> >
> > If you are protecting us while we sleep, we aren't very secure
> > now, are we?
> 
> Weeeeaaaaaak!
> 
> >
> > BTW, your sig file sucks and you suck.
> >
> > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > >
> > > "Vallely's Dirt in Boss King's Ditch.." wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Aaron's a homophobe,
> > >             ^^^^^^^^^
> > >
> > > You misspelled "person who finds buggery disgusting"
> > >
> > > > in addition to being a pathetic little right
> > > > wing gunny turd..
> > >
> > > Be careful who you insult, asshole
> > >
> > > The military people who protect your constitutional rights are "right wing gunny 
>assholes"
> > >
> > > So are the police who protect you while you sleep.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    Aaron> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > > >    >>
> > > > > >    >> >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
> > > > > >    >>
> > > > > >    Aaron> Roberto Pavan wrote:
> > > > > >    >> >>
> > > > > >    >> >> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > > > >    >> >>
> > > > > >    >> >> > You guys STILL have yet to demonstrate that homosexuality is
> > > > > >    >> >> > anything OTHER than defective behavior.
> > > > > >    >> >>
> > > > > >    >> >> Why?  Seriously.  Why should they demonstrate anything?
> > > > > >    >> >>
> > > > > >    >> >> Seeing as it affects you not one whit whether someone chooses to 
>have sex with
> > > > > >    >> >> someone of the same gender, why should they have to prove 
>anything to you at all
> > > > > >    >> >> regarding this behaviour?  Why not go on wearing your tutu and 
>playing with your
> > > > > >    >>
> > > > > >    Aaron> If a car that I don't own, and I'm not riding in, crashes, 
>killing all aboard,
> > > > > >    Aaron> due to brake failure...
> > > > > >    >>
> > > > > >    Aaron> are you trying to imply that I should be prohibited from 
>commenting that
> > > > > >    Aaron> the car was obviously defective in some way...
> > > > > >    >>
> > > > > >    >> >> sock while listening to Barry Manilow records and staring at 
>pictures of flatulent
> > > > > >    >> >> field mice and leave them the hell alone?  Both you and they will 
>be ever so much
> > > > > >    >> >> happier...
> > > > > >    >>
> > > > > >    Aaron> Personally, I wish all of these defective people would quit 
>running around
> > > > > >    Aaron> demanding that I give them special rights, so that they can 
>indulge in
> > > > > >    Aaron> their defective behavior.
> > > > > >    >>
> > > > > >    >> Can you name a single right being asked for that heterosexuals
> > > > > >    >> do not either already have,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    Yes> The PRIVILEGE of not allowing others to judge their behavior.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    Aaron> For example, *I* get judged on my behavior all the time.  Why 
>should
> > > > > >    Aaron> homosexuals get a special exemption?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Who is asking for such a thing?
> > > > >
> > > > > The gay privileges lobby.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    >> or would have along with gays should
> > > > > >    >> the proposed item be passed into law?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    Aaron> They tried that in my home town just this week.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    Aaron> Although public opinion polls showed the special-rights-for-gays 
>proposal
> > > > > >    Aaron> to have a slight majority....the ACTUAL VOTING TURNOUT was a 
>landslide
> > > > > >    Aaron> defeat for the homsexuals.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Name one of the so-called special rights.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The privilege to NOT bear the consequences of one's behavior.
> > > > >
> > > > > >    Aaron> Imagine that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    >> I will not hold my breath.
> > > > > >    >>
> > > > > >    >> There is nothing "special" about equal rights.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    Aaron> Homosexual already HAVE equal rights.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No, they are not allowed to marry the willing adult of their
> > > > > > choice, and are thus shut out of a large set of rights, privileges
> > > > > > and responsibilities.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any man is allowed to marry any woman whom he so chooses.
> > > > > Any woman is allowed to marry any man whom she so chooses.
> > > > >
> > > > > All gays have these rights, just like anybody else.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    Aaron> Any additional laws are Special Privileges.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have yet to see a single special right or privilege being
> > > > > > asked for.
> > > > >
> > > > > You wish to escape the consequences of your deviancy.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You have, despite several challenges, failed to come up with
> > > > > > one.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Big surprise.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Andrew Hall
> > > > > > (Now reading Usenet in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh...)
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > > > > Unix Systems Engineer
> > >
> > > --
> > > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > > Unix Systems Engineer
> > > DNRC Minister of all I survey, wimp, virgin, right wing dufus, and Ditto suck ass
> > > ICQ # 3056642
> 
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642
> 
> L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
>    can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>    [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> K: Truth in advertising:
>         Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
>         Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
>         Special Interest Sierra Club,
>         Anarchist Members of the ACLU
>         Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
>         The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
>         Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
> 
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
>    The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
>    also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
> 
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
>    challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
>    between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
>    Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
> 
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
>     premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
>     you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
>     you are lazy, stupid people"
> 
> G:  Knackos...you're a retard.
> 
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
>    adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
> 
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
>    her behavior improves.
> 
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
>    ...despite (C) above.
> 
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
> 
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
>    method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
>    direction that she doesn't like.
> 
> A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: "You've got MALE.. sex organs!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 21:10:50 -0600

Robert!

Be quiet!

I was planning on trying the new Volt-o-Matic Rectal Probe on Aaron
himself,
when he appeared at my house to "ransackle" it..

Now you've spoiled it!

Roberto Alsina wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 22 May 2001 15:15:03 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >"You've got MALE.. sex organs!" wrote:
> >>
> >> Aw, suck my dick, you little right wing turd. I'll insult little
> >> phoney fuckheads like you all I want. I've earned my rights to
> >> criticize little bastards like you.
> >
> >I hope you get your wish for nationwide gun ban.  Then me and all my
> >rightwing gunnut friends can legally invade your home and totally
> >trash it out looking for yours.
> 
> Apparently you are unaware that doing such a thing is illegal,
> and a ban on guns would not change that situation. In fact, even without
> a gun, according to what I have read lately, he would be legally
> entitled to anally electrocute you.
> 
> >> Oh, you're a SOLDIER! So fucking what? Plenty of us have been soldiers,
> >> and I doubt that many have been as much of a sad sack as you. Soldiers
> >> are like any other population - there are some great ones, and there are
> >> some losers - like YOU.
> >
> >I was decorated 9 times in my first 3 years of service.
> >what does that tell you
> 
> You own some little ribbons you like to flaunt when you're among
> other slaves of the system? I find that ritualistic behaviour
> akin to baboon's exposure of erect penises as sign of authority.
> 
> --
> Roberto Alsina

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From: "You've got MALE.. sex organs!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 21:12:07 -0600

Actually, that hasn't been noticed. I've noticed a couple of impotent
little right wing turds posting to that effect on the internet (Aaron
one of them).

You don't speak for the military, you little insignificant bastard.

"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> 
> Roberto Alsina wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 22 May 2001 15:15:03 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >"You've got MALE.. sex organs!" wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Aw, suck my dick, you little right wing turd. I'll insult little
> > >> phoney fuckheads like you all I want. I've earned my rights to
> > >> criticize little bastards like you.
> > >
> > >I hope you get your wish for nationwide gun ban.  Then me and all my
> > >rightwing gunnut friends can legally invade your home and totally
> > >trash it out looking for yours.
> >
> > Apparently you are unaware that doing such a thing is illegal,
> > and a ban on guns would not change that situation. In fact, even without
> > a gun, according to what I have read lately, he would be legally
> > entitled to anally electrocute you.
> 
> Evidently, you haven't noticed that the POLICE and the (all volounteer) ARMY
> and MARINES are all, according to the anti-gun people, "right wing gun nuts"
> 
> Who the fuck is going to enforce this gun ban, other than the POLICE,
> the ARMY and the MARINES?
> 
> >
> > >> Oh, you're a SOLDIER! So fucking what? Plenty of us have been soldiers,
> > >> and I doubt that many have been as much of a sad sack as you. Soldiers
> > >> are like any other population - there are some great ones, and there are
> > >> some losers - like YOU.
> > >
> > >I was decorated 9 times in my first 3 years of service.
> > >what does that tell you
> >
> > You own some little ribbons you like to flaunt when you're among
> > other slaves of the system? I find that ritualistic behaviour
> > akin to baboon's exposure of erect penises as sign of authority.
> >
> 
> Commendation for work well done.
> 
> Work which I *CHOSE* to get into.
> 
> > --
> > Roberto Alsina
> 
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642
> 
> L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
>    can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>    [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> K: Truth in advertising:
>         Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
>         Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
>         Special Interest Sierra Club,
>         Anarchist Members of the ACLU
>         Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
>         The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
>         Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
> 
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
>    The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
>    also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
> 
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
>    challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
>    between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
>    Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
> 
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
>     premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
>     you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
>     you are lazy, stupid people"
> 
> G:  Knackos...you're a retard.
> 
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
>    adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
> 
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
>    her behavior improves.
> 
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
>    ...despite (C) above.
> 
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
> 
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
>    method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
>    direction that she doesn't like.
> 
> A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU!
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 15:07:56 +1200


"Michael Marion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Matthew Gardiner wrote:
>
> > If Microsoft wants to earn the same respect as the likes of NCR, UNISYS
or
> > Xerox, then maybe they should start porting IE to more than just Mac,
> > Windows and a few obscure UNIX's.
>
> They might also try doing a half way decent job in those ports too.  I've
> tried all the IE versions for Solaris, and it makes Netscape look like one
of
> the best apps ever written.

I've used IE on Solaris, and put it this way, I was crying :,( it was that
terrible.

matthew Gardiner



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From: "You've got MALE.. sex organs!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 21:15:52 -0600

Capt. Hudson is a wise man, for "fucking hating your guts", it appears.

Say, Aaron, why not just list the specific NINE decorations you
received?

Now, be accurate!

"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> 
> "." wrote:
> >
> > In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > "." wrote:
> > >>
> > >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> > "You've got MALE.. sex organs!" wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Aw, suck my dick, you little right wing turd. I'll insult little
> > >> >> phoney fuckheads like you all I want. I've earned my rights to
> > >> >> criticize little bastards like you.
> > >>
> > >> > I hope you get your wish for nationwide gun ban.  Then me and all my
> > >> > rightwing gunnut friends can legally invade your home and totally
> > >> > trash it out looking for yours.
> > >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Oh, you're a SOLDIER! So fucking what? Plenty of us have been soldiers,
> > >> >> and I doubt that many have been as much of a sad sack as you. Soldiers
> > >> >> are like any other population - there are some great ones, and there are
> > >> >> some losers - like YOU.
> > >>
> > >> > I was decorated 9 times in my first 3 years of service.
> > >> > what does that tell you
> > >>
> > >> That you're either A. lying or B. aaron kulkis isnt your real name.  If
> > >> you had been decorated, it would have been a matter of public record (as
> > >> all military decorations are).  Somehow though, not one person named
> > >> aaron kulkis was decorated for *anything* during the year preceeding
> > >> desert shield, desert shield itself, desert storm, and the year immediately
> > >> following.
> >
> > > Bzzzzzzt! Wrong.
> >
> > Say its wrong all you want, it still wont change the absolute fact that
> > neither the army, navy, marines nor airforce have any goddamn idea who
> > you are.  You are lying.  You are caught, and now you are insane and
> > pathetic.
> 
> That's strange.  Captain Bill Hudson, who fucking hates my guts, has
> REPEATEDLY identified not only my current unit, but previous units as well.
> 
> Why is that?
> 
> >
> > -----.
> >
> > --
> > "George Dubya Bush---the best presidency money can buy"
> >
> > ---obviously some Godless commie heathen faggot bastard
> 
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer, chronic liar, pathetic little right wing turd, dufus, virgin
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642

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From: "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU!
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 15:10:43 +1200


"Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:3b0ab102$0$2605$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "Michael Marion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> >
> > > If Microsoft wants to earn the same respect as the likes of NCR,
UNISYS or
> > > Xerox, then maybe they should start porting IE to more than just Mac,
> > > Windows and a few obscure UNIX's.
>
> Yeah, you know, those "few obscure UNIX's" like Solaris, HP-UX,
> and Digital Unix.
>
> If those are obscure, what's your definition of common?

Obscure, meaning, they are not easy to obtain.  Solaris is not obscure as it
is easy to buy, the systems are resonably priced when compared to HP and
Alpha workstations.  If HP started selling their PA-RISC systems at just
above what SUN is offering, I would purchase one, however, I don't have
$15,000 to spend (the current price), hence, the door is shut for me. Also,
it would help if they didn't charge $5000+ for their development tools.

matthew Gardiner



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From: "Paolo Ciambotti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Warning to new users of Windows XP
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 20:18:37 -0700

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Unknown"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My prediction is that within 5 minutes of it going gold the warez groups
> will be flooded with it.
> 
> flatfish

And universal activation keys will be for sale everywhere. "Hey meester,
you wannabuy XP key?  No?  How bout my seester then?  She a virgin."

Mundie was right; there is more money to be made off closed-source.

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From: "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Warning to new users of Windows XP
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 15:20:17 +1200


"Paolo Ciambotti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Unknown"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > My prediction is that within 5 minutes of it going gold the warez groups
> > will be flooded with it.
> >
> > flatfish
>
> And universal activation keys will be for sale everywhere. "Hey meester,
> you wannabuy XP key?  No?  How bout my seester then?  She a virgin."
>
> Mundie was right; there is more money to be made off closed-source.

Aka, it is easy to screw a large number of naive people using close-source.

Matthew Gardiner



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From: "Interconnect" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 13:34:20 +1000

<snip>
> Well, it's a myth that easy to use mean flat learning curve.
<snip>

That's all I wanted to point out. Reading Winvocates talk about ease of use,
sometimes leaves me with the impression that they  believe using Microsoft
products is NO effort at all or the level of effort required is so small
that it hardly warrants a mention.

In actual fact to become competent and productive with Microsoft products
can take just as much effort as using Linux products.

I also believe that an unbiased assessment of Linux will show that it is
clearly moving toward a more user friendly environment ( this benefits the
technical user also) and still retaining all the abilty to use CLI utilities
and applications that many people have grown to love and enjoy as well as
extremely powerful and useful.

Regards MSDN. My apologies I was under the impression MSDN was a fee based
service. I recall trying to dig up some info on IIS, asp and ServerScripting
from a MS site and being asked to cough up some money for information.
Obviously I had the wrong site in mind.

There no mention of the M word this time :D



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From: "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux dead on the desktop.
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 15:22:19 +1200


"Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:3b0aa7f7$0$2604$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "Ayende Rahien" <don'[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9ee7sc$f9s$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/opinions/3387/1/
> >
> > I can't say I don't agree.
> >
> > Some points:
> > A> The linux desktop company he's talking about is likely Mandrake.
> > B> He agrees with Daniel about users getting computer/OSes/shells not
for
> > the sake of the computer/OS/Shell, but for the applications that it run.
> > C> He seems to agree with me that you can't offer a slightly-less or
equal
> > product in order to convice people to switch, you need something vastly
> > sueprior.
>
> Not to mention new innovation. Everything that was out there for
> Linux was either a rehashed 30-year old app with a new GUI
> front end, or a cheap knock-off of a current Microsoft app.

Examples please.

Matthew Gardiner



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From: "Ayende Rahien" <don'[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Warning to new users of Windows XP
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 05:56:33 +0200


<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Wed, 23 May 2001 14:05:25 +1200, "Matthew Gardiner"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Ok, I am not a conspiracy theorist but here is my spin in it.
> >
> >Hypothetically, when Windows XP nobody gives a shit about WPA, and the
> >majority of end lusers buy it. Now there are two senarios that will
happen:
> >
> >1. This OS will probably hang around for 18 months to two years depending
on
> >the progress of .net. During the time they will be be giving activation
> >codes for those who install Windows XP v1.0, however, what is going to
> >happen after Windows XP v2.0 is released? will Microsoft continue to give
> >out activation codes for Windows XP 1.0? or will they just say to Joe
Shmo
> >that because he upgraded a significant portition of his hardware, and
that
> >Microsoft no longer supports, aka give out activation codes for it, he
will
> >have to upgrade to Windows XP 2.0.  I can honestly see it happening.
>
>
> My prediction is that within 5 minutes of it going gold the warez
> groups will be flooded with it.

Your prediction is wrong, it's already flooding the warez groups.



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From: "Ayende Rahien" <don'[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux dead on the desktop.
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 06:08:08 +0200


"Craig Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > "Craig Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > > Oh puh-leeze.  Perhaps if Windows came with any useful software I
> > > would consider using it; as it comes now it's simply a glorified
> > > typewriter until you spend hours updating and installing by hand.
> >
> > So which is it? If it comes with apps, then MS is an evil monopoly
> > trying to squish out all app vendors and competitors, if they
> > don't then they're just a glorified typewriter.
> >
> > Which is it?
>
>  [sorry for the double follow-up]
>
> Show me *one* good, free image viewer that is as capable as any of the
> standard Linux viewers.  *That* is why I dislike Windows; every
> niggling little thing costs $20 (shareware) to $500 in order to fill
> in the same thing Linux does for free.

InfraView.
Recent Windows versions has Image Viewer, too.

> Sure, the Windows software may have a few more features, but more
> often than not the Linux equivalents have other features not present
> in the Windows versions (is there an equal to cdparanoia for Windows
> yet??  It's only been 4 years now).

CDEX.

> Some software packages simply
> aren't available for Linux in any form (Quark, Access) -- but that's
> only important if you *require* those packages.

Indeed.
What you should've mentioned is CD-Burner, which (at least to my knowledge)
you can't get for free for windows.



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From: "Ayende Rahien" <don'[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Win2000 Annoyances
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 06:15:36 +0200


"Zsolt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Ayende Rahien <don'[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Tue, 22 May 2001 22:07:39 +0200 presented
us with the wisdom:
> >
> > "Mike Vance" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > 3) Win2000 has still proven amazingly unstable even though everyone
> > > taughts its stability.  Its self-corrupting nature is not as potent as
> > > it was in Win95/98 but I still find it growing progressively more
> > > unstable as the day continues.  Have to reboot it daily.  I've have
many
> > > blue screens of death with it (daily even) and even got a nice
registry
> > > corruption and profile corruption thrown in seperately to spice things
> > > up.  No wonder all the good servers are Linux-based.
> >
> > Can you give me some of the titles of those BSODs?
> > I've dealt with Win2K systems since B3, and I've never had it.
> > There are usually one of two reasons for this, bad hardware or bad
drivers.
> >
>
> Don't you all just _LOVE_ these double standards ???

No double standard here, I wouldn't blame Linux for a bad driver/hardware
either.

> If/when Linux can't handle a specific hardware, then it goes like:
> "These pile of shit linsux can't work with my superb hardware" OR
> "These stupid linux geeks can't even write a proper driver"
>
> On the other hand, all Windows BSODs are due to either:
> a) bad hardware  OR
> b)  bad drivers

Oh, not all of them, just a very large precentage of the NT line.
9x crashes on its own accord.



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