Linux-Misc Digest #401, Volume #20 Sat, 29 May 99 11:13:28 EDT
Contents:
Re: grep involving a coun (NEWS)
How to get multiple repli (NEWS)
Re: choosing an OS for a (NEWS)
Re: Help changing video d (NEWS)
Re: WordPerfect gunzip (NEWS)
Re: USB on Linux (NEWS)
Netscape and libXt on Red (NEWS)
Re: first/second/third wo (NEWS)
Re: word processing, what (NEWS)
Re: "Art Format" images? (NEWS)
Re: choosing an OS for a (NEWS)
Re: Help: Maple V 5.1 & S (NEWS)
makemake? (NEWS)
Re: choosing an OS for a (NEWS)
INIT 2.0.33 crashes all the time in small memory! ("Christopher R. Thompson")
Re: URGENT. Dead or life. (NEWS)
"NEWS" going berserque? (Uwe Bonnes)
Re: Netscape Keeps Stalli (NEWS)
Re: My Windows is dead... (NEWS)
Re: What is going on? (Or whois [EMAIL PROTECTED]) (Erik de Castro Lopo)
Re: SuSE vs Red Hat? ("[EMAIL PROTECTED]")
Re: Real Player G2 (Steffen Kluge)
linux for grandfather (Clare Durst)
Re: word processing, what to use? (William Wueppelmann)
Restrict Directory access (NEWS)
Using floppies formatted (NEWS)
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: grep involving a coun
Date: 27 May 1999 18:32 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Hello,
> I've been looking for a way to get a count of a
> certain number of instances that are hit with the
> grep that I'm using. The syntax I have now is:
>
> grep -x 'Levl 1' *
>
> Anyone have advice on a way to send the count of
> these instances to a file, or even display the
> number of instances?
grep ... | wc -l
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girl at the counter said, "Would you like some fries with that?" --Jay
Leno
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to get multiple repli
Date: 27 May 1999 14:47 GMT
I have posted several messages in the past but I rarely ever get
replies. Since I am a newbie my questions are usually straight forwrd
and to the point. Why don't I get replies? Any advise would be
apreciated.
Thanks,
Mike B.
p.s. I suppose it would not be too ironic if I got no replies on this
message :P
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: choosing an OS for a
Date: 28 May 1999 03:17 GMT
Pete ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Mikhail Teterin wrote:
: Sound like a Sun Sparcstation ELC or SLC. Recommendable:
: - RedHat Linux 5.2 Sparc
: - or older Solaris Relase (2.5.1)
: I would take RedHat Linux into closer consideration. I am using it on my Sun
: Sparcstation 2 and my ELC. Runs fine, but 32 megs are recommenable,
: espacially if you want to run Netscape which is a real memhog
I am also running RedHat 5.2 on my ELC with 16MB. I can't complain, I'm
running afterstep at a usable pace. Although, netscape does indeed tend to
be slow, but I can live with it.
Just be weary of RedHat's Sparc docs, they don't appear to have been
updated in a while. Also, there's a definate possiblility that the NVRAM
has gone dead on it (like mine). If this is the case, you can get around
it without actually replacing the nvram. You can find out how to do this
somewhere in www.sunhelp.com, or just ask me.
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help changing video d
Date: 28 May 1999 04:17 GMT
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > As you can tell I am very new to Linux. I originally had a 2MB S3 video
> > card in my Linux machine. I have up graded it to a 4MB S3 video card.
> > How do I change the driver? Currently, I am difficulty exiting X
> > Windows and my boss thought it might be due to the new video card. When
> > Linux starts up, no problem, all the words seem fine. If I go to X
> > Windows everything is still fine, even in XTerm. But once I exit from X
> > Windows, all the words on the screen are "garbled" up. The letters are
> > out of order but linux is still working fine. If I type telnet or
> > startx, those respective programs run fine. If I use telnet it will
> > work however the words are still garbled. If I return to X Windows then
> > evrything is fine, even in XTerm, until I exit again. So the only way
> > for me to work in a true linux environment without X Windows, is when I
> > first start up. I apoligize for the length of this message and will
> > truely appreciate any advise on my problem, be it a video driver or not.
are you using a S3 or a S3 Virge? A colleague of mine had this problem
with a S3 Virge - search on dejanews for remedies. In her case it didn't
help and she got a S3 (non virge). One cheap and easy way around this is
to set the default runlevel to 5.
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WordPerfect gunzip
Date: 27 May 1999 15:32 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Gero H. Marten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Rod Smith wrote:
>
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: USB on Linux
Date: 27 May 1999 15:17 GMT
Brent wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> : I'd like to know peoples experiences using USB devices
> : with Linux. I'd like to know if I would have any problems
> : connected with a USB adapter?
>
> : Greg
>
> Greg, there is no USB support in Linux, as of yet.
No. There is, even in the new versions of the kernel. I don't know the
drivers created but if I remember well you can find mouse and keyboard
drivers. For unit such as Zip I think we must wait.
Ciao Mei
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape and libXt on Red
Date: 28 May 1999 10:17 GMT
Redhat6.0
Got the latest Netscape6 glibc tarball , installed it , but it errors
"cant load libXt.so.6"
This lib is installed, it is in the ld.so.conf file and it is used by
other programs. ANy other reason? 4.51 is driving me bonkers with its
keyboard stopping working every 5 mins and random vanishing acts.
Ozzy
Mongrol of The Great Unclanned
"Keep your `lectric eye on me babe,
Put your railgun to my head."
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: first/second/third wo
Date: 28 May 1999 10:17 GMT
Richard Kulisz wrote:
>US, Western Europe and Canada are First World. East Block (including
>Italy IIRC) used to be Second World but they're now back to Third World.
Er... right.
I always thought:
Old World: Europe and the Mediterranean
New World: The Americas
Third World: Everywhere else
but nowadays people seem to use 'Third World' to describe any
developing country.
--
Ed Avis
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: word processing, what
Date: 28 May 1999 14:17 GMT
Philip Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 27 May 1999 10:03:51 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>...
>>
>> Wrong! vi is a very nice, quick way to edit text files.
> It can be used to "quickly edit files". However,it does not fit the
> description of "nice".
> any one of dozens of modeless editors would better fit the description
> "nice, quick way to edit text files".
> jove, joe, uemacs, jed, .....
Quickly edit files, not quickly start editing files (though it
does that too.) vi's good for writing up a resume (if you have
troff handy), or writing a program, or anything else you
need to do (for evaluating lisp expressions, I use a lisp interpreter,
no need to put one in the text editor, any more than there's need to
put in a C compiler.
--
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http://www.calvin.edu/~aemers19/
Preach from it unto the Righteous, that they may renounce their
ways and repent. -- Honest Book of Truth
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "Art Format" images?
Date: 28 May 1999 02:47 GMT
On 27 May 1999, Jim Osborn wrote:
> I grabbed a few images from someone's web page, noticing they were
> rather small, and had suffix ".art." I couldn't get xv to display
> them, nor the K image viewer or browser from my (now ancient) SuSE 5.3
> distribution. The web page's author, on AOL, says they're "in art
> format which displays well in MSIE." Well, I'm not about to get
> a Microsoft computer for most any reason, least of all a few images,
> but I thought I'd ask around if anyone knows about this format,
> and what we Linux folks can use to view it.
Run file(1) on them. That should tell you what they are.
David
--
David Vrabel
Engineering Undergraduate at University of Cambridge, UK.
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: choosing an OS for a
Date: 28 May 1999 17:02 GMT
In article <1wx33.10520$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mikhail Teterin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <eri33.10405$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mikhail Teterin) writes:
[...]
>The responses so far:
>
> . Solaris would be way too slow on this machine (perhaps, some
> tweaking is possible?)
Slowloris?
> . Linux (RedHat) is happy, but may need tweaking to run Netscape
> successfully
I haven't tried Linux on a Sparc; it's been okay on a PowerBook for me
but not exactly stable.
> . not a word from the *BSD world :( Did I make a mistake of
> mentioning Open and Net BSDs in one sentence?
Nope, I just haven't checked Usenet for a few days; I've been getting
a workstation set up for my mother (it'll be her first computer).
>=The requirements are to be stable (of course), have PPP software, and
>=run Netscape... I'd prefer to set the disk up at home, using my
>=FreeBSD/i386 machines, but I'm not sure I can make it bootable by a Sun
>=box.
>
>Seems, like Linux is going to be the choice... Oh, well...
I've got a pair of Sparc IPC boxen that have NetBSD 1.4 installed at
the moment - they've been doing okay so far, but X has been a tad
touchy. (I see Xsun.core appear way too often.)
The older of the two boxen (galaxy) started out with NetBSD 1.3.2,
upgraded to 1.3.3 and was rock solid with both of those versions
(it only went down for hardware and/or kernel changes). It's
running 1.4 now with a serial console. When it had its own display,
and was running X, I thought it performed well with its 48 Mbytes.
The other box (constellation) is still in the setup phase, I've
been playing^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hworking with getting everything set up
and running, but given the current situation with X, it'll probably
be running NetBSD 1.3.3 (or 1.4.1, depending) when I introduce my
mother to it. :-)
Both Netscape Communicator and Navigator are in the NetBSD packages
collection (for i386 and Sparc). The Sparc version requires some
sunos libraries to install and run though (see compat_sunos(8)).
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help: Maple V 5.1 & S
Date: 28 May 1999 15:32 GMT
In <7i9efp$4k3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Opitz) writes:
>Hello,
>I use glib Suse 6.1, Xfree86 3.3.3.1 and Maple V 5.1. Installation was
>ok but the follwoing happened:
>(Non-X)
>>maple
>/usr/local/maple/bin_IBM_INTEL_LINUX/mapleTTY: can't load library 'libm.so.5'
>So I installed libc-5.4.46bin.tar.gz to
>/usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib
>and now it worked.
>But NOW xmaple:
>>xmaple
>/usr/local/maple/bin_IBM_INTEL_LINUX/xmaplev5: can't load library 'libXt.so.6'
>When I do : export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/usr/X11R6/lib"
>Then I get a "Segmentation Fault"
>hat can I do ? PLEASE help me !
>Some more info:
>ldd /usr/local/maple/bin_IBM_INTEL_LINUX/xmaplev5
> libXt.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x40000000)
> libXmu.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x40048000)
> libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x4005a000)
> libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x400ff000)
> libdl.so.1 => /lib/libdl.so.1 (0x4010e000)
> libm.so.5 => not found
> libc.so.5 => not found
> libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x40112000)
> libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x4011b000)
> libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40130000)
> /lib/ld-linux.so.1 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x2aaaa000)
>lddlibc5 /usr/local/maple/bin_IBM_INTEL_LINUX/xmaplev5
> libXt.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x4000b000)
> libXmu.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x40053000)
> libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x40065000)
> libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x4010a000)
> libdl.so.1 => /lib/libdl.so.1 (0x40116000)
> libm.so.5 => /usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib/libm.so.5 (0x40119000)
> libc.so.5 => /usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib/libc.so.5 (0x40121000)
> libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x401e1000)
> libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x401ea000)
> libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x401ff000)
> ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x402ac000)
>> echo $DISPLAY
>:0.0
>MANY THANKS !
>Martin
--
Duncan (-:
"software industry, the: unique industry where selling substandard goods is
legal and you can charge extra for fixing the problems."
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: makemake?
Date: 28 May 1999 13:17 GMT
I'm new to linux programming and was attempting to use
code crusader, however I keep getting the error that
makemake wasn't found. What exactly is makemake and where
(or should) I get it?
Thanx
Travis
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: choosing an OS for a
Date: 28 May 1999 15:02 GMT
Mikhail Teterin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: The responses so far:
:
: . Solaris would be way too slow on this machine (perhaps, some
: tweaking is possible?)
Needs lots of ram, too.
: . Linux (RedHat) is happy, but may need tweaking to run Netscape
: successfully
OK, but also needs lots of ram, and loads up everything but the kitchen
sink. You may be able to trim the fat and make it comfy on a small machine.
: . not a word from the *BSD world :( Did I make a mistake of
: mentioning Open and Net BSDs in one sentence?
I just posted a high rating of OpenBSD 2.5 on my Sparcs. Lean, mean and
runs like a striped arsed ape, even on 12 meg ram running X. I have
not had good luck with NetBSD, sadly, although I have tried several
times and several ports. OpenBSD just runs, well, out of the box.
I gotta figure out why that happens.
: =The requirements are to be stable (of course), have PPP software, and
: =run Netscape... I'd prefer to set the disk up at home, using my
: =FreeBSD/i386 machines, but I'm not sure I can make it bootable by a Sun
: =box.
:
: Seems, like Linux is going to be the choice... Oh, well...
I would suggest you may be happier with OpenBSD 2.5, unless you really
like Linux on the Sparc. Linux is good, but feels too much like frufru.
Some of us still like a lean mean Spartan unix.
Caveat, YYMV, and try them all..... and no flames please, me ol' 'Net
Flak Suit got hung up almost 20 years back, and is a tad dusty and
full o' moth holes.....(gotta watch out fer those kevlar-eatin' net moths...
they be pesky critters....(:+}}....).
Bob Keys
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From: "Christopher R. Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: INIT 2.0.33 crashes all the time in small memory!
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 06:06:19 -0700
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Hi all,
Can it be fixed?
I was wondering if anyone has experienced the problem that causes INIT
to go 100% cpu and it's page usage grow until it finally crashes. I've
got five machines here running linux 2.0.33 from Red Hat and everything
runs fine until I really load em up with big jobs that use lots of cpu
and memory. One of the machines has ony 16 meg ram and crashes all the
time. The others have 24, 32, 48, and 72. They have all got at least 64
meg of swap on a local hard drive. 32 megs seems not to have a problem
at all. But the 16 and 24 are completely unreliable.
What I would really like to do is take 16 megger and make it 8 cause its
slow any way and let the 24 be 32. The 8 megger can then just swap like
hell until the disk drive blows. Only problem is that INIT keeps craping
out on me.
I downloaded a program from
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/software/setiathome-1.1.i386-pc-linux-gnulibc1.tar
This thing seems to want about 13megs to run and will not run on the 16
meg box at all.
I killed smb, nfs, ypserv, yppasswd, cron, sendmail, portmapper, amd,
mcserv, gpm, syslogd, basically... everthing except, init, 2 mingetty's
on the console, inetd and a few nfsiod's I don't know how to get rid of.
Oh and xntpd (1 meg). Anyway what we can do is, because it takes about
15 minutes for the system to crash is fire off setiathome and then watch
top.
Every two seconds setiathome gets bigger and init gets smaller (which by
the way is really cool to watch). Until setiathome get around a SIZE of
(i guess) 13 megs (13856 pages) and init get down to around 24 pages
(K?)... I've actually seen it get down to 11K but I really wonder how it
can possibly do this? At some point something breaks. I don't know if
it is swapping or what. The drive that is swapped to is sometimes idle
and needs to spin up before paging starts. But even when it is forced to
spin continually.... INIT hops to the top of the cpu utilization chart
and starts grabbing memory until it finally crashes.
Does anyone know of a specific patch for this. Do I need something in
Kenerlware, or will a new /sbin/init do the trick, I',m not quite ready
yet to go to 2.2.9. Everything else is working spiffy and I'm not fully
recoverable yet.
They call me Curious George, and I don't know why?
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: URGENT. Dead or life.
Date: 28 May 1999 23:47 GMT
On Thu, 27 May 1999 12:12:41 -0700, Christopher R. Thompson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Nuno Donato wrote:
>
>Get a dos boot disk and install loadlin.exe and a precompiled kernel
>vmlinuz from one of the distribution sites. Add config.sys entries as
>follows.
>
>shell=a:\loadlin.exe a:\vmlinuz root=/dev/hdxx ro init 1
NOOOOOOO! No need to do all that!
>> This is a dead or life situation.
>> I am going to explain what happened to me, because I REALLY need help.
>> I have changed a file, that contains info about the window-managers.
>> Now, every time i run linux, XDM autostarts, i enter the username(root
>> is the only user), and the password. But there must be an error some
>> whera, because, no window manager run.
>> And I am taken again to enter the name and password.
>> How can I solve this. If i haven't XDM enabled, I could edit the file
>> again from the console.
Press Ctrl-Alt-F1 - you will go to a console. Login as root, edit
/etc/inittab and change the 5 to a 3 in the line that contains
"initdefault".
Press Ctrl-Alt-Del to reboot. (I think kill -HUP <init pid> then
kill <xdm pid> may also work. Try it first...)
Always rememer, Ctrl-Alt-F1 thru Ctrl-Alt-F6 (on most normal Linux
distros) will get you to a console from X. X is not dead -
whatever you have going there is still running. If you want to
get back to that, press Alt-F7 (not Ctrl-Alt-F7!)
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From: Uwe Bonnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: "NEWS" going berserque?
Date: 29 May 1999 13:28:25 GMT
Hallo,
what are these serveral hundret ++ Postings from NEWS?
Bye
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========= Tel. 06151 162516 ======== Fax. 06151 164321 ==========
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape Keeps Stalli
Date: 28 May 1999 23:47 GMT
Michael Mika wrote:
>
> Yep. Netscape IS the problem. Killing it is the way I get rid of the runnig
> wild Instance. Somtimes Netscape dosnīt even release all resources when I
> normally exit it. Did anybody try 4.6 (yet)?
Yes. It seems to hang less frequently -- possibly for the same reason that a
clean car runs better. When I first started it up the splchkr caused a hang,
but it miraculously cured itself.
--
Cheers,
Bev
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: My Windows is dead...
Date: 28 May 1999 22:32 GMT
Oic...thanks for telling that.
Unfortunately, I have reformatted my disk drive and lost Linux and Win98.
But now I remember that you can't install the LILO application onto
a FAT32 partition. Well, thanks for the advice and I will refer to this
post when I get the CD version. The first installation of Linux was a test
to determine if everything worked out. I still do have the desire to learn
Linux :)
mist wrote:
>
> Steven K.I <"The Phat Impala SS CreW"@san.rr.com> scribed to us that -
> >I have Windows 98 on a 10 gig and RedHat 6.0 with KDE on a 4.3 gig.
> >I decided to put LILO on the MBR where Win98 is installed but when
> >I decided to test Windows out I wasn't able to load Windows...somehow
> >Linux must of "destroyed" Windows 98. Any ideas on how to get Win98 back?
> >I have re-installed Linux and KDE, but Win98 still refuses to load.
> >Command.com is apparently "missing" even though I boot with a dos boot disk
> >and it is still there.
> >(Luckily, I have this laptop to work with. :)
> >
> >
>
> Use the dos boot disk to get a prompt and type
>
> FDISK /MBR
>
> from it. Assuming you have a working FDISK on the dos bootdisk then
> that should fix your win98 MBR and let you boot windows again. You
> can't use LILO on the MBR of a fat32 disk.
> --
> Mist.
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From: Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What is going on? (Or whois [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 23:45:59 +1000
Ian Briggs wrote:
>
> Jonas wrote:
> :Is everyone getting these multiple re-postings of old articles by
> :[EMAIL PROTECTED]?
>
> I am.
I'm not. I use an ISP which filters out rubbish with a BI>25.
Erik
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From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: SuSE vs Red Hat?
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 06:43:35 -0700
> It would be interesting to do a survey of people who have experience
> with both RH and SuSE and hear their opinions on...
>
> 1) Ease of install and configuration for 1st time user
> 2) Ease of install and configuration for experienced user
> 3) Ease of post-install administration for 1st time user
> 4) Ease of post-install administration for experienced user
> 5) Choice of included packages
Here's my two cents: I started using Slackware two years ago, but still
am not truely an advanced user. In an attempt to get my TV card working
I bought both RH 6.0 and SUSE 6.1. I wasn't able to get the card
working in either, but RH made setting up sound and printers easier.
(Once I had isolated the esound conflicts, that is.) In contrast, RH
couldn't handle my Adaptec 3740 SCSI. This is probably due to improper
termination. SUSE could.
RH's manuals are much better than they were, but still a far cry form
the old Slackware manuals. The SUSE manual was concise, but had typos
in the command literals (those texts that you absolutely have to type
correctly). It tought me a good deal about kernel and device
configuration, but I still couldn't get either the TV or sound working.
As far as included packages, they are apples and oranges. RH includes
one CD with a few commercial packages - perhaps ViaVoice, etc, but no
listing of what is actually on there. SUSE includes five CD's total,
and I'd be hard pressed to name a GPL package that isn't there.
For a windows user hoping to learn LINUX, I'd recommend RH. If you want
to get more involved, buy a separate, big manual set.
My two cents,
-BitterGrey
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steffen Kluge)
Subject: Re: Real Player G2
Date: 29 May 1999 14:13:53 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Richard Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Have downloaded and installed Real Player G2 .
Downloaded from where? www.real.com insists that the latest
Linux version they have is 5.0...
Thanks
Steffen.
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Steffen Kluge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Fujitsu Australia Ltd
Keywords: photography, Mozart, UNIX, Islay Malt, dark skies
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clare Durst)
Crossposted-To: brown.cs.linux,linux.dev.laptop
Subject: linux for grandfather
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 09:23:25 -0400
My husband has used TeX and Emacs and Kermit since the early eighties,
first on a Vax at the American Math Society (where the AMS was an early
experimenter in using TeX for typesetting) and now later on a 486 at home
since he retired. Our son is knowledgeable in linux, but I am not, though
I know some rudimentary unix and am well experienced with vm, macs and
PCs.
My husband wants to get a laptop and be able to run his favorite
programs, using linux, without any real change in the way he does things
now. But it's unfair to our son to ask him to do all the setup, research
for a laptop, etc. So I'm trying to help. I've looked at kharker's site
at UTexas, and the list of laptops there, but it has more technical
information than I can comprehend and much of it is about obsolete
models of machines. My husband is in no sense of the word technically
savvy. My question is:
If you were going to set your grandfather up with a new laptop running
linux TODAY, WHAT MACHINE WOULD YOU BUY? What machine is the MOST likely
not to have problems with driver conflicts, etc, etc. Assume that he
wants to use the machine to do his mathematics, not to challenge himself
with driver conflicts, etc. He wants to be a USER.
Any help or advice you can give would be gratefully appreciated - and I'd
also appreciate being answered at my e-mail address since I don't have
time to monitor the forums constantly.
Thanks,
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Clare Durst
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Wueppelmann)
Subject: Re: word processing, what to use?
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 14:05:09 GMT
In our last episode (Thu, 27 May 1999 10:03:51 +0200),
the artist formerly known as David Goldstein said:
>Michel wrote:
>>
>> David Steuber wrote:
>> D. Vrabel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Since when was vi a word processor? vi is only a text editor.
^^^^
The word "only" doesn't belong here, since it tends to imply that a text
editor is somehow a less useful or sophisticated tool than a word
processor, which simply isn't the case.
>>
>> Wrong! vi is also a piece of shit.
>
>
> Wrong! vi is a very nice, quick way to edit text files. Perhaps
>compared to real word processors, vi is lacking, but I use it quite
>often.
As a word processor, vi is very much lacking. Then again, as a text
editor, Word Perfect is equally lacking (and MS Word is getting worse at
both jobs with each successive version...)
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It is pitch black.
You are likely to be spammed by a grue.
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Restrict Directory access
Date: 26 May 1999 23:17 GMT
Howdy all.
I want to restrict a users access to one single directory.
The directory is:
/usr/local/home/pana/sites/acct/pana-colo
When the user pana-colo logs in, I dont want them to be able to go any
higher than the pana-colo directory they are in by default. I tried
changing the permisions on the acct directory to 771,751, and a couple
of others, but when the user does not have read access to the parent
directory, the getcwd comand fails on login, saying it cant read the
parent directory.
What am I doing wrong?
Darren
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Using floppies formatted
Date: 26 May 1999 23:17 GMT
I am using a RedHat 5.2 machine. I obtained superformat, and can
successfully format 3.5" HD disks to 1.743MB, 1.849MB, and even
1.992MB. Immediately after formatting them I can mount them and put
data on them. I then can read the data back. All is good so far.
Then I unmount the floppy, eject the disk, and re-insert the disk. I
then type "mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /fd" and there are no complaints.
But, as soon as I look at the contents of the floppy, everything is
corrupted. I am guessing that I need to add something to /etc/fdprm
an/or mount the disk differently. Anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks for the help!
Regards,
-Stephen Hammond
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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