Linux-Misc Digest #624, Volume #18 Fri, 15 Jan 99 08:13:12 EST
Contents:
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Andres Soolo)
Re: Why isn't this simple script working? ("Jürgen Exner")
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (jedi)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Julien SALGADO)
Re: Try to install Acrobat Reader ... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
can't compile quota.h (Francesc Guasch)
Real Time Linux ("C.R.Anderson")
Dell Latitude CPi300XT + Linux (RedHat 5.2) (Rickard Rickardsson)
Re: Problems with modem/ppp protocol in linux (Brian McCauley)
Error of compiling Cnews's Makefile ("Norifumi Sanada")
Re: pppd and user permissions (Bill Unruh)
Re: euro support in kernel 2.0 (Richard Robinson)
?? BIOS-Info (cooling FAN etc..) (Christian Bauer)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Craig Kelley)
Re: AfterStep 1.6.6 RPM Help (Ed Young)
Re: Currupted filesystem: Causes? (Duncan Simpson)
playmidi and SB16 ? (Cliff Bradshaw)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Marco Anglesio)
XDM & RH 5.2 (-)
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From: Andres Soolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: 15 Jan 1999 11:00:28 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Arthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Probably a lot of other people did as well. I suspect
> there is a lot of legacy software that would break
> if MS eliminated this. Talk about an OS based on 70's
> technology ...
Actually that's what I meant - '70s technology in '90s :)
A good candidate for Guinness Records, I think.
On the other hand, how could it be that Microsoft didn't
break _that_ backwards compatibility to force the developers
upgrade to latest M$C++? I suppose until DOS version 4.0 or 5.0
it didn't have enough monopoly power as there were serious
competitors (such as DR-DOS). By the time releasing 6.0 they
had it AFAIR. Hint for alt.destroy.microsoft folks: this
shows there are holes in Microsoft marketing machine.
Anyways, does anyone remember these times? Maybe there
was something behind this that I've missed...
On the third hand, it may be that M$ could hire its first really
capable marketing specialists only in 1994 or 1995, but
I don't think I am eager to believe it.
> Perfect Writer for CP/M had EMACS key bindings too (in
> the early 80's), and there was package that added Unix
In Soviet Union where we used *only* pirated software, it
was not simply available. Besides, the bob/bill suggested
that no one under 10 could use vi productively. Somehow
it seems to me he didn't think so bad about Emacs.
> Yes, but please restrict it to 4 lines in the future.
Fixed.
Tried to set followups to c.o.l.a and alt.destroy.microsoft.
This thread is too badly off-topic for the rest ones.
--
Andres Soolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Below you can see a single invisible tagline.
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From: "Jürgen Exner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Why isn't this simple script working?
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:19:57 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message <77l4e4$5ql$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hello everyone,
>
>Can anyone tell me why this *simple* script is not working? It is driving
me
>bonkers! (Yes, I made it executable):
>
>PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin
>export PATH
>
>That's it! If I type this in manually, it will work. If I run the script,
it
>won't set the PATH. What's up?
Because child processes can not alter the environment of parent processes.
Use "source <scriptname>" (that is for the csh family of shells) if you want
to run the script in the current process instead of in a child process.
An yes, this is a very frequently asked UNIX question.
jue
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Jürgen Exner; microsoft.com, UID: jurgenex
Sorry for this anti-spam inconvenience
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jedi)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:19:17 -0800
On Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:04:03 GMT, Jim G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
>>Let's be realistic here. MS didn't create stupid users. They existed
>>already. Windows et al made computers so common, everyone seems to have
>>one. That's why you see so many clueless users. It's like making cars
>>accessable to everyone, you're bound to uncover people who can't drive
>>at all. Some people just don't have any sense whatsoever.
>
>One thing I can not understand about Linux folks is why they think they are
>so much better than 95% of the people in the world just because they
>happened to figure out how to get a Linux system running with out burning
>down their house.
We just don't necessary waste our money on garbage just
because we're trying to 'follow the crowd' like the morons
that wasted money on PC's 10 years ago.
My disdain for Microsoft's customers rather predates Linux.
>
>A lot of my customers and friends are very talented people - they are NOT
>STUPID and virtually all would be insulted by the statements above and some
>would would be ready to reshape Chris' anatomy for his views.
What makes you think think this Chris fellow hasn't been
sufficently trained to deal with such situations?
[deletia]
--
Herding Humans ~ Herding Cats
Neither will do a thing unless they really want to, or |||
is coerced to the point where it will scratch your eyes out / | \
as soon as your grip slips.
In search of sane PPP docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Julien SALGADO)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: 14 Jan 1999 18:27:52 GMT
Paul Flinders wrote:
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
:> The answer to this is fairly simple. When the first PCs came out (and I'm
:> not talking IBMs here, this is before that, even) they had a microprocessor
:> and maybe 1k of RAM.
:
:I don't think anything which was sold outside the hoby electronics market
:had that little RAM. The early commodore PET had 8k I think, and the ZX80 (a
:little later) had 16k.
I am afraid you're wrong! The XZ80 was sold with 1k of RAM and 4k of ROM,
and the XZ81 with 1k of RAM and 8k of ROM... wonderfull, wasn't it?
You could add 16k of RAM for both and that was... There is no word to
express that. ;-)
--
Julien
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Try to install Acrobat Reader ...
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:20:18 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:04:08 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I downloaded the Linux file, unpacked it, and run ./INSTALL, just as
>the Instguid.txt suggests. It just shows me the licence agreement. How
>to proceed ?
>
I must admit that I pressed Ctrl-Z to terminate the license agreement. I guess
that killed the install as well. But how to do it correct ?
=====================================================
Answers please in this newsgroup!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Francesc Guasch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: can't compile quota.h
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:26:23 +0100
I want to use the quotactl feature, here is the program:
#include <linux/quota.h>
main() {
// that is just for testing purposes
printf("%d\n",quotactl(0x0400,"/dev/sda4",500,0));
}
It complains with that and more like this:
In file included from setquota.c:1:
/usr/include/linux/quota.h:113: parse error before `__u32'
/usr/include/linux/quota.h:113: warning: no semicolon at end of struct
or union
/usr/include/linux/quota.h:114: warning: data definition has no type or
storage class
I tried gcc-2.8.1 and latest egcs. What else can I try ?
--
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Y (_, (__(Ssss He who would search for pearls must dive below.
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From: "C.R.Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Real Time Linux
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:05:13 +0000
Hi,
Can anyone tell me what the status of Real Time Linux is?
Is it available from someone like Red Hat?
I need to draw some comparisons (for and against) between RT Linux and
other RT OS's like VXWorks......has anyone any thoughts?
Thanks
Chris Anderson
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From: Rickard Rickardsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Dell Latitude CPi300XT + Linux (RedHat 5.2)
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:57:16 +0100
Hi
Has anybbody installed Linux (preferably RedHat 5.2) on
Dell Latitude CPi 300XT ?????
I've seen a page covering installation on a Dell Latitude CPi266XT
and that really should be the same ... BUT I want to be sure !!!
I don't want to buy commercial stuffs like the xserver etc !!!
please send your answers to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or post it to the newsgroup !!!!
/henrik Sandklef
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From: Brian McCauley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problems with modem/ppp protocol in linux
Date: 14 Jan 1999 18:21:47 +0000
"Erik Unemyr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes the same
old tiered question:
> I have no idea what th "all had bit 7 set to 0" means, can anyone help me?
Probably means that you are doing a scripted login when you should
not, or that you need a put command after the scripted login to start
PPP and haven't.
For details see previous instances of this question.
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From: "Norifumi Sanada" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Error of compiling Cnews's Makefile
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:59:40 +0900
If someone who knows whether wrong settings on Makefile by answering quiz
script, let me know.
I have problem on it. Error message as following
: A mysterious fatal error here probably means you gave quiz the
: wrong answer when it asked you how to do an include in a makefile.
cd conf ; make mx
Error message is always displayed after make. In this message, it insist I
gave quiz script the wrong answer. Please refer my answer as default. This
is quiz.def file
# These answers are interdependent; do not edit this file!
newsuid="news"
# These answers are interdependent; do not edit this file!
newsgid="news"
# These answers are interdependent; do not edit this file!
newsarts="/var/news"
# These answers are interdependent; do not edit this file!
newsov="/var/news"
# These answers are interdependent; do not edit this file!
newsctl="/etc/news"
# These answers are interdependent; do not edit this file!
newsbin="/usr/libexec/news"
# These answers are interdependent; do not edit this file!
newspath="/bin:/usr/bin"
# These answers are interdependent; do not edit this file!
newsumask="002"
# These answers are interdependent; do not edit this file!
newsconfig="/etc/news/bin/config"
# These answers are interdependent; do not edit this file!
newscrisis="newscrisis"
# These answers are interdependent; do not edit this file!
newsmaster="newsmaster"
# These answers are interdependent; do not edit this file!
addrsize="big"
# These answers are interdependent; do not edit this file!
fake=" fsync.o"
# These answers are interdependent; do not edit this file!
storeval=""
# These answers are interdependent; do not edit this file!
faststdio="no"
# These answers are interdependent; do not edit this file!
fakehdrs=" sys/timeb.h"
# These answers are interdependent; do not edit this file!
ranlib="no"
# These answers are interdependent; do not edit this file!
make="make"
# These answers are interdependent; do not edit this file!
include="bsd"
# These answers are interdependent; do not edit this file!
cc=""
# These answers are interdependent; do not edit this file!
copts="-O"
# These answers are interdependent; do not edit this file!
ldopts=""
# These answers are interdependent; do not edit this file!
postlibs=""
# These answers are interdependent; do not edit this file!
uucptype="hdb"
# These answers are interdependent; do not edit this file!
dftype="bsd"
# These answers are interdependent; do not edit this file!
dfdirs="no"
# These answers are interdependent; do not edit this file!
archive="no"
# These answers are interdependent; do not edit this file!
spacelow="no"
# These answers are interdependent; do not edit this file!
nfsgroup="no"
# These answers are interdependent; do not edit this file!
server="newsie"
# These answers are interdependent; do not edit this file!
rbin="/usr/local/input"
# These answers are interdependent; do not edit this file!
bin="/usr/local/readnews"
# These answers are interdependent; do not edit this file!
faststrchr="yes"
# These answers are interdependent; do not edit this file!
sftype="sh"
I took Cnews package from ftp://ftp.uu.net/networking/news/cnews
c-news.tar.Z 674,596byte Patch Level is CR.E This one is patched to CR.G,
CR.F for upgrade
This is Makefile using for compile in this time.
# things that just might have to be changed
MAKE=make
# Do not mess with the following; configuration is done by other means.
# There are some complex little dances done because this makefile must
# be operational before the syntax of makefile-include is known. The
# makefile in conf, in particular, is heavily interwoven with this one.
LIBDIRS=libbig libc libcnews libdbz libfake libsmall libstdio
PDIRS=util batch conf ctl expire explode inject input maint \
nov readnews relay
UIDIRS=inject maint
RDIRS=$(PDIRS)
SLOWRDIRS=libdbz
INALL=conf/inall
ROPT=
# System V bug fix
SHELL=/bin/sh
all: needquiz patchchores msub sub mx libcnews.a pgms
: everything built successfully
lib: libcnews.a
libcnews.a: needquiz msub sub mx conf/liblist
$(INALL) "$(MAKE)" `cat conf/liblist`
freshlib:
rm -f libcnews.a conf/liblist
$(MAKE) lib
pgms: needquiz msub sub mx libcnews.a
$(INALL) "$(MAKE)" $(PDIRS)
: programs built successfully
install: needquiz
$(INALL) "$(MAKE) install" $(PDIRS)
: 'all programs installed!'
: 'but input/newsspool needs its ownership and permissions changed'
setup: needquiz
$(INALL) "$(MAKE) setup" $(PDIRS)
cd conf ; $(MAKE) versetup
ui: needquiz
$(INALL) "$(MAKE) ui" $(UIDIRS)
: 'user interface installed'
readpostcheck: needquiz
$(INALL) "$(MAKE) readpostcheck" readnews
: 'readnews, postnews, checknews installed'
cmp: needquiz
$(INALL) "$(MAKE) cmp" $(PDIRS)
: 'no worrisome differences found'
cmpok:
$(INALL) "$(MAKE) cmp CMPOPT=-i" $(PDIRS)
# conf/makeinc and conf/substitutions depend on quiz and conf/useanswers
too,
# but including them here would defeat the don't-touch-if-unchanged trick in
# conf/useanswers which avoids spurious re-runs of subst.
include/config.make: quiz conf/useanswers
: "you must run (or re-run) quiz first -- see README.install"
@false
needquiz: include/config.make
msub: conf/msubsts.done
conf/msubsts.done: conf/makefilelist conf/makeinc conf/subst
sh conf/subst -f conf/makeinc `cat conf/makefilelist`
touch $@
sub: conf/substs.done
conf/substs.done: conf/subst.all conf/substitutions conf/subst
sh conf/subst -f conf/substitutions `cat conf/subst.all`
touch $@
mx: conf/mx.done
conf/mx.done: msub include/config.make
: A mysterious fatal error here probably means you gave quiz the
: wrong answer when it asked you how to do an include in a makefile.
cd conf ; make mx
touch $@
small:
echo "include libc libcnews $(DBZ) libfake libsmall" >conf/liblist
big:
echo "include libc libcnews $(DBZ) libfake libbig" >conf/liblist
stdio:
cd libstdio ; $(MAKE) r $(ROPT) || ( $(MAKE) clean ; exit 1 )
: and only if that succeeded...
cd libstdio ; $(MAKE) rclean
echo "libstdio" >>conf/liblist
ourstdio:
: "Find out if our stdio speedups will work on your system..."
-$(MAKE) stdio
: "If that failed, don't panic -- the makefiles will cope. It just"
: "means that the stdio speedups don't work on this system."
sleep 5
sysstdio:
conf/liblist: include/config.make
cd conf ; $(MAKE) liblist
patchchores:
: if this fails, you have not installed all parts of a multi-part patch
test " `cat conf/versionname | sed 's/^[^.]*\..//'`" = " " ;
: delete files obsoleted by patches
rm -f `cat conf/deadfiles`
r:
$(INALL) "$(MAKE) r $(ROPT) && $(MAKE) rclean" $(RDIRS)
: leave libdbz to last because its regression test is rather slow
$(INALL) "$(MAKE) r $(ROPT) && $(MAKE) rclean" $(SLOWRDIRS)
: 'all tests successful!'
: 'either you or newsmaster should have mail from the "report" test'
tidy:
: 'if this bombs messily, you probably did a "make spotless" already'
$(INALL) "$(MAKE) clean" $(LIBDIRS) $(PDIRS)
clean: tidy
$(INALL) "$(MAKE) clean" include
rm -f libcnews.a
veryclean: clean
rm -f conf/*.done conf/liblist
spotless:
-$(MAKE) veryclean
rm -f include/config.make conf/makeinc conf/substitutions
sterile: spotless
rm -f conf/quiz.def
# this is strictly for development use
.DEFAULT:
: if you see this, you are doing something wrong -- the following
: is strictly for development use
$(MAKE) -f mfile $@
My machine is installed Slackware 2.0.0
Asp I hesitated to answer when it asked me what system call and libraries
should be included into Makefile, I guess answered all yes at that time.
Please advice.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: pppd and user permissions
Date: 14 Jan 1999 18:05:08 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Frank Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
B
>Bill Unruh wrote:
>> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Frank Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>writes:
>> >$command="/usr/sbin/pppd name \"".$NAME."\"".
>> Put it into the /etc/ppp/options file instead. It is a priviledged
>Sorry but put what in the /etc/ppp/options file? I didn't make the perl
>script I just want to be able to execute it as a user and have it work.
Put
name bloggs
into /etc/ppp/options file
(where of course bloggs is replaced by the proper name)
Read man pppd under the name option. name is a privildged command and
can either only be done by root from the command line, or be placed into
the /etc/ppp/optons file (presumably by root). When you have done so,
remove the name \"".$NAME."\"" from the command line
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Robinson)
Subject: Re: euro support in kernel 2.0
Date: 9 Jan 1999 17:21:23 -0000
In article <76tf69$duq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Colin Ling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Does anyone know if there is a patch for the Euro support in kernel 2.0
>
>The kernel doesn't do much with character sets (there are some translation
>tables for converting filenames in some filesystems). In 2.0.36 it does not
>support ISO 8859-15 ("latin9"), the successor to Latin1 which includes the
>euro sign.
>
>>and will it be supported in 2.2?
>
>The conversion table for Latin9 support is in the pre2.2 kernels already.
>
>Supporting Latin9 is much more a user-space issue. See
>http://freshmeat.net/news/1998/11/24/911939067.html .
On a not-entirely-unrelated matter, can anybody explain to me how to use a
UK keyboard to type accented (etc) characters, or point me at a HOWTO ?
In a text terminal screen the old <alt><number-keypad> method seems to
work, just as I learnt it in DOS all those years ago, but not in X - is
there a way to make it ? Some sort of extra magic in xmodmap ?
'dumpkeys' gives a whole load of lines of the form
compose '"' 'A' to 'Ä'
but I can't find a combination of keys that has the effect of 'compose'.
In the meantime I'm doing, eg, 'echo \"a | charconv -f t' in an xterm, and
then pasting the character it outputs into where I want it, since I know
the TeX spellings for the ones I want. But there's got to be a more elegant
way.
--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem
I don't want to receive UCE :- remove 'x' to reply.
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From: Christian Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ?? BIOS-Info (cooling FAN etc..)
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:17:52 +0100
Hello...
are there any programs to watch some bios-values like
Processor-Temperature or cooling fan rotation speed ??
thanx for infos
christian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Craig Kelley)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: 14 Jan 1999 11:04:39 -0700
In article <77l6os$hl3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Grant W. Petty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
->Case in point: the Beta vs. VHS war back in the late 70s (or whenever
->it was). For quite a while, consumers could choose. Technically
->informed people knew that Beta was a superior format and chose that.
->But VHS started to gain a decisive edge in market share (through
->effective marketing) and it snowballed from there. At one point in my
->life, I had to choose between buying into a superior technology which
->was clearly on its way out or one for which there was actual
->commercial support, in the form of a wide selection of rental videos,
->etc. Guess which one I (grudgingly) chose? So did everyone else. End
->of story.
I need to jump in here and stomp on this analogy. It is quite
interesting that people use this one over and OVER and O V E R in OS
wars, thinking that it apologizes for something or other. What if you
look at it this way: The Beta standard was controlled and licensed by
Sony. They had exclusive rights to charge companies for making the
devices and such whereas VHS was more of a communal standard which was
set by several other companies (most importantly, Panasonic).
So, if the great "VHS vs. Beta" analogy is suppost to be analogous to
anything in our OS world of today, I'd wager that:
Sony => Microsoft [ Beta => Windows ]
Others => Open Source [ VHS => Linux/BSD ]
That's _politically_ speaking, of course. If I had to compare
technologies then I'd probably say that Open Source is best
represented by LaserDisc. :)
[snip]
->Finally, if Linux is to have half a chance of making inroads into the
->broader market, it has to become possible to do a complete install and
->configuration simply by sticking a CD in the drive and clicking
->"install". I just installed Suse 5.3 on my PC last week and it's
->still FAR from being a process the average Joe Blow would be able to
->muddle through, I think.
Try RedHat 5.2.
It auto-detected *everything* on my system (including my sound and
video cards). I've installed every major distribution and RedHat is
by far the easiest to get running.
--
The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: Ed Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AfterStep 1.6.6 RPM Help
Date: 15 Jan 1999 12:22:26 GMT
=======.xinitrc=====================================================
#!/bin/sh
xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap
BROWSER=`which netscape`
export BROWSER
# start some nice programs
unclutter &
xautolock &
eval "exec /usr/local/bin/afterstep" > "$HOME"/.AfterStep-errors 2>&1
====================================================================
Brian St. Pierre wrote:
>
> so adding this file will make afterstep work? I am new to Linux so if you
> could give me an idea of what to put in this file it would help a lot....
> Thanks again for the help!!
>
> Brian
>
> Jim Richardson wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:10:29 -0600,
> > Brian St. Pierre
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> brought forth the following words...:
> >
> > >i just updated AfterStep 1.5b4 to 1.6.6 on my RedHat 5.2 system...
> > >Before i could load AfterStep from the start menu of fvwm95 but since
> > >installing teh new AfterStep, i no longer have AfterStep as an option to
> > >switch to??? Can anyone help?
> > >
> >
> > For me, it was a simple as makeing an .xinitrc file in $HOME that said
> > afterstep
> >
> > worked for me under redhat 5.0/1/2
> >
> > --
> > Jim Richardson
> > Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
> > WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
> > Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Duncan Simpson)
Subject: Re: Currupted filesystem: Causes?
Date: 15 Jan 1999 12:33:39 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Juergen Heinzl) writes:
[stuff about corrupted filesystem snipped for brevity]
>... should not happen at all, so power failures, kernel bugs, FS bugs,
>hardware related problems, you did not shutdown your machine in a clean
>way but cannot remember ...
There are some causes that are hard to eliminate on a budget, like you
pre-paid electricity running out, power cuts and complete and utter
power supply failure (my 486 currently has this problem, and it looks
like it will get replaced by something a lot better at no cost to
me...all I asked for was a full tower case with working power
supply). I might have a machine with a chance it the linux hardware
spec comptetition (when my machine was young a 486DX2/50 with 8Mb of
memory and VLB graphics was high spec and 0.99 was king, now a
486DX2/50 with 16Mb is nowhere).
In my experience e2fsck almost always fixes the filing system with no
data loss. Very occasionally I see minimal additions to lost+found
directories and I can almost always identify the file and restore it
to the right place. I have had complete hard disc failure and did lose
some data that way; it is always hard to remember these devices have
an MTBF [Mean Time Before Failure].
When I completely fouled up the partition table on a disc I managed to
recover all the linux partitions and completely failed on the M$
partition. This illistrates graphically the recoverability of linux
data vs. M$ data.
Duncan (-:
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cliff Bradshaw)
Subject: playmidi and SB16 ?
Date: 15 Jan 1999 12:29:01 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I've just compiled up 'playmidi' for Linux and *cannot*
get it to play midi files through the FM synth on my
soundcard! As far as I know, the sound drivers are correctly
compiled into the kernel, all the IRQ and DMA settings are
correct. I've tried fiddling with the 'playmidi.h' file
and tried all the command line options. And I get zip,
nada, nothing!
It plays successfully through the external midi connector
to a keyboard, but NOT through the FM synth.
Anyone else had this problem? Anyone know what to do?
--
Cliff
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Linux: The Choice of a GNU Generation"
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From: Marco Anglesio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:25:37 GMT
In alt.os.linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> it was the Altair). Now, can you imagine trying to squeeze a UNIX-type
> operating system on one of those?
Xenix used to run on 286's comfortably. No local X (although you could run
X terminals off one) but such is life.
> Really, it wasn't until 1990 and later
> that PCs have had the actual capacity to comfortably run Linux.
Coincidentally, Linux was only first written in 1990, and takes advantage
of new features on the 386. It runs quite well, too - not if you want to
do compiles, but it's a decent terminal, gateway, or what have you. X
needs a bit more power and certainly more RAM.
> Microsoft, Linux probably wouldn't have many boxes to run on. So if Linux
> ends up putting a dent into Microsoft, Bill has no one but himself to blame.
And Intel, for that matter. Given Moore's law, the power of a
microprocessor will double every 18 months; Bill took advantage of it (as
any developer would - I mean, you get twice the power every 18 months),
but I think that he was a toddler when the prediction was actually made.
He's certainly not responsible for Moore's law.
> Because it was the only OS small enough to run on those early PCs. Maybe
CP/M and Xenix did, as well as DOS and the AT could run any of these,
IIRC. DOS just cost a lot less, and came with MS Basic. Easy choice (and I
believe there was a choice) for a manager just getting into computers: go
with the cheap one.
marco
--
Marco Anglesio Like Captain Idiot
mpa at the-wire dot com in Astounding Science comics
http://www.the-wire.com/~mpa (The Manchurian Candidate)
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From: - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: XDM & RH 5.2
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:02:45 GMT
Any reason why XDM "seems" to have stopped working for RH 5.2? Seemed
fine in RH 5.1...
--
-Chuck
Domain: boeing.com
UID: richard.c.wolber
Sorry for the e-mail inconvenience.
These are my thoughts, they do not represent the
Boeing Company.
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