Linux-Misc Digest #700, Volume #18 Wed, 20 Jan 99 07:13:16 EST
Contents:
Re: Lilo Pbs ... (Hans van Zijst)
Cannot talk to /dev/cua1, which is a modem (and NOT a winmodem). (Christopher Bruce)
Re: /dev/dsp What the.... ("Michael Lee Yohe")
Re: Linux + FreeBSD problem (Alexander Viro)
Re: SpreadSheets (Christopher Browne)
Getting Pine to Use a Different From ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
2.2.0pre mounting cdrom (Frank Hale)
Quota for printing? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: mp3 decoder (Julien.Soula)
Re: RedHat 5.1 default security. (David Fox)
i need to crack one icq password... HELP ("Winston")
Red Hat 5.2 and Laptops (Thomas Gil)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. ("Michael Lee Yohe")
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. ("Michael Lee Yohe")
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Andres Soolo)
Re: which distribution package do you recommend? ("Anthony W. Youngman")
Q: Voice control for LINUX (Zuehl Joachim)
Re: Linux Friendly ISP ("James D. McIninch")
Re: Which is the best colour printer for Linux? (Ethan A Merritt)
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From: Hans van Zijst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install,fr.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Lilo Pbs ...
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 03:14:08 +0100
On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Damien Ercole wrote:
> * When I start the RedHat 5.2 installation ..it detects
> only 1024 cylinders (out of the 1232) and thus I only
> have 8Go. To solve this problem I start the
> installation with the parameter hda=1232,255,63 and
> that works fine ....but can anyone tell me why I have
> to pass this argument ?
In some rare cases Linux can't detect the correct geometry of your disk.
I'll get back to this later on...
> * After I have finished the installation, the system
> ask me where I want to put Lilo ... and I answer on
> the MBR of hda. When I reboot to start ..... LILO
> stops right after the first L without any error code
> ... so I don't know what's happening .....
Stopping after the first L usually means a problem with the hard drive
geometry. Be sure to read the LILO-documentation: it might not always be
too interesting, it sure contains a lot of useful information. In
Slackware it's located in /usr/doc/lilo/README.
> Do I put the LILO at the wrong place ? Is there a
> compatibility problem with my Hard Drive ?
Big chance. In some cases (especially when using an "old" BIOS), LILO
can't boot the kernel if it's beyond the first 1024 cylinders. You can
work around this problem by specifying a wrong geometry: divide the number
of cylinders with such a factor that it's 1024 or lower, then multiply the
number of heads by the same factor.
> * The only way I can start is to boot from a floppy..
> then I can access to the partition table :
>
> Part | Type | Size | Mounted as
> -------------------------------------------
> hda1 | Fat32 | 5Go | /DosC
> hda3 | Linux Native | 3Go | /usr/local
> hda5 | Linux Native | 2Go | /
> hda6 | Swap | 127Mo |
>
> - Why isn't there a hda2 ?
That's rather strange indeed... It should be hda1 for DOS, hda2 for Linux
native and hda3 for Linux swap.
> - I use Disk Druid and I can't make a big Linux Native
> partition of 5Go. I have to split in smaller
Try to use fdisk. It's spartan, but it works. Use "h" to find out which
commands you can use. Press "n" to create a new partition. You should now
be asked to create a primary of extended partition. Choose the primary.
Now enter a partition number and the size ("+5000M" would be a reasonable
option). Do the same for the swap partition, but after that, use "t" to
change it to type swap (type 82, if I'm not mistaken). Don't forget to use
"w" to write the new partition table before quitting. And... if everything
else fails, read the manual :)
Good luck.
--
Hans "Woefdram" van Zijst
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ#:14212695
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 23:53:48 +0100
From: Christopher Bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Cannot talk to /dev/cua1, which is a modem (and NOT a winmodem).
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Hi,
Problem of a major kind with my Compaq Presario 1805 in the sense that
the pnpdump doesn't find the modem and the configuration tells me that
the modem is busy when I set everything by hand!
I have <some recent SuSE distribution>, kernel 2.0.35. Using the Compaq
tells me that the modem (which is internal) is on COM2, with the usual
IRQ and port numbers. Running various Windows diagnostics show me
AT-style commands exchanged so I have no reason to beleive that it is a
Winmodem. Also, the diagnostics under Win98 tell me that I am talking to
an NS 16550AN.
Under Linux, no joy trying to talk to the modem on /dev/cua1 whether
via. minicom, kppp, or chat. kppp at least tells me that tcgetattr()
failed.
Usage of setserial ("setserial /dev/cua1 port 0x2F8 irq 3 autoconfig"
followed by "setserial -g /dev/cua1") tells me that the uart is
'unknown'. I have tried setting the UART manullay via. setserial to
16550A, 16550, and the other one (8550?) (I didn't try 16540). None of
these manual settings resulted in any success.
A look at past articles leads me to investigate PNP issues by calling
pnpdump but pnpdump returns "no boards found". I have looked around on
my BIOS (Phoenix) and there is not much evidence of it being PNP aware.
However for what it calls "Serial port A", it offers a choice of Auto,
Disabled or Manual settings (currently set to Auto), but using the BIOS
interface I tried to change to 'manual' and saw the default settings
offered to be were 0x3F8 and IRQ 4 (COM1). The BIOS menus did not give
me any chance to configure COM2 or any "modem". I ended up not saving
any BIOS changes in the course of my investigations.
Can anybody suggest something else for me to try?
Regards
Chris
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From: "Michael Lee Yohe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /dev/dsp What the....
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 03:02:03 -0600
>>>I tried sending a .wav file to the card using:
>>>cat sound.wav > /dev/dsp
>>>and am told that there is no such device or address.
You cannot play WAV files by 'cat'ing them to /dev/dsp. WAV files are
encapsulated RIFF format audio files - meaning the data contained within the
WAV files is stored in a special way - 999 times out of 1000 needing a CODEC
(compressor/decompressor) to be able to play them.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro)
Subject: Re: Linux + FreeBSD problem
Date: 20 Jan 1999 05:45:23 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Gerardo Lamastra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello Everybody!
>
>I have tried to setup a mixed Linux/FreeBSD system, but I was not able
>to make linux mount the FreeBSD partition; I followed the Linux+FreeBSD
>HOWTO but there are some problems when I do the mounting!
Which kernel it is? How did you mount the filesystem? What does
FreeBSD fsck say?
>Here is the error list!
>ufs_read_super: fs_nindir 2048 != 3
>ufs_read_super: fucking Sun blows me
>ufs_read_super: fs last mounted on "/usr"
>ufs_read_super: fs needs fsck
>ufs_read_inode: file too big ino 2 dev 3/8, faking size
>ufs_read_super: inopb 64
>
>After doing so the device is unmountable (device is busy!)
Even with Alt-Sysrq-U ?
Please, post the output of uname -a on the Linux side and
fsck on FreeBSD one. Boot Free into single before fsck, indeed.
--
"You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!"
"Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: SpreadSheets
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 02:01:33 GMT
On Tue, 19 Jan 1999 05:55:26 -0800, Michael Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Sat, 16 Jan 1999 18:30:04 GMT, Mark Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Are there any Spreadsheet programs out there for Linux?
>
>I use applix and xslite4.
There are approximately a dozen "free" spreadsheet systems, and nearly
as many commercial ones. See the URL below for a complete list...
--
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gourmet coffee except that processing is rushed to leave in the insect
larvae. Also sold under the ``Chock Full o' Bugs'' brand name..."
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/spreadsheets.html>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Getting Pine to Use a Different From
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 01:33:03 GMT
I'm attempting to get pine to adjust the name I send from. I'm using
fetchmail to pull messages onto my system, but when I send message it has my
local address in the from field.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (this is the address of my personal computer)
Unfortunately, my system isn't running 24/7 so if people write back to that
address things don't work.
Is there a way to get pine to change my address to my normal email address,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (this is the address of the mail server I use)?
-Jordan
p.s. Thanks to everyone who's helped me. I'm currently using linux for almost
everything. Someday I may even be comfortable wipping NT off my system.
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From: Frank Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 2.2.0pre mounting cdrom
Date: 20 Jan 1999 01:05:43 GMT
I have 2.2.0-pre7-ac7 loaded and when I go to mount a cdrom (ATAPI cd
drive) I sometimes get errors where it says that the CD is corrupted and
it also says that it enables cruft mount option. This error has happened
for me only on 2.2.0pre kernels. This didn't happen on the 2.0.x
kernels.
What does this mean?
It almost never mounts on the first time, meaning the first time when I
boot the system. It will mount but the /mnt/cdrom directory will switch
from a directory to a file. This is really weird, I will umount and
mount again and all will be fine.
It will say this message for any type of CD-ROM be it CD-R or Production
CD.
Here is the error message which prints to dmesg and sometimes to the
screen it is very sparatic when it does it, but it always does it.
ISO 9660 Extensions: Microsoft Joliet Level 3
Warning: defective cdrom. Enabling "cruft" mount option.
Interleaved files not (yet) supported.
File unit size != 0 for ISO file (55296).
ISOFS: changing to secondary root
hdc: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
hdc: DMA disabled
hdc: drive not ready for command
hdc: ATAPI reset complete
ATAPI device hdc:
Error: Unit attention -- (Sense key=0x06)
Power on, reset or bus device reset occurred -- (asc=0x29, ascq=0x00)
Like I said before this didn't happen in the 2.0.x kernels. Could
somebody explain these messages and if I should be worried? I can still
get to my cd's its just sometimes I have to umount and then mount again
for it to work.
Thanx.
--
From: Frank Hale
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ICQ: 7205161
Website: http://www.franksstuff.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Quota for printing?
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:58:37 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi
I've got a small problem, is there anything out there, which can act as a
quota for a printer? I'd like to have knowlegde who is printing how much,
is it possible? I use SuSE Linux 5.3 with the standard lpd.
Cheers
Carsten
Carsten Aulbert +49 (0)531 2337135
G"ottingstra"se 16 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
38106 Braunschweig http://CarstenAulbert.home.pages.de/
Germany
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Julien.Soula)
Subject: Re: mp3 decoder
Date: 20 Jan 1999 12:08:54 +0100
giangy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi
> I'm looking for something to make wav files out of mp3s any ideas???
> Command line would be just great!!! So I can make scripts...
Look at 'mpg123' package :
Mpg123 is a fast, free(for non-commercial use) and portable MPEG audio
player for Unix.
It supports MPEG 1.0/2.0 layers 1, 2 and 3 (those famous "mp3" files).
For full CD quality playback (44 kHz, 16 bit, stereo) a Pentium,
SPARCstation10, DEC Alpha or similar CPU is required. Mono and/or reduced
quality playback (22 kHz or 11 kHz) is even possible on 486 CPUs.
Exists, at least, in RPM and problably in other distributions.
-- Julien ---
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From: d s f o x @ c o g s c i . u c s d . e d u (David Fox)
Subject: Re: RedHat 5.1 default security.
Date: 19 Jan 1999 19:00:39 -0800
"mcv" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> If I add a user to a RedHat 5.1 box, and they telnet to the system, will
> they be able to cause any damage to the system, e.g. - delete files, run
> config programs?
Just an aside, unless you keep up with the security updates a Redhat
5.1 system will have many known exploits. You probably don't have to
give out an account, some cracker will soon break into your system and
damage it anyway.
--
David Fox http://hci.ucsd.edu/dsf xoF divaD
UCSD HCI Lab baL ICH DSCU
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From: "Winston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: i need to crack one icq password... HELP
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 19:00:12 +0800
I heard that to crack the password of an ICQ account, Linux must be used...
I need help to do this cos I don't have such equipment. I need to crack the
password of ICQ #23961492, user nic VAL.This is urgent... have to know what
he is up to before real trouble sets in between us. Please help me!! Thanks
a lot.
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From: Thomas Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Red Hat 5.2 and Laptops
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 12:05:24 +0100
Hello,
I've just bought an old laptop (Compaq Contura 420)
and I'd like to install Red Hat 5.2 or any other Linux distribution
on it.
Unfortunately, there is no CD-ROM. So I've got to install
from my desktop computer through a parallel cable. (Thanks to Samba)
BUT The boot disk of RH5.2 (idem for Mandrake) says:
boot:
Loading ...img Boot failed
Then I've tried to boot with Slackware disks: it WORKS.
But Slackware dosen't propose Samba as an installation option.
So, I'm asking for suggestions or (better) solutions.
Shall I configure my desktop computer as a Nsf server, or have I
got to do everything by disks ???
I thank you by advance for your help.
Tom.
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From: "Michael Lee Yohe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 03:16:58 -0600
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Let's get one thing straight. It's amazing how quickly one is pushed into
the arena as being a Microsoft-worshipper. I merely enjoy being an advocate
of the obvious "losing" side in a mostly-ignorant battle. I will repeat -
my primary operating system is SunOS 5.6. It is UNIX. It is a commerical
flavour of UNIX.
I merely admire what Microsoft has done for the computing industry in terms
of quality of applications (please don't shoot me), the power of
applications (compare Photoshop to Harvard Graphics of 5-10 years ago), and
a unity of programming style (I like the fact that apps have the same
_basic_ behaviour - cut/paste, drag/drop, etc.)
Everyone has their opinions about each subject - and that's the beauty of
humanity. However, when people base their opinions merely on generalization
without fact - it's an absurdity to attempt to insult another's intellect
based on these very weak, dry "facts".
>>Windows has done something what no operating system has been able to
>>accomplish thus far. It provides a powerful environment via API's - all
>>standardized so that programmers can use them, implement them, and produce
>>programs that beat older - thrown together code in all aspects. It's not
>
> They do not. Windows programs are typically overbloated
> overfeatured overcomplicated monstrosities that tend to
> negate the value of a GUI by dispensing with the simplicity
> inherent in older GUI applictions.
Ehem? Define "overbloated". I love it when people quote the extreme left
or the extreme right. Overbloat comes from programmers working
inefficiently. Statically linking libraries.. redudant code.. inefficient
code - everything with "bloat" is OS-independent - not Windows-related. ALL
OSes SUFFER FROM THE PROBLEM DUE TO THE LACK OF DISCIPLINE AMONG
PROGRAMMERS. It's not 100% the OS.
> The need to convince consumers that there is some reason
> to buy this years version of last years version of what is
> essentially a 10 year old program also rather works against
> usability.
Actually - the fact the Windows 98 and NT have produced applications with
greater functionality and usability than any application 10 years ago simply
negates this argument. What do you expect a business to do - cut their own
throats? Microsoft, like MANY other companies, does (most of the time) make
the right moves: it supports its older, aging operating systems as evidenced
by everything they've done so far. However, every company wants its
customers to purchase the latest release of their handiwork. Hell, I could
do everything I want on Windows 3.1 - but do I really want to go back _that_
far? No thanks.
> It's a 3 ring circus with Bill in the center and personal
> use OSes bloated to the point of being larger than older
> big iron ones.
<??> Perhaps you should address your hatred to Bill himself : )
>>that Windows makes it easy for an idiot to use the computer. It _is_ that
>>Windows takes the re-inventing of the wheel out of programming. It's
called
>>"maximum efficiency". And, it's being carried out by all types of OSes -
>>following of course by an obvious excellent example.
>>
>>Linux is touching base with this - libc is that approach. MacOS has
touched
>>base with this over the years but only until recently provided a
>>standardized development library for the OS. And so on and so forth.
>>Windows != IdiotOS. Windows == LearnedOS.
>
> GUI's have had API's (one vs several incompatible ones) for
> quite some time now. The concept of the API itself is fairly
> ancient and is nothing special for being applied to GUI's.
Please - I'm no child when it comes to this. APIs have been around a long
time - granted. So have cars. But, as with cars you have a level of
standards that have helped cars become more efficient and affordable. Like
cars, APIs have needed time to be refined and evolved. Having a few
standard APIs versus many proprietary APIs is a weak comparison - of course
the "few" would win out - in all cases.
> Windows is nothing at all new in this respect.
Of course it's not new - I've never claimed such. What I have said from the
beginning is the Microsoft has done with Windows what no other has - it's
done a damn good job of getting its style and design out to developers and
programmers.
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From: "Michael Lee Yohe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 02:44:05 -0600
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
>Indeed. And I must add as a person that makes a living writing
>Win32 code in C/C++, MFC, OWL, Delphi, VB et al. that I find it
>simply stunning that someone thinks there is very much to admire
>in the Win32 API ???
>
>Maximum efficency ??? Gimme a break !
<ehem>
Sometimes the problem is not within the API's but the programmer. Let's not
start mocking other's opinions. This is beginning to sound like a battle by
Sun versus Microsoft.
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From: Andres Soolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: 20 Jan 1999 11:16:22 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Andres Soolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>DOS defines standard io streams stdaux and stdprn that refer
>>to the serial device (this time it was generally a mouse) and to
> Why would a multitasking OS want to define those? It is
> exceedingly easy to do, but has little value and many
> disadvantages.
Sorry if I didn't make myself clear. I meant just that: these
devices have almost no value for a decent os.
> CP/M definitely did NOT have the "kernel" source code in the
> manual! It did have an example BIOS, the interface between the
As much as I recall, it had. It was for a specific platform, however.
And, it wasn't fully the original Digital Research one.
But I guess both BDOS and the command interpreter were.
On the other hand, it may be that was a product of reverse
engineering. But then again, why did the one who published
it keep all copyright messages?
--
Andres Soolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Below you can see an invisible tagline.
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From: "Anthony W. Youngman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: which distribution package do you recommend?
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 19:56:35 +0000
Reply-To: "Anthony W. Youngman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jerry Lynn Kreps
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>M. Wimmer wrote:
> >
>
>I began with Linux RH 5.0 that came in the back of the book "Learn Linux
>in 24 Hours" by Bill Ball, from SAM's Publishing. It ran very nice. I
>have installed RH 5.2 for myself and several friends. It, too, runs
>very nice. While running RH I saw some info about KDE (an X windows
>client) and loaded the beta-4 version onto RH. VERY NICE! It is what
>WinXX is supposed to be.
>Then, last August, I saw an ad for SuSE 5.3 which would include KDE 1.0
>automatically installed. I decided to try it because of that, and
>because it also came as a subscription for $34 US.
>IMHO, SuSE 5.3 is much easier to operate than RH. YaST is a VERY
>powerful tool to add or remove software and to change the system
>parameters. I'm looking forward to SuSE 6.0. When it comes I am having
>a License burning! I will be reclaiming the 800MB I reserved to dual
>boot Win95. I have replaced all the Win95 software that was important
>to me (Quicken, SkyMap, Mathcad 7.0 and some others) with Linux based
>apps. Reformatting both my HD's and installing ONLY SuSE 6.0 is going
>to be a very exiting and happy moment!
>
I began with Slack (installing on a 386 with floppies - slack is VERY
MUCH the best under those circumstances :-), moved on to RH4.2, and am
now very happy with SuSE5.2. Currently waiting for SuSE 6.1, which I
assume will be available very shortly after kernel 2.2. SuSE 6.0 is out
now, but I believe only in German. As I think the original poster was
from Austria that is probably fine.
I agree with the comments about YaST (German over-engineering and all
that as I remember another poster say :-)
--
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From: Zuehl Joachim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Q: Voice control for LINUX
Date: 19 Jan 1999 12:32:24 GMT
Hi Guys!
I want to control my computer ,running under LINUX, via voice.
Does anyone know if such a voice control software exists??
Maybe someone knows how to read in voice data via microphone
into the LINUX box (or where I may get more information).
Please send a mail to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
because I have rare time to sit in front of the screen :((((
Thanks and regards,
yours
Hauke
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From: "James D. McIninch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Friendly ISP
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 22:34:07 -0500
I very heartily recommend Mindspring (my ISP). They even have a
section of their online tech support about how to setup PPP, etc.
(albeit online, sort of a catch 22).
Incidentally, if you go with Mindspring, make sure to let them
know I sent you, [EMAIL PROTECTED] :) .
Steven Rudolph wrote:
>
> Which of the national (North America) ISPs are friendly to Linux?
> Earthlink?, Mindspring?, Worldnet? etc.
> Thanks.
--
James D. McIninch
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ethan A Merritt)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Which is the best colour printer for Linux?
Date: 19 Jan 1999 21:31:26 GMT
In article <77vaad$5kj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Phil Adamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In uk.comp.os.linux Phillip Deackes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>: Is there an affordable colour postsript printer? Would postcript
>: printers necessarily give better quality printing? Is there any printer
>: manufacturer actually considering producing a Linux printer driver?
>
>If you get a colour postscript printer, then the quality will be all down
>to the printer - there won't be any OS dependencies or ghostscript
>colour-isn't-quite-right problems, as you just send postscript to the
>printer, and it deals with it.
You make it sound as if this would be desirable. It is at best a mixed
blessing. Just consider for a moment: which has more CPU power to throw
at creating an optimal mapping of PostScript code onto 300dpi colored
dots, the 400 MHz chip in your CPU box or the who-knows-what in a
cheap color printer? Clearly your CPU can do a better job of it given
adequate software, and ghostscript is more than adequate in this case.
It is easy enough to compare by sending the same PostScript file two ways
(a) file -> ghostscript -> raw device code -> raw printer
(b) file -> same printer in PostScript mode
The same printer often yields a better print from the ghostscript processing
than it does from its own internal PostScript interpreter.
Check out, for instance http://found.cs.nyu.edu/fox/color-inkjet.html
Of course, if you pay enough money for the printer it may contain a
quite respectable CPU chip and a correspondingly better PostScript implementation.
Ethan A Merritt
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