Linux-Misc Digest #610, Volume #20 Sun, 13 Jun 99 01:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Use of licq ("Roger Bieri")
Re: Leafnode and inode problem (Dieter Rohlfing)
Re: Shutting down as a normal user.. (Anthony DeLuca)
Re: SANE 1.0. start problems HELP needed ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
command not found ("Nevyn")
Re: Cache tuning (Stewart Honsberger)
Re: /etc/termcap question ("T.E.Dickey")
Re: Apache in SuSE 6.0 ("Gero H. Marten")
Re: RedHat 5.2 (where to get apache 1.3.6 rpm?) (David Frye)
Java under Linux (Jim McIntyre)
Installation Problem with "QT" (Robert Farney)
Re: ? Linux community manage vs. chaos ? (pangloss)
Re: Shutting down as a normal user.. (Stewart Honsberger)
Re: Shutting down as a normal user.. (Latenar)
Re: Shutting down as a normal user.. (hudini)
Re: Question for vi expert (William Wueppelmann)
Re: 2 newbie questions! (Latenar)
Re: Cd-rom Install Problem (John Girash)
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From: "Roger Bieri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Use of licq
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 14:05:29 +0200
Hey there,
does anyone have experience with licq, the ICQ for UNIX client ?
I've benn installing it and now I am confused about the plug-ins thing. It
says I need to specify some plug-in using the -p argument on command line,
but after installation my /plugins directory is empty. So, can anyone give
me some assistance please ?
thx, Roger
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dieter Rohlfing)
Subject: Re: Leafnode and inode problem
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 16:14:03 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 10 Jun 1999 19:08:00 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (R. Denoire)
wrote:
>Is there a way to avoid that the news server leafnode writes a file
>for EACH AND EVERY message (even for empty ones!) it gets on its local
>database?
>I find this very annoying and uneffective. Perhaps one could use a
>loopback file system with just one file containing all messages, or
>just keep the database compressed in some way?
It's your choice: you can mount the directory '/var/spool/news' either
on a harddisk partition or on a loopback filesystem.
>But again: where are the really good news clients for Linux?
As you already correctly stated, leafnode is a news server, not a news
client.
Dieter Rohlfing
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From: Anthony DeLuca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Shutting down as a normal user..
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 11:03:10 -0400
Well excuse me for being a beginner and not knowing all you know. I thought we
are here to help each other and not belittle someone. If this is the kind of
help you offer, then maybe you should refrain from helping. So, you are a
fortune teller that could tell someone had obvious haste and that they babbled.
Well maybe they had a question that they couldn't answer !!! That is why they
posted it here to get a civilized response and not to be put down for their lack
of knowledge. This is the way beginners learn, from the help of others. Were you
born with all of your knowledge? If we all had your knowledge and great
communication skills, the world would be a better place.
Tony
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In his obvious haste, Anthony DeLuca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled thusly:
> : How come I can't shutdown or reboot as a normal user. This is my home
> : machine....I am told that shutdown is not an available command... I even
> : tried su shutdown -h now.... and it still didn't work...Thanks in
> : advance..
>
> Why do you need to?
> <CTRL ALT DEL> does the same thing.
>
> You must remember that Linux is a multi user operating system, and many of
> the config files are written by the distributors to take this into account.
>
> (This stopping Joe Bloggs from issuing a shutdown command and trashing
> everyone elses work).
>
> Root is the only user that *SHOULD* have that power...
>
> But... The three fingered salute will reboot or halt (depending on the
> config options) the individual machine. Unless the sys-admin/owner has
> disablewd it because it's a multi-user machine).
>
> : Tony
>
> --
> ______________________________________________________________________________
> |[EMAIL PROTECTED]| |
> | Andrew Halliwell | "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't |
> | Finallist in:- | suck is probably the day they start making |
> | Computer science | vacuum cleaners" - Ernst Jan Plugge |
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> |GCv3.12 GCS>$ d-(dpu) s+/- a C++ US++ P L/L+ E-- W+ N++ o+ K PS+ w-- M+/++ |
> |PS+++ PE- Y t+ 5++ X+/X++ R+ tv+ b+ DI+ D+ G e>e++ h/h+ !r!| Space for hire |
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,linux.dev.scsi,linux.redhat.misc,linux.scsi,list.linux-activists.scsi
Subject: Re: SANE 1.0. start problems HELP needed
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 02:36:48 GMT
In article <7jun10$20k$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Dirk Demuynck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Can someone tell me what to do exactly when.SANE is reporting the error
>'SANE_START : invalid argument whentyping the command 'scanimage'
>
>Xscanimage gives the same error ==> failed to start scanner:invalid
>arguments
>
>thanks
>
>
>
Well, I have a umax scanner connected to device /dev/sgc, and I
invoke scanimage like this:
scanimage --device-name=umax:/dev/sgc --resolution 100 \
-l 0 -t 0 -x 50 -y 50 > test.ppm
in order to scan something 0 millimeters from the side (-l) 0 from the
top (-t) 50 mm wide (-x) and 50 mm long (-y) with a resolution of 100 dpi.
I could also create a symbolic link /dev/scanner to /dev/sgc and
dispense with the device name argument. I'd throw in a -mode Grey if
I wanted grayscale (and redirect it to test.pgm) or -mode Lineart for
pure black and white with no shades of gray (test.pbm). Did it come
with man pages? man scanimage, man sane-umax (or sane- whatever type of
scanner you have).
I don't know how you acquired sane but if you downloaded the source
tarball, did a configure, make, make install, under the build directory
tree's tools subdirectory is a useful little program called find-scanner
that you might want to try out.
--
Praeterea censeo Micromolle non esse utendum.
("Moreover, I maintain that Microsoft should not be used." A toned down
adaptation of a sig from Cato the Elder regarding the city of Carthage.
---- Remove "UhUh" and "Spam" to get my real email address -----
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From: "Nevyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: command not found
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 17:15:54 +0100
"make command not found" error if i try to use make...as in make kernel like
this install file is tellin me to do....im usin red hat 5.2..i
think...anyone know where it is?...or should be
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Cache tuning
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 16:24:12 GMT
On Fri, 11 Jun 1999 16:36:48 -0700, David Means wrote:
> I agree with the request to think a bit further, but it should be taken
>to heart. MP3 files are nearly *always* accessed from beginning to end
>exactly once,
Ahh.. That makes sense now. Under OS/2, I use a fairly simple (but good
nonetheless) console MP3 player. (Now that I've finally hooked up the LED's
<G> ) I see the LED pulsing every two seconds. Under Linux, it pulses once
when the MP3 is loaded and doesn't go on again (unless I perform other disk
IO).
Now, I've got 64 megs of RAM and a 64 meg swap partition, so I shouldn't
really be worried about a 5 meg file being cached - but what was the original
poster's concern? (Internet access was down for a couple of days, so I'm
coming in in the middle of this thread).
--
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4
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From: "T.E.Dickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /etc/termcap question
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.misc,redhat.general
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 16:41:25 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "T.E.Dickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> if it has more than 24 lines it is no longer emulating a vt100.
let's not be too pedantic. DEC's vt420 terminal can have page sizes
other than 24 lines even when emulating a vt100.
--
Thomas E. Dickey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.clark.net/pub/dickey
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From: "Gero H. Marten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Apache in SuSE 6.0
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 10:19:09 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I know I'm a newbie...
>
> Upon running httpd (trying to start up Apache for
> the first time), I get this:
>
> sqlinit: DBROOT must be set !!!
>
> For the life of me I can't find where to set
> DBROOT. Maybe I'm blind or something but it
> doesn't seem to be in any of the confs.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> PS This is SuSE 6.0 kernel 2.0.36
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
This variable should have been set by YAST automatically. If not, in
/etc/rc.config insert "DBROOT=/usr/lib/adabas" (without quotes and
of course with whichever directory your adabas is in). Then run
SuSEconfig.
Ah, this is all explained in the SDB of SuSE, and it's in the adabas
documentation to!
--
Gero H. Marten
<http://www.provi.de/gmarten/index.html>
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From: David Frye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat 5.2 (where to get apache 1.3.6 rpm?)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 16:51:04 GMT
Brad Ball wrote:
> Kenyon Ralph wrote:
>
> > Did you try http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM? By the way, compiling the
> > source tarball isn't very hard, and it gives you the chance to compile
> > Apache exactly how you want it.
> >
>
> Yep, been there, done that. Nothing there only apache 1.3.3 for RedHat 5.2.
> All of the apache 1.3.6 files are for RedHat 6.0 and they won't install.
> Thanks for the reply though. What a pain in ass Linux is!
>
> Why the hell should I have to upgrade my entire operating system just to get
> the latest version of apache! And people complain about Microsoft
> products!!!????
>
> Brad.
Sounds like you are better off with Micky Soft products. Better go back to them
and leave Linux for someone who can figure out computers. Micky Soft very good
for people who depend on having other people do things for them.
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From: Jim McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Java under Linux
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 22:50:39 -0300
Where do I get JDK and JRE for Linux ?
Sun's java site doesn't have anything for linux.
I'm very new to java, so for all I know, Everything is already included.
Any help is appreciated
Thanks in advance
Jim McIntyre
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From: Robert Farney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Installation Problem with "QT"
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 20:58:02 -0500
Hello Lew,
I am having a problem installing a program called "QT" www.troll.no on linux
6.0. If you have the time and the desire to assist please let me know and I will
tell you what I have done to this point. It has to be a small problem, but I
haven't been able to figure out what it is and I have spend hours. Thanks in
advance :-)
p.s. My name is Bob, I am sending this note from Alabama :-)
Lew Pitcher wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:09:06 +0200, "Erik Cuynen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >at our office, we recently have installed a linux PC, being part of a large
> >ethernet network.
> >The other 4 PCs are running win98 and are connected to the network as well.
> >what must be done in order to allow all 4 PCs to read and write files from a
> >ZIP
> >drive attached to the linux PC???
> >
> >Please provide sufficient information, I am a Linux newbie ; - )
>
> You are going to need 3 things...
> 1) software to make files on the Linux system available to the Win98 systems
> Look into - Samba for "Microsoft Networks" (SMB) support, or
> - Mars NWE for "Netware Bindary" support, or
> - NFS for Sun Network File System support.
> Win98 comes with the client for "Microsoft Networks" and Netware, so no
> additional software will be required, but if you choose to use NFS, you'll
> have to acquire and install a (likely commercial) NFS client on each Win98
> system.
>
> 2) TCP/IP enabled on each of the Win98 systems, and
>
> 3) A suitable file system driver installed on Linux (i.e. VFAT, DOS, etc.)
> Since you are using a ZIP drive, you'll probably be exchanging disks with
> other systems, and these disks are likely to be formatted for MSDOS/Windows,
> rather than Linux. If so, then your Linux system will need file-system support
> for MSDOS/Windows file systems enabled.
>
> Lew Pitcher
> System Consultant, Integration Solutions Architecture
> Toronto Dominion Bank
>
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
> (Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)
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From: pangloss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ? Linux community manage vs. chaos ?
Date: 11 Jun 1999 23:19:17 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi Linux community members,
> How is it possible that Linux has succesfully grown by contributions from
> so many different persons, without degenerating into chaos ?
> Where did the structures originate, and become disciplined/enforced to:
> collect bug reports and enhancements, to feed into next code update,
> ...............................................documentation update,
> enable contributions from dispersed outsiders, yet avoid chaos from
> undiscipled/incompetent 'members',
> allow division of labour, (specialisation) in co-operated efforts,
> etc .............etc ?
> Thanks, Chris Glur.
> Ps. I thought I posted this some time ago ? perhaps I missed the replies ?
> Please reply me a copy, direct email. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
There is an essay on how it works, by Eric Raymond. It is called
"The Cathedral and the Bazaar", and it is webbed (I don't have the
url at hand, just do a search.)
--
pangloss
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Subject: Re: Shutting down as a normal user..
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 17:52:14 GMT
On Sat, 12 Jun 1999 11:03:10 -0400, Anthony DeLuca wrote:
>So, you are a fortune teller that could tell someone had obvious haste and that
>they babbled.
It's a quote line. He wasn't insulting you, it's likely a generic line that
gets appended to all of his messages.
Grow a skin and come back when you have the maturity to read the group.
--
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4
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From: Latenar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Shutting down as a normal user..
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 17:53:55 GMT
Anthony DeLuca wrote:
>
> Well excuse me for being a beginner and not knowing all you know. I thought we
> are here to help each other and not belittle someone. If this is the kind of
> help you offer, then maybe you should refrain from helping. So, you are a
> fortune teller that could tell someone had obvious haste and that they babbled.
> Well maybe they had a question that they couldn't answer !!! That is why they
> posted it here to get a civilized response and not to be put down for their lack
> of knowledge. This is the way beginners learn, from the help of others. Were you
> born with all of your knowledge? If we all had your knowledge and great
> communication skills, the world would be a better place.
>
> Tony
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > In his obvious haste, Anthony DeLuca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled thusly:
> > : How come I can't shutdown or reboot as a normal user. This is my home
> > : machine....I am told that shutdown is not an available command... I even
> > : tried su shutdown -h now.... and it still didn't work...Thanks in
> > : advance..
> >
> > Why do you need to?
> > <CTRL ALT DEL> does the same thing.
> >
> > You must remember that Linux is a multi user operating system, and many of
> > the config files are written by the distributors to take this into account.
> >
> > (This stopping Joe Bloggs from issuing a shutdown command and trashing
> > everyone elses work).
> >
> > Root is the only user that *SHOULD* have that power...
> >
> > But... The three fingered salute will reboot or halt (depending on the
> > config options) the individual machine. Unless the sys-admin/owner has
> > disablewd it because it's a multi-user machine).
> >
> > : Tony
> >
> > --
> >
Maybe if you actually read the newsgroup instead of just complaining about the
help you get you would notice that that is his standard quoting string... Just
look at all the help he gave you and the people above you on the mailing list
and you would notice that he's actually quite a helpful person.
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From: hudini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Shutting down as a normal user..
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 11:31:48 -0500
Mr Andrew Halliwell gave you a very polite and complete answer to your
question. You are just being a bitch. Grow up.
Anthony DeLuca wrote:
>
> Well excuse me for being a beginner and not knowing all you know. I thought we
> are here to help each other and not belittle someone. If this is the kind of
> help you offer, then maybe you should refrain from helping. So, you are a
> fortune teller that could tell someone had obvious haste and that they babbled.
> Well maybe they had a question that they couldn't answer !!! That is why they
> posted it here to get a civilized response and not to be put down for their lack
> of knowledge. This is the way beginners learn, from the help of others. Were you
> born with all of your knowledge? If we all had your knowledge and great
> communication skills, the world would be a better place.
>
> Tony
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > In his obvious haste, Anthony DeLuca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled thusly:
> > : How come I can't shutdown or reboot as a normal user. This is my home
> > : machine....I am told that shutdown is not an available command... I even
> > : tried su shutdown -h now.... and it still didn't work...Thanks in
> > : advance..
> >
> > Why do you need to?
> > <CTRL ALT DEL> does the same thing.
> >
> > You must remember that Linux is a multi user operating system, and many of
> > the config files are written by the distributors to take this into account.
> >
> > (This stopping Joe Bloggs from issuing a shutdown command and trashing
> > everyone elses work).
> >
> > Root is the only user that *SHOULD* have that power...
> >
> > But... The three fingered salute will reboot or halt (depending on the
> > config options) the individual machine. Unless the sys-admin/owner has
> > disablewd it because it's a multi-user machine).
> >
> > : Tony
> >
> > --
> > ______________________________________________________________________________
> > |[EMAIL PROTECTED]| |
> > | Andrew Halliwell | "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't |
> > | Finallist in:- | suck is probably the day they start making |
> > | Computer science | vacuum cleaners" - Ernst Jan Plugge |
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > |GCv3.12 GCS>$ d-(dpu) s+/- a C++ US++ P L/L+ E-- W+ N++ o+ K PS+ w-- M+/++ |
> > |PS+++ PE- Y t+ 5++ X+/X++ R+ tv+ b+ DI+ D+ G e>e++ h/h+ !r!| Space for hire |
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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You know you shouldn't be looking in here...
So here is what you get:
You are not one of the 1 1 users allowed in this box....
So... GET THE FUCK AWAY FROM ME YOU MOTHER FUCKER PEEPING TOM (OR BITCH.
Whatever your foggot instincts are.)
Go use wincrap95... Because LINUX is for IQs GREATER than 95!!!
DONT even try to reboot me. Or I'll take a picture of you!
I log every single key stroke!
Beavis & ButtHead Jan '94
MTV (tm) 1980
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Wueppelmann)
Subject: Re: Question for vi expert
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 15:07:52 GMT
In our last episode (Fri, 11 Jun 1999 07:55:58 GMT),
the artist formerly known as [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>Hi all
>In vi I'd like to delete column 1-10 or 5-30 orso. I know this is
>possible in vi but I don't know how to do this.
To delete column n - m:
# = m - n
n|#x
>furthermore is it also possible to delete column 1-10 on lines 5-7?
5G
:,+2s/^..........//
As always, there are many ways to accomplish the same thing. The best
solution will vary depending on the actual structure of the text to be
edited.
--
It is pitch black.
You are likely to be spammed by a grue.
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From: Latenar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2 newbie questions!
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 05:07:20 GMT
duy wrote:
>
> Every time I connect to my ISP, none of the apps works. If I try to
> start an application by command line, I'll get "connection to ":0.0"
> refused by server." What's going on?
>
> How do I setpath in slackware4.0? I use bash and tcsh, but I couldn't
> find .bash_profile, .bashrc, or .tcshrc any where.
> Thanks for any help.
For the first question, I can't help. For the second one, I'm guessing you
mean, by setpath, how to set the PATH variable, and if not i'll feel like an
ass. To do this, you go to the script that runs when you login (probably
.bash_profile). You should see variables being set such as the LINES, EDITOR,
etc. add a line thusly:
PATH="/bin:/usr:/usr/local:/sbin"
replacing those directories with the ones you want, and separating with :'s.
then, somewhere after that (either directly or at the end) make a line
resembling this:
export PATH
Of course, if that's not what you meant, never mind:-p
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From: John Girash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.help,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Cd-rom Install Problem
Date: 12 Jun 1999 20:50:18 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The installation keeps asking what type of CD-ROM I have; SCSI or Other.
> I respond with 'Other', and then go on to select the Mitsumi Device Driver.
> Unfortunately, I am then asked to provide I/O Base Address information, in
> the form.... mcd=<something>
> I do currently have Windows95 on this particular system, which I am going to
> complete over-write with Linux. My Win95 system tells me that the Base I/O
> address of the CD-ROM is 0320-0323.
> From the documentation I read on the Redhat site, it looks like I am supposed
> to respond mcd=io_port,IRQ during the Redhat installation.
> I tried various combinations of mcd=0320,15 .... mcd=320,12 .... but nothing
> seems to work.
> Can anyone provide me with some suggestions ?
The old Mitsumis often used IRQ 5 or 9 or 10; have you tried those?
(You could always open the case and look at the interface's jumper settings).
jg
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