Linux-Misc Digest #306, Volume #20               Sat, 22 May 99 18:13:07 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Ken Thompson on Linux (Stephen E. Halpin)
  3c509b croaked on 2.2.9 (root)
  Re: Linux's Last Chance (Iain Georgeson)
  WordPerfect & Printers (John Hong)
  Re: [?] lint for Linux ("T.E.Dickey")
  Re: NT the best web platform? (Anthony Ord)
  Re: Netscape 4.60 evaluation (Herwig Bogaert)
  Re: my machine name (Frank Hahn)
  Kernel-Patches (Michael)
  The World Wide Expo  7633 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Netscape locks up when I first start it up (Frank Hahn)
  Re: Binary of XFree86 3.3.3.1 (Herwig Bogaert)
  Re: Linux on Dual Pentium-II machines ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Test (Amegatek)
  Configuration for high-spec NFS server (Nick Williams)
  Re: Dial-in terminal server... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Root Password lost... (NF Stevens)
  Linux hangs intermittently during boot (David Wake)
  Sound Problems:  sb:dsp reset failed (Bill Damon)
  Signal 11 -> GCC on Redhat 6.0...  ~< ("FTP server")
  Re: FTP with Resume feature? (Guillermo Labatte)
  Re: Netscape 4.60 evaluation (Andrew Robinson)
  Re: telnet and script ("Kurt C. Anderson")
  Re: Kernel-Patches (Juergen Heinzl)
  Re: NT the best web platform? (Christopher Browne)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen E. Halpin)
Subject: Re: Ken Thompson on Linux
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 19:34:43 GMT

On Wed, 19 May 1999 03:01:42 -0230, Neil Zanella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
    <<stuff deleted>>
>And let's not forget that languages like C, C++, Fortran, Tcl/Tk,
                                                  ^^^^^^^
>
>etc... as well as Apache, were all developed on Unix/Linux.

The first work on FORTRAN began at IBM in 1954, nearly 15 years before
work began in earnest on UNIX.

   <<more stuff deleted>>

-Steve

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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: 3c509b croaked on 2.2.9
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 16:07:06 -0400

        My 3c509b (eth0) stopped working when I upgraded to 2.2.9.  When I
recompile it as a module, and run insmod 3c509.o, I get a warning: 

init_module: Device or resource busy

        I get the same warnings when I try to activate the interface on startup. 
Funny, it did seem to work under 2.2.7, yet I cannot find anything in the
change log to indicate how or why this might have become broken.  So, I am
reluctantly preparing to downgrade back to 2.2.7 and see if this fixes the
problem.

        I have disabled PNP in the bios, so that shouldn't be causing any
problems.  Building it as an integral part of the kernel or as a module
seems to make no difference.  Is there a hidden lock file somewhere?  Did
some device number move?

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From: Iain Georgeson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux's Last Chance
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 20:42:23 +0100

In article <7i3ddg$iu8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mr S A Penny
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>In article <bA4OvJA$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>       Iain Georgeson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve D. Perkins
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>>>> Well, despite being won over by the sheer spangliness of Gnome...
>>>    Out of curiosity, what does "spangliness" mean?!?
>>At the risk of being percieved as unhelpful: "RTFJF".
>erm, what does RTFJF mean? I know RTFM but I can't think what a JF might be...
[A gazillion replies]

And as an encore - how many Usenet posters does it take to change a
light-bulb...?  ;)

        Iain, careering wildly off topic.

-- 
The Linux kernel has actually not changed at all since January, '94. Linus
just increments "version.c" once every 48 hours and unleashes the "change"
on an unsuspecting Internet, bringing FTP servers to their knees.
        -- Seen on linux-kernel

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hong)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: WordPerfect & Printers
Date: 22 May 1999 19:48:06 GMT

        I plucked this out of linux.corel.com today in their support FAQ 
for WP8 for Linux regarding their printer drivers...


Q. Where can I get a printer driver for my printer that will work
   properly with Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux? 
A. You can search for latest Corel WordPerfect printer drivers on
   Corel format (they have a .EXE extension; however, you can decompress them
   using InfoZip). You however, you will need to make a few changes 
   before they correct format for Linux. Convert them to lowercase (they
   case) and change the extension so that it has .us before the .all. 
   For example, WP60DM01.ALL would become wp60dm01.us.all


        Hope this helps anyone using WP8 for Linux that are having any 
problems with it...



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From: "T.E.Dickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [?] lint for Linux
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 19:45:33 GMT

Francisco Cribari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is there a version of  lint  for Linux? (I am using Red Hat Linux 
> 6.0). Thanks. FC. 

some people have mentioned lclint - perhaps it's still workable.

-- 
Thomas E. Dickey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.clark.net/pub/dickey

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Ord)
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT the best web platform?
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 19:42:17 GMT

On 19 May 1999 19:30:15 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hascall)
wrote:

>Benoit Goudreault-Emond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>}However, there is one thing that strikes me as odd, that I read somewhere,
>}and have not seen since (was it wrong?  Perhaps).  Apparently, IIS caches
>}its static content, but Apache does not, relying on Squid or a similar cache
>}manager to do so.
>
>   Would the structure of Apache allow adding such (as a module, perhaps)?
>
>   I added a file-cache to thttpd (its structure was such that
>   doing so was very easy, and) it made a *very* big difference
>   in performance -- you basically all but eliminate the syscalls
>   related to the filesystem.

I just bunged Squid as a front-end to Apache (one of the
options) and everything goes swimmingly.

I made it so it just caches dynamic content though.

>John

Regards

Anthony
-- 
=========================================
| And when our worlds                   |
| They fall apart                       |
| When the walls come tumbling in       |
| Though we may deserve it              |
| It will be worth it  - Depeche Mode   |
=========================================

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From: Herwig Bogaert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.60 evaluation
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 22:35:02 +0200

I Use 4.6 on slackware 3.6
not much difference with 4.51
Works well but not stable enough to my opnion, crashes quite
regurarly.
Would like some comments in the latter, is it netscape that is not so
stable or is there something wrong with my system, or are there a lot
of bad web servers around?
also having trouble with a small number of java applets here and there

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I use Netscape 4.51 on Linux. Before I download 4.60 and upgrade I
> wonder if anyone has done the same and what their impressions are -
> positive or negative.
> TFAH
> John Culleton
>
> --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==--
> ---Share what you know. Learn what you don't.---


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Hahn)
Subject: Re: my machine name
Date: 22 May 1999 20:35:46 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 21 May 1999 14:58:43 +0000, hudini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[snipped]

>I know I have seen screenshots w/ /var/log/messages revealing hostnames
>with names other than localhost....
>
>How do they do it?  Thanks...
>
You may have other networking problems, but this is how my hosts
file is setup:

127.0.0.1   localhost  loghost
192.168.100.50  machinename.domainname   machinename
192.168.100.51  othermachine1.domainname  othermachine1
192.168.100.52  othermachine2.domainname  othermachine2

-- 
Frank Hahn

Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
                -- Henry Spencer

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From: Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel-Patches
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 21:44:56 +0200

Hello,
how can I use the Kernel-Patches which can be downloaded from the
Linux-Kernel HQ? After I downloaded the patch files (which all end with
=2Egz) I am unable to decompress them. All GZip programms (zcaz, gunzip
and so on) just say "this is not a gzip file". I downloaded those
patches many times and from many different locations but had the same
problem all the time. Since I am new to Linux I probably don=B4t recognis=
e
sth. obvious, but I couldn=B4t find the solution for the problem myself,
so I would appreciate any help.

Michael

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.m68k,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.lynx
Subject: The World Wide Expo  7633
Date: 22 May 1999 19:36:15 GMT


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Hahn)
Subject: Re: Netscape locks up when I first start it up
Date: 22 May 1999 20:35:48 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 21 May 1999 22:21:44 +0000, Paul Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>When I first start up netscape it locks up for about 3 minutes.
>Then it works normally.   This first happened on redhat 5.2.
>Older versions of netscape work good from the start until I
>launch the mail program.  It does it to netscape 4.XX (up to version
>4.6)
>I run enlightenmnet window manager ( it does the same thing under
>FVWM2).  I have a Matrox G200 8MB card.
>I anybody else has seen this or knows of a fix please let me know.
>
I don't know of a fix but I'm guessing it is doing a DNS
lookup.

Is your link up to your ISP when you start Netscape?  If
not, get the link up first and then start Netscape and see
what happens.

-- 
Frank Hahn

Entropy isn't what it used to be.

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From: Herwig Bogaert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Binary of XFree86 3.3.3.1
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 22:10:00 +0200

I found binaries on www.xfree86.org

Mladen Gavrilovic wrote:

> Using ftpsearch.lycos.com, I could only find source rpms of XFree86
> 3.3.3.1.  Is there a site which has a binary available?  If not what
> version is the latest for which the binary is offered?  And which server
> should I use with an ATI Rage II card--Mach64 and SVGA seem the most
> likely.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mladen


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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux on Dual Pentium-II machines
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 20:11:39 GMT

According to mumford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> You're requesting info about building a number crunching system... I'm
> almost positive that you could expect a significant performance hit be-
> cause of the decreased cache size if you chose celerons instead of true
> P-II's (celerons have 128K cache, true P-II's have 512K).

The Celeron cache size is smaller, but it runs at twice the speed.  In
almost all real-world cases, this leads to better performance from the
128K cache Celerons.

It was also noticed several years ago that increasing cache size in
some processors, assuming constant speed, actually reduced performance
due to the increased overhead of cache management.  I do not believe
this factors into the difference between the PII/Celeron, though.

-p.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Amegatek)
Subject: Test
Date: 22 May 1999 20:44:03 GMT

This is a test
*****************
*  Amegatek  *
*****************

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nick Williams)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Configuration for high-spec NFS server
Date: 22 May 1999 22:07:51 +0100

Hi there,

I'm involved in specifying a new server for a research group,
which requires a high performance NFS server. Under
consideration are a Sun Enterprise 450 with a StorEdge A1000
external RAID box running Solaris, or a PC-based Linux solution,
as detailed below.

I'm interested in the likely NFS throughputs that could be
expected from this configuration, as well as any helpful
comments as to the general suitability of the design.

Server configuration:

* Dual/Quad Intel Pentium III Xeon (512K LII) at 500MHz
* 1GB ECC EDO RAM
* Mylex eXtremeRAID 1100 64bit PCI RAID Controller (64MB cache)
* 6 x 36.4GB Seagate Barracuda LVD Ultra-2 SCSI disks (3 per
  channel on the RAID controller - in RAID 5 array)
* 3Com 3C985 Gigabit Ethernet NIC

Network configuration:

* 3Com Switch 3300 10/100 (48 ports total) with Gigabit modules

Client configuration:

* Mixed Sun hardware, from SparcStation 4 to Ultra 60
* Miscellaneous PC Linux boxes (Pentium II)

System load:

* 15-20 simultaneous users
* Typically multi-gigabyte datasets stored as UNIX files
* 50/50 read/write load

-- 

[ Nick Williams                                  Office - 01865-(2)79252 ]
[ Computing Officer                                Mobile - 07775-637124 ]
[ New College, Oxford                     http://www.new.ox.ac.uk/~nick/ ]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Dial-in terminal server...
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 21:02:35 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grand Poobah of PRAM) wrote:
>
> I'm interested in configuring my linux box (running RedHat 6) for
> use as a dial-in terminal server.  Can anyone point me to any howtos
> on this-LDP doesn't seem to have anything on this.
>
> --
> "Somehow there's cosmic justice in the fact that movie makers can now
spend
> the gross national product of Romania on special effects and still
wind
> up with something that looks like a teenager's Web page."-Andrew
O'Hehir
>

Hi,

well, few months ago I have the same problem to configuring my box to
answer incoming calls and I solved the problem using information of
PPP-HOWTO (/usr/doc/HOWTO) section 26, Serial-HOWTO section 7 and the
information about getty_ps (or uugetty_ps), especially the file under
/usr/doc/getty_ps-2.0.7j/Examples/default/uugetty.autoanswer. If you
have time, look to the other files in this same directory, like
uugetty.ringback (This last one is very nice !!!).

I hope this helps :-)

Claudio Cuqui
Computer Scientist
Institute of Mathematics and Statistics
University of Sao Paulo - Sao Paulo - Brazil
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: +55 11 9916-2051 (cel.)
Fax  : +55 11 5506-9182


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Root Password lost...
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 21:10:17 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Veach) wrote:

[snip]

>Is it just me, or is it realy this easy to break into a linux machine
>and take over as root?

It depends on how you have your machine set up. On mine using
the linux single option in lilo brings up sulogin which requires
the root password before going into single user mode.

The relevent lines in /etc/inittab for controlling single mode
on my (SuSE 5.2) system are

# what to do in single-user mode
ls:S:wait:/sbin/init.d/rc S
~~:S:respawn:/sbin/sulogin

Norman

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From: David Wake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux hangs intermittently during boot
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 14:28:19 -0700


Redhat 5.2 hangs intermittently (about every other time) during
boot when looking for soundcard.  Sound works fine when it does boot
successfully.  Any ideas?

David Wake



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From: Bill Damon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sound Problems:  sb:dsp reset failed
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 21:17:43 +0000

I am trying to get sound working in my linux 5.2 system.  When it tries
to initialize the sound device at bootup I get the following message:

Soundblaster audio driver copyright...etc...
sb: dsp reset failed
YM3812 and OPL-3 driver copyright...etc...
OPL3 not detected ff

I have searched thru dejanews and all the faqs/howtos etc. and still
cannot figure this out.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I have a Yamaha sound card with an OPL3 driver in windows...

thanks...

Bill Damon, Salem VA


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From: "FTP server" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Signal 11 -> GCC on Redhat 6.0...  ~<
Crossposted-To: 
redhat.hardware.arch.intel,linux.redhat.misc,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,redhat.general
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 20:59:58 GMT

I keep getting a sig11 when trying to make bzImage for my 2.2.9 kernel. 
Never completes the compile :(.  I remember compiling kernels fine in
Redhat 5.2..

I have a P-60 cpu.


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From: Guillermo Labatte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FTP with Resume feature?
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 07:51:52 -0300

Try NcFTP (http://www.ncftp.com/)

Rob Brown-Bayliss wrote:

> Hi
>
> Can some one recoment a download or FTP prog for linux that supports
> resume?
>
> Thanks
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Robinson)
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.60 evaluation
Date: 22 May 1999 16:59:54 -0500

On Thu, 20 May 1999 22:35:02 +0200, 
Herwig Bogaert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I Use 4.6 on slackware 3.6
>not much difference with 4.51
>Works well but not stable enough to my opnion, crashes quite
>regurarly.
>Would like some comments in the latter, is it netscape that is not so
>stable or is there something wrong with my system, or are there a lot
>of bad web servers around?

I recently upgraded from 4.08, and have since noticed a number of
crashes. I would suggest that it's the inherent instability of this
release of netscape, as opposed to a configuration problem with your
box. Luckily, browser crashes aren't normally all that big a deal. 

Anyways, on my system (RH 5.2 P333 64 Mb), 4.08 was more stable than
4.5+...

[snip]

Cheers,

Drew

--
"There is not the slightest indication that [nuclear energy] 
will ever be obtainable. It would mean that the atom would have 
to be shattered at will."  
                      - Albert Einstein, 1932.

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From: "Kurt C. Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: telnet and script
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 16:35:13 -0500

:You might be able to use 'expect' to solve your problem.  I use such a
:script to connect to my account on another machine:
:
:#-----Start of my .script
:#!/usr/bin/expect --
:
:spawn telnet fire.wall
:
:expect -re "User: "
:send "MyAccountName\r"
:interact
:#--end of script
:
thanks, it isn't pretty but it works, i used the spawn telnet and some
expect and send commands.  i can run my script from the command line but ...
i now need to cron the script and am not able to.  i did a crontab -e and
added  0 7 * * 1-5 /root/mytelnetscript.  i will get a mail message that it
errored (sorry i'm not at this linux box so i can't get the exact message
right now).  is this because i am logged out and it cannot open a telnet
session?  or maybe i need to use a different approach?

kurt c. anderson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: Kernel-Patches
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 21:57:50 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael wrote:
>Hello,
>how can I use the Kernel-Patches which can be downloaded from the
>Linux-Kernel HQ? After I downloaded the patch files (which all end with
>.gz) I am unable to decompress them. All GZip programms (zcaz, gunzip
>and so on) just say "this is not a gzip file". I downloaded those
>patches many times and from many different locations but had the same
>problem all the time. Since I am new to Linux I probably don´t recognise
>sth. obvious, but I couldn´t find the solution for the problem myself,
>so I would appreciate any help.

Let me guess ... you're using Netscape ? If so, then yes, Netscape
loves to uncompress the files but saves them with the same name.

Changing the *encodingFilters in Netscape.ad might help, though I
do not use it (using that one is a different story anyway).

For how to apply a patch and what to do if something goes wrong
see /usr/src/linux/Documentation/* to start with.

Cheers,
Juergen

-- 
\ Real name     : Jürgen Heinzl                 \       no flames      /
 \ EMail Private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ send money instead /

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT the best web platform?
Date: 22 May 1999 20:50:09 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 22 May 1999 19:42:17 GMT, Anthony Ord
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
>I just bunged Squid as a front-end to Apache (one of the
>options) and everything goes swimmingly.
>
>I made it so it just caches dynamic content though.

Wouldn't you want it to cache static content too? 

And how "swimmingly" is that?  
- Does that mean that "it functions OK"?
- Or that this increases performance substantially? 

If the latter, that suggests that Squid+Apache = *very* good thing...

-- 
"MS Windows is the computer equivalent of burger chains and bowling
lanes. It is software that "works" only if you lower your expectations
to a point where you have essentially buried them." -- Sam
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>

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