Linux-Misc Digest #401, Volume #25 Thu, 10 Aug 00 03:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
X11 display fails while exporting display on telnet (Chris Cera)
Re: X11 display fails while exporting display on telnet ("Terry")
Re: talk error?? (Glitch)
Re: Please Bare With Me(another question) (David M. Cook)
Re: routing advice needed (David M. Cook)
Re: using pop3 instead of sendmail (David M. Cook)
Re: vt100 emulation (screen scraping) libraries (David M. Cook)
Simple question about CD-Writing for Linux (Jimi Aleshin)
Total System Lockups (Vinh Le)
Re: Open Games API? (Richard Steiner)
Re: routing advice needed (Villy Kruse)
Re: Linux on AMD (blowfish)
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 21:48:28 -0700
Robert Krawitz wrote:
>
> blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I've never said anything wrong to make a profit. In fact. I believe
> > everybody should make money from their own creation. And the copyrights
> > law is a good way to protect that income from being riped off.
>
> The (Constitutional in the US, at any rate) purpose of copyright is to
> promote creation by increasing the incentive to create. Not to
> prevent someone from getting ripped off. The point is subtle, but
> important -- copyright is intended to benefit *society*, and only
> indirectly the creator.
>
Can you stop smoking that funny doobie for a moment?
> > And $25k is *hardly* can be consider as "windfall." ;-)
>
> I suspect that if you suddenly came into $25K you'd consider it a bit
> of a windfall.
Ahh! Not really. It won't hurt either. But not a windfall though. ;-)
> --
> Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/
>
> Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2
> Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Project lead for The Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net
>
> "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
> --Eric Crampton
--
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
user.
(Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
(c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 21:55:02 -0700
John Hasler wrote:
>
> blowfish writes:
> > I sincerely hope that you have cashed in before it flopped.
>
> Don't take the fact that I keep responding to you as a measure of my
> intelligence. I wouldn't be saying I made $25k if I hadn't already sold,
> because I did not make any money until I did. "Paper" profits are
> imaginary profits.
>
Absolutely true about "paper profits." :-)
What about your intelligent!? Can you, would you elaborate?
> BTW VA Linux seems to be at about 40 right now: a 33% gain on the IPO
> price. If I still held the stock I'd be quite happy with that. VA Linux
> has only "flopped" by the standards of the "dot-com" loons.
Yeah. I've noticed that too. But it's still at a HUGH lost comparing to
its high.
> --
> John Hasler
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
> Dancing Horse Hill
> Elmwood, WI
--
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
user.
(Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
(c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 22:00:35 -0700
John Hasler wrote:
>
> blowfish writes:
> > So. You're hired hand for Debian.
>
> No. Debian hires no one.
>
> > Or unofficial hired hand (or coder, if you prefer.) No?
>
> No.
A payola?
If not.
How come nobody ever even give me $25.00 for not doing anything!?
Anyway. You have sold your code for profit. But just won't admit it.
Because you know the whole idea of GNU-GPL, FSF and profit takings are
contradictory to one another. So, you have to keep finding, making
excuses for yourself to deny the true. Correct?
> --
> John Hasler
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Dancing Horse Hill
> Elmwood, Wisconsin
--
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
user.
(Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
(c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Cera)
Subject: X11 display fails while exporting display on telnet
Date: 10 Aug 2000 05:07:31 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I do the following:
localhost:> su
Password:
localhost:> xhost +
access control disabled, clients can connect from any host
localhost:> telnet farg.edt.edu
. . .
farg:> setenv DISPLAY localhost:0.0
farg:> ./prog
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.InternalError: Can't connect to X11 window server
using 'localhost:0.0' as the value of the DISPLAY variable.
farg:> exit
localhost:>
What am I doing wrong. I have seen other people connect using this same scheme
on machines other than this particular linux box. Is there something that I
am forgetting. Could someone please help me out? Thank you.
--
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X AGAINST HTML MAIL,
/ \ AND NEWS TOO, dammit
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From: "Terry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: X11 display fails while exporting display on telnet
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 22:29:52 -0700
Because localhost (almost) always maps to 127.0.0.1 (or yourself) so farg is
trying to open an X display on itself not on your other system - try setting
display to the IP address of the system running the X server.
--
Terry Moore-Read - Computer Guru & Part-time rocket scientist
NAR # 77465 Insured Level 1
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http://www.moorecomputersolutions.com
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Chris Cera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I do the following:
>
> localhost:> su
> Password:
> localhost:> xhost +
> access control disabled, clients can connect from any host
> localhost:> telnet farg.edt.edu
> . . .
> farg:> setenv DISPLAY localhost:0.0
> farg:> ./prog
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.InternalError: Can't connect to X11
window server using 'localhost:0.0' as the value of the DISPLAY variable.
> farg:> exit
> localhost:>
>
>
> What am I doing wrong. I have seen other people connect using this same
scheme
> on machines other than this particular linux box. Is there something that
I
> am forgetting. Could someone please help me out? Thank you.
> --
> /"\ c h r i s c
e r a
> \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> X AGAINST HTML MAIL,
> / \ AND NEWS TOO, dammit
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Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 01:53:47 -0400
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: talk error??
also make sure that mesg are turned on for both user's terminals,
otherwise no messages will be allowed to apppear on their screen....it
may not relate to your error but it will come into play if mesg is set
to no
HTH
Brandon
green bird wrote:
>
> Hi, there,
> I am using a Red Hat 6.2 at my home. When I was tweaking my
> machine, I tried "talk". I set up two normal user accounts for
> my self. And I tried to talk from one to another. But I received
> the following message:
>
> -------[ Couldn't bind local control socket: Cannot assign
> requested address. Press any key... ]---------------
>
> It seems there is some problem of resolving the address. But
> when I tried "talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]", I still got the same
> error.
>
> No clue about it.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook)
Subject: Re: Please Bare With Me(another question)
Date: 10 Aug 2000 05:48:59 GMT
On Wed, 09 Aug 2000 06:29:58 GMT, N/A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>what if my hardware isnt in the list when configuring X? specifically the
>video card and monitor spec's.?
You can use
SuperProbe
to get info about the card. For the monitor, if you don't have a manual
with specs in it, you can guess the type of monitor (e.g. can do
1024x768@70Hz, etc). Both Xconfigurator and XF86Setup let you choose the
monitor this way. Unless the monitor is some old single frequency antique,
it should work find.
Dave Cook
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook)
Subject: Re: routing advice needed
Date: 10 Aug 2000 05:57:01 GMT
On 09 Aug 2000 01:24:00 +0100, Sandy Drobic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> eth0: 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.0
> eth1: 192.168.10.1 255.255.255.0
Looks like what you want to do is bridging. A search on "bridging" at
google.com/linux brings up lots of useful links.
Dave Cook
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook)
Subject: Re: using pop3 instead of sendmail
Date: 10 Aug 2000 06:08:54 GMT
On Wed, 09 Aug 2000 18:12:13 -0700, Martin Terpstra
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>is it possible that Email on Linux is sent automattically to a POP3
>server
No, the pop server (by which I mean the actual daemon, ipop3d, not the
machine itself) only allows clients to retrieve their mail.
You'll still need to direct outgoing mail to an SMTP server somewhere (one
that will relay mail from your domain).
There may be some confusion because you can direct mail to a machine called
pop.foo.com, but it's still going to port 25 on pop.foo.com.
Dave Cook
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: vt100 emulation (screen scraping) libraries
Date: 10 Aug 2000 06:15:58 GMT
On Wed, 09 Aug 2000 13:48:37 GMT, Jim Morrissey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am writing an application that needs to emulate a user sitting at a vt100
>terminal (it iterfacesith backend legacy apps (Cobol) running on a
>mainframe) I need to be able automate the things that a user would do from
>their vt100, and am looking for appropriate libraries I can re-use
>(commercial or otherwise). I would prefer C++ class libraries, but Java or C
>libs would also work. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!!
Perhaps expect is what you are looking for?
http://expect.nist.gov/
I see a few things at freshmeat.net, but I'm not sure what search string to
use for the best hits ("test" brings up a lot of irrelevant stuff,
"automate" is worse).
Dave Cook
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From: Jimi Aleshin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.apps.cdwrite,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Simple question about CD-Writing for Linux
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 06:34:49 GMT
Hi,
I have Red Hat Linux 6.1 with the 2.2.12-20 kernel. And I just
installed a Hewlett Packard CD-Writer 9310i. It works in Windows and it
suggests with it being set to the "Cable Select" jumper. I'm just
wondering if Linux works with Cable Select? Or do I have to put the
jumper on Slave or Master? My CD-Reader which came with the computer is
Master I think (probably). So does that mean I put the CD-Burner on the
Slave jumper? And also if I have Plug and Play enabled on Linux will it
autodetect the CD-Writer? If not, is there any other way?
Please tell me anything on making it work, thanks.
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From: Vinh Le <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Total System Lockups
Date: 10 Aug 2000 06:36:21 GMT
Help!
I need some assistance with debugging some total system
lockups I've been having!
I'm not sure what's causing it, other than when I kill
the ppp link, the system completely freezes! The behaviour
is random and "seems" to have started when I added the
Tekram DC-390 SCSI-2 controller.
Yes, I know, it may be an interrupt problem, but how
exactly do I go about checking things? What files, etc.?
For starters, the modem is a US Robotics 56K FAX INT.
Unlike the SoundBlaster ViBRA16X, which is configured
with isapnp.conf, I have all the modem lines in that
file commented out. These are the lines dumppnp created.
I have my BIOS set with 0x03f8, IRQ 4 as COM1. On
boot up, 0x03f8 and 0x2f8 are recognized as serial ports
with IRQ 4 and IRQ 3, respectively. The UARTs appear
as the devices. This allows me to use the modem, but
I'm a bit wary now if this is also the cause of my lockups.
If you have a bit of time, please help!
Thanks!
Vinh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <-- remove NOSPAM
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc
Subject: Re: Open Games API?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 00:24:40 -0500
Here in comp.os.linux.misc, Andre-John Mas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
spake unto us, saying:
> So, is there such an API in development, or are there any people
> out there interested in such a solution? Maybe the developers of
> these OSs could help push such an API?
These folks seemed to be able to write a cross-platform pinball game:
http://www.medialab.lostboys.nl/projects/madewith/pinball/pinballgame.html
--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
+ VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
For Sale: Parachute. Only used once, never opened, small stain.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: routing advice needed
Date: 10 Aug 2000 06:39:54 GMT
On 09 Aug 2000 22:32:00 +0100, Sandy Drobic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
># runtime-configurable parameter: forward IP packets.
># Is this host a router? (yes/no)
>#
>IP_FORWARD=yes
>
>Didn't work though, so I'm currently compiling a new kernel and I hope,
>my problem will be solved, if the relevant options are enabled.
>
It won't work until the YaST has a chance at it. The real setting is
here:
# cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
0
If the value is "0" then no routing between networks.
If the value is "1" then you can route from one network to the other.
To set it do:
echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
Which will work until next reboot. YaST will pick up the configuration
you set above and enable routing at boot time.
I beleive that re-building the kernel is pointless.
Villy
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux on AMD
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 00:01:27 -0700
"Clifton T. Sharp Jr." wrote:
>
> shook wrote:
> > I am thinking of setting up Linux on an AMD machine. Did you have any
> > problem with the install or after the install?
>
> 1. I changed from a P200 to a K6-3 400 on my old machine. Not a single
> problem, lots of extra speed.
> 2. I took the hard drive over to my new (as of last November) Athlon 600.
> No problems, lots of extra speed. Compiled at least two kernel upgrades
> over the time, no problems, lots of speed.
>
> Problems with AMD:
>
> 1. You'll sit tilted to the right. That's from the thickness of all that
> extra money in the wallet in your left hip pocket.
> 2. You won't be sending an Intel unique CPU identifier to anyone who has
> the hack and asks for it.
> 3. You'll just have to put up with the extra speed. Poor you.
>
SuSE 6.4 have default K6-3DNow optimisation as well.
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--
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
user.
(Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
(c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.
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