Linux-Misc Digest #697, Volume #26 Wed, 3 Jan 01 10:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: Hidden gnome taskbar. ("Peter Heckert")
Step-by step to install Linux RH7 and Win98. (gataway)
Re: Reinstall Win98 (Heinz Rawe)
Re: Mount FAT32 vol in read/write for non-root users? ("Lloyd Llewellyn")
Re: Step-by step to install Linux RH7 and Win98. (Robert Kiesling)
Re: Multiple e-mail "identities" under a single Linux user account? (kristian
ragndahl)
Re: Is nfs incompatible with proper use of a UPS? ("Elliot and Else Gingold")
Re: samba password issue. (Tobias Schenk)
Re: Is nfs incompatible with proper use of a UPS? (Robert Kiesling)
Re: help getting started (Jonathan A.)
Re: Strange passwd (Martin)
Re: lilo with new kernel don't work (alex k)
StartOffice on RH 7.0 ("Sudhakar R.")
Re: Decompressing a .tgz file ("D. Stimits")
Re: Is nfs incompatible with proper use of a UPS? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Matrox AGP G450 on Redhat 7 - Can't get X to Start ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Kpilot (Robert Ober)
Issues with setup new computer with netgear cards? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: telnet screen color (Bosco Tsang)
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From: "Peter Heckert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hidden gnome taskbar.
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 11:22:31 +0100
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Im Artikel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb
"kristian ragndahl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Thaddeus L Olczyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> : >Panel -> Properties -> Hiding policy
>
> : What an idiot!
>
> Happy new year to you too.
>
> : I supose you know what the word *front* means?
> : If so, why are you suggesting something that doesn't pull it front
> but
> : leaves it in back of everything else?
>
> Sorry for missunderstanding your problem. Perhaps you could try remove
> Panel -> Global Preferences -> Miscellaneous -> Keep panel below
> windows?
>
Thank you so much,Kristian!
I have looked for this too, and already had resigned,when I couldnt
find it at "hiding policy".
Happy 2001,
Peter
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Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 18:26:03 +0800
From: gataway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Step-by step to install Linux RH7 and Win98.
I'm going to setup a new system with two ATA 100 harddisk, one for win
98 the other for Linux RH7.I'm planning to have BootMAgic and Partition
Magic install .
So which OS do i install first? And what partition is needed for noth
win98SE and Linux? Can i have and exmaple of how much space for each
partition? I will
Install most of the application and games on win98SE ,as for linux i am
a newbie still
need to explore more about it.Kindly give me a senerio on what to do.
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From: Heinz Rawe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Reinstall Win98
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 20:06:08 +0000
Hi Eric,
> I have a dual boot machine (Win98/Linux), but recently something
> is wrong with Win98, so I want to re-install it.
> After I re-install it, do I have to use floppy to boot my Linux
> and re-run LILO ?
Yes, You have to re-run lilo. M$-Win98 will overwrite the mbr without
any inquiry.
Don`t You have a bootable CD-ROM and a linux-installation-CD? If so, use
it to start Your System and re-install lilo.
--
Gruss/Regards
Heinz
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From: "Lloyd Llewellyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mount FAT32 vol in read/write for non-root users?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 11:33:38 GMT
> /dev/hda1 /windows vfat user,exec,conv=binary,rw,umask=000 0 0
That did it, thanks!
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Step-by step to install Linux RH7 and Win98.
From: Robert Kiesling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 11:48:58 GMT
gataway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'm going to setup a new system with two ATA 100 harddisk, one for win
> 98 the other for Linux RH7.I'm planning to have BootMAgic and Partition
> Magic install .
> So which OS do i install first? And what partition is needed for noth
> win98SE and Linux? Can i have and exmaple of how much space for each
> partition? I will
> Install most of the application and games on win98SE ,as for linux i am
> a newbie still
> need to explore more about it.Kindly give me a senerio on what to do.
Refer to the HOWTO's at http://www.linuxdoc.org/. They provide basic
material that describes all permutations of MS and Linux dual-boot
computers.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (kristian ragndahl)
Subject: Re: Multiple e-mail "identities" under a single Linux user account?
Date: 3 Jan 2001 12:08:18 GMT
* Kousik Nandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: > when I reply to a message, I want the reply message to as
: > my return e-mail address the same address to which the
: > original message was addressed, and then also use the outgoing
: > mail server associated with that e-mail address. Does
: > anyone know how to do this?
:
: Don't know if Balsa can do this; but surely `Pine Roles' are
: what you're looking for! If you don't mind text based tools, try
: pine http://www.washington.edu/pine/ and its roles support.
You can't change "outgoing mail server" with roles in Pine.
--
kristian ragndahl, http://www.ragndahl.cx/
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From: "Elliot and Else Gingold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is nfs incompatible with proper use of a UPS?
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 23:59:43 +1100
"Jean-David Beyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> >
> I run two machines with APC Smart-UPS UPSs. Since each of my machines is
> on its own UPS, and since my nfs setup is very simple (the one that
> would power down first is a sink of nfs, not a source), there is little
> problem. I use APC's PowerChute software.
>
> What I should do is power both machines from the same UPS and tell
> PowerChute that I am doing that. PowerChute looks at the UPS every 2
> seconds to see if everything is OK, and if not, it does its powerdown
> thing. It is capable of notifying the other machine through the LAN so
> they can both shut down at once.
>
> If some of your machines are on a UPS and some not, then too bad for
> those that are not, since they will crash down before the UPS on the
> other machines can do anything about it.
To be more detailed about our situation, the main problem is 3 local
servers, each with users home directories, used by 3 distinct groups. They
are, in effect, group servers. But their home directories have to be mounter
on at least one of our main servers. This is because the main servers
include the web service, and hence allow personal pages to be mounted
(~user), and our mail server which also requires assess to home directories
(for example .forward files). Also users can only ftp to the central server
(for security reasons) and thus get to their files from off-site. The other
central servers are less of a problem as even though they also contain home
directories, they will also be under UPS control.
The problem is not that of the local servers, they will have to take their
chances if there is a power outage, but of the central servers, and in
particular the ftp/http one. Because even though it is protected by a UPS,
it will not be able to shut down cleanly: it will hang waiting to umount the
nfs drives until the UPS backup fails!
I know it is not fashionable to say this, but problems like this will slow
the uptake of Linux in larger installations. It is all very well to say try
coda etc., but nfs is the standard method of sharing filesystems in Linux
and it does seem that it runs into problems with a UPS setup. And using a
UPS in an nfs environment does not seem to be a too big ask.
Note that even with all servers on a UPS, you would still have to carefully
set timings such that the nfs clients go down before the servers (in this
case the central systems before the local ones). Cross-mounting could not be
accomodated.
Elliot
>
> --
> .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
> /V\ Registered Machine 73926.
> /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
> ^^-^^ 8:45am up 1 day, 23:01, 2 users, load average: 2.06, 2.05, 2.00
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From: Tobias Schenk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: samba password issue.
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 14:04:11 +0100
On Tue, 2 Jan 2001 23:25:38 -0000, "Darren S Paxton"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>also, tweak your windows registry to allow it to send plain passwords, and
>this will allow the linux server to recognise your username
I dont recommend that. Instead of unsing plain pwds you should make
win95 use encrypted ones and set 'encrypted passwords=yes' in
smb.conf.
Of course you have to maintain the smbpasswd file for authenticating.
Samba makes no use of /etc/passwd. Perhaps you can set an option like
'smbpasswd=/etc/passwd' or so in smb.conf. But I get along very well
using smbpasswd.
Have you ever found this very detailed online-book available for
download at www.samba.org . I think this would answer you a lot of
your questions and beyond that gives you a full list of smb.conf
options, etc.
Hope that helps,
Tobias Schenk
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Subject: Re: Is nfs incompatible with proper use of a UPS?
From: Robert Kiesling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 13:15:54 GMT
"Elliot and Else Gingold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "Jean-David Beyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
>
> > >
> > I run two machines with APC Smart-UPS UPSs. Since each of my machines is
> > on its own UPS, and since my nfs setup is very simple (the one that
> > would power down first is a sink of nfs, not a source), there is little
> > problem. I use APC's PowerChute software.
> >
> > What I should do is power both machines from the same UPS and tell
> > PowerChute that I am doing that. PowerChute looks at the UPS every 2
> > seconds to see if everything is OK, and if not, it does its powerdown
> > thing. It is capable of notifying the other machine through the LAN so
> > they can both shut down at once.
> >
> > If some of your machines are on a UPS and some not, then too bad for
> > those that are not, since they will crash down before the UPS on the
> > other machines can do anything about it.
>
> To be more detailed about our situation, the main problem is 3 local
> servers, each with users home directories, used by 3 distinct groups. They
> are, in effect, group servers. But their home directories have to be mounter
> on at least one of our main servers. This is because the main servers
> include the web service, and hence allow personal pages to be mounted
> (~user), and our mail server which also requires assess to home directories
> (for example .forward files). Also users can only ftp to the central server
> (for security reasons) and thus get to their files from off-site. The other
> central servers are less of a problem as even though they also contain home
> directories, they will also be under UPS control.
>
> The problem is not that of the local servers, they will have to take their
> chances if there is a power outage, but of the central servers, and in
> particular the ftp/http one. Because even though it is protected by a UPS,
> it will not be able to shut down cleanly: it will hang waiting to umount the
> nfs drives until the UPS backup fails!
>
> I know it is not fashionable to say this, but problems like this will slow
> the uptake of Linux in larger installations. It is all very well to say try
> coda etc., but nfs is the standard method of sharing filesystems in Linux
> and it does seem that it runs into problems with a UPS setup. And using a
> UPS in an nfs environment does not seem to be a too big ask.
>
> Note that even with all servers on a UPS, you would still have to carefully
> set timings such that the nfs clients go down before the servers (in this
> case the central systems before the local ones). Cross-mounting could not be
> accomodated.
This is one common complaint about NFS. Refer to the mount
and fstab man pages, and you should be able to figure out
how to ignore errors.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan A.)
Subject: Re: help getting started
Date: 3 Jan 2001 07:53:41 -0600
On Tue, 2 Jan 2001 15:01:40 +0100, saint <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi.
>I am a Windows user and would like to get into that whole linux thing......
>Now what I need is a dumbass-foolproof guide how to install linux (i.e.
>which distribution, where/what to download, how to install).
http://www.slackware.com/zipslack/
Worked for me. Installs on a DOS partition... so you can learn
the workings of Linux without repartitioning and all that...
then, when you're ready to migrate, you can simply make a Linux
partition and copy everything onto it.
My 2 cents says it's the best way for a Win9x user to get
introduced to Linux.
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From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Strange passwd
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 21:49:05 +0800
Marble Head ¼g¤J¡G
> I agree with everyone else -- It's a terrible idea to eliminate passwords,
> in nearly all situations. However, if you really know what you're doing
> (which you probably don't, if you asked this question) then...
> Simply edit your /etc/passwd file (or /etc/shadow) and remove the jibberish
>
> that comes in between the first : and the second : characters.
>
Thanks for any comments on my question, actually I need to do so because I am
running a program that needs an linux user without password to access, and
this linux user will do things on the fly, password will terminate the
program process, and then I made this decision.
And I accept all you said that password is important, but not for all cases,
and I am sure I will no any problem to do so, and actually I KNOW WHAT I AM
DOING...
Finally, I solved the problem by myself, and I want to say is that please do
not try to GUESS somebody doing something is correct or not before you make
any comments.
Thanks anyway!
Martin.
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From: alex k <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lilo with new kernel don't work
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 13:46:50 GMT
> This is probably a partitioning problem. The new kernel is probably
located
> at or above cylinder 1024. Does your disk have a separate /boot
partition
> which is below cylinder 1024?
yes it actually does. at least a logical one,
hda5 15M.
and it worked alright in my last install.
that was ALSO slack7.1...
weird, and it didn't complain when i wanted
to switch to a new kernel (2.2.17).
i just don't get why it starts complaining
only after i try running lilo with the new
2.2.18 kernel...
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From: "Sudhakar R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: StartOffice on RH 7.0
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:56:33 -0500
I have tried installing the StarOffice .bin using the /net option which I
downloaded from sun.com
Firstly, the /net option does not seem to be recognized by the setup
program 'coz it does the same even without the /net option.
Once I have installed staroffice as root in /usr/local/ , I login as a
user and run soffice..it gives me a message saying that soffice is already
installed and that i need to deinstall it first and reinstall again. This
I believe is due the fact that this is the Single user installation.
Could someone tell me how I can install staroffice in the network
installation. Essentially I want to install the base staroffice in
/usr/local and each user should have his custom files in his home
directory.
Any help will be appreciated.
-sudhakar
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Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 07:27:05 -0700
From: "D. Stimits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Decompressing a .tgz file
mike wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I would like to know specifically how to decompress
>
> a file like: hello.tgz
>
> Thanks
> Mike
This is the same as hello.tar.gz. First you gunzip, than you use tar.
There are command line options to tar to do this in one step, but here
is a representation of what it is:
gunzip < hello.tgz | tar xvf -
(this has the advantage of leaving the original compressed)
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is nfs incompatible with proper use of a UPS?
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:30:54 +0100
Elliot and Else Gingold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The problem is not that of the local servers, they will have to take their
> chances if there is a power outage, but of the central servers, and in
> particular the ftp/http one. Because even though it is protected by a UPS,
> it will not be able to shut down cleanly: it will hang waiting to umount the
> nfs drives until the UPS backup fails!
I don't see the problem. You know about the options "soft" and "intr"
for NFS (v2)? And about ipalias? When a server goes down, use fuser
-muvk on that filesystem. If the mount is still stuck, ipalias for the
server and umount the FS then.
> I know it is not fashionable to say this, but problems like this will slow
> the uptake of Linux in larger installations. It is all very well to say try
This is an error in the administrator, not in linux.
> coda etc., but nfs is the standard method of sharing filesystems in Linux
> and it does seem that it runs into problems with a UPS setup. And using a
I don't actually see what the problem is. Can you be more specific?
Or just clearer! I.e. write short paras with spaces between treating of
just one subject ...
> UPS in an nfs environment does not seem to be a too big ask.
> Note that even with all servers on a UPS, you would still have to carefully
> set timings such that the nfs clients go down before the servers (in this
Why? What's the problem with clients goping down before servers. It
happens all the time in my labs, and nobody complains about anything.
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Matrox AGP G450 on Redhat 7 - Can't get X to Start
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 14:37:18 GMT
I'm getting the same problem with a Sony TFT CPD-L181A - it locks up
the Xconfigurator although I did see Xwindows mode start at 800x600 8-
bit color. the machine froze,but at least I saw blue. the forums at
matrox have been talking about it, but not sure how to recompile 4.01
even if that's necessary..
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Subject: Kpilot
From: Robert Ober <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 09:07:19 -0600
Hi all,
Anyone get Kpilot to run on Corel Version 2? If so, how?
Thanks,
Robert A.Ober
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Issues with setup new computer with netgear cards?
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 14:47:30 GMT
Issues with setup new computer with netgear cards?
I use to have Redhat 7.0 running on my old computer with two netgear
cards in it. One was for my cable ISP (using DHCP) and the other one
was for my local network (using TCP/IP).
After installing Redhat 7.0 on my new computer I logged in and
everything was great. I think remove network card number 1 (cabel card)
from my old computer and installed it into my new computer and reboot.
everything worked great. I can access the internet. I then removed
the 2nd card from my old card and installed in the new computer. Now
redhat give me a error on the first card tell me that it card find the
IP address??
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From: Bosco Tsang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.general
Subject: Re: telnet screen color
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 14:48:46 GMT
They have added color to vt100 by default as well, in RedHat 6.2 which the
use of alias defined in profile.d. This isn't an issue in the old Redhat 4.2
or 5.1 age. May be they expected that everyone is working on console with
Color monitor :(
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"Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bosco Tsang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I am using VT100 emulation to connect ...anywhere I can set it to disable
> > coloring ...or is it in termcap (How?)?
>
> setenv TERM to something that doesn't say it has colorization; like
> "vt100". Or tell whatever you are using to not use colours. I presume
> you are talking about "ls"? Man ls. Option -o.
>
> Peter
>
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