On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Hetz Ben Hamo <het...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Erez, > > The latest versions of Ubuntu, as well as Fedora and OpenSuSE 11.x use > the latest Xorg server which *does not* need the /etc/xorg.conf file. > Everything regarding the card is being done automatically (probing > etc), so when you install Fedora 10 for example, you won't find this > file. i am switching (trying to switch) to fedore 10 didn't work out of the box > > I assume that ATI tools do try to find this file, do a bit of parsing > and modifying it. Since its not there, I suggest you re-create it with > your distribution specific tools. "X --configure" creates a really > messy file. Try to create a file with a settings for the open source > driver, and then feed this to the atitool. i created with X --configure on the open source driver. on the ati binary it failed sith sig11 (segmentation fault) > > > It's really not the sweatiest land here in NVidia world. I'm using a > Windows XP machine here for some tests with Geforce 8500 1GB RAM and > I'm testing some VMWare stuff. I spent a whole day to find something > which is so simple with ATI: When a program sits on another > non-primary monitor, when you make it full screen, it should be full > screen on *that* monitor (VMWare full screen, not maximized window) > and *not* on primary monitor. ATI have this function working for years > in windows and guess what? not possible in NVidia's "twinview" mode. > You can use the nView crappy stuff, but still vmware insists open full > screen on primary monitor. > > So it really depends who develops your Linux driver. nVidia, Although > not opening their driver's source code, is really trying to put any > feature that their cards have to be supported under Linux. CUDA, > PurePlay, Twinview etc - all suported under Linux these days with 1 > driver and easy install. ATI - a total nightmare on Linux, specially > for the latest distributions. what i care about is linux support. and it sucked for me on ati thanks, erez. > > > Hetz > > On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Erez D <erez0...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > If you arg thinking of buying a new graphic card, and want to choose > ati.... i wouldn't recommend that. > > > > > > Although oficially ati has "catalyst" drivers for their new cards - it > didn't work on mine (which is supported) > > > > > > i have recently bought a new computer. my old one had nvidia , and my new > has ati 4550 passive. > > > > on nvidia, as i recall. if i didn't have distribution specific drivers, i > could install the binary one. > > picking it was easy. there was only one to pick from. > > i installed it, and it worked. > > on ubuntu, there was a distribuition speceific driver and it worked out > of the box > > > > in ati - i had to choose from a list of around 20. neither had 4550 as an > option. i chose the one marked as 'X550' > > i installed the driver, it didn't tell me if it was the right driver or > not. > > rebooting as they asked, and running X, i got a distorted screen with > horizontal lines on it. > > > > i erased /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and tried installing the driver again. when > i ran "aticonfig --initial" it refused as i had no xorg.conf > > i tried 'X -configure' (which worked before i installed the driver), but > it failed with sig 11. > > and now i do not have X, to find how to uninstall it ... > > > > it was good i had a backup of my xorg.conf (with the opensource driver) > > > > ati gave a link to where to send bug reports. i followed the link just to > find a page full of information which didn't have any place to put a bug > report on. > > after nevigating for some time i found where i can fill a bug report. but > i have to register first. i had to fill in many fields like what version of > their catalyst driver i was using (and of-course the version which i > downloaded the same day from their site wasn't there). > > in the end i filed a bug report and went to bed. > > > > A day later i got an email: just press this link and login, and you will > find an answer > > i loged-in -> again many detailes, neither relevant. > > i pressed the link again. this time one link was relevant - it was an > answer to my bug report and it was: > > quoting: "Although we have drivers for Linux posted on the ATI website, > we do not provide technical support for driver or multimedia issues in Linux > directly. " > > > > so i say again. i wouldn't recomend buying from ATI. > > from now on. no ati neither amd for me. > > > > (with nvidia i used twinview and tv-out. i hope the opensource ati > driver supports this ...) > > > > > > cheers, > > erez. > > > > > > > > -- > Skepticism is the lazy person's default position. > my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org >
