Linux-Misc Digest #697, Volume #18 Wed, 20 Jan 99 00:13:09 EST
Contents:
Linux Newbie / Mouse Problems! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: iomega atapi zip under RH5.2 ("Michael.Creasy")
Re: rpm available for Rasmol 2.6?? (Raymond Doetjes)
Re: WWW: Star Office Discussion Forum (Michael Sanders)
Applix/ELF bug workaround needed in charting ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: having no /etc/fstab is not nice! -- please help (Rick Walker)
Re: RHLinux "Deluxe" vs 'regular' RHL 5.2 (Steve Sorden)
Re: NT & RHL 5.2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use) (Festus van Landingham)
Re: securing a linux box (Yan Seiner)
Re: having no /etc/fstab is not nice! -- please help (Michael Phillips)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. ("Ciaran Dunn")
Re: LINUX & Encryption technology (Darryl Watson)
Re: Linux vs SolarisX86 (Philip Brown)
Re: UNIX - Who, What, Where? (Ted Staberow)
Re: AutoPPP and pppd server (Bob Hauck)
Re: Linux Article - Please help (garv)
Re: Agent under WINE: HELP (NF Stevens)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Jason O'Rourke)
Re: Debian and netbase start/stop problems (John Hasler)
Re: Thoughts on file organization (David Bubar)
Re: 2038 and Linux (Bloody Viking)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux Newbie / Mouse Problems!
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 02:44:01 GMT
Greetings All,
I recently installed Redhat Linux 5.1 on a 486DX4 100 machine, and can't get
the Mouse, Microsoft two button Serial v2.0 (Serial port 1) to work under X
Windows. I ran the xf86configcommand and entered different paths for the
mouse, (/dev/cua0), (/dev/ttyS0).I did not see a mouse device. Also I ran the
mouseconfig command and chose cua0 as the device.
The serial port is on a VLB DTC 2278Ecard. I also have a Teac55A CDROM on an
interface card, using address 230. I don't think it uses an IRQ, and I have
had the systemWindows 3.11 once with both the CDROM and the mouse port (Com1)
. I tried switching to a new serial mouse, but no luck.
How should I approach this problem? Should I disable the serial port 1 on the
DTC controller card and install an old serial card I have lying around? And
how hard would it be to install and configure the serial card under Linux? Is
there a way to see what resources are being used in Linux?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
James
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From: "Michael.Creasy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: iomega atapi zip under RH5.2
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 19:46:02 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What Raymond is missing is that this is a problem with an ATAPI zip,
that is an INTERNAL one, not the EXTERNAL parellel port model which is a
completely different subject.
To clarify - SCSI support is not needed for the ATAPI INTERNAL zip to
work.
Michael
Raymond Doetjes wrote:
>
> I don't agree, I have SCSI support for my ppa and it works!!! -> They wrote this in
>the
> howto's
> I can only mount it as an sd device. I don't even have atapi support cause I do
> everything on SCSI except for my parallel ZIP drive. Beside the ZIP drive ppa.o is a
> IEEE SCSI standard (I checked out the code myself).
>
> Raymond
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From: Raymond Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rpm available for Rasmol 2.6??
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:55:17 +0100
What does rasmol???? I should have a look It sounds familar.
Raymond
Andrew T. Phillips wrote:
> Does anyone have an rpm for Rasmol 2.6? I can't get it to compile
> with my Redhat 5.2 system.
>
> Thanks!
> Andy Phillips
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Sanders)
Subject: Re: WWW: Star Office Discussion Forum
Reply-To: Michael Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:47:54 GMT
On Tue, 19 Jan 1999 01:24:35 GMT, DRLev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
>
>A discussion forum for Star Division's StarOffice product has been created
>at:
>
>http://www.delphi.com/staroff
>
Since the poster provided a fake address, and participation in this
"Discussion Forum" apparently requires providing personal information to
delphi.com, I wonder if this was an appropriate posting.
--
(T.) Michael Sanders internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Physics Department URL: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~sanders
University of Michigan phone: 734/936-0799
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1120 FAX: 734/764-6843
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.applixware
Subject: Applix/ELF bug workaround needed in charting
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:42:16 GMT
I have Linux Office 99 (e.g. Applix 4.4.1) running on my RedHat Linux 5.2
system, and am running into the following problem: I select "Record Macro"
from the main menu (that first window you get when things start up). I then
start the spreadsheet, enter some numbers, select them, create a chart and
double-click on that chart. Graphics comes up, and I then File->Export the
image to GIF.
This all works, but when I save the macro and run it from the command-line
(e.g. "applix -macro mymacroname"), Graphics gives me an error, saying that
it cannot export the image. The Graphics window at this point is blank, but
if I close it, and double-click on the chart, I can save the image manually.
I've checked the ELF code, and it calls SS_SELECT_CHART@, and then
SS_START_INSET@ on the chart. The file that SS_START_INSET@ is given seems to
never get created. Is the SS_SELECT_CHART@ failing? It does not appear to be
selected when I get the error, but it's tough to watch everything as if goes
by quickly.
Any ideas? Applixware? Anyone?
-AJS
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rick Walker)
Subject: Re: having no /etc/fstab is not nice! -- please help
Date: 20 Jan 1999 02:51:34 GMT
Michael Phillips ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I can only get in to it as read-only right now. So, how can I create a
: boot disk from this computer of mine which will allow me to make a new
: fstab file?
: When I boot from a disk I have created, I get the option to use linux or
: rescue from lilo. When I choose rescue it asks for a rescue disk. This
: is what I do not have.
You can fix your problem by doing an "upgrade" from the RedHat install
floppy. Just don't select any packages to upgrade. Towards the end of
the process, it will give you a menu for selecting which disks to mount,
and ask you where your root disk is. This'll create a new /etc/fstab,
/etc/lilo.conf, and recreate the boot loader.
Alternatively, if you can run a really simple Linux kernel off the boot
disk then mount your old disk r/o. All your old tools can be found by
typing their path explicitly: "/mnt/sbin/...". If you can mount your
CDROM under a simple kernel, then you can look in /mnt/cdrom/images/* to
find the images for a rescue disk. You can then cp or dd these images
over to /dev/floppy and you're ready to go.
I don't understand why the boot floppy only lets you mount your old
root partition r/o. I hope you are not trying to mount it at "/". You
should mount it at /mnt, and use the full path for fixing things:
/mnt/usr/bin/vi /mnt/etc/fstab
In the future, make your rescue floppies and have them ready to go in
a safe place.
As a final option, you can download "toms root/boot" system at
http://www.toms.net/rb/ This will suffice as a one-disk universal rescue
system.
Best regards,
--
Rick Walker
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From: Steve Sorden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.list,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: RHLinux "Deluxe" vs 'regular' RHL 5.2
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:34:50 -0700
I bought the deluxe version, thinking I was purchasing the official Red
Hat product. I didn't realize that it had different tech support until I
tried to register this weekend at Red Hat's web site.
Although I'm satisfied with the CDs and manual, my question is whether
Red Hat makes any money off these sales (to support on-going research
and development), or is MacMillan taking advantage of the Open License
and simply trying to make outrageous profit off of free software? My
package listed at $40, although I didn't pay that due to a rebate.
Also, I believe Red Hat provides 90 days of tech support, while
Macmillan only provides 30.
Steve Sorden
Harold K L Ting wrote:
>
> It appears that the 'deluxe' version is a Macmillan press product, not Redhat's
> and therefore is not supported by Redhat. It says so on the CD jacket.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > officemax has the deluxe for "free after rebates"! get it before its gone
> >
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andy Wendel) wrote:
> > > On Fri, 1 Jan 1999 04:58:50 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Hsieh) wrote:
> > > I just bought the Deluxe version today, and there certainly was a
> > > floppy in the package... as well as a hard copy, bound book, and 3
> > > cds... I tried 3 different times to d/l rh5.2, as well as the suse and
> > > debian releases, and never managed to get them to install properly.
> > > The only install I ever got running well was the Slackware install,
> > > and it was a pain to do some things with... (I am too lazy to bother
> > > with figuring out all the stuff in advance). Figuring all the time I
> > > have involved with the d/ls, failed installs and hours of frustration,
> > > I think the 39.95 is well spent.
> > >
> > >
> >
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install;
Subject: Re: NT & RHL 5.2
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:54:44 GMT
How about
1. add a small dos partition to the second disk (linux disk )
2. get a boot strap from the linux partition and place it in the root of the
small dos partition
[if /dev/hdb2 was your linux partition on the second disk]
use:
dd if=/dev/hdb2 of=/bootsect.lnx bs=512 count=1
copy the file bootsect.lnx to the root of the dos partition
3. add a line [assuming D: is the second drive]
D:\bootsect.lnx="Linux"
to the file boot.ini in the root of the NT drive
(remove the system and hidded attribs first)
Havn't done this but it works nicely with one disk
Jayson Lorenzen
In article <77idau$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (THOMAS J. STIEHM) wrote:
> I don't believe this can be done. But if you install Linux and LILO
> after NT they will play nicely with the NT 4.01 Boot Loader.
>
> Tom
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> : I would like ot make the NT 4.01 Boot Loader aware of a RHL 5.2 partition on
> : another HDD. I want ot be able to use the NT BL instesd of LILO, can this
be
> : done?
>
> : Thanks
> : MJT
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Festus van Landingham)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.misc,comp.emacs,comp.editors
Subject: Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 01:55:06 GMT
Johan Kullstam wrote:
>it's hard to find a keyboard with the keys labelled as such theses
>days. on the other hand, it is very easy to remap the keys. in X use
>xmodmap to swap caps lock and control. in console mode, there is a
>keyboard map file (in /usr/lib/kbd/ somewhere i believe. hack the
>`us' keymap to swap caps lock and control).
>
>i too use emacs. i even remapped the keys on windows nt since i use
>emacs at work too.
Do emacs users not type captial letters or does emacs not support
capital letters?
--
Festus v.L.
Drop the "X" from my address to send me e-mail.
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From: Yan Seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: securing a linux box
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 21:22:34 -0500
Thanks for all the advice. My first attempt at security knocked everyone
off the network... A real secure system :-o
I now have a somewhat different problem: I am trying to connect to my
network across the internet. I can do so by opening up the netbios ports in
the firewall, and relying on tcpd and samba to prevent unauthorized access.
This scares me, as any info would flow accross the internet unencrypted.
I can't prevent access via hosts.deny and allow very well, as one of those
who needs to connect is on aol, and allowing .aol.com access to my network
gives me the shivers.
What are my risks with this? Is it something I should forget doing? How
can I secure the netbios ports?
Yan
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From: Michael Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: having no /etc/fstab is not nice! -- please help
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 21:38:19 -0600
Reply-To: Michael Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Thanks Rick, but I should explain more:
The boot disk I have starts booting and then gives me a linux or rescue
option.
If I choose linux, it boots from the hard drive which has no
fstab, and mounts the root drive as ro.
If I choose rescue and hit enter, it gives crc errors and the like ad
infinitum.
I tried to mount the cdrom with the command:
mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
I got this:
mount: /dev/cdrom has wrong device number or fs type iso9660 not supported
I am not sure of the correct procedure to create a new root/boot disk, and
it looks like this is what I need to do.
Thanks for your help,
--Michael
On 20 Jan 1999, Rick Walker wrote:
> Michael Phillips ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> : I can only get in to it as read-only right now. So, how can I create a
> : boot disk from this computer of mine which will allow me to make a new
> : fstab file?
>
> : When I boot from a disk I have created, I get the option to use linux or
> : rescue from lilo. When I choose rescue it asks for a rescue disk. This
> : is what I do not have.
>
> You can fix your problem by doing an "upgrade" from the RedHat install
> floppy. Just don't select any packages to upgrade. Towards the end of
> the process, it will give you a menu for selecting which disks to mount,
> and ask you where your root disk is. This'll create a new /etc/fstab,
> /etc/lilo.conf, and recreate the boot loader.
>
> Alternatively, if you can run a really simple Linux kernel off the boot
> disk then mount your old disk r/o. All your old tools can be found by
> typing their path explicitly: "/mnt/sbin/...". If you can mount your
> CDROM under a simple kernel, then you can look in /mnt/cdrom/images/* to
> find the images for a rescue disk. You can then cp or dd these images
> over to /dev/floppy and you're ready to go.
>
> I don't understand why the boot floppy only lets you mount your old
> root partition r/o. I hope you are not trying to mount it at "/". You
> should mount it at /mnt, and use the full path for fixing things:
>
> /mnt/usr/bin/vi /mnt/etc/fstab
>
> In the future, make your rescue floppies and have them ready to go in
> a safe place.
>
> As a final option, you can download "toms root/boot" system at
> http://www.toms.net/rb/ This will suffice as a one-disk universal rescue
> system.
>
> Best regards,
> --
> Rick Walker
>
>
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From: "Ciaran Dunn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 08:48:12 +1100
jedi wrote in message ...
>On Tue, 19 Jan 1999 03:27:40 -0600, Michael Lee Yohe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
[snip]
>>that Windows makes it easy for an idiot to use the computer. It _is_ that
>>Windows takes the re-inventing of the wheel out of programming. It's
called
>>"maximum efficiency". And, it's being carried out by all types of OSes -
>>following of course by an obvious excellent example.
>>
>>Linux is touching base with this - libc is that approach. MacOS has
touched
>>base with this over the years but only until recently provided a
>>standardized development library for the OS. And so on and so forth.
>>Windows != IdiotOS. Windows == LearnedOS.
>
> GUI's have had API's (one vs several incompatible ones) for
> quite some time now. The concept of the API itself is fairly
> ancient and is nothing special for being applied to GUI's.
>
> Windows is nothing at all new in this respect.
Indeed. And I must add as a person that makes a living writing
Win32 code in C/C++, MFC, OWL, Delphi, VB et al. that I find it
simply stunning that someone thinks there is very much to admire
in the Win32 API ???
Maximum efficency ??? Gimme a break !
Cheers,
Ciaran
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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:28:37 -0700
From: Darryl Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LINUX & Encryption technology
> Lidia Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : Hi this may be a dumb question, I want FTP files accross the internet
> : from an NT box to my LINUX box with regularity. My concern is
> : security. I want to encrypt the data but don't know of any tools to do
> : this.
How about SSHD2?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Brown)
Subject: Re: Linux vs SolarisX86
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 19 Jan 1999 21:17:20 GMT
On 18 Jan 1999 08:14:48 PST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>We are considering our options for porting our current
>products from Sun/Solaris platforms to PC platforms.
>One option is to use either Linux or SolarisX86 on
>the PC's, for hopefully minor software changes.
>
>It would be useful to know the pros/cons of using
>SolarisX86 rather than Linux in this situation. Can
>anyone help me out?
well, it's odd that you didn't post this to a solaris newsgroup. That being
said...
Obviously, the least amount of work for you will be to support solaris x86, it
should be a trivial recompile. In other words, ZERO code change.
In the event that you decide to also support linux, I would advise you to keep
developing on solaris, and do builds on linux. The reason being that code on
Linux seems to creep towards absorbing linux-specific code hooks. Code
developed under solaris is more likely to compile on both, presuming you are
not doing anything lower level than read() and write() stuff
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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:53:58 -0600
From: Ted Staberow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: tstaber@no!spam.ibm.net
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.unix,comp.os.unix.misc,comp.unix,comp.unix.i386
Subject: Re: UNIX - Who, What, Where?
Hi Stressed,
You may be unclear on Unix but you don't seem to have a problem with
cross-posting! In the future you may want to curb that a bit; it is rather bad
form. Your questions were.......
> I have been reading about UNIX and Linux recently and have set up a practice
> RHL machine. I see many suggestions that I should obtain Linux (or another
> variant) because it's free, it's easy, etc., etc., etc. I just came across
> another article saying, "Linux is great because its free and it uses similar
> command and directory structures as other flavors ...". Similar to what,
> exactly?
The only thing that can be called Linux is the kernel and its module's. The
rest of the OS is based on sources that may well be used in commercial Unix.
Unix was developed by Bell Labs in the 1970s to be used as a general purpose
operating system. I guess it was used to run large telephony switches and R&D
systems initially. AT&T could not market Unix by law because of their monopoly
status so they gave it away to universities (mostly as a tax write off) for
further development. That is how BSD came to be. U.C. Berkeley created a
variant of Unix based on some early source code. Current BSD products (Like
FreeBSD) are no longer based on any original AT&T code. All current Unix
variants are very similar though not identical. Because of these
similarities, good Unix administrators can learn to administer unfamiliar
systems fairly quickly. Linux is similar enough to Unix to be considered a
Unix (in manner of use) but does not carry any legal markings to that effect.
>
> I am wondering what the heck "UNIX" is. I mean _real_, unadulterated,
> up-to-date, commercial grade, UNIX - THE Operating System.
>
There is no 'The Unix OS' . Officially, Unix is a trademark used by a family
of OSs from different vendors that contain varying degrees of AT&T source
code. The cost of licensing this name and source code is rather high and
vendors usually bundle the OS with pricey hardware. These bundles are
typically very robust and stable.
> Is there any advantage to using UNIX vs Linux?
>
This depends entirely on the application. I can't see spending $50,000 on a
Sparc Station just to do word processing and web browsing. Likewise I can't
see trying to setup a Linux box to handle 2000 local and dial up users who need
to access an enterprise wide database. This will be possible some day, but not
just yet.
>
> How much is it on average, and how and where might one "get" it?
Generally speaking you can't just buy Unix. Vendors tend to sell complete
systems.
> What machines will it run on?
Unix and it's clones have been ported to run on systems from Apples to Dec
Vaxes. There is even a Linux port that runs on the 8086.
>
> Can I get an x86 version?
Of Unix? Yes, Sun and SCO are two that come to mind. Once Intel's Merced
chip is released Unix will run on the same systems that Windows runs on. Bill
is not looking forward to that :-)
>
Ted Staberow
Prairie Networking, Inc.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: AutoPPP and pppd server
Date: 19 Jan 1999 15:28:09 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Alan Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On the dialer side, TCP/IP is the only protocol requested. On the Linux
> side, mgetty takes the call and PAP validates the user successfully, but
> then the caller drops the session almost immediately.
Check what you have in /etc/ppp/options. Make sure you have host
and client IP addresses and a netmask specified.
--
Bob Hauck, Software Engineer - Will program for food.
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From: garv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Article - Please help
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:27:48 GMT
Ren wrote:
> Hi,
> I?m an IT bod who does a bit of freelance journalism on the side. I am
> writing an article on Linux for a UK Internet magazine and want to
> feature a few businesses or institutions that are using Linux. What I
I suggest you pick up a copy of Linux Journal, visit their web site at
linuxjournal.com , or check out its publisher at ssc.com.
(You might need a pencil sharpener.)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Subject: Re: Agent under WINE: HELP
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:30:53 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Taylor Sutherland) wrote:
>I just posted another message before about clear windows in Agent, but
>now I have another problem. It seems that all the information about
>groups and whatnot, including the agent.ini file is stuck in my $HOME
>directory rather than $HOME/c/Agent/ from where it was started. Why
>would that be?
Agent uses the current directory to store the ini file and unless you
set up the home directory in the ini file uses the current directory
for data files. Move the ini and data files to $HOME/c/Agent and
then start agent with that directory as the current directory. I have
an alias agent="cd /usr/local/c/agent; wine agent".
HTH
Norman
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason O'Rourke)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: 19 Jan 1999 14:25:19 -0800
Andrew Comech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>never mind patches!!! these are only for those guys
>who want to contribute to checking things which
>are to be/not to be included into later kernels.
>Linux works just fine if you do not even know what
>the word PATCH means. I myself only used this patching
I guess I can now explain why so many company IT groups ban the use of
linux within the company network.
A linux machine that doesn't get patched as needed is an open doorway for
intruders. Linux does not work "just fine" without them. (Not to say
that any other unix can do fine either)
--
Jason O'Rourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.jor.com
'96 BMW r850R
last dive: January 16th, Fire Rock, Carmel. 43 mins at 65ft max.
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Debian and netbase start/stop problems
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 14:16:37 GMT
Dan Nguyen writes:
> Why did you stop netbase? If you change anything with your network
> stuff do a 'killall -HUP inetd'
Which is essentially what "/etc/init.d/netbase stop" does to inetd and
portmap. "/etc/init.d/netbase start" starts inetd and portmap and also
sets up some anti-spoofing stuff.
--
John Hasler This posting is in the public domain.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Do with it what you will.
Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind.
Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address.
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From: David Bubar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Thoughts on file organization
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 16:46:00 -0500
Matthias Warkus wrote:
[snipped]
> Usually, the application installer will take care of putting the binaries in
> /usr(/local)/bin, shared data in /usr(/local)/share, libraries in
> /usr(/local)/lib, manual pages in /usr(/local)/man... etc.
>
> > Where is a good place to put the downloaded
> > source?
>
> In your home directory. If you really don't want to, use /usr/src which
> should be sticky, i.e. writeable for normal users if you stick to your own
> stuff.
>
> > Why can't Linux have a directories called 'diald' created when I
> > install diald?
>
> That's not the philosophy of the file system.
>
[snipped]
Bravo!!!! BTW, if you are using rpm (RedHat, Caldera, Mandrake, or
possibly SuSE??) you can use the command:
rpm -ql pkgname (where pkgname is the name of the package minus such
things as .i386.rpm)
this will give you a complete list of all the files in the package.
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David Bubar http://www.albany.net/~bubar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
LTI http://www.ltionline.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Bloody Viking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.software.year-2000
Subject: Re: 2038 and Linux
Date: 20 Jan 1999 04:27:13 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy John Savard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Of course, in the very short term, building better IA-32 chips is
: indeed the only useful thing to do.
Which means that the Y2K+38 expiry still exists. To work around it, I have
thought of a few ideas, none of which are "elegant".
Method 1: Backdating. Every 56 years, you backdate 56 years, so the date
is 56 years * X off. You keep a file around to record the number of
backdatings To extract a date, the apps check the date then check
/etc/backdate. A refinement of course is a once in 56 years cron job to
auto-backdate. Beware of the Y2.1K problem. :) (Not a leap year.) If I
need to, this is most likely my method of choice for my computers.
Method 2: Unsugning time_t. Time_t is a signed integer. You could make it
unsigned at least in theory. Anyone try this? An alternative is to make it
a double, a floating point double, etc. Slows the system, but nicer than
backdating. An unsigned integer only delays the inevitable of having to
backdate by some long time.
Method 3: A perpetual calendar routine. The years repeat themselves every
400 years in the Gregorian pattern. You could use Y2K as a reference date
and design a routine that backdates as above, but backdates funny at
Y2.1K, Y2.2K, and Y2.3K then at Y2.4K reverts to Y2K. Of course, you need
that goofy /etc/backdate file to remember the config for apps to use.
Again, you can use a goofy cron job.
Method 4: Use a DEC Alpha or other 64 bit CPU. :) For those of you who
have the money, this is the best solution. Those of us on low budgets,
it's time to impliment the backdating crap.
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