> so which apps are you wanting to use in an "integrated" way?
> note: i know that you can make some interesting experimental noise > with linux (i've done it). but i don't know of anyone who could use it > for producing the kinds of sonic arrangements most people would call > "music" unless you're a bleeding edge muse or ardour developer/user, > and likely not even then at this point. > > --p Ok, I do agree there is no single ubiquitous app on the linux audio scene that one could call complete or even remotely perfect, but on the other hand I tend to strongly disagree with your statement that there are no good apps that are capable of producing professional-sounding performances. Heck, I've gotten my Masters degree in composition by using RTCmix in real-time environment (with my own arbitrary front-end built to control the whole performance), and so far all the critiques of my work were nothing but positive. Did the samples get out of sync? Probably. But neither did I get to notice that, nor is that the point. The point is that the piece sounded as good as any other professionally produced work (here I am NOT speaking about the work's artistic value, but strictly about the production value -- just to make sure you understand I am not trying to kiss my own behind :-), and that is all I care for (plus the obvious latency issue and the sharing of audio resources so that I can simultaneously run jmax, pd and rtcmix or some kind of crazy combination of that sort). If you also check the pd and jmax lists, you'll get to hear every so often a great success story using linux in live performance. That's why I believe that you are seriously undermining the linux art scene. It's not all in midi. On the contrary, very few professional electronic music artists use midi for anything more than some kind of external controller. On the other hand, while Ardour is going to be the app of all multitrack apps, currently there are plenty for non-real-time mixing out there which do job more than adequately (obviously including snd). The apps are out there. Maybe not as strong as protools and similar commercial stuff when compared as individual entities (and certainly still lacking in the midi department), but when used in combination, they pose (IMO) as the most powerful audio platform available. If I didn't believe in this, I wouldn't be here writing this, or using linux for my own creative work... Ico (the man who made "D" in LAD stand for Discussion ;-)